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MPAA Names Dan Glickman To Replace Jack Valenti

Zordak writes "Fox News is reporting that the MPAA has chosen a new chief to replace Jack Valenti. Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style. Dan Glickman is actually a seasoned Washington politician, having served as a Kansas representative and agriculture secretary under President Clinton. He has previously been a lobbyist for the Walt Disney Corporation, and his son is the producer of such quality fare as 'Shanghai Knights' and 'Rush Hour.' Don't be looking for that 'approved' Linux DVD player soon."

307 comments

  1. Meet the new boss... by Wizzy+Wig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    same as the old boss.

    1. Re:Meet the new boss... by plj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I'm not an U.S. citizen so I do not vote there, have never even visited there, know that DMCA is not really a democrat v. republican issue (and that Clinton signed it into law), and that this guy is from copyright/DRM enforcement point of view probably as bad kind of asshole as Valenti ever was.

      But that said, I'm still always kind a way happy when I'll hear, that some elected/chosen person somewhere in the States was a democrat instead of a republican; every republican happens to get connected into Reagan/Bush -style administrations in my mind, and I think every rep. president of the U.S. at least after T.R. has somehow sucked - save perhaps Eisenhower, who wasn't even a politican in the first place - comparing to democrat ones.

      Perhaps it is just, because I'm a foreigner; for me, the republicans always seem to have been those, who seem to have forgotten that U.S. != World. Lately (during Bush admin at least) they also seem to have been those, who do not care anything about the greed of megacorps (or who even run them by themselves).

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    2. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Mind explaining exactly what your anti-republican rant has to do with anything?

    3. Re:Meet the new boss... by operagost · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Your perception is mostly incorrect, being colored by the media. Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower benefit from the haze of history- and left-wingers are still very angry that Reagan's policies ended the cold war and saved the U.S. economy.

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    4. Re:Meet the new boss... by Einer2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's brilliant. "I know virtually nothing, but at least he's not a Republican, so yay!"

      For what it's worth, he's a Kansas Democrat. Most of them are probably more conservative than the Republicans of California and New England, especially given the district he represented. He was elected in the 4th Congressional District, which contains Wichita (a conservative industrial town) and lots of rural farmland, and very few liberal bastions like college towns.

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    5. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, left-wingers are still angry at Reagan for gassing hippies, kicking mentally ill people onto the streets, and sending death squads to central america. There never was a serious partisan difference in economic policy (which actually started under Carter), and Cold War policy (invented by Democrats).

    6. Re:Meet the new boss... by plj · · Score: 1

      That's brilliant. "I know virtually nothing, but at least he's not a Republican, so yay!"

      First: I told that I'm a foreigner. It'd be rather hard to follow internal politics of every 51 states. But I think I still know things rather well as a foreigner.

      Second: I didn't say "yay!" I just said that I think a known-to-be asshole D. is probably better than a known-to-be asshole R.

      For what it's worth, he's a Kansas Democrat. Most of them are probably more conservative than the Republicans of California and New England, especially given the district he represented.

      This was interesting, because I think that member of both parties still vote mostly along party lines on federal level, no? Your statement would make me one wonder, why the most conservative Ds wouldn't just jump to Republicans and most liberal Rs to Democrats.

      But anyway, my post was just an opinion. Nothing more - and I didn't claim myself to be an expert in U.S. politics by any means. Occasionally, superpower's internal affairs just happen to wake up certain interest abroad, too.

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    7. Re:Meet the new boss... by Luigi30 · · Score: 1

      Take a bow for the new revolution?

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    8. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "every 51 states"

      You may not know as much as you think.

    9. Re:Meet the new boss... by devnul73 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I think a known-to-be asshole D. is probably better than a known-to-be asshole R.

      An asshole by any name still spews shit.

    10. Re:Meet the new boss... by Einer2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually, that's a problem both parties have suffered, particularly in the Senate. Zell Miller, a conservative Democrat from Georgia, often sides with the Republicans on issues. I believe he's even scheduled to speak at the Republican Presidential Convention this fall. Likewise, Jim Jeffords used to be a liberal Republican from (I believe) Connecticut, but he redeclared as an independent and allied with the Democrats in 2001 in order to give them control of the Senate.

      This issue can also be seen in abortion debates. A lot of moderate and liberal Republicans are pro-choice, and more than a few conservative Democrats are pro-life. The Kansas Republican party has split into two wings (moderate and conservative) that have all but declared war on each other over this and a few other issues.

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    11. Re:Meet the new boss... by plj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Colored by media my ass. You're probably somewhat right about Teddy and Dwight D, but there are many of Reagan's policies I still cannot agree with. Some of them were good, though, but most of them not. Still, nobody's perfect, either.

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    12. Re:Meet the new boss... by plj · · Score: 1

      Well, thank you. Maybe I'll now understand your politics little better, too.

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    13. Re:Meet the new boss... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Same as the old boss? You mean that he's an undead vampire too? I knew it!

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    14. Re:Meet the new boss... by Jonathan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your perception is mostly incorrect, being colored by the media. Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower benefit from the haze of history

      Let's see -- TR started the Forest Service and many national parks -- no Republican since has ever been so environmentally conscious. Your beloved Reagan said "If you've seen one Redwood, you've seen them all.".

      Eisenhower, despite being a career soldier, was intelligent enough to realize the danger of the military industrial complex. Reagan just gave bottom-feeding scum corps like Lockheed and Northrop everything they asked for.

      and left-wingers are still very angry that Reagan's policies ended the cold war and saved the U.S. economy.

      Communism collapsed of its own accord, helped by the struggles of people behind the iron curtain, which the US never helped despite their desperate pleads (We also screwed over the Czechs and Hungarians by not lifting a finger when they rebelled in the 50's and '60s) Read up on East Germany's "Swords to Ploughshares" movement, for example. Without those protests, the Berlin Wall wouldn't have fell.

    15. Re:Meet the new boss... by value_added · · Score: 1

      And the critical faculties of someone who posts a comment consisting mostly of inflamatory rhetoric fashioned from the buzzwords, clicheed slogans, and truisms masked as facts repeated ad nauseum on talk show airwaves across the country are not in any way impaired?

    16. Re:Meet the new boss... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      Those "bottom-feeding scum corps" produced the aircraft that helped our military be the best in the world, and win conflicts from WWII to the Gulf War. There is no one else in the world as qualified or capable of producing as advanced aircraft. So don't dismiss them as shit just because the government pays them to produce the best fighting craft in the world. Because they do. And without them, and others like them, we quite possibly might not be here today.

    17. Re:Meet the new boss... by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid asking for the American public to not get fooled again is a bit much.

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    18. Re:Meet the new boss... by M.+Silver · · Score: 1

      Wichita (a conservative industrial town) and lots of rural farmland,

      And before anybody starts thinking "rural farmland" is redundant, let me say it's not. I thought it was until I moved to Wichita. The city's sitting in an incredibly fertile river valley, and has grown to encompass pretty much the whole valley (and thus all the best farmland) so if you've got an undeveloped bit of land, while you're waiting for the right buyer to come along and put a mall on it you lease it out to a farmer as a little bitty wheat field. There's a stretch (future parking, I guess) along the backside of a Best Buy, Sam's Club, WalMart, etc. that's all wheat, less than 100 feet wide but a quarter mile or so long. Gives a whole new meaning to "back 40." Well, okay, "back 4 or so."

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    19. Re:Meet the new boss... by Scaba · · Score: 1

      And many will argue that a good number of those wars after WWII were started, in part, so corps like Lockheed could sell more planes to the gov't. Never underestimate a bottom-feeding scum.

    20. Re:Meet the new boss... by Scaba · · Score: 1

      I think you misspelled "Clinton" as "Reagan".

    21. Re:Meet the new boss... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lockheed produced the SR-71 and U-2. Without those two aircraft, the odds that we might have launched our nuclear weapons during the Cold War would have been astronomically greater. Halliburton =! military aircraft industry.

    22. Re:Meet the new boss... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm... Sounds to me not like so much of an anti-republican rant, but a view of how the rest of the world views the current state of politics in America...

      N.

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    23. Re:Meet the new boss... by guiscard · · Score: 2, Informative


      uh, Gorbachev's policies are seen by most of the world as having ended the cold war. the idea that it was all thanks to Reagan and star wars is something the Republicans came up with and only an American would believe.

    24. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      those americans sure are stupid. kekekeke.

    25. Re:Meet the new boss... by hdparm · · Score: 1

      If there ever was a President who forgot that USA=!world, that was Clinton.

    26. Re:Meet the new boss... by MeanSolutions · · Score: 1

      > There is no one else in the world as qualified or capable of producing as advanced aircraft.

      Three examples that makes your theory utterly useless.

      Mig-29
      Eurofighter
      JAS 39 Gripen

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    27. Re:Meet the new boss... by fenix+down · · Score: 2, Informative

      What part of "military-industrial complex" did you miss, there? Of course Lockheed has good engineers working for them, but the existence of Lockheed comprimises military decisions. Like the Joint Strike Fighter. The US Army has no use for that shit, we're paying for the design so Lockheed can sell it to Israel and everything, because the Eurofighter and that French one are making the F-14 and everything obsolete, and we won't let them sell the F-22 to anybody else for another 20 years or so.

      We're blowing billions of federal dollars that could be used for body armor or whatever solely to make money for Lockeed, because they make the best fighting craft in the world, and as such the military feels it owes them loyalty. That's what we call the military-industrial complex.

    28. Re:Meet the new boss... by eyeye · · Score: 1

      WWII was fought by a lot of people who gave more than the US.

      The US didnt win the gulf war.. I dont know where you get that idea from - US asses are being kicked in iraq as we speak.

      You probably count vietnam as a "win" too.

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    29. Re:Meet the new boss... by KUHurdler · · Score: 1

      I can testify to that. I live in Kansas. Its very hard to make it past the primaries if you are a Republican Pro-death, I mean pro-choice.

      If any of them ever do, they will never get elected because Pro-Life republicans will vote for the independent candidate that is Pro-Life, even though they know it means a pro-choice Dem will get elected.

      Abortion is a serious topic around here. Its more important that taxes to alot of people.

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    30. Re:Meet the new boss... by cicho · · Score: 1

      Oh boy, that's as good as "they hate us because we're free". I was born on the other side of the cold war, so to speak, and I remember those times well. Reagan helped. But let me tell you, if the US "won" the cold war, it did so by default. What happened was the Soviet Union stopped fighting the war and just collapsed under its own inefficient weight. Oh, and there were lots of brave people on this side who put up a good fight themselves.

      Did it show the capitalist system works, and the communist system does not? It sure did. Did Reagan's policies help the US economy? Check your recession and unemployment history.

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    31. Re:Meet the new boss... by D-Cypell · · Score: 1

      Wow! Im America politics are complicated!! Here in the UK they just promise to lower taxes and then raise them, promise to improve the NHS and then make it worse etc...

      Also, during the realitvely long time our parliment has existed we have been working on the very advanced political tactic of shouting and a group of guys facing you hoping to make your guys laugh of shout "HEAR! HEAR!"...

    32. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I voted for the man 7 times. In his own words: "I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal." More amazingly, he was telling the truth!

      Dan is actually is pretty thoughtful, level-headed guy (yes, such people exist in Kansas), but he will need both education and consistent persuasion before he understands fully what's at stake. And even then, he is a policitian. . .

    33. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, on what grounds was this modded up to +5 insightful? THERE IS NO INSIGHT IN WHAT WAS POSTED HERE! It's just a line from a Who song!

      C'mon, folks with mod points, THINK before using them. There are a dozen posts lower down in the thread that actually to have a modicum of insight but don't get modded up because people blow all their points on this tripe.

    34. Re:Meet the new boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your perception is mostly incorrect, being colored by the media. Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower benefit from the haze of history- and left-wingers are still very angry that Reagan's policies ended the cold war and saved the U.S. economy.

      It would seem that Reagan also benefits from this "haze of history" recently. All I seem to hear anymore is "he killed communism, he saved our economy." I'm not entirely certain what you mean by his policies ending the cold war, but if by that you mean he burned our money on useless weaponry and Russia ended up being stupid enough to do the same in a ridiculous bid to one-up America until they realized they'd wasted all their cash on weapons, then yes, yes he did stop the cold war.

      I suppose you could also say during his presidency he managed to free the hostages in Iran, too, if you ignore the fact that he only got those hostages because Iran wanted to stick it to the last president.

      As for "saved the US economy," I don't even know where to begin pointing out what's wrong with that. Maybe it's a typo, and you meant to write "..., caused our debt to spike to horrendous heights, wasted our money on making toys to threaten Russia with, and nearly plunged us into depression."

    35. Re:Meet the new boss... by sabernet · · Score: 1

      We Canadians did far more and lost more men in WWII then the states. So did the brits and just about everyone else.

      We spearheaded the campaign on D-Day.

      Get your head out of your USAss for a moment and pick up a valid history book.

    36. Re:Meet the new boss... by fuzznutz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Let's see -- TR started the Forest Service and many national parks -- no Republican since has ever been so environmentally conscious.

      Hello? Nixon? Clean Air Act... Clean Water Act...

    37. Re:Meet the new boss... by operagost · · Score: 1
      The US didnt win the gulf war.. I dont know where you get that idea from - US asses are being kicked in iraq as we speak.
      Wow, the historic revisionism has already begun! We're in Iraq, we aren't pulling out until their police, military, and elected government are ready. We have lost far fewer soldiers than in Vietnam's first years under DEMOCRAT JOHNSON. The rape rooms and torture chambers are closed, despite Ted Kennedy's belligerent droolings. There are more and better schools. Roads and communications are improved.

      Explain how our asses are getting kicked.

      You wish so hard that we will fail - just like the terrorists.

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    38. Re:Meet the new boss... by operagost · · Score: 1

      People like John Kerry didn't even believe we could win the cold war. He and his capitulating members of the "Chamberlain fan Club" were calling for a nuclear freeze. Even if Reagan didn't "do" anything, at least he believed it would happen and instilled the US with resolve.

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    39. Re:Meet the new boss... by Einer2 · · Score: 1
      Heh. That's one of the reasons I just left Kansas. I like living in a Republican state and all, but I'd rather live someplace where the moderates run things instead of the reactionaries.

      Of course, what'd I do? I moved to California...

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    40. Re:Meet the new boss... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Your chart is ridiculous. Nowhere in there are the amounts adjusted for inflation!

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    41. Re:Meet the new boss... by Scaba · · Score: 1

      Then you didn't read far enough before you responded. For a good number of the charts that show dollar amounts (many show percentages of GDP, unemployment, etc.), some are in non-adjusted dollars, but many are in adjusted dollars.

    42. Re:Meet the new boss... by Phragmen-Lindelof · · Score: 1

      "Reagan's policies ended the cold war and saved the U.S. economy"
      These are phrases the right-wingers use. They are simplistic and generally incorrect.
      Economies are complex beasts which react to many things (trade balance, exchange rates, interest rates, government spending, foreign affairs, advances in technology, government debt, "butterflies", etc.); Carter did not cause the oil embargo or the inflation of the late 1970's and early 1980's and Reagan did not save the U.S. economy.
      The cold war is interesting. Stalan wanted to cause trouble (e.g. Berlin airlift, Korea) but after his death, the Soviet Union was ruled by a bunch of bureaucrats (e.g. Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev) whose primary goal was to protect their privileges. Decades of effort by members of both U.S. political parties went into containing the Soviet Union. Economically the Soviet Union was dying. To give Reagan a great deal of credit for the end of the cold war is a joke. If you want to give credit, give it to the citizens of the world (U.S., USSR, etc) who survived this period in history.

    43. Re:Meet the new boss... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      The US didnt win the gulf war.. I dont know where you get that idea from

      If you knew ANYTHING of recent history, of the Gulf War, you would know how incredibly idiotic your statement is. We utterly decimated Saddam's armies with minimal losses. Most of the friendly soldiers lost were killed in friendly-fire accidents. Saddam's communications, power, and transportation infrastructures were all wiped out within a matter of hours by F-117 bombers. His air force never even existed as a threat because of the utter destruction our Air Force wrought on his hangers, runways, and aircraft. We slaughtered the Iraqi army and let the survivors run home. Then we left, our mission accomplished: driving Saddam out of Kuwait, severely damaging the ability of Iraq to wage war, and showing that we were willing to intercede in the Middle East. All goals were accomplished, and we DEFINITELY left victorious.

    44. Re:Meet the new boss... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      Those are all 3rd or 4th generation aircraft. Considering that the SR-71 was classified for decades before its existence was admitted to, it's nearly certain we have something even more impressive. How many other countries have developed stealth technology? None. How many other countries have achieved Mach 3+ flight in combat aircraft? None. How many other countries have developed drone stealth aircraft? None. I could go on and on. There exists at the present time no one in the world who can match our aircraft industry. The Europeans are a joke, China is playing catch-up, and Russia got out of the arms race a decade ago.

    45. Re:Meet the new boss... by eyeye · · Score: 1

      Slaughtering lots of people != win.

      The US will eventually run from iraq with its tail between its legs. Perhaps they will manage to kill millions first but they can never win.

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    46. Re:Meet the new boss... by eyeye · · Score: 1

      I never said they were pulling out. I said they are getting there asses kicked. They want to dominate the country for strategic and economic reasons but can never win because they will always be fought by the resistance.
      Yes saddam is no longer doing the killing and torturing - undereducated redneck americans are doing that now. hurrah for the US.

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    47. Re:Meet the new boss... by MeanSolutions · · Score: 1

      SR-71 might have been classified, but using it to violate sovereign nations air-space and then getting pissed off when said nations took photos of the SR-71 when it was in process of violating said air-space is just what we have grown to expect from the USA.

      Now, talking about stealth technology, you are aware that the 'stealth' airplanes are not invisible to radar yes? So why mess about wasting millions of dollars on something that doesn't really work? Pointless, but the USA has money to burn apparently. Hint, linking radar stations means you can see 'stealth' planes in a trivial manner.

      As for Mach3+ flight, how often do you need that? Oh yes, only when you are the aggressor nation. Surprise surprise, most other nations in the world do not enjoy going around picking fights with anyone and everyone all the time.

      As for matching the USA aircraft industry, it is interesting to see that the only reason you compete in the private sector is because USA is using blackmail to help companies located in the USA, when non-USA aircrafts are superior. Regarding the military side, JAS 39 Gripen was developed in a nation consisting of 9 million people, for a minute cost compared to what the USA blows on a similar project, and Gripen will be more than a match for the USA developed planes.

      So, your point again was?

      Once the USA realises that they are not alone in the world, they actually NEED the world (fine, isolate yourselves, see if we care, when you need oil after wasting your own resources don't come crawling back to the rest of the world for some) or you'd go bust. Even implementing totally fair trade across the world (no penalty toll fares to protect internal business) would seriously hurt the USA (and to be fair, most western nations).

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    48. Re:Meet the new boss... by Zardus · · Score: 1

      Communism collapsed of its own accord, helped by the struggles of people behind the iron curtain, which the US never helped despite their desperate pleads (We also screwed over the Czechs and Hungarians by not lifting a finger when they rebelled in the 50's and '60s) Read up on East Germany's "Swords to Ploughshares" movement, for example. Without those protests, the Berlin Wall wouldn't have fell.

      Uh, no. The struggles of the starving, unarmed, mostly apathetic people behind the iron curtain wasn't what brought around the end of Communism. Unarmed, starving people can't really do much in the face of a government that has money.

      If it wasn't for Reagan's oil policies that completely collapsed the Russian economy, the Soviet government would have easily survived whatever local insurrections people might have started, just like they did in the 50's and 60's. The only difference between the 50's and the late 80s/early 90s was that due to national profits on oil hitting rock bottom (which was thanks to Raegan), Russia could no longer finance an effective army or police force, and the peoples' (or rather, the small portion of the Russian population that even cared) efforts finally had some hope.

      Yes, I don't think too much of Russia's general population, but that's ok cause I'm from there.

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  2. DVD Player by margal · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought there was already one...

    1. Re:DVD Player by irokitt · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's called MPlayer. /rimshot

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    2. Re:DVD Player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      There is already an "approved" Linux DVD player, but it is not available for purchase. In other words, it's vaporware. The name of the software in LinDVD.

      There are several "unapproved" Linux DVD players, and it's unclear if approval is needed due to CSS losing its trade secret status and the key-guessing methods in libdvdcss (that is, outside the US--inside the US, you're screwed).

      The REAL reason there will never be an "approved" Linux DVD player is market reality. In order to get approved, you need to cripple your player so that it observes regions (either that or jack the price) and allows unskippable commercials. Thus, to get approved, you need to make a worse product than what's already out there for Linux. Why would anyone buy crippleware if "approval" isn't really needed (legally needed in non-US, technically needed in US) in the first place?

    3. Re:DVD Player by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      There is. PowerDVD now makes a standalone player meant for the consumer. Note to other readers, this is not the same as the PowerdVD software for embedded systems. Turbolinux comes w/ it

    4. Re:DVD Player by confused+one · · Score: 1

      doesn't Mplayer use decss? If so, it's decidedly not "approved"

  3. Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The MPAA and RIAA need to realize that they make many billions of dollars each year, even though they charge non-optimal prices for their content. If they charged less, I think they'd actually make more money. I hope this new guy realizes that the cost of the litigation against your average file-sharer is likely more than the gains against piracy. The key here is simple economics: more people would be able and willing to pay if music and movies cost less.

    1. Re:Anti-piracy by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Actually, the MPAA seems to be doing quite fine with charging people exhorbant fees for DVDs. Amazingly enough, people keep paying them. Overall, I'd say the MPAA hasn't been doing *too* bad up until now. The biggest thing they've done to piss everyone off was the DeCSS fiasco.

    2. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As a simple economic matter of optimization, while they would make less per DVD, say, they would sell more DVDs overall, and make a greater profit. If the movie companies were to do so, not only would their customers be happier, but so would their shareholders. I suppose they're going for the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" way of doing business.

    3. Re:Anti-piracy by KevinKnSC · · Score: 1

      It's not necessarily true that lowering the prices would result in sufficiently increased sales to offset the losses from the price reduction. Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, they've considered this, and they don't think they'd get enough increased sales to make it worthwhile?

    4. Re:Anti-piracy by stuktongue · · Score: 1

      May I ask what your source of insight into this is? I'm not criticizing your reasoning per se, I'm just curious as to whether there exists some study that would indicate that they're on a sub-optimal part of the supply-demand/price-profit curve.

    5. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand all that mumbo jumbo, alright. All I know is that I payed way too much for the last 20 cd's that I bought!

    6. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As a simple economic matter of optimization, while they would make less per DVD, say, they would sell more DVDs overall, and make a greater profit.
      To make this calculation, you would first have to know the price elasticity of demand of DVDs.
    7. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I can't say I really have any economic data to back this up, but there's much empirical data to be had. Ask your friends. Do they think music CDs are too expensive? Most of mine do. Personally, I think $20 is too much to pay for a DVD. If it were $15 or $10 I'd be a lot more likely to buy the DVD. And so it is with a lot of people. True, many just tolerate the prices, but even more don't, in my experience.

    8. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      Or you could have common sense. Economics is great, but in the real world you don't always have such nice data available.

    9. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The plural of anecdote is not data.

    10. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, note to self -- never ever under any circumstances hire the parent for a management position. ;-)

    11. Re:Anti-piracy by eliza_effect · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I think part of the issue is where you buy the DVDs. I've become spoiled, I think, from buying DVDs at Fry's Electronics. You can get DVDs the are less than two months old for $15. They have "classics" for less than $10, regularly. Fry's has single-handedly increased my DVD collection by 50%. But I've seen this same pricing model at Target, and I'm willing to bet that places like Costco follow it as well.

    12. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Or you could have common sense. Economics is great, but in the real world you don't always have such nice data available.

      If prices were cut in half, would the total market demand double? Maybe you would buy more than twice what you buy now, but I wouldn't. How can you draw conclusions about total market demand with "common sense"?

    13. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      If I actually ran a movie company, of course I'd have the studies done to see what the elasticity of demand is. More directly, you can do studies to determine demand itself. My comments consist of an educated guess on my part. The hostility towards the MPAA and RIAA should tell them that their litigation is likely losing them business, in any case.

    14. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If I actually ran a movie company, of course I'd have the studies done to see what the elasticity of demand is. More directly, you can do studies to determine demand itself. My comments consist of an educated guess on my part.
      Have you considered the possibility that they already have? And that the results may not coincide with your guesses?
    15. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      No, I didn't say half the price would double the demand. Nice straw man argument.

    16. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      Unless you like sampling every single population you would like to comment about, your comment is meaningless.

    17. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      I'm merely making a comment. I suppose that to say anything I need to conduct a broad-based study of economic data to make SURE that I'm right? Absurd.

    18. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You were making an assertive claim. Read your own post again:
      As a simple economic matter of optimization, while they would make less per DVD, say, they would sell more DVDs overall, and make a greater profit.
      Can you back this up with anything besides a wild guess?
    19. Re:Anti-piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > No, I didn't say half the price would double the demand. Nice straw man argument.

      Ok then, if you cut it, say 10%, would demand rise by more or less than 10%? I have no idea? Do you?

    20. Re:Anti-piracy by zogger · · Score: 1

      No one in the upper echelons of DVD entertainment pricing has clue one what it means to be an average paid middle economic strata american. They have a vague, theoretical understanding based on marketing reports and surveys, but they actually do not know what stuff costs to joe average. To them, 15-20$ a disk is an incredibly cheap price. That is like the tip they leave at lunch at a cheap place. These are people who drive the best cars, live in homes all over 7 figures in cost, etc. They have no true understanding of pricing, or what cost of living and wages are outside their own frame of existence, which mostly revolves around cost of living and wages in NYC and LA, which are skewed very high-end for the nation as a whole. So, they truly think that is "cheap enough" and they still manage to get a lot of sales, but that is maximum they can charge, too. And yes, I agree, they could have long ago dropped prices drastically, and sold orders of magnitudes more, and completely blocked most interest in downloading. I honestly think they just won't ever understand that. And anyone living in DC? Same deal, skewed upwards cost of everything and correspondigly higher wages. It's artifically "rich" there, being a freebie tax money supported town, it doesn't have to actually produce and beprofitable to get paid there (generally speaking about government in general there, the biggest "employer"), just go through the motions. guaranteed income, always get a raise, always be able to "consult" when you get out of any high office, or medium for that matter. Fat city, so that's the mindset they get, and who they support, other fat city-ers. So this new guy won't have a frame of reference either, nor any incentive to change much of anything. I'll be surpirsed if he does..

      I think so anyway.

    21. Re:Anti-piracy by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think the industry does conduct lots of detailed economic analysis to pick what they percieve as an optimum price point to maximize their total profits, and I'd even agree they update their models more frequently than most industries.
      Stock prospecti and other such documents reveal many cases where the various RIAA members have often tried to include some sort of quantifiable and standardizeable assumptions that many other industries simply ignore, because those industries assume their impacts will be trivial. In a fast changing market such as music, this is very sensible.
      However, I think the RIAA has also assumed some factors are trivial and not worth including in their price point calculations, and this is a largish to huge mistake. I think this mistake hurts their bottom line, and drives some of the social friction that inspires rabidity in a share of slashdotticus neophilus as well.
      Here's why I think that. Several RIAA members around 1998 to 2000 wanted to expand their involvement in the rap market. Most of them put a heavy emphasis on signing some hip-hop or rap (or perhaps more accurately 'gangsta') artists who had a strong antiestablishment message, and urged their listeners to physically steal the music, not as in copying, but as in shoplifting. Frequently, they also signed other artists who got heavily involved in violent crimes and are not making more records until they get out of their respective medium security facilities.
      Profits from these particular artists were frequently low to non-existant, and I'd argue it's largely because of the promoters not expecting trouble that I think should have been obvious, rather than these acts being particularly lacking in talent. (Of course, I have the advantage of 20-20 hindsight).
      More recently, one RIAA member expected Michael Jackson's new album to have sales well above his last album, and basically committed all their descressionary resources and marketing for the whole year to support it, although there had been a very large time since the last album and M J was already under a cloud of highly negative publicity.
      Given such examples, I think it is at least very probable that there are similar blind spots in the way various RIAA members have calculated price points. One of them may be that they work from the assumption that the current price is the optimum price point, because there is a cheap, effective way to stop bulk duplication and counterfitting without them having to keep pumping money into new DRM schemes to sustain it, and they just have to find it. In other words, they may be caught in a previous investment trap, where they keep trying something that is a holding action, because they are convinced there is a new solution comeing along that will make the holding action worthwhile, but if they quit now, that money already spent will have been wasted.

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    22. Re:Anti-piracy by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Just to play devil's advocate:
      Let us assume for a moment that the movie studios' main intrest is making money. I don't think that this is that far of a strech.
      Second, let us also assume that the movie exec's are not dumb. While this runs contrary to what most /.'ers feel, I have to believe that it takes a bit of intellgence to get put in charge of a movie studio.
      Along with this, I think its pretty safe to assume that most of the exec's have an MBA, or at least a degree in business, of some sort.
      Now, don't you think, with all of the above, that a few of them have thought to run a few studies on the price? Might it just be that, when they ran the numbers, the price they are currently charging was at, or very near, the top of the curve? Min/Max-ing this sort of thing is not rocket science, I'm sure they do this regularly. Granted, with all such price calculations, there are going to be some assumptions made, but usually they are based on some information from reality.
      You are simply one of the early blips in the Law of Diminishing Returns. Your price point is well below what the average person will pay. In the end though, the current price is probably been examined and re-examined to death, and is the best price for the market.

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    23. Re:Anti-piracy by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      Second, let us also assume that the movie exec's are not dumb. While this runs contrary to what most /.'ers feel, I have to believe that it takes a bit of intellgence to get put in charge of a movie studio. Actually, it takes some friends in the right places. Along with this, I think its pretty safe to assume that most of the exec's have an MBA, or at least a degree in business, of some sort. Ask the economists. They'll tell you that the MBAs sucks at economics. Now, don't you think, with all of the above, that a few of them have thought to run a few studies on the price? Well, these are the same people who think that it's somehow profitable to sue their customers. From what I've seen, piracy has changed little because of litigation of this type. It's actually not so easy to run price studies, since they must happen over at least a month or so, after the price changes trickle down the distribution chain. Your price point is well below what the average person will pay. In the end though, the current price is probably been examined and re-examined to death, and is the best price for the market. What price point was that, exactly? So your arguments are less gratuitous . . . how?

  4. Replace? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This new guy might be taking the job of Jack Valenti but I ask you who could possibly ever hope to "take the place" of good ol' Jack?

    "What is fair use? Fair use is not a law. There's nothing in law."

    GMD

    1. Re:Replace? by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 1


      His wiki entry has a few more choice quotes:

      Wikipedia

      I actually read the EW article (waiting to get haircut or something) where he made the quote about $75,000-$100,000 being "not much to live on." Talk about being out of touch with reality!

    2. Re:Replace? by Snarph · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Are you being sarcastic?

      I hate to defend Jack "the Ripper" Valenti, but he's right. For anyone living in an urban area of California, that isn't much to live on. If that was your sole income you could forget about buying a house in my town (Walnut Creek). I'm sure quite a few towns in Southern California are pretty much the same.

      Pick a different quote to make fun of -- he's got plenty.

    3. Re:Replace? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia can be changed by anyone! Go back to the article, click the "edit this page" link and remove the quote yourself, justifying your reasons.

    4. Re:Replace? by eliza_effect · · Score: 1

      I live in San Francisco, and it's very possible (MOST people do it!) to live on less than $75,000.

    5. Re:Replace? by operagost · · Score: 1

      Well, I can't buy a Bentley with my $45,000 a year salary, but that doesn't mean it's not much money to pay for transportation. I can take a train or bus, keep the old ratty car I have or buy an inexpensive one. Really - I don't complain that I can't live in Beverly Hills. I can live in about 95% of the rest of the U.S. That quote shows perfectly how out of touch he is, because he hasn't lived in a middle-class neighborhood in forever.

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    6. Re:Replace? by Artifakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Plus, it may accurately describe the situation for industry employees, i.e. the average Gaffer or Best Boy may get a credit and a base income that works out to about 75,000 $ a year, and that may not look like much from Jack's point of view, but he's asking a customer base that has an average income of about 31,000 $ a year to think of these employees as little guys, and that implies the customers themselves are sub-little. Doesn't sound very complementary does it? "Hey, you guys are making a third or so of what I consider a little guy's salary. Instead of me lobbying to get you all 75,000 $ a year, I want you to do the right thing no matter how much it hurts, and help these guys who are already making 2 1/2 times what you do. It's important that THEY don't get screwed." It sounds kind of like "Clean your plate, bankers in Switzerland are starving tonight".

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    7. Re:Replace? by TheGavster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The thing that gets me is they *are* salaried. Yet the MPAA propoganda-mercials make it sound like pirating the movie takes away from them. The basic labor gets a salary, the star has a contract. No matter what the take of of the movie is, they get paid the same. The only people who lose when a movie sucks are those responsible, the people in charge. Seems a fair enough system to me.

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  5. Respect to MPAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am going to respect change in the MPAA by changing my downloaded bittorrent movies from...

    Movies Downloaded
    to
    Downloaded Movies

  6. Oh, crap... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought he's really an avid Linux user, and I almost believed it, before I realized that it was a joke.

  7. /.'ed already? by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1

    I mean, come on, this is FOX. They should have some power back there, right? Geez.

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  8. Re:Lobbiest by kensai · · Score: 1

    No no no.

    First we hang'em, then we burn'em, then we shoot'em, then we kill'em.

  9. Better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How 'bout we hang 'im, burn him at the stake, THEN tar him. Then he'll become the tar baby and briar rabbit can get his foot stuck in him.

    Oh, what sweet justice.

  10. Well that's a new one by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Funny
    Huh... I've heard Satan, Lucifer, Old Serphant, Mephistopheles, The Lord of the Flies, Samael, Old Scratch, the King of Lies, Iblis, Mastema and Beelzebub, but Dan Glickman is a new one by me.

    Guess you learn something new every day...

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    1. Re:Well that's a new one by irokitt · · Score: 1

      Why, for shame, you forgot Cthulhu.

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    2. Re:Well that's a new one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you really seem to have a problem with the guy. Tell me, you clever one who, what you know about the man? Or were you just fishing for points?

      Give him a chance to piss you off, and he probably will... but you're certainly getting ahead of yourself, snidely.

    3. Re:Well that's a new one by Scaba · · Score: 1

      Around here, we call him Dick Glansman.

  11. Dan Glickman by theJerk242 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style.

    How can you play with my emotions like that, you insensitive clod?

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    1. Re:Dan Glickman by Abjifyicious · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was downright cruel if you ask me. I completely fell for that, and it hurts to fall that far.

    2. Re:Dan Glickman by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      Either the mods felt the same way, or they felt even stronger in the same way, and wanted to give him karma for it. I must admit I was actually getting excited for a moment there. Submitter is a cruel bastard.

  12. Maybe, maybe not. by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful


    You know, paying lip-service to the demands of your 'enemies' (hey! they're not going to see us as friends) is a time-honoured "solution" to a sticky problem. So if the MPAA comes out with 'Linux users can be legitimate users if they do X, Y, and Z", even if this only applies to Linux *vendors* , they could claim a certain amount of brownie points in a courtroom.

    "They refused the compromise we offered", "They steal (sic) our IP", "We demand the death penalty", (with the exception of the latter, at least I hope) these are reasonable "court" arguments. Consider the case of the clueless judge (sorry your honour, but it's a fact that most of your kin aren't technically aware), the "industry expert" (read: paid shill), the "compromise offer", and the cold hard law.The 'rock and a hard place' doesn't come into it. Yes I'm aware I'm mixing my metaphors, it's late :-)

    Let's hope they continue to deny us a 'reasonable' way of doing what we want - at least then we have a reasonable argument that they're being unreasonable. This is more important than most realise, I think....

    Simon.

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    1. Re:Maybe, maybe not. by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      for $5 (which is really reasonable) you can get a legal, mostly open source DVD player for linux. here . The fact that linux users won't buy software is another thing.

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    2. Re:Maybe, maybe not. by Dwonis · · Score: 1
      "mostly open source"

      i.e. not open source.

    3. Re:Maybe, maybe not. by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      First, "mostly open source" doesn't mean "open source". Second, it's not $5. Third, it only runs on Linspire. What about Debian, Slackware, Redhat, and every other flavor of linux? I think they just got screwed.

      Key Features:

      * Flawless DVD playback - licensed decryption codecs play commerical discs
      * Broad multimedia support - dozens of video, audio and streaming media formats
      * Affordable - just $4.95 for Warehouse members; $39.95 for non-members

  13. Biography by jm92956n · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a very informative biography on him here.

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    1. Re:Biography by mdvlspwn99 · · Score: 1

      When I see USDA, I think of beef. Dan Glickman will now forever be associated with beef in my mind. Or mad cow...

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  14. Re:Lobbiest by Surak_Prime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Um, Sonny Bono, not Bono. Please don't confuse people who might think that our future Secretary General (when the world gets all cool and Bill and Ted's revolution comes) might have done something heinous like that!

    Be Excellent To Each Other.

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  15. Oh, I dunno about that... by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Don't be looking for that 'approved' Linux DVD player soon."

    Maybe it would just be easier to brainwash him... considering the subject, only a light rinse may be needed.

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    1. Re:Oh, I dunno about that... by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      Cyberlink makes a version for linux. This is fairly recent news. Before, they had just an embedded version, but Turbolinux comes w/ the new PowerDVD for Linux

  16. well well well by Szentigrade · · Score: 0

    I can see why he got the job. Hes got connections in hollywood...

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  17. Re:ha ha by Wizzy+Wig · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    " You know you're a loser when you fail a THIRD post."

    Good on 'em... their loser-ness not only got me bumped up to first post, but got me modded up a point by making me look like a bloody genius in comparison. (Woulda made first post quite by accident had I been logged in when I hit the reply button).

  18. Jackie Chan? by Penguinshit · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    Come on.. lay off Jackie Chan.. those movies were pretty funny (especially Rush Hour).

    Jackie Chan kicks ass (literally). And he has the balls to do his own stunts (and get injured doing them).

    1. Re:Jackie Chan? by Stevyn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Nope, he sucks.

    2. Re:Jackie Chan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a lovely, off-topic, troll.

      have fun in minus-one-ville, its where youre headed. buh bye karma.

    3. Re:Jackie Chan? by Penguinshit · · Score: 0, Offtopic


      Who the hell modded this off-topic?

      Allow me to quote from the header:

      He has previously been a lobbyist for the Walt Disney Corporation, and his son is the producer of such quality fare as 'Shanghai Knights' and 'Rush Hour.'

      It may not be the main topic, but it's not completely off-topic...

    4. Re:Jackie Chan? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Jackie Chan kicks ass (literally). "
      Nooo Bruce Lee kicked as literally, Jackie Chan was trained in Chinese Theater i.e Kinking ass (figurativly)

      I like his movies, and still think 'The Big Brawl' is one of his best.

      He is starting to do fewer of his own stunts. Don't blame him, he is getting a little old to be jumping from one building to another.

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    5. Re:Jackie Chan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      howard stern said something recently to the tune of "well, yeah he does his own stunts, he's a friggin' STUNTMAN"

    6. Re:Jackie Chan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      hah hah.. (O)fftopic. Very funny, motherfucker.

    7. Re:Jackie Chan? by Zordak · · Score: 1

      I would just like to point out that I too am a fan of Jackie Chan, and me citing those films was nothing against him. He is probably my favorite Kung Fu actor. But nothing he has done out of Hollywood comes close to his classics like The Drunken Master

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  19. he's a good lobbyist by pedantic+bore · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well, what did you expect?

    It looks like this guy knows how to lobby very effectively. The MPAA is an organization whose primary purpose is to lobby for the interests of the motion picture industry. Were you really expecting someone who would take things in a new direction? (he was probably hired based on his ability to keep things the way they are!)

    The only thing that's surprising to me is that he doesn't seem to have much connection to the industry. I would have expected an insider to be promoted instead of someone being hired in.

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    1. Re:he's a good lobbyist by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 1
      It looks like this guy knows how to lobby very effectively.

      Why, yes. In fact, according to a previous poster he's the "Lobbiest" lobbyist.

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    2. Re:he's a good lobbyist by h00dLuM · · Score: 1
      I would have expected an insider to be promoted instead of someone being hired in.

      Don't be too surprised, of course he has connections or he wouldn't have been given the job. Wouldn't agriculture secretary have been a part of infecting farmers fields with GM seeds? Lobbyist for Disney?!? Extremely well connected at levels not generally reported to us in the daily rags.

    3. Re:he's a good lobbyist by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      The MPAA is an organization whose primary purpose is to lobby for the interests of the motion picture industry.

      The problem is that they define the motion picture industry as their tight little oligarchy based in "Hollywood" California.

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    4. Re:he's a good lobbyist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And This post documents his rise.

    5. Re:he's a good lobbyist by rpresser · · Score: 1

      Did I just hear somebody say "interlocking directorate"? Or "Money Trust"?

      This has happened before, and it will all happen again.

    6. Re:he's a good lobbyist by leerpm · · Score: 1

      He was a lobbyist for Walt Disney. How much more connected to the industry does one have to be? It's not like Steve Jobs is going to get the job.

    7. Re:he's a good lobbyist by pedantic+bore · · Score: 1
      He was a lobbyist for Walt Disney. ...

      Yes, he was a lobbyist for them. What I meant by connected was that I thought he'd actually be involved with some aspect of production work. I guess that's a pretty naive view, akin to expecting that a car salesman would actually know something about how cars are built.

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  20. Timothy Leary's secrets rediscovered? ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    the MPAA has chosen a new chief to replace Jack Valenti
    ... an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF.

    Whatever you'd just been smoking before coming up with this line ;-), can you let us know what it is - and where there's more of it? (SCNR:-))

  21. Get it from Linspire (100000, Informative) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  22. Wha...?! by Caraig · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style.
    Urge... to kill... rising....
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    1. Re:Wha...?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All work and no play makes Caraig a dull boy.

      ("Hmm...the blood usually gets out on the second floor.")

    2. Re:Wha...?! by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 1
      Urge... to kill... rising....
      Must...control...fist of death....
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    3. Re:Wha...?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incidentally, "Dan Glickman" would make an excellent name for a rock band.

  23. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But so is a standard frost piss.

  24. last time I checked... by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Don't be looking for that 'approved' Linux DVD player soon."

    I'm sorry, but I just really have a pet peeve for geeks who don't show the slightest business-world saavy.

    First off, there ARE approved DVD players running Linux, if I'm not mistaken.

    Second, if by "approved" you mean "MPlayer will have the little DVD industry logo", change "not soon" to "never". There are royalties involved, and that's never going to change. The DVD consortium cares about profits from the royalties first and pleasing the movie industry second (what's the movie industry gonna do, go to another format? Stop releasing DVD disks? Uh huh).

    "Supporting open source, non-royalty-paying, market-share-stealing-from-royalty-paying-players, pirates-movies-easy-as-1-2-3, bypasses-our-forced-previews-and-FBI warnings software" has never been on anyone's(manufacturers, DVD standard consortium, movie industry, MPAA) list, and if you even suggested it, you'd be blown out of the room by the severe laughing fit that resulted.

    Between gasps for air, grabbing their sides, and wiping their tears, they'd say, "oh look, he's so naive, isn't that just the cutest thing in the world".

    1. Re:last time I checked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Okay, here's some background to catch you up on things (you've clearly been on vacation for a while).

      1) Watching a DVD in the United States is ILLEGAL, unless you're using an approved player. Fines and jail time. Not enforced, but it's the law, and it makes people skittish. I find that skittishness reasonable.
      2) There is one approved DVD player for Linux, called LinDVD. It's been available for years, except nobody has ever managed to get a copy of it. It's vaporware. Seriously--try to buy this software and see how far you get.
      3) All other DVD players work great, but are not approved, and therefore the use of these players in the United States is a criminal act.

      I personally don't give a crap and take the "no cop, no stop" approach to the DMCA. I'll watch my movies on my computer until they start arresting people for it. Then I'll stop and move to Canada.

    2. Re:last time I checked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVD Consortium licensing fees only pay their operational costs. There are some IP royalties which go to specific companies but that is separate.

      the DVD consortiums please equally the consumer electronics industry, IT industry, and Content industies. There are more interested parties than just the movie studios.

    3. Re:last time I checked... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Supporting open source, non-royalty-paying, market-share-stealing-from-royalty-paying-players, pirates-movies-easy-as-1-2-3, bypasses-our-forced-previews-and-FBI warnings software"

      if there is a market for that, you can bet it will be filled. I think the DVD player manufacturers no damn well that tere is a market for skipping anything on the disk, and a few other features.
      You don't really think those 'backdoors' are there on accident, go you?

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  25. A summary of his Ag tenure... by Einer2 · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...can be found at the USDA website. It's a little dated, but it has an interesting excerpt:

    Under Glickman's leadership, USDA has restructured and modernized its enormous, decentralized field office structure, helping cut administrative and overhead costs by about $4 billion. He also has taken a strong, personal interest in civil rights. The Department has recently reviewed its civil rights practices for the first time and has dramatically improved its commitment to fairness and equality, in both treatment of its employees and execution of its programs. At Glickman's direction, the Department settled one of the largest civil rights class action suits filed against the U.S. Government.

    Unfortunately, I didn't get interested in local politics until nearly the end of his term in office, so I can't say too much about his political leanings...

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  26. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a little bit different. Some of us sometimes do have a pre-defined FP in place (I did yesterday with my Mary-Kate Olsen/Ronald Reagan FP), but that's still a timing issue. Doing a YFI isn't quite so time intensive. Granted, both should have some creativity involved, but a YFI post should be held to a higher creative standard.

  27. Damn! by JuliusRV · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF.

    When I read that sentence, all of a sudden my heart opened up and I was filled with joy and happiness! I felt incredibly warm and fuzzy all over!
    The next sentence almost killed me :-(

    How insensitive and cruel some people can be!

  28. There is a approved player, and it is dirt cheap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  29. conflict of interest by Kallahar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't this seem like a huge conflict of interest? I realize that there's no laws against it, but wouldn't the other MPAA members worry that this guy's kid works for only one of the member companies?

    1. Re:conflict of interest by jdkane · · Score: 1

      Sounds like it could be a case of favortism bordering on nepotism. Better call in the cold squad.

    2. Re:conflict of interest by glwtta · · Score: 1
      I realize that there's no laws against it, but wouldn't the other MPAA members worry that this guy's kid works for only one of the member companies?

      The beauty of it is that their interests don't actually conflict - MPAA is a lobby group, ipso facto (really wanted to use that somewhere) it's designed to push the interests of the industry as a whole, benefitting all the member companies.

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  30. I'm only 17... by john_sheu · · Score: 0

    Zordak writes "Fox News is reporting that the MPAA has chosen a new chief to replace Jack Valenti. Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style.

    Damn you, almost gave me a heart attack!

  31. Mod parent troll! You can get An approved Xine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    1. Re:Mod parent troll! You can get An approved Xine by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1

      I click buy now and it adds it to my cart for $39.95... Do I need a coupon?

      -If

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    2. Re:Mod parent troll! You can get An approved Xine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4.95 if you're a member. Otherwise it's 40 bucks. Oh, and it's for Linspire, not all the normal Linux distros.

  32. And with the Democrats! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Should payoff big if the democrats control congress or the presidency.

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    1. Re:And with the Democrats! by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Just like it paid off with Valenti--a democrat--under all the democratically controlled congresses and presidencies he was around for?

  33. Ask Slashdot? by Spaceman40 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anybody think we can get an interview/Q&A session with this guy? If we can let him know a little more about our position (was it the journalist from MIT that interviewed Valenti?), maybe we can avoid an out-and-out war, and let him know we really care about this stuff...

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  34. You fucking failure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It just shows up as a bunch of boxes (non-printable characters) for me. I've deleted the spaces that Slashshit puts in it, too. Try that again, and this time get it right!

    Try this. Too bad it discards the lower portion of the characters.

  35. GET YOUR APPROVED DVD PLAYER HERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:GET YOUR APPROVED DVD PLAYER HERE! by nkh · · Score: 1

      Linspire claims that installing a DVD player is an expensive, tricky, and complicated process because of the commercial license!?!
      And what about the Xine license (GPL or LGPL)? Should Linspire give for free the source code to their clients?

  36. I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by saudadelinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work at USDA, and was here during Glickman's time. He's a pretty regular guy.

    If he saw you in the hall, he'd say hi. He mostly ate in the regular employee cafeterias, instead of the Secretary's Dining Room (which has pretty the same food, but also wood paneling and table service).

    His official portrait on the Patio (just past the Visitor's Center, if you come in the Whitten Building) shows him standing behind his chair, jacket on the back of the chair, with a kind of sarcastic look on his face. All the others have the usual standing-there-button-up-jacket sort.

    When 50 black farmers demonstrated in front of Clinton's White House for better treatment from USDA, Bill called Dan, and Dan put together the Civil Rights Action Team (CRAT). This team made 92 recommendations to ameliorate the problem, and they were put into place by the Civil Rights Implementation Team (CRIT).

    Glickman gave his full backing to this effort, which, frankly, was resisted in some of the USDA agencies cited in the CRAT Report

    He always struck me as a pretty fair, stand-up kind of guy, so it wouldn't surprise me if well-reasoned, non-hostile Linux advocacy were presented to him, a major victory could be won.

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    1. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by jeffy124 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dan put together the Civil Rights Action Team (CRAT).

      I guess Civil Rights Action Panel was on the list of rejected titles?

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    2. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by prnz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess Civil Rights Action Panel was on the list of rejected titles

      Yup, just after the Civil Liberties Implementation Team.

      -Paul

    3. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by demachina · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There must be something good about him. The Republicans are furious that a Democrat got the job. Billy Tauzin, the thouroughly corrupt Republican who rammed through the Medicare "reform" bill had the first offer but declined. Last I heard he was taking a lucrative job with the drug/health lobby that are the huge beneficiaries of his Medicare "reform" bill. Another revolving door corrupting government and costing tax payers billions. This is the bill that was sold to everyone at $400 billion because the head of Medicare was concealing the $500 plus price tag to get it passed. He was also negotiating a multimillion dollar private sector job, with White approval, while he was working on a tax payer bonanza for his future employers. More revolving door corruption. This bill also precludes Medicare from negotiating for fair prices on drugs like every other country in the world does.

      Glickman is in trouble because he is a lobbyist and the party in power, the Republican's, decided it was their god given right to have a good Republican in this job, so he may finds doors closed to him. Valenti was a Johnson Democrat. If they get a good Republican in this job they can dominate one more part of American life, and put an end to all the un-christian and anti-American movies(like Fahrenheit 911). OK, I may be exaggerating a little but only a little.

      I wager the MPAA will cave to pressure from the right and a extremist Republican will replace him.

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    4. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by Dizzle · · Score: 1

      Citizens Raging Against Phones beat them to it...

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    5. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by bgeer · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If he saw you in the hall, he'd say hi. He mostly ate in the regular employee cafeterias, instead of the Secretary's Dining Room (which has pretty the same food, but also wood paneling and table service).
      So your point is that he doesn't piss acid and breathe fire? Real bad guys don't wear black and have metal masks and claws, they wear nice suits and smile and express compassion for the common man. Then they go to work and figure out how to make money by exploiting people who can't defend themselves.
    6. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every government program every written into law in Washington has cost more than it was "supposed" to. Is there anyone out there that doesn't already realize this fact?

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    7. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by demachina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In this case the Medicare administrator was intentionally concealing the known cost and threatening his employees to keep them from divulging it. It had been made clear that it wouldn't pass if over $400 billion so thats what he said it cost. As soon as it was passed the Bush administration announced the real cost. They ate a little crow, but it was passed and all their friends in the drug, insurance and managed care industry had pork for dinner.

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    8. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by harkabeeparolyn · · Score: 1
      He always struck me as a pretty fair, stand-up kind of guy, so it wouldn't surprise me if well-reasoned, non-hostile Linux advocacy were presented to him, a major victory could be won.

      Yeah, yeah. Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock.

    9. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by aka-ed · · Score: 1
      ? Real bad guys don't wear black and have metal masks and claws

      You seem to have forgotten Jack Valenti already. I'll be happy to see a human face on the movie industry's lobbyist, in lieu of that dapper lizard.

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    10. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by Milo+of+Kroton · · Score: 1

      Bill Gates is Good Guy then? You make no sense.

    11. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by MasonMcD · · Score: 1

      Yup, just after the Civil Liberties Implementation Team.

      I hear all the participants of that team just got back from the Federal Usability Conference on "K-desktop and YOU!"

    12. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by Scaba · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yea, but the Republicans will only be in power for four more months, and you can help make sure that happens.

    13. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess Civil Rights Action Panel was on the list of rejected titles?

      Believe it or not, a merger of Canada's Reform Party and Alliance Party became the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance Party. Yes, all too briefly, the big right wing party here in Canada was known as CCRAP. Go here for a few lines from Canadian politicians after seeing the unfortunate acronym. Canadian politics are just more fun! (Mainly because we can't do anything that would lead to severe global consequences.)

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    14. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by TyrranzzX · · Score: 1

      Heh, there's no I in team, there's no U in asshole, there's no fuckface in go-getter, but there's you're death in my eyes so fuck off.

      heheheheee

    15. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by rozz · · Score: 1
      I guess Civil Rights Action Panel was on the list of rejected titles?

      "Civil Liberties Obligatory Department" was also rejected .. too insensitive!

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    16. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by KUHurdler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the presidency WERE to change hands, it would STILL not occur until January.

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    17. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by D-Cypell · · Score: 2, Funny

      That one was on Clintons 'other list'... I think he had an Intern help him work on it...

    18. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by KjetilK · · Score: 1
      I'd take it even easier. Making money for their members or shareholders are their responsibility. Since making money for members or shareholders is the only way to provide a living and wellfare, it is something they have to do with any legal means. If you don't like it, you should consider socialism (yup, I'm rather socialistic inclined, YMMV).

      The problem isn't that they're evil, it is that they're feeling threatened. People who are feeling threatened, are going to take steps that seem diabolic to outsiders. It does not matter if the threats are perceived or real to one who feels threatened, but to those that want to make a better world, it matters a lot, because you can make a big difference by proving that the threats are just not real.

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    19. Re:I Work At USDA, And That Ain't Necessarily So. by bgeer · · Score: 1
      If you don't like it, you should consider socialism (yup, I'm rather socialistic inclined, YMMV).
      Not relevant. Trying to make money by lobbying for laws that outlaw the competition isn't capitalism or socialism, it's called corruption.
      People who are feeling threatened, are going to take steps that seem diabolic to outsiders.
      An interesting viewpoint. I don't think the problem is whether the threat is real or not though, the problem is that they have been so successful at carrying out their diabolical plans.

      I'm sure at the turn of the last century there were buggy-whip industrialists all afroth over the threat cars posed to their business, but they lost. The difference now is that the threatened industry is having a shocking degree of success at outlawing the competition.

      Anyway a good reply that deserved a response, even if this discussion is off the front page.

  37. Re:There is a approved player, and it is dirt chea by base3 · · Score: 1

    $39.95 is dirt cheap?!

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  38. Wrong! Its only $4.95, read the page properly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  39. Jew from Kansas by glrotate · · Score: 0, Troll

    As a Kansan I always thought it was funny that the Sec of Ag was a Jew from Kansas. Now things are moving closer to equilibrium as he's going to work in Hollywood.

    1. Re:Jew from Kansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But.. YOU'RE a Jew.

  40. Wrong! There is another approved player for Linux! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  41. The similarity is astounding by jdkane · · Score: 4, Funny


    He looks like Mr Burns.

    1. Re:The similarity is astounding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, if you say so.

      I think the "It's funny because it's true" line fails to apply to this. Perhaps this joke is a mutation of the form "It's funny because it'd be funny if it was true"?

  42. I dread the thought of "approved" Linux player by mi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it will be even harder to justify the use of any other player.

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    1. Re:I dread the thought of "approved" Linux player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  43. At least... by hwestiii · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...he's a Democrat.

    I guess that should come as no surprise from Hollywood, but it is apparently getting harder and harder for Dems to work as lobbyist on Capital Hill these days. Mr. Delay has this thing about rigid party loyalty.

    1. Re:At least... by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      Ummm...so was Jack Valenti. He was a cabinet member in LBJ's cabinet. Special assistant to the President, whatever that entails. My Congressman and both of my Senators are thoroughly 0wnz0r3d by the RIAA and MPAA. And they all are Democrats. Dems are usually better about personal freedom issues, but that all falls apart whenever Big Media and their desire for special rights against potential thieves^H^H^Hconsumers enters into the picture.

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  44. Hey, don't rag on Shanghai Knights by Nova+Express · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Shanghai Knights is probably the best (that is to say, least stupid) of all the films Jackie Chan has done in Hollywood. Sure, it's not a patch on his best Hong Kong work, but it has a complete, blessed, 100% absence of Chris Tucker.

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    1. Re:Hey, don't rag on Shanghai Knights by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      Unfortunatly it comes complete with Owen "my nose is funny and I've got a large pole up my ass" Wilson.

      I'd take Chris Tucker any day thanks.

    2. Re:Hey, don't rag on Shanghai Knights by Kphrak · · Score: 1

      Shanghai Knights was horrible, maybe the tenth worst movie I have ever seen. Even putting Jackie Chan in it couldn't redeem it. I vowed never to watch another flick with Owen Wilson in it (a vow previously made regarding Adam Sandler, too).

      Chris Tucker is bad, but Owen Wilson is far worse.

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    3. Re:Hey, don't rag on Shanghai Knights by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I would go with 'The Big Brawl' Jackie Chan before someone decided he needs a side kick.

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    4. Re:Hey, don't rag on Shanghai Knights by jcuervo · · Score: 1

      Hey, Drunken Master rocked.

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  45. Approved linux player by Cow007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The playstation II runs linux AND plays DVDs... Most people know this but I felt like pointing it out anyway. Also I am pretty sure the M$ XBox that also plays dvds runs linux as well.

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    1. Re:Approved linux player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is, the XBox isn't an authorized Linux machine. Not that I don't support the right of people to do as they please with hardware they buy, but Satan will have a cold ass before Microsoft authorizes the XBox to run any form of Linux.

    2. Re:Approved linux player by spacefrog · · Score: 1

      Does is play DVD's while in Linux mode?? If not, that don't count.

      Any machine running Windows, MacOS, or several other operating systems can play DVD's legally with the right software.

      Every single one of these can be dual-booted into linux/bsd and not be able to legally play them. Same difference.

    3. Re:Approved linux player by Cow007 · · Score: 1

      It runs on linux so it is always booted into it.

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  46. Lobbist by thogard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since we pay former congresscritters a fortune to do nothing after they get fired or quit, is there a reason we can't tie their pension into their future income? Once someone leaves congress, they should be given a choice, never work again and collect the cash or never collect the cash and work for whoever but the tax payer isn't going to be giving any handouts.

    1. Re:Lobbist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will have the opposite than intended effect.

      You have people advocating stuff so they can get a fat job afterwards.

    2. Re:Lobbist by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      how about end every term with an execution.

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    3. Re:Lobbist by multiplexo · · Score: 1
      How about combining two popular initiatives, hard time for repeat offenders and term limits. It could be called "Three Terms and You're Out" where anyone serving three terms in Congress is assumed to be guilty of enough stuff to put them away for life.

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  47. Glickman's a straight shooter. by glrotate · · Score: 0, Troll

    As a Kansan Glickman made his reputation by being honest, dull and hardworking. How else does a Democrat Jew get elected by a bunch rightwing Kansan farmers?

  48. Re:Wrong! There is another approved player for Lin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Things I like about Slashdot:

    "Loser" is officially considered a typo (missing the extra "o").
    Whenever the vi-EMACS debate is brought up as a joke, it actually re-starts the debate.
    A person can make 3 points, and even number them, and a responder can just say "Wrong!" as if all 3 points were invalid, when actually just one was.

  49. Re:Lobbiest by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    Huh? I remember Bill and Ted, but I don't have a clue what you're talking about. IIRC, the guy they knew from the future was named "Rufus".

  50. do we really need .... by nomad63 · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. an "approved" Linux DVD player ? Me thinks not ! When something is made legal, it takes the whole fun out of the game IMHO...
    Just a thought

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  51. Very funny... by Eric+Damron · · Score: 1

    "Zordak writes "Fox News is reporting that the MPAA has chosen a new chief to replace Jack Valenti. Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding..."

    Yeah, real funny. I just shit my paints!

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    1. Re:Very funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least it wasn't your pants.

  52. FIX IT YOURSELF! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wikipedia articles, unlike Slashdot articles can be fixed. Click the edit this page link at the top of the page!

  53. Not a problem... by Trogre · · Score: 3, Interesting
    After seeing the appalling quality of "approved" Windows DVD players, I don't *want* an approved one under Linux.

    This is for a number of reasons:
    1. You can be sure that such a player would be closed source because of imagined "intellectual property" contained in the DVD standard. Development would be only done by commercial interests and would most likely stagnate.

    2. In order for it to be approved, it will have to obey silly restrictions like DRM, no full-screen and mandatory no-skip tracks (for trailers, FBI warnings, etc).

    3. Putting aside that it's actually illegal in many countries, it will impose DVD zones back into players. Something I haven't needed to deal with for a number of years now.

    4. There will likely be a crackdown on the "unauthorized" players that actually work. This would also include all command-line DVD tools, such as DVD ripping software which lets you back up your movies (so your 3-year-old doesn't get vegemite on your original Ice Age video).

    5. Any free version would be crippled unless you pay $$$ for the "full" version. Another remnant of outdated business models that I haven't had to worry about for a while.



    No thanks, I'll stick with Ogle, Xine and MPlayer.

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    1. Re:Not a problem... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Okay, I think four of your points are valid, but I take issue with this:

      In order for it to be approved, it will have to obey silly restrictions like DRM, no full-screen and mandatory no-skip tracks (for trailers, FBI warnings, etc).

      Okay. Why would a Linux player be restricted from having full-screen playback? In addition to just being stupid, it would be inconsistent with the fact that approved players with full screen for other platforms abound; why would it be any different for Linux?

      And also, re. #5, how is charging for what you make an "outdated business model"?

    2. Re:Not a problem... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      What I meant I guess was that there would be nothing stopping the powers that be from making the player show only in a window if, say for example, the MPAA deem that 'all those bloody linux users are pirates' and decide to make the linux dvd experience a little less pleasant.

      I agree that not having full-screen playback is stupid, but tell that to the likes of Apple (who didn't put it in Quicktime/Win32 until recently).

      Just my way of re-iterating that we would be at the mercy of whoever does the approving, stupid or otherwise.

      Your point re. #5: Just OSS advocacy, nothing to see here, move along.
      Let's just say that Stallmans "If I can't share it with you then I won't take it" sounds more appealing than Gates' "If you won't give me money, then you can't have it".

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    3. Re:Not a problem... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Ah, I see. Still, I'm convinced that such an action would doom the player; why pay quite a bit of money when you can get a more fully-featured player for free. (And probably have a good defense in court, as you would (should) have no actual damages.) Quicktime's lack of full screen playback I thought was just a ploy to get people to buy Quicktime Pro, which has had it for a long time; thus a commercial DVD decoder would not suffer. Actually, such a feature would be a good one to remove for a demo version... (I dunno about in Windows, but at one point a couple years back I looked online to see if QT had full screen playback support somehow, and saw that pro did. Don't remember specifics about what was there under different OSes.)

    4. Re:Not a problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would also sidestep the issue that we *shouldn't need a damn _approved_ player* in the first place.

      I don't need to pay a license to read my books, I shouldn't need one for watching my *damn own DVD*!

      Grrrr,

      Tels

  54. Changing the "Old Gaurd w/ Old Gaurd" by CygnusXII · · Score: 2, Informative

    You know the old saying "You can't teach and old Dog... Blah, Blah, Blah."

    Like we are all suprised. I mean come on, you Didn't think thay would pick someone, that actuaqlly gave a DAMN, or actually understands something other that the party line.

    Begin Snippet-- Before his election to Congress in 1976, Secretary Glickman served as president of the Wichita, Kansas, School Board; was a partner in the law firm of Sargent, Klenda and Glickman; and worked as a trial attorney at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. He received his B.A. in history from the University of Michigan and his J.D. from the George Washington University. He is a member of the Kansas and District of Columbia Bars.
    Secretary Glickman serves on the board of directors of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange; Communities in Schools; America's Second Harvest; Food Research and Action Center; RFK Memorial Foundation; and The Farm Foundation. He is a member of the Board of Advisors of the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health in New York City. He is also on the International Advisory Board of The Coca-Cola Company; co-chairs the U.S. Consensus Council (with former Governor Marc Racicot) and The Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology (with former Congressman Vin Weber). He has been a senior fellow and part-time instructor in the public policy departments at Georgetown University and Wichita State University.
    Lifted from http://www.iop.harvard.edu/who/director.html
    End Snippet--

    And to add to the List "head Shill for the MPAA"

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  55. IT ALREADY EXISTS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:IT ALREADY EXISTS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm, maybe I'm not playing along with the fun, but I can't get that link to work. I tried copy/paste into a fresh tab,too, nothing. It's like a slashdot effect or something. That would be weird for a semi-big linux distro company to have rank servers though, so maybe there's a bad node plugged up with evil bits between me and that place. Dunno. Anyway...

      For me, the point is moot, I don't need a linux _software dvd player_ until the actual _hardware dvd player_ is $4.95,and I get one then, and the disks with infotainment on them are 50 cents. Until then, occasional used VHS movies from yardsales for a quarter or something like that. That's all that hollywood jazz is really worth.

  56. MOD PARENT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, if we could get this guy on Ask Slashdot... that would be an amazing opportunity.

  57. Reduced prices of DVDs by Ra5pu7in · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whether dropping the price would bring additional sales depends on how many consumers put off or don't buy DVDs simply because the price seems high. Those of us who don't see the value in buying most DVDs (why pay for something I won't watch more than a couple times) won't buy even if the price is dropped by half. I'd rather rent them when I want them (at an average of $5 per rental, I can rent it 6-8 times!).

    Also, dropping the price does something else. It doesn't reduce the cost of the DVD, marketing, and packaging. It only reduces the net profit earned. You can't drop the price by half and sell twice as many and balance out. It doesn't work that cleanly. You would have to drop the price by half the net profit to get that. (And somehow do this so the store still makes the same profit, or you'll have trouble there.)

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    1. Re:Reduced prices of DVDs by Chitinid · · Score: 1

      *needs to go do work and stop replying to comments:)* Also, if you want to watch a movie 5 times, do you want to rent it 5 times at $5 or buy it for $20? Buying it has added benefits of being able to show it/lend it to your friends, or to collect DVDs. Like software, the cost of the DVD and packaging is negligible. I'm not sure why everyone keeps using half. I never said that that would be a good price cut. It's probably too much.

    2. Re:Reduced prices of DVDs by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Hey, you should think og checking them out from the library. Many libraries have a very wide selection.

      under that model, presumably the store would sell more, so they may make less profit per title, but more on overall sales.

      I do wonder what the real money is on the intial, and higher cost, of DVD releases. It seem to me, the work on creating another run, changing the prices, and not getting the numbers exactly right(meaning you buy more at the higher price then you can sell) would eat into the profit of the first/early release.

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  58. Wrong! It's $39.95 unless you've subscribed. by base3 · · Score: 1

    Why don't you try reading the page again.

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    1. Re:Wrong! It's $39.95 unless you've subscribed. by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      How much does subscription cost?

    2. Re:Wrong! It's $39.95 unless you've subscribed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $49.95/yr or $4.95/mo

  59. Acronym Finder brought me this by shlaf · · Score: 0, Funny

    MPAA = My Parents Are Aliens

  60. IT ALREADY EXISTS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  61. Approved Linux DVD player? URL please... by subzerohen · · Score: 1

    Do you have a url to were I can purchase this player? I've been looking for a while now.

    I'd be willing to spend up to $50.

    1. Re:Approved Linux DVD player? URL please... by kidgenius · · Score: 1
      http://www.dvdcreation.com/articles/viewarticle.js p?id=25885

      It comes in the new turbolinux. It's PowerDVD for linux.

      This is different from the ages-old embedded version of powerdvd.

  62. Wrong! Its $39.95, read the page properly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm.. for WAREHOUSE members! Read the page properly!

  63. Yay! by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well I, for one, am very pleased with the change we'll see with Dan Glickman in charge. His name is SO much easier to make fun of than Jack's.

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    1. Re:Yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But we will no longer have the picture of Jack Valenti's living corpse to post!

  64. Re:OH NOES!!!11~`` by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was, but they went and nabbed the guy who was doing the cam rip. Guess I'll have to wait for the DVD rip now.

  65. Fox News Reports . . . by kingjosh · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    And in other news . . . "Bill Gates has been announced as head of the BSA"

    See, it could be worse ;-)

    1. Re:Fox News Reports . . . by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      Thats a recursive statement. Gates is already the wallet for the BSA.

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  66. WARING - he will be worse by argoff · · Score: 1

    This change is really symbolic of a change in tactics. That is, the media industries previously tried to lock in their copyright monopolies by microregulation of all the hardware industries, who are now revolting.

    So now they've switched gears. They are now going to try to lock in their monopoly by using total DRM, and probably resort suvere hardball tactics - which may even include mafia style physical violence and sabatoge of people or companies that are found trying to bypass it. Seriously, if a few burnt down buildings and a few broken legs etc ... keep 100Million in revenue from slipping away, they won't hesitate.

  67. He used to be on the Wichita KS Board of Education by SamDrake · · Score: 1

    ...and always struck me as a reasonable fellow. I have to say I'm somewhat encouraged.

  68. Re:Lobbiest by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sonny Bono is the singer (sonny & cher turned congressman who gave us the copyright extensions.
    Bono is the U2 singer and guitarist. Lately, he's been lobbying various governments to forgive 3rd world debt.

  69. Dan Glickman - Democrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the same party that created the DMCA.

  70. Re:Lobbiest by crankyspice · · Score: 1

    The Sonny Bono extension act served only to bring US protection terms in line with those of Europe. See: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/annual/1998/a 98r-5.htm. Any relationship with Mickey was coincidence, unless you believe France, Germany, et al, were looking out for the Mouse's best interests...

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  71. lobbiest by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Hang on everyone, we are in for a rather scary political ride.. expect more anti-consumer draconian laws to be proposed, and enacted..

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  72. I didn't think that was funny at all by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    The punch line made me cry!

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    1. Re:I didn't think that was funny at all by BCW2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It should. Another Clinton Cabinet member, oh well, if his lips are moving, he's lying.

      Fools whose taxes paid for Clintons lies for eight years are now paying him directly for 937 pages of more lies.

      mod it troll I don't care, I have my opinion just like you do.

      Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.

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    2. Re:I didn't think that was funny at all by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      It's not Flamebait, it's a Troll.

      The truth is that there are 10% on the radical right and 10% on the radical left. They crap on the 80% that should be running things because the press only covers the radicals.

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  73. Re:Lobbiest by bradkittenbrink · · Score: 2, Informative

    Any relationship with Mickey was coincidence

    Not at all. Disney heavily lobbied for this extension to get it passed shortly before a bunch of Disney's IP passed into the public domain. These facts are well documented, for example here, and here, and a lot more places like those. Just because the laws in Europe had protection terms of that length doesn't mean that those terms make sense. And just because someone at the USPTO says that the extension "ensures that American creators will enjoy the same term of protection in Europe as is provided to their European counterparts." doesn't mean that that's the real reason the extension was passed.

  74. Re:OH NOES!!!11~`` by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's why I'm downloading a Telesync anyways. Fuck cams. cams are for loser bitches,

  75. Re:Lobbiest by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    The Sonny Bono extension act served only to bring US protection terms in line with those of Europe.

    Violating constitutional intent to "bring the US in line with Europe" is not OK. In case no one was paying attention, the US explicity requested freedom from Europe so that we may have a much more free country than anywhere else. Allowing the EU to dictate what our laws should say (and vica-versa) would have the founding fathers rolling over in their graves.

  76. There's already an approved linux dvd player by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Check www.linspire.com for a license to do DVD playback with xine. You can get a full, legal license. I think the companies responible for the DVD standard are required, either by law or by their own contracts, to license DVD to all comers willing to pay.

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    1. Re:There's already an approved linux dvd player by rhysweatherley · · Score: 1
      Check www.linspire.com for a license to do DVD playback with xine. You can get a full, legal license. I think the companies responible for the DVD standard are required, either by law or by their own contracts, to license DVD to all comers willing to pay.

      None of this would be required if the MPAA and DVD/CCA had a modicum of common sense. It's just data! I should not need a license to transform 1's and 0's into viewable images, skip the ads, watch it in a different country, or create a backup.

      Those are normal uses required to properly enjoy the work. If you cannot perform normal uses, then what is the point of the exercise?

      One of the early lessons that programmers learn is that algorithms and data are separable issues. Properly formatted and standardised data can be read by any compatible algorithm. What the MPAA and friends want to do is to make it illegal to write certain algorithms, even though there is no technical reason why those algorithms won't work.

  77. Bitter by Atario · · Score: 1
    Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style.
    Damn you, Zordak. Damn you straight to hell.

    [grumble grumble]
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  78. He spoke at my graduation ceremony by dolphin558 · · Score: 0

    Typical liberal....

  79. Damn by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

    You guys got my hopes up that Jack Valenti had died. That would have been a great vacation destination. Going to stomp on his grave. I guess I'll have to wait on that one.

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  80. Yes. Lobbiest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Before he was lobby, then he became lobbier.

    Now he's lobbiest!

  81. Damn by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 4, Funny
    Dan Glickman is an avid Linux user, a well-known consumer advocate, vehemently critical of the DMCA and a member of the EFF. Ha ha. Just kidding, Dave Barry style.

    Well now that's just fucking mean.

  82. What the shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still doesn't work. Just a bunch of blocks. What font should I be using when I look at that? Or is this a loonix thing?

  83. Re:Lobbiest by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    Ouch. I must be getting tired or something. This is the second time today I've been modded down as a Troll.

  84. Licensed Linux player? by Fratz · · Score: 1
    According to The DVD Copy Control Association, there's a company called Sigma Designs who are supposedly working on a licensed DVD player for Linux.

    There seems to be no indication of this on Sigma's website, but I filled out an inquiry on their site a few days ago, just to see. No response yet...

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  85. Crap alive by azadam · · Score: 1

    Wow, what a ripoff. And I feel like a HUGE geek because I actually got excited reading that crap, until I got to tht end.

    Well played.

  86. Re:Wrong! There is another approved player for Lin by Dwonis · · Score: 1
    "Note: Linspire DVD player requires Lindspire [sic] 4.5 or higher."

    Don't waste my time.

  87. About Glickman by LongShip · · Score: 5, Informative
    During the 1980's and 1990's I lived in Wichita, KS and was very active in Democratic politics. In conjunction with those activities I got to know quite a bit about Dan Glickman and his family. In short, he is a compassionate person who is as far from being an ideologue as one could want. I cannot think of anybody as MPAA director who would be better for the free software movement.

    I suggest that those developers involved in software projects which are impacted by MPAA policies get in contact with Dan and present their cases in a reasoned and non-confrontational way. We may be able to partially turn around MPAA silliness.

    1. Re:About Glickman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      During the 1980's and 1990's I lived in Wichita, KS and was very active in Democratic politics. In conjunction with those activities I got to know quite a bit about Dan Glickman and his family. In short, he is a compassionate person who is as far from being an ideologue as one could want. I cannot think of anybody as MPAA director who would be better for the free software movement.

      What about Lawrence Lessig, Linus Torvalds, or Richard Stallman?

  88. another one in favor of making consumers criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >served as a Kansas representative and
    >agriculture secretary under President Clinton

    And I thought that democrats were in favor of the little guy and civil liberties.

  89. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    They're clones! CLoooones I tell you! Here's an example for those too lazy to find them:

    Dan Glickman

    Mr. Burns

  90. Quote by Rai · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "I say to you that Dan Glickman is to Jack Valenti as the Boston strangler is to...that other Boston strangler."

  91. we need to sort "our opinion" first by ciaran_o_riordan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Valenti was an advocate of public debate. I hope this guy is too, but Valenti's openness was unusual. Here's an mp3 of a debate between Lessig and Valenti (although I side with Lessig on the issue, I'd score Valenti as the winner of that debate). And here's the interview of Valenti by the MIT student.

    But what's "our position"? I see a lot of posts about getting an "approved Linux DVD player". I think these posts miss the big point.

    Someone will, eventually (or already?) make a proprietary DVD player for GNU/Linux, and then people can install it, and then where will we be? We'll be as good/bad as Microsoft Windows.

    GNU/Linux is a nicer OS to use because everyone's free to share it and collaborate in it's development. Free software DVD players can't be produced because they are prohibited by the DMCA.

    The goal was freedom and we've come too far to give up on that. We don't need an "approved" player, we need permission for the public to write DVD players.

  92. Re:Wrong! There is another approved player for Lin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not for Linux, that's only for Linspire. It doesn't count.

  93. Re:Glickman's Jew kinfolk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT UP!

  94. goodthing by geekoid · · Score: 1

    I only get 1 vacation, and I'd hate to have to choose between peeing on Ronald Reagan's grave, and peeing on Jack Valenti's grave.

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    1. Re:goodthing by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      God, if they could be buried in the same casket, the world would be a better place!

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  95. Dear Zordak by geekoid · · Score: 0

    Bravo sah, Bravo!

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  96. I can believe by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Disnet had lobbiest in those countries as well as the US.

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  97. Re:There is a approved player, and it is dirt chea by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Astroturfing now, Linspire? For shame.

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  98. Re:Lobbiest by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Hangin's too good for them,
    BURNin's too good for them,
    They should be ripped into ITSY!BITSY! PIECES! AND BURRIED ALIVE!!!

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  99. lobbyists by rkrabath · · Score: 1

    Why do we allow them to get government posistions? That's like letting a terrorist drive a plane...

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  100. entertainment-lobby-is-congress.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The RIAA and MPAA seem to get whatever they wish for, correct? It has been widely reported their proposed unedited legislation is regularly introduced for a vote. This access to government is above and beyond what any of the 'lowly' people have.

    So perhaps they are the NEW congress.

    If we logically follow that notion, if they make the laws, you should DEMAND representation. One person at the helm of the {RIAA,MPAA} is just not good enough.

    Good old satire. If someone built and run the above website with complete mock seriousness, it would probably stick in some people's craw, which is just what you want.

    Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

  101. Re:another one in favor of making consumers crimin by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    And I thought that democrats were in favor of the little guy and civil liberties.

    You really need to share that weed you're smoking with the rest of the class.

    LK

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  102. And often Union by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    I.A.T.S.E anyone?

    I worked as a stagehand years ago and quite often had trouble getting decent work because I wasn't Union. The union guys were making at least $20/hr *more* than I was at the time (90's)

    I'd wager thatn $75,000/yr is for an entry-level Grip/Best Boy these days.

  103. But I know quite a bit about Finland. by Senator+Bozo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You were allies of the Nazis during WWII, weren't you?

    1. Re:But I know quite a bit about Finland. by plj · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You don't know much, if you think it's that simple. Read English Wikipedia's description about Finland in WWII - it's actually very objective, better than many Finnish historical writings.

      The Finnish alliance with Germany during Continuation War was practically the only alternative to avoid Soviet invasion; there weren't any strong Nazi symphaties in Finland. Consider the following questions:
      • How many Nazi allies were able to maintain democratic constitution through the war?
      • How many Nazi allies had field synagogas for their Jew soldiers during the war?
      • How many Nazi allies had Jew soldiers on the line, who were granted German iron crosses for their bravery (although unsurprisingly, they all refused to receive them)?
      Finland has EU's longest ground border with Russia. Nazi allies or not, we fought practically for our existence. Without alliance with Germany, we had likely became Finland's Soviet Socialist Republic, or remained "independent" only under communist puppet government.
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  104. Bye Valenti! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

  105. He said "Dickman!" by jbarr · · Score: 1

    ...damn, my dyslexia!

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  106. Re:Lobbiest by joeljkp · · Score: 1

    Yeah, except the Supreme Court said it didn't violate the Constitution. They're the legal representative for constitutional intent, after all.

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  107. Re:Lobbiest by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    They said it didn't violate the *letter* of the constitution. The Founding Fathers apparently expected future generations to be a bit smarter and left them some leeway. Instead it has been abused by slowly striping away the US's ability to advance literature and science.

  108. How nice by bl8n8r · · Score: 1

    "a seasoned Washington politician, having served as a Kansas representative and agriculture secretary under President Clinton. "

    It's nice to keep the political kissass people close to the money. It expedites the payoffs.

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  109. Re:Lobbiest by joeljkp · · Score: 1

    That's your opinion. The Supreme Court is perfectly capable of interpreting the Constitution beyond the letter; they simply didn't choose to this time around. They didn't feel it necessary.

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  110. Re:Lobbiest by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    No, they specifically said that the constitution was too vague to easily define how long is too long. Thus the decision of the Supreme Court was that they could not impose limitations unless the copyright period could be provably demonstrated to be "unreasonably long".

  111. Re:Lobbiest by joeljkp · · Score: 1

    Fine, fine. The entire point of my response was to point out that the Court said that the extension did not violate the constitution, and that your statement to the contrary was just your opinion.

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  112. When did the DMCA go in? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I guess it did.

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  113. Re:Lobbiest by Zordak · · Score: 1

    And that's just their opinion, which though it is not easily appealable, it is far from indisputable. And, if I remember correctly, the court's opinion in this case was that the term was indeed too long, but it was the prerogative of Congress to make that decision officially. A real cop-out in my opinion. They basically said, "Yeah, it's an Unconstitutional law, but we don't have the nerve to strike it down because we Fear the Mouse or something."

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  114. Re:Lobbiest by joeljkp · · Score: 1

    No, they said "this might not be wise policy, but it's not unconstitutional". Their job was to determine if it violated the Constitution; they said it did not.

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  115. Approved Linux player? I think not.... by ronhack · · Score: 1

    I read that article. Pointing out that the architecture of the XBox is similiar to a PC, a couple of guys worked on compiling Linux on the XBox, but just as a "can it be done" query, and not as a Linux workstation of any standing (they blame lack of driver support, and info, for the XBox for this).
    Sure, it can Linux, but.......

  116. Oh good. by jcuervo · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new MPAA overlord!

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  117. Didn't I just see you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ooooooh yeah, it was in Metamod.
    enjoy your unfair rating, assfuck.

  118. oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new Linux-and-EFF-loving overlo-

    What's that you say?!?