It is true that a single Athlon FX-57 is faster when running just one application, without taking into consideration performance tuning and processor affinity.
However, many modern gamers are running a great deal of applications. Teamspeak, game, browser, gamepad software, mouse software, etc. Quickly your common performance tests from *insert_tech_site* are invalid.
Dual processor systems have a kind of zip to them that is very noticeable, even when under heavier loads.
Monarch has a quality reputation, but I have a few problems with that system. In order to build a true screamer, I think some component changeouts and modifications are in order.
Motherboard: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.html This motherboard supports dual opterons, so you can stick in there 2 dual core opterons. Using processor affinity you could balance load across processors (I am not sure if you can use processor affinity per core - if anyone can answer that, I'd appreciate it.
Soundcard Creative Soundblaster based sound cards have had buggy drivers for as long as I can remember. Lets get some turtle beach in there, or better yet, some lower end audiophile hardware http://www.m-audio.com/index.php
Paltry amount of Ram 2 GB is like the lowest amount of ram I'd use for a highend performance system. 4 GB - 8 GB is more like the appropriate number. When I am running WoW, VLC, Thunderbird, Firefox, Gimp, TS, and Eric3 all at once. I want them all to be fast and responsive as if I had only one application running.
I have seen this time and time again while working for large corporations
1. Focus on short term profits over long term profits. 2. Management by MBAs that have no technical understanding, and cannot understand technical subjects, nor key trends and drivers in an industry. 3. Rampant cost-cutting, to the point of providing legacy computers to their employees. 4. Hiring incompetent, wannabe techies with no mastery of technical subjects or even the motivation to learn. 5. Lack of vision for developing core capabilities to market leading potentials 6. Revenue-stream milking, to the detriment of all other activities
I think the parent poster is very accurate. If there is a problem, it is our litigation prone society that rewards lawyers over engineers and scientists, exponentially. Our innovators should be better compensated, and the tort/IP system reformed.
That would be a start in the right direction. I'd like the Bush administration to change those problems first.
The grand marshal staff, is inferior to the combination of an azuresong mageblade with an offhand item
Grand Marshal staff:
+41 Stamina
+23 Intellect
+17 Spirit
damage/healing + up to 71
Azuresong mageblade + Tome of Fiery arcana
+7 Stamina
+12 Intellect
1% Spell crit
damage/healing + up to 80
Based off 1% crit equalling 22, the azuresongmageblade+offhand combo would have around a 30 damage higher max, but lose in the stats department.
Although stats are important, they make less of a difference to mages than do more damage.
Many PVPers have the opinion that WOW PVP is a skill-less. PVEers have a *HUGE* advantage when fighting PVPers because of the superior loot provided by the high end PVE instances (MC & BWL). In addition, WOW PVP in general lacks sufficient counters in order to rise to the level of the Pre UO:R tank mage era that is widely viewed as the best PVP implementation to date. So PVPers see WOW PVP as very paper-rock-scissors based on classes and gear, rather than player skill.
1. What plans do you have to remediate the gear problems and make WOW more skill based and less designed around PVE?
2. Are there any plans to shutdown the chinese farmers?
3. Will there ever been a kill-death ratio implemented into battlegrounds to track true player superiority, not just who plays the most?
4. Has there been any consideration to the PVP community request for a Free for all (FFA) server without instances (which will allow for dungeon control)?
5. For a long time, casters, mages in particular have been being nerfed into oblivion. Are there any plans to make easily available to casters high end gear that offers comparable damage increase to that which is provided to melee classes such as the unstoppable force weapon, for example?
6. Are there any plans to create a cross-server battlegrounds so alliance from all servers can face horde from all servers instead of the huge lengthy battleground queues that often exceed 4 hours on popular servers?
$ans is headed for the scrap heap....... downward spiral cataloged:
1. They are out gunned by just about every University with an information security program.
2. They slit their own throats by dumbing down their cert.
3. ISC2 kicks their butts on the high end industry recognized cert.
4. They can't match the intellectual genius of just one of the elite security firms, let alone the mediocre ones.
5. People get sick of paying $2500 to sit in a seminar packed with 400 other gullibles, just to watch powerpoint slides for 5-6 days.
Instead of covering the $ans pathetic "notice me" headlines as they swan song, why not cover something exciting?
For many years I've been perturbed, having to retain Windows hosts for my gaming needs. Though I would love to use Linux/*BSD fulltime, in the past I haven't been able to just from compatibility.
Now, it appears with Vista's pathetic OpenGL support, we are going to be forced to move.
My own pet security project (OSS-based) within AT&T has recently been obtaining far more support too. I've also been in talks with some bigwigs about expanding some of our other security capabilities.
Everyone I have been in discussions with has stated one thing clearly - AT&T is going to be moving seriously into security.
Daniels Robbins is a very smart, friendly individual that has exerted a *HUGE* amount of time, effort, and finances on Gentoo.
As a seriously busy individual, he always took time out to talk to the little guy.
Unfortunately, his work with Gentoo never paid the bills enough for him to rely upon it.
How can you possibly insult someone that has a family to support, and bills to pay? He has paid his dues!
I hope Daniel Robbins will take his customary brilliance to Microsoft and do great things. Of all corporations that need a breath of fresh air, Microsoft is foremost. Business Model reinvention la? Perhaps we can look forward to new Microsoft products being GPL'd:)
A better question, what do people even run on a Windows server?
Things that can afford downtime.
I find your suggestion to run Mission critical systems on Windows completely laughable.
How many of your fortune 500 companies are running their all important databases using Windows?
First of all, PJ's articles have been very accurate.
MOG took a role in media sensationalism, inaccuracy, and FUD. When her articles descended into ad hominem attacks, people reacted.
People emailed SYS-CON advertisers.
Fuat Kircaali called up individuals emailing advertisers, and threatened to sue them.
Instead, the OSS community threatened a boycott of SYS-CON. We made our positions on anti-OSS publications well known.
I guess because I received an unfriendly phonecall from Fuat Kircaali threatening to sue me over my emails, that I am somehow one of these crackpots?
Instead, I will rebut with this: John Dvorak is not fully acquainted with the overall tone of the MOG articles, and the SYS-CON support for her anti-OSS sensationalist agenda.
If threatening a boycott, is somehow construed as a death threat, John Dvorak should stop pointing fingers and instead enroll in english 101.
We still haven't seen any evidence of a DDOS. No logs, no IP addresses, no documentation.
We still have an unapologetic publisher (Fuat Kircaali)
We do have "media analysts" pontificating on subjects they appear to be thoroughly ignorant in.
I guess John Dvorak is following in the MOG tradition. Will he be syndicated by SYS-CON next?
Mr. Kircaali is *FULL OF IT*.
I have several emails from his advertisers expressing their discontent with the content of MOG's attacks on PJ
He is tap-dancing, to make himself the victim.
Instead, he should be looked at the kid in the corner wearing the dunce cap, obviously for making disruptions.
My email ("A problem with your advertising + SYS-CON Media website") was quoted in that interview.
I'd like to set the record straight on what Fuat Kircaali discussed with me.
I sent out email to SYS-CON advertisers, questioning them if they knew about the article. A few hours later I received a call from him.
First he was yelling at me "I want to speak with the chairman of $MYEMPLOYER"
Then he started threatening to sue me.
It was only then that I said I he could easily discuss this with my lawyer.
Only after his verbal tirade continued, did I choose to end the conversation with him. His claim that people "needed legal counsel" is a joke. He was threatening to sue people, they no doubt replied "speak to my lawyer".
Mr Kircaali treated me in a manner which I find unbecoming of a CEO / publisher. He also did not know the definition of slander/defamation either.
Another legal newb attempting to intimidate people.
gg.
two point on that
1. Democrats&republicans united to defeat that individual (bipartisan).
2. The filibuster used then, was the extended debate. That is not the modern filibuster (we are not going to vote on it/no extended debate as in ages past).
The link you brought up, actually weakened your own case.
I am happy to see that Fuat Kircaali & the Linuxworld editors are standing up for quality journalism.
I am looking forward to reading future articles there.
Show me a coder that has led an OSS project, done the heavy lifting of "cat herding" and intimately knows how to get things done in the real world.
I'll take a person like that in a heartbeat over someone with an M.S. in whatever and no true experience / passion / body of work.
If there is something wrong in the computer field these days, it is too many people wanting a high paying salary without a true desire to learn, devotion or grasp of the basics in the technology field.
At a previous workplace, I once met a "security" administrator, that couldn't manage an OS install, of any OS. I am sure that kind of ignorance is replicated all over the industry by know-nothing people looking for bucks only.
Where I am working now, I have a developer in my group, just graduated from a top 5 engineering school with a C.S. degree. The first words out of his mouth, "I don't like to code, I want to do something else".... (holding down a dev position, mind you).
"On all reasonable measures of performance, stability, and technical accessibility, Linux is well ahead of the latest Microsoft products and so shines in such comparisons. It is not, however, remotely a leading edge system in the same class with the BSD family of Unix products and Sun's Solaris."
Not leading edge? I guess all those monster linux clusters are legacy then. So much for Gentoo... and so many other bleeding edge Linux projects.
I never knew http://www.sra.co.jp/index-en.html was only 10 d00ds.
That is right, PostgreSQL does have true enterprise support, and not from GPL-twisters either......
GD Mozilla knew about a serious vulnerability for more than 6 months in their browser, and didn't do anything about it, leaving hundreds of millions exposed.....
Slashdot Mirror
It is true that a single Athlon FX-57 is faster when running just one application, without taking into consideration performance tuning and processor affinity.
However, many modern gamers are running a great deal of applications.
Teamspeak, game, browser, gamepad software, mouse software, etc. Quickly your common performance tests from *insert_tech_site* are invalid.
Dual processor systems have a kind of zip to them that is very noticeable, even when under heavier loads.
Monarch has a quality reputation, but I have a few problems with that system. In order to build a true screamer, I think some component changeouts and modifications are in order.
l This motherboard supports dual opterons, so you can stick in there 2 dual core opterons. Using processor affinity you could balance load across processors (I am not sure if you can use processor affinity per core - if anyone can answer that, I'd appreciate it.
4 80&p=1 These things are mainstream now (for those that lusted for years after the highend $10k+ ramdrives).
Motherboard:
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.htm
Ramdrive
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2
Soundcard
Creative Soundblaster based sound cards have had buggy drivers for as long as I can remember. Lets get some turtle beach in there, or better yet, some lower end audiophile hardware http://www.m-audio.com/index.php
Paltry amount of Ram
2 GB is like the lowest amount of ram I'd use for a highend performance system. 4 GB - 8 GB is more like the appropriate number. When I am running WoW, VLC, Thunderbird, Firefox, Gimp, TS, and Eric3 all at once. I want them all to be fast and responsive as if I had only one application running.
I have seen this time and time again while working for large corporations
1. Focus on short term profits over long term profits.
2. Management by MBAs that have no technical understanding, and cannot understand technical subjects, nor key trends and drivers in an industry.
3. Rampant cost-cutting, to the point of providing legacy computers to their employees.
4. Hiring incompetent, wannabe techies with no mastery of technical subjects or even the motivation to learn.
5. Lack of vision for developing core capabilities to market leading potentials
6. Revenue-stream milking, to the detriment of all other activities
I think the parent poster is very accurate. If there is a problem, it is our litigation prone society that rewards lawyers over engineers and scientists, exponentially. Our innovators should be better compensated, and the tort/IP system reformed.
That would be a start in the right direction. I'd like the Bush administration to change those problems first.
The grand marshal staff, is inferior to the combination of an azuresong mageblade with an offhand item Grand Marshal staff: +41 Stamina +23 Intellect +17 Spirit damage/healing + up to 71 Azuresong mageblade + Tome of Fiery arcana +7 Stamina +12 Intellect 1% Spell crit damage/healing + up to 80 Based off 1% crit equalling 22, the azuresongmageblade+offhand combo would have around a 30 damage higher max, but lose in the stats department. Although stats are important, they make less of a difference to mages than do more damage.
Many PVPers have the opinion that WOW PVP is a skill-less. PVEers have a *HUGE* advantage when fighting PVPers because of the superior loot provided by the high end PVE instances (MC & BWL). In addition, WOW PVP in general lacks sufficient counters in order to rise to the level of the Pre UO:R tank mage era that is widely viewed as the best PVP implementation to date. So PVPers see WOW PVP as very paper-rock-scissors based on classes and gear, rather than player skill.
1. What plans do you have to remediate the gear problems and make WOW more skill based and less designed around PVE?
2. Are there any plans to shutdown the chinese farmers?
3. Will there ever been a kill-death ratio implemented into battlegrounds to track true player superiority, not just who plays the most?
4. Has there been any consideration to the PVP community request for a Free for all (FFA) server without instances (which will allow for dungeon control)?
5. For a long time, casters, mages in particular have been being nerfed into oblivion. Are there any plans to make easily available to casters high end gear that offers comparable damage increase to that which is provided to melee classes such as the unstoppable force weapon, for example?
6. Are there any plans to create a cross-server battlegrounds so alliance from all servers can face horde from all servers instead of the huge lengthy battleground queues that often exceed 4 hours on popular servers?
$ans is headed for the scrap heap.... ... downward spiral cataloged:
1. They are out gunned by just about every University with an information security program.
2. They slit their own throats by dumbing down their cert.
3. ISC2 kicks their butts on the high end industry recognized cert.
4. They can't match the intellectual genius of just one of the elite security firms, let alone the mediocre ones.
5. People get sick of paying $2500 to sit in a seminar packed with 400 other gullibles, just to watch powerpoint slides for 5-6 days.
Instead of covering the $ans pathetic "notice me" headlines as they swan song, why not cover something exciting?
For many years I've been perturbed, having to retain Windows hosts for my gaming needs. Though I would love to use Linux/*BSD fulltime, in the past I haven't been able to just from compatibility.
Now, it appears with Vista's pathetic OpenGL support, we are going to be forced to move.
Fortunately, WINE appears to be doing great things, and World of Warcraft is on the gold list. Hell, even Teamspeak has a linux client too!
Disclaimer: I am an AT&T security employee
r a.html
Recently the talk has started about Aurora http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/053005-auro
which was available internally for some time and more recently became an offering (in test).
My own pet security project (OSS-based) within AT&T has recently been obtaining far more support too. I've also been in talks with some bigwigs about expanding some of our other security capabilities.
Everyone I have been in discussions with has stated one thing clearly - AT&T is going to be moving seriously into security.
Daniels Robbins is a very smart, friendly individual that has exerted a *HUGE* amount of time, effort, and finances on Gentoo.
:)
As a seriously busy individual, he always took time out to talk to the little guy.
Unfortunately, his work with Gentoo never paid the bills enough for him to rely upon it.
How can you possibly insult someone that has a family to support, and bills to pay? He has paid his dues!
I hope Daniel Robbins will take his customary brilliance to Microsoft and do great things. Of all corporations that need a breath of fresh air, Microsoft is foremost. Business Model reinvention la? Perhaps we can look forward to new Microsoft products being GPL'd
Good luck Daniel!
A better question, what do people even run on a Windows server? Things that can afford downtime. I find your suggestion to run Mission critical systems on Windows completely laughable. How many of your fortune 500 companies are running their all important databases using Windows?
I believe John is severely deluded.
First of all, PJ's articles have been very accurate.
MOG took a role in media sensationalism, inaccuracy, and FUD. When her articles descended into ad hominem attacks, people reacted.
People emailed SYS-CON advertisers.
Fuat Kircaali called up individuals emailing advertisers, and threatened to sue them.
Instead, the OSS community threatened a boycott of SYS-CON. We made our positions on anti-OSS publications well known.
I guess because I received an unfriendly phonecall from Fuat Kircaali threatening to sue me over my emails, that I am somehow one of these crackpots?
Instead, I will rebut with this:
John Dvorak is not fully acquainted with the overall tone of the MOG articles, and the SYS-CON support for her anti-OSS sensationalist agenda.
If threatening a boycott, is somehow construed as a death threat, John Dvorak should stop pointing fingers and instead enroll in english 101.
We still haven't seen any evidence of a DDOS. No logs, no IP addresses, no documentation.
We still have an unapologetic publisher (Fuat Kircaali)
We do have "media analysts" pontificating on subjects they appear to be thoroughly ignorant in.
I guess John Dvorak is following in the MOG tradition. Will he be syndicated by SYS-CON next?
Mr. Kircaali is *FULL OF IT*. I have several emails from his advertisers expressing their discontent with the content of MOG's attacks on PJ He is tap-dancing, to make himself the victim. Instead, he should be looked at the kid in the corner wearing the dunce cap, obviously for making disruptions.
My email ("A problem with your advertising + SYS-CON Media website") was quoted in that interview. I'd like to set the record straight on what Fuat Kircaali discussed with me. I sent out email to SYS-CON advertisers, questioning them if they knew about the article. A few hours later I received a call from him. First he was yelling at me "I want to speak with the chairman of $MYEMPLOYER" Then he started threatening to sue me. It was only then that I said I he could easily discuss this with my lawyer. Only after his verbal tirade continued, did I choose to end the conversation with him. His claim that people "needed legal counsel" is a joke. He was threatening to sue people, they no doubt replied "speak to my lawyer". Mr Kircaali treated me in a manner which I find unbecoming of a CEO / publisher. He also did not know the definition of slander/defamation either. Another legal newb attempting to intimidate people. gg.
two point on that 1. Democrats&republicans united to defeat that individual (bipartisan). 2. The filibuster used then, was the extended debate. That is not the modern filibuster (we are not going to vote on it/no extended debate as in ages past). The link you brought up, actually weakened your own case.
I am happy to see that Fuat Kircaali & the Linuxworld editors are standing up for quality journalism. I am looking forward to reading future articles there.
A boycott!
You must be joking.
Show me a coder that has led an OSS project, done the heavy lifting of "cat herding" and intimately knows how to get things done in the real world.
I'll take a person like that in a heartbeat over someone with an M.S. in whatever and no true experience / passion / body of work.
If there is something wrong in the computer field these days, it is too many people wanting a high paying salary without a true desire to learn, devotion or grasp of the basics in the technology field.
At a previous workplace, I once met a "security" administrator, that couldn't manage an OS install, of any OS. I am sure that kind of ignorance is replicated all over the industry by know-nothing people looking for bucks only.
Where I am working now, I have a developer in my group, just graduated from a top 5 engineering school with a C.S. degree. The first words out of his mouth, "I don't like to code, I want to do something else".... (holding down a dev position, mind you).
Solaris is dying
1. Get treated badly by Bestbuy 2. Pay with $2 bills as protest 3. Get arrested, handcuffed to a pole 4. Sue police & bestbuy for millions 5. Profit!
"On all reasonable measures of performance, stability, and technical accessibility, Linux is well ahead of the latest Microsoft products and so shines in such comparisons. It is not, however, remotely a leading edge system in the same class with the BSD family of Unix products and Sun's Solaris."
Not leading edge? I guess all those monster linux clusters are legacy then. So much for Gentoo... and so many other bleeding edge Linux projects.
Ignorance in journalism? Never!
Why is this being labeled as something new? I remember this being a problem back in 1997 when I was still working as a webmaster.
Whoever posted this as a "new" item, is behind the times.
OWASP covers it!
Lets not rehash old things!
I never knew http://www.sra.co.jp/index-en.html was only 10 d00ds. That is right, PostgreSQL does have true enterprise support, and not from GPL-twisters either......
The article seems to follow this logic: Scientists by consensus are right. Anyone on the fringe is wrong. Don't publish material from the fringe.
like tits on a bull
GD Mozilla knew about a serious vulnerability for more than 6 months in their browser, and didn't do anything about it, leaving hundreds of millions exposed.....
Oops, s/Mozilla/Microsoft ^^
OSS > closed&vulnerable