The fact that it was sent via e-mail can easily be backed up with mail server records, which will be released if needed.
While this senator is obviously not the most technically astute, he does at least grasp the basic concept that all of his internet traffic is running through some kind of web proxy server:
When asked if he ever looks at pornography while on the Senate floor, Bennett responded, "You'd have to be insane to do that. It all goes through a server. I don't think anybody would be doing that."
And then there is the fact that he closes it within seconds of it appearing on his screen, and if you look at the application open immediately behind the image, it's quite obviously an e-mail client.
From the evidence available from the video, I see no reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Actually, if the local internet connection uses Websense or a similar product, all of his transmitted and received data really DOES go through a server, the web proxy server. So he's far more educated about it than Ted Stevens.
And apparently you can't read. The girls are NOT topless! The black bar wasn't needed. It was added to provide the impression that the girls were topless, thus increasing the salaciousness and "newsworthiness" of the story.
And there's a few things that Tesla got wrong in his prediction... he said that it would be possible and easy for a single tower to control millions of devices from thousands of miles away. In reality there's millions of cell towers in the world, and each may have a few thousand phones on it at a maximum. There's a few orders of magnitude difference there.
Can you really say he got it wrong though? Also note that he was talking about devices "no bigger than a wristwatch". My Palm Pre is significantly larger than a wristwatch, as are ALL mobile phones, smart or otherwise.
Perhaps it is more correct to say that his vision hasn't been fully fulfilled yet, but that we are, for the first time, able to fully comprehend what he was talking about.
I was going to mod you, but decided that a proper reply would be more appropriate.
While I certainly don't disagree with your arguments vis-a-vis the Gold Standard and fiat currency, I feel I should remind you of a few things:
1 - The name of our country is the United States of America. The citizens of this country are properly referred to as "Americans" You wouldn't like it if I called you a "canuck" or a "CA-ian" would you? Using improper terminology to refer to someones nationality is rude and inappropriate. It mars your otherwise insightful post.
2 - We ARE fighting back against the Socialist forces in this country. We are simply following the "4 boxes" method. You remember, there are 4 boxes to use in the defense of Liberty. Soap, Ballot, Jury, Ammo. They are to be used in that order, and in descending frequency. Right now the Soap box is in Full use. See "The Tea Party Movement" for a high-profile version of that. Come November we will be using the Ballot box to remove those who support Big Government socialism, and if need be, we will make use of the Jury box. After all that the ammo box shouldn't be necessary.
Of course, there is also the fact that while HP had a very strong showing in the early days of smart phones, their recent offerings have been very lackluster. With HP acting as partner and "sugardaddy" to Palm, Palm can begin to put out some really impressive smartphone offerings, along with HP offering the fantastic WebOS on an HP tablet. It's a great combination, and the WebOS platform has a great future ahead of it.
Perhaps Arizona wouldn't feel the NEED to enact such laws if the Federal Government would DO THEIR JOBS and enforce immigration law.
As it stands right now immigration law is intentionally not being enforced for political purposes. IE: to allow as many illegal immigrants in as possible, so that they can be granted amnesty by Democrats registered as Democrats and vote Democrat, thus granting the Democrat party POWER in perpetuity.
America is a nation of LAW. That is the meaning of having a Republic rather than a Democracy. When one party (regardless of which one!) takes control of the Federal government and proceeds to flaunt the law for their own political and power gaining ends, then the law is meaningless, and the Federal Government ceases to exist as a legal authority. It is then up to the member States of the Union to uphold law themselves, until the Federal Government can be brought back under control. AZ is simply following the founding principles and I cheer them on.
Incidentally, Utah is now considering a similar law. Expect to see many many states consider and/or pass similar laws, and pity the people in states that do not, as they will be swamped with illegal aliens and the crime that comes with them.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because Democrats never get CAUGHT stealing music, doesn't mean they don't steal.
Actually, it's more like: Democrats get whatever they want from their good buddies at the RIAA and get a pass from lefty music artists. The charge never comes up because no lefty musician or music company EVER MAKES IT. (Ya don't eat your own, don't ya know.)
But the moment any Republican uses ANY music by any left-leaning musician, an army of lawyers and Old Media types scramble to find if they "stole" it. That just doesn't happen with Democrats.
Prime example: During the last Presidential election the McCain campaign was accused of "stealing" the song "Barracuda". The problem for the accusers was that the McCain campaign already had a contract with the company that held the rights to that song that allowed them to play it. Yet WEEKS of hay were made from a literal non-story because the original artist didn't like the McCain camp using it, despite them having met the legal requirements for use.
So forgive me if I take your "Republicans steal music" "evidence" with a MOUNTAIN of salt. History has taught me to deeply distrust leftist "news" sources.
I was attempting to describe the rationale behind attempting a social engineering attack against iPad/iTunes users, not to make a general statement on my opinion of iPad or iTunes users. Please note that I did not say that I agreed with the rationale. (Although I could have been clearer on that point I suppose.)
All that aside though, none of this changes the fact that both the/. article AND TFA both have poor and incorrect premises and summaries.
Unless, of course, you want to consider the end-user as the ultimate "back-door" hack into any device. Which might not be all that far off from reality after all...
Either that or develop REALLY big heat-resistant corks for every volcano on the planet. And maybe some special purpose caulk for the mid-Atlantic ridge and all those undersea vents.
You don't even want to KNOW the plans for Yellowstone.
If you want to get really pedantic, the target isn't even the Windows box. It's the user's information and the profits that can be gleaned either directly or indirectly from aggregating such information from millions of such users.
I'm guessing that the rationale behind this is that people who snap up the iPad are trend-following sheep with more money than sense who are "easy marks" and thus more likely to fall for a "social engineering" attack such as this one.
Google may fall in the second cathegory by current law.
Except that it quite clearly does not.
Google didn't re-post the libelous comments AS GOOGLE or as a Google Employee or legal functionary. if they had, then your example "B" would be dead-on. Google's case clearly falls under Example "A".
They were simply providing a forum. If you read the TOS of the forum in question the person in question was clearly in violation of the TOS. So someone misrepresented themselves (by agreeing to the TOS) and then posted something libelous which Google was not quite quick enough in removing. How, in any SANE universe is this Google's fault?
No, the Judge is just a freaking moron and/or the law in Brazil is stupidly written.
Yes it is. The problem is that no one is using it, and many applications are IPv6 unaware. When we "run out" I am guessing that this will change fast.
Indeed.
As far as I am aware, EVERY up to date operating system in use is IPV6 aware and capable. (Note I said "up to date". This would NOT include iterations of Windows prior to Vista, as they are now all officially "End of Life". According to Microsoft, anyway.)
Umm.. you really haven't been following Palm at all have you?
That e-mail exploit was closed back during the initial months after launch, and hasn't been needed to install software for AGES. If you read my post above you might notice Preware mentioned. There is also WebOS Quick Install available, Which many people use to initially install Preware with.
When I open Preware on my Pre I show (as of 04/12/10) over 2000 apps available. Admittedly, that's not as many as the iPhone or even Android. But the app availability has been growing steadily.
One notable item is that Palm has been uniquely open and forthcoming with the home brew community, even going so far as to integrate some of their improvements into WebOS. Palm has also made their programming staff available to some high profile community developers to assist them in fully integrating apps that they were developing. So in all the ways that count, Palm has been much friendlier and easier to work with for developers than either Apple or Google.
I just hope that whoever buys them continues that tradition.
And it isn't. Palm already has a vibrant non-official app ecosystem. Because it is so dead-easy to program for, many iPhone and Android programmers have ported their apps to WebOS, and they are in the unofficial "catalogs" (Such as PreWare) already.
Very sad to see this happen to Palm. I have a Pre and absolutely love it. Hopefully they will get picked up by HTC or another handset maker and be turned into an OS company. Let's be honest: While WebOS is without a doubt the very best smartphone OS yet made, (Yes, Google Fanboys, it is better than Android in almost every way possible.) it has been crippled by inadequate hardware since launch.
This is clear when you get a Palm Pre Plus from Verizon and use one of the custom patches that are out there to overclock the processor to a level equal to that of an iPhone or Android handset. WebOS becomes WAY more responsive and is such a dream to use you want to weep for joy.
So with luck we will see WebOS on HTC or some other great handset within a year.
Not wanting to possibly let a good browsing option pass me by (hey, maybe they made improvements and fixed some of the dumb stuff since the old version!) and wanting to at least "keep up" and not be ignorant, I just checked out the latest version of Chrome.
UGH! Same ass-ugly faux "minimal" blue-plastic interface, same obnoxiously unhelpful menus, same pointless breaking of UI and function conventions and STILL no Favs/Bookmarks menu! Why the hell anyone would want to subject themselves to such an obtuse browsing experience is beyond me. Might as well go use Konqueror. Bleah.
What, are you one of the seven people on the planet that doesn't use the terms pretty much interchangeably, or are you just being pedantic?
As I noted, I haven't used Chrome since around 1.5 (or thereabouts) I found it ugly, frustrating to use, clunky and generally more of a PITA than it was worth.
Now, I should also note that this was around the time that FF went to version 3.0 and implemented the dreck that is/was the "awesome" bar. So I stayed on FF 2.0.20 for a VERY long time, until 3.5 came out and I was FINALLY able to update as I could simply disable all the shitty "awesome" bar "features" from within the UI.
There are certain conventions that browsers have followed, whether old NN , any version of IE, older Opera, and FF pre-3.0 that FF 3.0, Opera 10+ and Chrome simply BREAK for no other reason than somebody arbitrarily decided that they should. It is stupid, and shouldn't happen with smart design, all the api whiz-bang aside.
Frankly, I don't care if Chrome is the fastest browser in the multi-verse and brings me buttery-nipple flavored ho-ho's on a golden platter. If it violates long established browser UI and function conventions without some dead-simple-obvious way of reverting to standard, then it's off of my PC and out the window. It's a fucking BROWSER for Cripe's sake. I should NEVER be forced to put effort into using it!
Don't get me wrong. Everything needs to advance, technology moves on, blah blah blah. But software designers need to understand that it is inappropriate to just change core features and not expect people to get upset and not adopt. If you want to be avant-garde, that's great. Just don't expect much more than the 10% early adopters to take you up on it.
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The fact that it was sent via e-mail can easily be backed up with mail server records, which will be released if needed.
While this senator is obviously not the most technically astute, he does at least grasp the basic concept that all of his internet traffic is running through some kind of web proxy server:
When asked if he ever looks at pornography while on the Senate floor, Bennett responded, "You'd have to be insane to do that. It all goes through a server. I don't think anybody would be doing that."
And then there is the fact that he closes it within seconds of it appearing on his screen, and if you look at the application open immediately behind the image, it's quite obviously an e-mail client.
From the evidence available from the video, I see no reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Actually, if the local internet connection uses Websense or a similar product, all of his transmitted and received data really DOES go through a server, the web proxy server. So he's far more educated about it than Ted Stevens.
I'm also inclined to believe him.
On the note of your Slashdot embarrassment, The quote in that ad comes from here:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/19/opinion/oe-ehrenstein19
In case you were wondering.
And apparently you can't read. The girls are NOT topless! The black bar wasn't needed. It was added to provide the impression that the girls were topless, thus increasing the salaciousness and "newsworthiness" of the story.
I'm thinking YOU are the "dolt" here.
Strip-clubs have HR departments?
Wow. Who'd-a thunk it?
Yes.
Now, do YOU understand that the image was:
A) Of Bikini-clad women. Not nude, and not even (as TFA falsely states) topless.
B) E-mailed to the Senator uninvited and unannounced, with a deceptive filename.
C) Sent by a female co-worker.
Basically, it's looking more and more like this Senator got Punk'd.
But hey, let's not let a few facts get in the way of a salacious story! This IS /. after all.
And there's a few things that Tesla got wrong in his prediction... he said that it would be possible and easy for a single tower to control millions of devices from thousands of miles away. In reality there's millions of cell towers in the world, and each may have a few thousand phones on it at a maximum. There's a few orders of magnitude difference there.
Can you really say he got it wrong though? Also note that he was talking about devices "no bigger than a wristwatch". My Palm Pre is significantly larger than a wristwatch, as are ALL mobile phones, smart or otherwise.
Perhaps it is more correct to say that his vision hasn't been fully fulfilled yet, but that we are, for the first time, able to fully comprehend what he was talking about.
*sigh*
tgk,
I thought that it was possible to have an intelligent discussion with you. Now I see that you are just trolling.
Therefore, in keeping with the spirit of both your posts, I shall henceforth refer to you with the only term appropriate.
Asshole.
I was going to mod you, but decided that a proper reply would be more appropriate.
While I certainly don't disagree with your arguments vis-a-vis the Gold Standard and fiat currency, I feel I should remind you of a few things:
1 - The name of our country is the United States of America. The citizens of this country are properly referred to as "Americans" You wouldn't like it if I called you a "canuck" or a "CA-ian" would you? Using improper terminology to refer to someones nationality is rude and inappropriate. It mars your otherwise insightful post.
2 - We ARE fighting back against the Socialist forces in this country. We are simply following the "4 boxes" method. You remember, there are 4 boxes to use in the defense of Liberty. Soap, Ballot, Jury, Ammo. They are to be used in that order, and in descending frequency. Right now the Soap box is in Full use. See "The Tea Party Movement" for a high-profile version of that. Come November we will be using the Ballot box to remove those who support Big Government socialism, and if need be, we will make use of the Jury box. After all that the ammo box shouldn't be necessary.
However, if it is needed, my powder is dry.
banged harder and more often than a $2 whore in Naples when U.S. sailors are on shore leave
Aaaand there goes the class in this thread.
Ugh.
Seriously, did the article writer not read ANY of the readily available information about the purchase?
Possibly he was too busy wanking off onto his Android, as he is apparently a MASSIVE Droid Fanboi.
However, had he actually read up on it he would have noted that HP is MASSIVELY interested in WebOS. Particularly in bringing WebOS into the TABLET market to compete directly with the iPad. Hell, the HP execs practically reached through the internet and slapped us all silly with their enthusiasm for WebOS on a tablet!
Of course, there is also the fact that while HP had a very strong showing in the early days of smart phones, their recent offerings have been very lackluster. With HP acting as partner and "sugardaddy" to Palm, Palm can begin to put out some really impressive smartphone offerings, along with HP offering the fantastic WebOS on an HP tablet. It's a great combination, and the WebOS platform has a great future ahead of it.
Perhaps Arizona wouldn't feel the NEED to enact such laws if the Federal Government would DO THEIR JOBS and enforce immigration law.
As it stands right now immigration law is intentionally not being enforced for political purposes. IE: to allow as many illegal immigrants in as possible, so that they can be granted amnesty by Democrats registered as Democrats and vote Democrat, thus granting the Democrat party POWER in perpetuity.
America is a nation of LAW. That is the meaning of having a Republic rather than a Democracy. When one party (regardless of which one!) takes control of the Federal government and proceeds to flaunt the law for their own political and power gaining ends, then the law is meaningless, and the Federal Government ceases to exist as a legal authority. It is then up to the member States of the Union to uphold law themselves, until the Federal Government can be brought back under control. AZ is simply following the founding principles and I cheer them on.
Incidentally, Utah is now considering a similar law. Expect to see many many states consider and/or pass similar laws, and pity the people in states that do not, as they will be swamped with illegal aliens and the crime that comes with them.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because Democrats never get CAUGHT stealing music, doesn't mean they don't steal.
Actually, it's more like: Democrats get whatever they want from their good buddies at the RIAA and get a pass from lefty music artists. The charge never comes up because no lefty musician or music company EVER MAKES IT. (Ya don't eat your own, don't ya know.)
But the moment any Republican uses ANY music by any left-leaning musician, an army of lawyers and Old Media types scramble to find if they "stole" it. That just doesn't happen with Democrats.
Prime example: During the last Presidential election the McCain campaign was accused of "stealing" the song "Barracuda". The problem for the accusers was that the McCain campaign already had a contract with the company that held the rights to that song that allowed them to play it. Yet WEEKS of hay were made from a literal non-story because the original artist didn't like the McCain camp using it, despite them having met the legal requirements for use.
So forgive me if I take your "Republicans steal music" "evidence" with a MOUNTAIN of salt. History has taught me to deeply distrust leftist "news" sources.
Brannon, I think you may have misunderstood.
I was attempting to describe the rationale behind attempting a social engineering attack against iPad/iTunes users, not to make a general statement on my opinion of iPad or iTunes users. Please note that I did not say that I agreed with the rationale. (Although I could have been clearer on that point I suppose.)
All that aside though, none of this changes the fact that both the /. article AND TFA both have poor and incorrect premises and summaries.
Unless, of course, you want to consider the end-user as the ultimate "back-door" hack into any device. Which might not be all that far off from reality after all...
Either that or develop REALLY big heat-resistant corks for every volcano on the planet. And maybe some special purpose caulk for the mid-Atlantic ridge and all those undersea vents.
You don't even want to KNOW the plans for Yellowstone.
If you want to get really pedantic, the target isn't even the Windows box. It's the user's information and the profits that can be gleaned either directly or indirectly from aggregating such information from millions of such users.
I'm guessing that the rationale behind this is that people who snap up the iPad are trend-following sheep with more money than sense who are "easy marks" and thus more likely to fall for a "social engineering" attack such as this one.
Honestly, I doubt it. The fine was less than 10 grand. That's not much in the way of fines. No, just a dumb judge.
Except that it quite clearly does not.
Google didn't re-post the libelous comments AS GOOGLE or as a Google Employee or legal functionary. if they had, then your example "B" would be dead-on. Google's case clearly falls under Example "A".
They were simply providing a forum. If you read the TOS of the forum in question the person in question was clearly in violation of the TOS. So someone misrepresented themselves (by agreeing to the TOS) and then posted something libelous which Google was not quite quick enough in removing. How, in any SANE universe is this Google's fault?
No, the Judge is just a freaking moron and/or the law in Brazil is stupidly written.
IPv6 is not ready for mainstream use yet.
Yes it is. The problem is that no one is using it, and many applications are IPv6 unaware. When we "run out" I am guessing that this will change fast.
Indeed.
As far as I am aware, EVERY up to date operating system in use is IPV6 aware and capable. (Note I said "up to date". This would NOT include iterations of Windows prior to Vista, as they are now all officially "End of Life". According to Microsoft, anyway.)
Great.
So instead of being blind I can look like Grandpa?
Oh goody! Where do I sign up? /sarc
Time to start on the new CS5 torrent!
I wonder if TPB has it yet?
Umm.. you really haven't been following Palm at all have you?
That e-mail exploit was closed back during the initial months after launch, and hasn't been needed to install software for AGES. If you read my post above you might notice Preware mentioned. There is also WebOS Quick Install available, Which many people use to initially install Preware with.
When I open Preware on my Pre I show (as of 04/12/10) over 2000 apps available. Admittedly, that's not as many as the iPhone or even Android. But the app availability has been growing steadily.
One notable item is that Palm has been uniquely open and forthcoming with the home brew community, even going so far as to integrate some of their improvements into WebOS. Palm has also made their programming staff available to some high profile community developers to assist them in fully integrating apps that they were developing. So in all the ways that count, Palm has been much friendlier and easier to work with for developers than either Apple or Google.
I just hope that whoever buys them continues that tradition.
And it isn't. Palm already has a vibrant non-official app ecosystem. Because it is so dead-easy to program for, many iPhone and Android programmers have ported their apps to WebOS, and they are in the unofficial "catalogs" (Such as PreWare) already.
Very sad to see this happen to Palm. I have a Pre and absolutely love it. Hopefully they will get picked up by HTC or another handset maker and be turned into an OS company. Let's be honest: While WebOS is without a doubt the very best smartphone OS yet made, (Yes, Google Fanboys, it is better than Android in almost every way possible.) it has been crippled by inadequate hardware since launch.
This is clear when you get a Palm Pre Plus from Verizon and use one of the custom patches that are out there to overclock the processor to a level equal to that of an iPhone or Android handset. WebOS becomes WAY more responsive and is such a dream to use you want to weep for joy.
So with luck we will see WebOS on HTC or some other great handset within a year.
Just a quick addendum to my post above;
Not wanting to possibly let a good browsing option pass me by (hey, maybe they made improvements and fixed some of the dumb stuff since the old version!) and wanting to at least "keep up" and not be ignorant, I just checked out the latest version of Chrome.
UGH! Same ass-ugly faux "minimal" blue-plastic interface, same obnoxiously unhelpful menus, same pointless breaking of UI and function conventions and STILL no Favs/Bookmarks menu! Why the hell anyone would want to subject themselves to such an obtuse browsing experience is beyond me. Might as well go use Konqueror. Bleah.
What, are you one of the seven people on the planet that doesn't use the terms pretty much interchangeably, or are you just being pedantic?
As I noted, I haven't used Chrome since around 1.5 (or thereabouts) I found it ugly, frustrating to use, clunky and generally more of a PITA than it was worth.
Now, I should also note that this was around the time that FF went to version 3.0 and implemented the dreck that is/was the "awesome" bar. So I stayed on FF 2.0.20 for a VERY long time, until 3.5 came out and I was FINALLY able to update as I could simply disable all the shitty "awesome" bar "features" from within the UI.
There are certain conventions that browsers have followed, whether old NN , any version of IE, older Opera, and FF pre-3.0 that FF 3.0, Opera 10+ and Chrome simply BREAK for no other reason than somebody arbitrarily decided that they should. It is stupid, and shouldn't happen with smart design, all the api whiz-bang aside.
Frankly, I don't care if Chrome is the fastest browser in the multi-verse and brings me buttery-nipple flavored ho-ho's on a golden platter. If it violates long established browser UI and function conventions without some dead-simple-obvious way of reverting to standard, then it's off of my PC and out the window. It's a fucking BROWSER for Cripe's sake. I should NEVER be forced to put effort into using it!
Don't get me wrong. Everything needs to advance, technology moves on, blah blah blah. But software designers need to understand that it is inappropriate to just change core features and not expect people to get upset and not adopt. If you want to be avant-garde, that's great. Just don't expect much more than the 10% early adopters to take you up on it.
Now, get off my lawn you darn kids! /crankyoldman