Actually, I disagree with myself.
I think the copyright ownership is the biggest issue, and as the players in SL own the copyright and are allowed to sell the stuff, according to the terms of use, then eBay has done the right thing by not making it a blanket ban. My opinion is subject to change again, however, if eBay bans another "game's" items from being sold if the same terms of use are used.
But the point of the de-listing was surely not to exclude game items, so much as to exclude items that are not real.
This itself is a grey area anyway, because there are plenty of people selling data without even burning to a CD.
I would have thought that a decent rule (from their perspective) is no data that doesn't exist on a device which the seller controls can be sold. This would also exclude Second Life, I would think, so it leads me towards believing that this has been done specifically to promote Second Life relative to other online environments.
I remember about 3 or 4 years ago reading how they are always putting in so many computers and that they had so many all racked up that it would have been more effort than it was worth to locate and replace the dead ones so they just leave them on the racks, because it works out cheaper.
There is no fucking obscenity on message boards.
What kind of cunts out there think there's fucking obscenity on the net?
What a bunch of donkey-raping shit-eaters!
What the fuck is the matter with the U.S. government's retarded-puppy-raping legislators?
Obscenity on the internet... Sometimes, I tell you... Jesus baby-fucking Christ that's preposterous...
Sounds to me like this is being reported by someone who wants to keep the program running, so they are trying to fud it up with implications that medical science will be harmed.
If the U.S. didn't get into wars all the time, then wouldn't that both save lives and cost less money?
I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned this, or if the amount is negligible with a 28 earth-day day, but launching from the poles would be harder than launching in the direction of the spin from the equator.
When I came over to the UK with travellers cheques and was cashing them for £50 notes, I had to fold them in half to fit them in. Even £20 notes get majorly frayed at the top.
Aussie money is great as well, but I disagree about British pounds.
If you have a high denomination note like £50, then first you have to unfold it a few times.
I understand they want to differentiate based on size, but the £5 note is their only note that will comfortably fit in my standard-sized wallet.
Saying that you are at a "total loss to understand" something is often a non-literal expression.
A kid shoots up a school and someone says that they are at a total loss to understand how it could have happened. Well, literally, that is crap, because in the U.S. it happens every other week and usually for the same reasons with the same kind of weapons. It becomes pretty easy to understand.
I think you are just seizing on a literary aspect of the article, rather than any substance. Just like a grammar or spelling nazi, but a little higher up the food chain, perhaps.
I mean this sincerely:
If you believe that you can make any kind of difference to the masses with a move like getting people to give up licenced popular culture due to unfair IP laws, then go for it; it's a good goal, but I think you might be understating the difficulty of converting even one person just a bit.
Do you have plans? An idea without a plan generally doesn't amount to much. How do you intend to achieve your goals? Warning friends and family that you won't accept the gifts you mentioned and then not accepting them is a good move, though you might piss people off if you don't accept a gift, which they will inevitably buy, despite your warning. If you want people to write to their politicians, perhaps you could come up with a template and host a site that contains in an easy to use form who the relevant politicians are for each area. Rather than suggesting that maybe people should meet up in Sydney at some time, specify a time that you will definitely be there and then seek commitments from others.
Like I said, it sounds like you could achieve some part of your goals, but are you actually going to try, or is it just steam?
You're a retard.
Having over-reaching laws like this allows the government to go after pretty much anyone because you get a few of these laws together and you just know that a person has broken, is breaking or will break a law. It becomes almost trivial to find grounds on which to put someone away or ruin their life.
People should not rely on the benevolence of governments when so much evidence from the past has shown that governments constantly try to increase their own power at the expense of civil liberties.
So, let me re-interate. You're a retard and I am sick of optimistic dolts like you.
But we were kids when we could buy them.
Cerebral games like Civilization came out around 15 years ago. Sim City about the same.
The point and click adventures of the Sierra genre (yes, genre) were mostly in the late 80s to early 90s.
Hell, even the most cerebral of games, Digger and AlleyCat, are from the mid 80s. OK, maaybe these ones aren't quite as cerebral, but it does require strategy to get the food from all the bowls on a hard level or figuring out which hole in the swiss chees the mouse would come out of, so there!
Atari, Sega, Infocom... Yep, we've noticed...
The same can be said of just about any industry though. Just look at video card manufacturers. Hell, nobody was ever going to topple 3dfx. And computer manufacturers: look at the remnants of SGI, DEC, Amstrad, Atari (again), Commodore (Amiga), BBC, Honeybee, Sinclair... Damn, I shouldn't have started
There might be less overall energy use, but there will be a much higher energy use in the small part of the motherboard in which the processor resides.
Heat sinks don't cover the whole motherboard, just the hottest parts, so putting two devices that each normally need heat sinks into one small area implies to me that the OP is right. There will have to be some kick-arse cooling to stop it from melting.
Especially when you take into account that by the time they get anything out to market, the CPU that will be part of the package will have at least 4 cores of its own.
Yep, I'm with you there.
I thought I'd give it a go, because it's an interesting idea and all, but it just didn't do anything for me. I'm guessing that it would if I dedicated the time and really made it my second life, but I have a good enough first life.
At some point in the not-too-distant future, I'm guessing some sort of VR interface will be developed for Second Life, and the graphics will mature, if not in this, then in Third Life®.
The trick is being in the system before the hordes. One of the things I read about Second Life before signing up is that all the land is taken. I don't particularly want to get another life where I would have to struggle for years to be a land-owner. It just doesn't seem like it would be that fun when only the early users really get good gear.
Anyways...
That's probably because there is NBA '07 and NBA 2k7 listed as separate items, which I would hope are the same. Otherwise, that is a pretty strange strategy for naming sequels.
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Actually, I disagree with myself.
I think the copyright ownership is the biggest issue, and as the players in SL own the copyright and are allowed to sell the stuff, according to the terms of use, then eBay has done the right thing by not making it a blanket ban.
My opinion is subject to change again, however, if eBay bans another "game's" items from being sold if the same terms of use are used.
But the point of the de-listing was surely not to exclude game items, so much as to exclude items that are not real.
This itself is a grey area anyway, because there are plenty of people selling data without even burning to a CD.
I would have thought that a decent rule (from their perspective) is no data that doesn't exist on a device which the seller controls can be sold. This would also exclude Second Life, I would think, so it leads me towards believing that this has been done specifically to promote Second Life relative to other online environments.
I remember about 3 or 4 years ago reading how they are always putting in so many computers and that they had so many all racked up that it would have been more effort than it was worth to locate and replace the dead ones so they just leave them on the racks, because it works out cheaper.
Doesn't sound like kidnapping to me. "Hey kid, you wanna come play video games for a few years." "Sure, thanks mister"
Yeah, like scriptaculous, yahoo and a few other players already do.
It's great and all, but not the only thing out there
There is no fucking obscenity on message boards.
What kind of cunts out there think there's fucking obscenity on the net?
What a bunch of donkey-raping shit-eaters!
What the fuck is the matter with the U.S. government's retarded-puppy-raping legislators?
Obscenity on the internet... Sometimes, I tell you... Jesus baby-fucking Christ that's preposterous...
Sounds to me like this is being reported by someone who wants to keep the program running, so they are trying to fud it up with implications that medical science will be harmed.
If the U.S. didn't get into wars all the time, then wouldn't that both save lives and cost less money?
I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned this, or if the amount is negligible with a 28 earth-day day, but launching from the poles would be harder than launching in the direction of the spin from the equator.
When I came over to the UK with travellers cheques and was cashing them for £50 notes, I had to fold them in half to fit them in. Even £20 notes get majorly frayed at the top.
Mine holds a wad of £50 notes quite easily. Where do you live?
Raised bumps will be too easy to forge with the aim of tricking blind people as people with full vision will ignore the bumps.
Aussie money is great as well, but I disagree about British pounds.
If you have a high denomination note like £50, then first you have to unfold it a few times.
I understand they want to differentiate based on size, but the £5 note is their only note that will comfortably fit in my standard-sized wallet.
Wait until the crash
You were meant to say something like "welcome our new copyright-wielding overlords"
Except Costello supports a republic.
Saying that you are at a "total loss to understand" something is often a non-literal expression.
A kid shoots up a school and someone says that they are at a total loss to understand how it could have happened. Well, literally, that is crap, because in the U.S. it happens every other week and usually for the same reasons with the same kind of weapons. It becomes pretty easy to understand.
I think you are just seizing on a literary aspect of the article, rather than any substance. Just like a grammar or spelling nazi, but a little higher up the food chain, perhaps.
Nah, we're mostly immagents.
I mean this sincerely:
If you believe that you can make any kind of difference to the masses with a move like getting people to give up licenced popular culture due to unfair IP laws, then go for it; it's a good goal, but I think you might be understating the difficulty of converting even one person just a bit.
Do you have plans? An idea without a plan generally doesn't amount to much. How do you intend to achieve your goals? Warning friends and family that you won't accept the gifts you mentioned and then not accepting them is a good move, though you might piss people off if you don't accept a gift, which they will inevitably buy, despite your warning. If you want people to write to their politicians, perhaps you could come up with a template and host a site that contains in an easy to use form who the relevant politicians are for each area. Rather than suggesting that maybe people should meet up in Sydney at some time, specify a time that you will definitely be there and then seek commitments from others.
Like I said, it sounds like you could achieve some part of your goals, but are you actually going to try, or is it just steam?
You're a retard.
Having over-reaching laws like this allows the government to go after pretty much anyone because you get a few of these laws together and you just know that a person has broken, is breaking or will break a law.
It becomes almost trivial to find grounds on which to put someone away or ruin their life.
People should not rely on the benevolence of governments when so much evidence from the past has shown that governments constantly try to increase their own power at the expense of civil liberties.
So, let me re-interate. You're a retard and I am sick of optimistic dolts like you.
Normally on slashdot, there are thought-provoking topics that trigger much debate and such, but it's all pretty clear in this case.
But we were kids when we could buy them.
Cerebral games like Civilization came out around 15 years ago. Sim City about the same.
The point and click adventures of the Sierra genre (yes, genre) were mostly in the late 80s to early 90s.
Hell, even the most cerebral of games, Digger and AlleyCat, are from the mid 80s. OK, maaybe these ones aren't quite as cerebral, but it does require strategy to get the food from all the bowls on a hard level or figuring out which hole in the swiss chees the mouse would come out of, so there!
Atari, Sega, Infocom... Yep, we've noticed...
The same can be said of just about any industry though. Just look at video card manufacturers. Hell, nobody was ever going to topple 3dfx.
And computer manufacturers: look at the remnants of SGI, DEC, Amstrad, Atari (again), Commodore (Amiga), BBC, Honeybee, Sinclair... Damn, I shouldn't have started
There might be less overall energy use, but there will be a much higher energy use in the small part of the motherboard in which the processor resides.
Heat sinks don't cover the whole motherboard, just the hottest parts, so putting two devices that each normally need heat sinks into one small area implies to me that the OP is right. There will have to be some kick-arse cooling to stop it from melting.
Especially when you take into account that by the time they get anything out to market, the CPU that will be part of the package will have at least 4 cores of its own.
Yep, I'm with you there.
I thought I'd give it a go, because it's an interesting idea and all, but it just didn't do anything for me. I'm guessing that it would if I dedicated the time and really made it my second life, but I have a good enough first life.
At some point in the not-too-distant future, I'm guessing some sort of VR interface will be developed for Second Life, and the graphics will mature, if not in this, then in Third Life®.
The trick is being in the system before the hordes. One of the things I read about Second Life before signing up is that all the land is taken. I don't particularly want to get another life where I would have to struggle for years to be a land-owner. It just doesn't seem like it would be that fun when only the early users really get good gear. Anyways...
That's probably because there is NBA '07 and NBA 2k7 listed as separate items, which I would hope are the same. Otherwise, that is a pretty strange strategy for naming sequels.