Part of creating a website is drawing an area on my screen and start working within it.
There's your problem right there. This is a print mentality, not a web one. As a designer, you should be designing sites that can "bend" into a variety of screen resolutions and platforms, becuase that is your canvas.
But heck, I even like to use tables instead of div, just because I try to minimize the risk.
The risk of what? Producing something of quality? Designing on the web has come a long way since 1997. If you don't stay up to speed in this industry, you will fast become irrelevant. CSS has already solved some of the more common issues on the web - including the one in questions, as well as your screen size issue. It's time for "designers" like yourself to get with the program already.
If you have a big audience on cells or pda's, you may want to optimize it a little more, doing things like putting a menu right at the top of the page, lot's of "back to tops", etc.
Once again, you won't be doing any of this without standards.
For example, looking at what HTML ids and classes are most common, and at how many sites validate (and yes, we know that we're not leading the way in terms of validation).
There are more <o:p> elements (from Microsoft Office) on the Web than there are <h6> elements.
If someone can explain why so many pages would use a <table> tag and then not put any cells in it, please let us know.
Web "professionals" (and I am one of that group) have got a long, long, long way to go before we're actually taken seriously, it seems, as coders.
For example, looking at what HTML ids and classes are most common, and at how many sites validate (and yes, we know that we're not leading the way in terms of validation).
There are more elements (from Microsoft Office) on the Web than there are elements.
If someone can explain why so many pages would use a tag and then not put any cells in it, please let us know.
Web "professionals" (and I am one of that group) have got a long, long, long way to go before we're actually taken seriously, it seems, as coders.
Normally I don't post these kinds of comments, but you need it.
Your (possessive):: I like your bike, I stole your imaginary girlfriend.
You're (contraction of two words, you & are):: You're a Microsoft Administrator. You're fine. (which in itself is incorrect, but I won't get into that)
If you can take out the "your" and replace it with "you are"; and the sentence still makes sense, you've spelt it incorrectly.
You made that error so many times I stopped reading after the third paragraph. If English is not your first language, lesson learned.
If it is... good great God learn to spell. People like me (a project manager) look at bad spelling as a reflection of intelligence - a fitting appendix to the thread here as well.
Typos are excusable, ignorance of language is not.
If you designed your site PROPERLY with standards based development techniques, such as seperating content from presentation, not using tables for layout etc. you wouldn't be asking this question.
Using CSS, you simply link in your stylesheets using:
This solves all your issues. Why? Because you can specify the media device that you wish to apply the style for, so, use "print" and specifiy your print styles, etc.
IE can be handled nicely by using conditional comments to link to seperate stylesheets.
All old browsers will get usable, unstyled content. (Which will proabably load faster for them at any rate)
In 2006, you should not call yourself a web developer unless you know these things. Let's get with it already.
Just because people don't bother to complain because you're too much of an ass to help them get their work done (seriously, reinstalling windows every night after you begged to get a box that can read a fricken excel document?) doesn't mean they don't have complaints/problems.
Who in their right mind does any type of backup in the middle of the day?
Good grief... why don't you write a big letter to the VP and include it with you resignation... your organization sounds like a horrible place to work.
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Although I tried to RTFA, the orignial website is a mangled mess.
I believe Mr. Rahnema is looking for this page, however.
Mr. Rahnema, my invoice of $100 is in the mail.
thx!
And the rest of the design has to follow.
No, it most certainly does not. Visit those websites I linked to and learn. The web is not a paper medium.
Just because I think content+desgin for big screen internet does not translate well to content+design for handheld internet by merely using a script??
No, because you don't seem to realize that designing a site with standardized HTML/XHTML and CSS has nothing to do with "scripts".
"Designing" websites is a lot more that drawing pretty pictures.
I'm not interested in such a solution because it is not worth it.
Then you are a shitty web designer, and within 5 years will be out of a job, no matter how pretty you make things look.
Part of creating a website is drawing an area on my screen and start working within it.
There's your problem right there. This is a print mentality, not a web one. As a designer, you should be designing sites that can "bend" into a variety of screen resolutions and platforms, becuase that is your canvas.
But heck, I even like to use tables instead of div, just because I try to minimize the risk.
The risk of what? Producing something of quality? Designing on the web has come a long way since 1997. If you don't stay up to speed in this industry, you will fast become irrelevant. CSS has already solved some of the more common issues on the web - including the one in questions, as well as your screen size issue. It's time for "designers" like yourself to get with the program already.
Check out Zen Garden, CSS Vault and CSS Beauty for some more information
If you have a big audience on cells or pda's, you may want to optimize it a little more, doing things like putting a menu right at the top of the page, lot's of "back to tops", etc.
Once again, you won't be doing any of this without standards.
The question, for you, is not "where are they". Instead, you should be thinking about "they were there before, obviously. Where did they end up?
Here Dumbass.
I sure hope you are not old enough to vote. Stupidity like yours should have as little impact on society as possible.
This comming from someone who probably voted for Bush.
Don't worry, I'm not even a citizen of your fucked up country.
Canada does not have nuclear subs, powered or armed.
We have four desiel-electric subs bought from UK cold war surplus that are of questionable serviceability.
That's the biggest bunch of brainwashed bullshit I've ever heard. No kidding you post as an AC, I wouldn't want to put my name to that either.
So Genius, WHERE ARE THEY??
That won't stand up in court, and the government knows it. There has already been talk in some circles of removing the levy.
not really.
"Year" is a measurment of time, which, Einstein aside is essentially static.
Unless of course your notion of seconds changes as well.
Again, properly formatted this time:
For example, looking at what HTML ids and classes are most common, and at how many sites validate (and yes, we know that we're not leading the way in terms of validation).
There are more <o:p> elements (from Microsoft Office) on the Web than there are <h6> elements.
If someone can explain why so many pages would use a <table> tag and then not put any cells in it, please let us know.
Web "professionals" (and I am one of that group) have got a long, long, long way to go before we're actually taken seriously, it seems, as coders.
Some choice tidbits FTA:
For example, looking at what HTML ids and classes are most common, and at how many sites validate (and yes, we know that we're not leading the way in terms of validation).
There are more elements (from Microsoft Office) on the Web than there are elements.
If someone can explain why so many pages would use a tag and then not put any cells in it, please let us know.
Web "professionals" (and I am one of that group) have got a long, long, long way to go before we're actually taken seriously, it seems, as coders.
Actually, Check that. I don't even like "You're doing fine."
It Seems just as sloppy as the orignal.
"You're fine." is not a sentence. "You're doing fine." would be a proper sentence.
Normally I don't post these kinds of comments, but you need it.
:: I like your bike, I stole your imaginary girlfriend.
:: You're a Microsoft Administrator. You're fine. (which in itself is incorrect, but I won't get into that)
Your (possessive)
You're (contraction of two words, you & are)
If you can take out the "your" and replace it with "you are"; and the sentence still makes sense, you've spelt it incorrectly.
You made that error so many times I stopped reading after the third paragraph. If English is not your first language, lesson learned.
If it is... good great God learn to spell. People like me (a project manager) look at bad spelling as a reflection of intelligence - a fitting appendix to the thread here as well.
Typos are excusable, ignorance of language is not.
Using CSS, you simply link in your stylesheets using:This solves all your issues. Why? Because you can specify the media device that you wish to apply the style for, so, use "print" and specifiy your print styles, etc.
IE can be handled nicely by using conditional comments to link to seperate stylesheets.
All old browsers will get usable, unstyled content. (Which will proabably load faster for them at any rate)
In 2006, you should not call yourself a web developer unless you know these things. Let's get with it already.
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They didn't "blow up" anything.
All they did was fly in behind it.
and you won't have many problems or complaints
Just because people don't bother to complain because you're too much of an ass to help them get their work done (seriously, reinstalling windows every night after you begged to get a box that can read a fricken excel document?) doesn't mean they don't have complaints/problems.
It just means you're an ass.
Who in their right mind does any type of backup in the middle of the day?
Good grief... why don't you write a big letter to the VP and include it with you resignation... your organization sounds like a horrible place to work.
if you had not recently installed a copy of XP...
Having an XP sp2 disk saves about 2 hours per install vs. having a plain old XP disk.
...it's played in seemingly neverending, all encompassing, life sucking fashion by these people called "loosers".
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XP already has a firewall... how many do you want?
Because Opera sucks?