And your evidence for that is? Historically, that entire region has been about either Muslims persecuting non Muslims (Christians, Yazidis, et al), Arab Muslims persecuting non Arabs - Muslim or not - like Kurds, Sunnis persecuting Shia wherever they are in the majority (like Saudi Arabia), Shia persecuting Sunnis wherever they are in the majority (like Iraq, Iran) and so on. The people of Raqqah are no different. They threw their lot in w/ ISIS b'cos like most of their Sunni compatriots, they can't stand the idea of an Alewite regime in Damascus. Incidentally, the converse is true as well - the Alawites know that if the Sunnis came to power, the Alawites would be massacred
Do you honestly think that Ahmed the grocer and Alia the farmer's wife and the thousands of their colleagues leading simple lives have had any influence on these events? Do they really deserve to be `collateral damage' for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
What you're proposing is genocide. I have no idea what PCMC sensibilities are, but yes, I'm all in favour of having a major cow over that. And that's just based on ethics, there's also the point that levelling a city is a very effective way to create terrorists.
It's called war. Genocide would be if a city w/ only civilians but no fighters were to be massacred - something like the recent Syrian chemical weapons attack. But if in a city you have a mix of terrorists & civilians, you level it, and the civilians are collateral damage. Throughout history, innocent civilians have died in wars, which is why one tries not to have them in the first place. But if they are fought, the consequences have to be recognized - that innocent civilians are going to die in the process. Once they make an example of any place by levelling it, ISIS will realize that using human shields is useless, and they'll resort to other tactics. Thereby, ironically, such massacres would minimize future hostage situations where Jihad terrorists try to blackmail those Geneva convention complaint armies into not attacking them.
My, what a neat little theory you have for your blood thirst. You may want to look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... for people that had theories like yours, and what happened to them. Yes, it is war. That's why genocide is called a warcrime.
Everybody has a major cow over civilian casualties, despite the fact that only one side - ours - is concerned about that. But the people of Raqqah are not innocent bystanders: they are Sunni opponents of the Assad regime and support ISIS for that reason.
No, the vast majority of the people of Raqqah are just ordinary people that want to live a decent life, just like most everyone else all over the planet.
Levelling the city would be a good solution, but unpalatable to our PCMC sensibilities.
What you're proposing is genocide. I have no idea what PCMC sensibilities are, but yes, I'm all in favour of having a major cow over that. And that's just based on ethics, there's also the point that levelling a city is a very effective way to create terrorists.
I agree, we shouldn't be supportive of meddling in elections just because it works in our favor. That means that Clinton, and a good chunk of the US intelligence agencies, should be stopped.
I've seen Hillary (?) Clinton seen accused of a lot of things, but this is a new one. I'm not going waste energy asking for proof, but what exactly is she supposed to have done this time?
"What you're doing damages the environment." is an argument, but not one that just means everybody should start forking out money left and right, in some kind of foolish notion that the problem will vanish if only enough dollars are thrown at it.
No, of course not, but sometimes forking out money does help solve the problem. Talking in generalities doesn't help very much.
I am not a member of the "Religious Reich", and I will shit on public education. Just browsing through the posts here, it is obvious that spelling, grammar, and reading comprehension are no longer a priority.
I strongly suspect you do not understand the point of the poster you're replying to. Hint: s/he's using 'shit on' in a different way than you do.
Not that hard.. the current crop of terrorists are all 2nd-3rd generation immigrants that have never shown any desire to adopt western values.
This is simply not true. If you look at the profiles of just about all recent attackers, never shown any desire to adopt western values is the exact opposite of their profiles. Even the 9/11 attackers did not match that profile at all.
It's very likely that the next generations of immigrants aren't going to do any better, especially since they can just move into the current Muslim dominated neighborhoods, and stay far from kuffar.
You were wrong about the attackers, you are now generalising without any proof or support from reality to the entire immigrant population, and you're extrapolating without any proof to future generations. In other words, you're talking nonsense again.
And that's not even counting IS militants among the immigrants.
There are so few IS militants among the immigrants that German neo-nazis had to create fake ones for their planned false-flag operations. And that makes sense, if you think about it. Which group are these immigrants fleeing from? Hint: the group has the letters IS in their name.
My point was that NO system is unbreakable. Its just the matter of price.
... except that there are unbreakable systems. Or at least systems that at the moment are unbreakable. A properly generated and used one-time pad is a trivial example.
Anything that results in lawsuits whenever people get offended cannot be a good thing.
Possibly, but I am always amazed that in the US it is possible to publish the most vile and manipulative lies without any consequences. That cannot be a good thing either.
The alt-right freakout here at slashdot is quite entertaining (France is doooooomed!!!!!!1! Dooooooomed!! I tell you! Sure guys, just relax and wait until the nice man in the white coat arrives with your medicines), but it also seems that the Macron campaign had an entertaining trick up their sleeves:
part of the Macron campaign strategy against Fancy Bear (also known as Pawn Storm and Apt28) was to sign on to the phishing pages and plant bogus information.
“You can flood these [phishing] addresses with multiple passwords and log-ins, true ones, false ones, so the people behind them use up a lot of time trying to figure them out,” Mounir Mahjoubi, the head of Macron’s digital team, told The Daily Beast for its earlier article on this subject.
So far I have not been able to find this 'earlier article on the subject', or any other confirmation, but it makes sense as a strategy. Let's see if this rumour turns out to be true.
If you want to start a reasoned discussion about the pros and cons of the use of force of the previous administration you are welcome, but you will have to do more than just spout some immature insults. And you'll also have to be prepared for comparisons with the words and actions of the current administration on this subject.
She was a good candidate because she would have been a sane and experienced captain of the US Uncle Sam that at least would make a decent attempt to steer that ship into safe and prosperous waters. Just like No Drama Obama. Unfortunately that is not what the US electorate wants. They want entertainment and thrills. They sure got their wish with the current resident.
This is not even proof by intimidation, this is proof by meltdown.
Take a deep breath. Take ten more. Sit down. Think of cute kittens. Wait until your anger has left you.
Now, explain again. Why is it not news when the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for specious reasons removes data related to protecting the environment from its website?
You are seriously arguing that the fact that the EPA is now removing important data relevant to the protection of the environment is not news? Perhaps you're missing what the letters EPA stand for?
Ok then, to avoid triggering your allergy: The right conclusion is to tell wilfully ignorant people to STFU until they grow up and start taking the task of public discourse seriously.
The advantage of this phrasing is also that it covers not only people that are wilfully ignorant of climate change, but also of other important issues such as vaccination.
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Disregarding the fact that cucumbers are normally straight, people can't even get the myths right anymore.
Surely you mean "can't even get the myths straight anymore".
And your evidence for that is? Historically, that entire region has been about either Muslims persecuting non Muslims (Christians, Yazidis, et al), Arab Muslims persecuting non Arabs - Muslim or not - like Kurds, Sunnis persecuting Shia wherever they are in the majority (like Saudi Arabia), Shia persecuting Sunnis wherever they are in the majority (like Iraq, Iran) and so on. The people of Raqqah are no different. They threw their lot in w/ ISIS b'cos like most of their Sunni compatriots, they can't stand the idea of an Alewite regime in Damascus. Incidentally, the converse is true as well - the Alawites know that if the Sunnis came to power, the Alawites would be massacred
Do you honestly think that Ahmed the grocer and Alia the farmer's wife and the thousands of their colleagues leading simple lives have had any influence on these events? Do they really deserve to be `collateral damage' for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
What you're proposing is genocide. I have no idea what PCMC sensibilities are, but yes, I'm all in favour of having a major cow over that. And that's just based on ethics, there's also the point that levelling a city is a very effective way to create terrorists.
It's called war. Genocide would be if a city w/ only civilians but no fighters were to be massacred - something like the recent Syrian chemical weapons attack. But if in a city you have a mix of terrorists & civilians, you level it, and the civilians are collateral damage. Throughout history, innocent civilians have died in wars, which is why one tries not to have them in the first place. But if they are fought, the consequences have to be recognized - that innocent civilians are going to die in the process. Once they make an example of any place by levelling it, ISIS will realize that using human shields is useless, and they'll resort to other tactics. Thereby, ironically, such massacres would minimize future hostage situations where Jihad terrorists try to blackmail those Geneva convention complaint armies into not attacking them.
My, what a neat little theory you have for your blood thirst. You may want to look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... for people that had theories like yours, and what happened to them. Yes, it is war. That's why genocide is called a warcrime.
Everybody has a major cow over civilian casualties, despite the fact that only one side - ours - is concerned about that. But the people of Raqqah are not innocent bystanders: they are Sunni opponents of the Assad regime and support ISIS for that reason.
No, the vast majority of the people of Raqqah are just ordinary people that want to live a decent life, just like most everyone else all over the planet.
Levelling the city would be a good solution, but unpalatable to our PCMC sensibilities.
What you're proposing is genocide. I have no idea what PCMC sensibilities are, but yes, I'm all in favour of having a major cow over that. And that's just based on ethics, there's also the point that levelling a city is a very effective way to create terrorists.
I agree, we shouldn't be supportive of meddling in elections just because it works in our favor. That means that Clinton, and a good chunk of the US intelligence agencies, should be stopped.
I've seen Hillary (?) Clinton seen accused of a lot of things, but this is a new one. I'm not going waste energy asking for proof, but what exactly is she supposed to have done this time?
"What you're doing damages the environment." is an argument, but not one that just means everybody should start forking out money left and right, in some kind of foolish notion that the problem will vanish if only enough dollars are thrown at it.
No, of course not, but sometimes forking out money does help solve the problem. Talking in generalities doesn't help very much.
How about the last 10000 year? See https://xkcd.com/1732/.
Unless a switch to "Green energy" makes economic sense, it doesn't make any sense.
What? 'What you're doing damages the environment' is now not an argument at all?
Let's remember that Apple is legally obligated only to do things which are in the interest of its shareholders.
Mitigating global warning is in the interest of its shareholders. There, sorted. No need for complicated CT.
Only on public roads.
Which is about 99% of car use, so this is just being pedantic for the sake of deflection.
I am not a member of the "Religious Reich", and I will shit on public education. Just browsing through the posts here, it is obvious that spelling, grammar, and reading comprehension are no longer a priority.
I strongly suspect you do not understand the point of the poster you're replying to. Hint: s/he's using 'shit on' in a different way than you do.
... Big Lie ...
At this point calling the whole affair a Big Lie is no better than putting your fingers in your ears and singing LaLaLa.
No one is preventing you from doing so.
There will be consequences of doing so.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from the consequences of your speech.
By that logic there is freedom of murder as well.
Not that hard.. the current crop of terrorists are all 2nd-3rd generation immigrants that have never shown any desire to adopt western values.
This is simply not true. If you look at the profiles of just about all recent attackers, never shown any desire to adopt western values is the exact opposite of their profiles. Even the 9/11 attackers did not match that profile at all.
It's very likely that the next generations of immigrants aren't going to do any better, especially since they can just move into the current Muslim dominated neighborhoods, and stay far from kuffar.
You were wrong about the attackers, you are now generalising without any proof or support from reality to the entire immigrant population, and you're extrapolating without any proof to future generations. In other words, you're talking nonsense again.
And that's not even counting IS militants among the immigrants.
There are so few IS militants among the immigrants that German neo-nazis had to create fake ones for their planned false-flag operations. And that makes sense, if you think about it. Which group are these immigrants fleeing from? Hint: the group has the letters IS in their name.
The government should have no say in the numbers of police. It should be decided by the market.
As a joke I think it is pretty clever, but the problem is I am not 100% sure you are joking.
My point was that NO system is unbreakable. Its just the matter of price.
... except that there are unbreakable systems. Or at least systems that at the moment are unbreakable. A properly generated and used one-time pad is a trivial example.
Anything that results in lawsuits whenever people get offended cannot be a good thing.
Possibly, but I am always amazed that in the US it is possible to publish the most vile and manipulative lies without any consequences. That cannot be a good thing either.
... I haven't stepped outside yet, but in this world the sky is probably green.
Cool. Looks like the number of rational folks out there is up to 2 out of 10 now.
That sounds like that joke about a guy listening to the radio in his car:
Announcer: Warning: there is a car going the wrong way on the I666, near exit 42.
Driver: One car? I see dozens of them.
The alt-right freakout here at slashdot is quite entertaining (France is doooooomed!!!!!!1! Dooooooomed!! I tell you! Sure guys, just relax and wait until the nice man in the white coat arrives with your medicines), but it also seems that the Macron campaign had an entertaining trick up their sleeves:
part of the Macron campaign strategy against Fancy Bear (also known as Pawn Storm and Apt28) was to sign on to the phishing pages and plant bogus information. “You can flood these [phishing] addresses with multiple passwords and log-ins, true ones, false ones, so the people behind them use up a lot of time trying to figure them out,” Mounir Mahjoubi, the head of Macron’s digital team, told The Daily Beast for its earlier article on this subject.
So far I have not been able to find this 'earlier article on the subject', or any other confirmation, but it makes sense as a strategy. Let's see if this rumour turns out to be true.
If you want to start a reasoned discussion about the pros and cons of the use of force of the previous administration you are welcome, but you will have to do more than just spout some immature insults. And you'll also have to be prepared for comparisons with the words and actions of the current administration on this subject.
She was a good candidate because she would have been a sane and experienced captain of the US Uncle Sam that at least would make a decent attempt to steer that ship into safe and prosperous waters. Just like No Drama Obama. Unfortunately that is not what the US electorate wants. They want entertainment and thrills. They sure got their wish with the current resident.
This is not even proof by intimidation, this is proof by meltdown.
Take a deep breath. Take ten more. Sit down. Think of cute kittens. Wait until your anger has left you.
Now, explain again. Why is it not news when the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for specious reasons removes data related to protecting the environment from its website?
You are seriously arguing that the fact that the EPA is now removing important data relevant to the protection of the environment is not news? Perhaps you're missing what the letters EPA stand for?
Ok then, to avoid triggering your allergy: The right conclusion is to tell wilfully ignorant people to STFU until they grow up and start taking the task of public discourse seriously.
The advantage of this phrasing is also that it covers not only people that are wilfully ignorant of climate change, but also of other important issues such as vaccination.
I must assume that the phrase 'the victim's motive' in the summary should be 'the terrorist's motive'.