What if I told you they have not been found to cause colony collapse disorder (CCD) but antifungals are that also take out the immune system leaving to the host prone to infection it could normally fend off.
It's not just the bees, this is happening to amphibians, bats, coral and in some cases man. Next time somebody tells you a gas or heat is killing corals... go look up the necropsy. No it is not, it's the damn antifungals.
So you don't dispute sea rise has been negative for about six years?
That's a start I guess.
The rest of your argument pretty much doesn't matter after that now does it? You haven't found fault with either the data or the logic here, and merely sought clarification of one part you don't understand.
So in case you don't resistant quite what what you're looking at, here goes.
Because nominal sea was was unchanged for about 8000 years, never went up, that was an error, and six years ago flipped when ice began growing again.
Perhaps I explained that badly in my post. Please allow me to try again.
If you look at the longer term map you can see the sea rise for the past 8000 years was pretty constant. Then, six years ago it began falling. I did not try to make a graph like that with only six years but if you were t try the tool at nasa to get just the last 10 years it gives you this, at least it did with my browser, why don't you try it?
Now, there were spurious reports of "sea rise" in Miami but not, only 50 miles away, in the Florida Keys it was not rising. This was found out to be because Miami was sinking, as was Beijing, by about four inches a year because the silly fucks pumped all the groundwater out. You know how nature abhors a vacuum.
Here's the long history of sea rise: http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u... Look around 8000 years back. See that? That's the 33,3 century nominal sea rise.
That stopped a few years ago.
Now, if you look at the same time period in the NSIDC graph is ice, you'll see there's a corresponding uptick in sea ice: http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Ok? So uptick in ice, seas fall. Got that now? Nore that carbon dioxide also flarlines 6 years ago.
2015 CO2 has flatlined. 13 March 2015 Data from the International Energy Agency (IEA) indicate that global emissions of carbon dioxide from the energy sector stalled in 2014, marking the first time in 40 years in which there was a halt or reduction in emissions of the greenhouse gas that was not tied to an economic downturn. http://www.iea.org/newsroomand...
2016 CO2 flatlined for a second year in a row. "The IEA reports that for the second year in a row, the world economy has grown while energy-related CO2 emissionsremained flat." http://thinkprogress.org/clima...
2017 CO2 emissions remain flat for a third year. IEA finds CO2 emissions flat for third straight year even as global economy grew in 2016 17 March 2017. https://www.iea.org/newsroom/n...
Ice is up, not down at both poles, while the Arctic goes up and down a but the Antarctic only increases much to the amazement of the the alarmists. Total sea ice has never gone down and is increasing presently to the point the seas are falling while the media claims or sometimes hints they're rising. Sea level was actually never rising abnormally, it's been 33,3cm/century for about 15,000 years. The gasses are methane and food for the microflora of the new tundra. We are coming out of an ice age and of course you can find thawing bits, it's just that there's more freezing bits than thawing bits by a large margin.
So, the claims the "ice could be gone as early as 2015" (Gore 2009) are utterly specious; this really devalues the Nobel prize in my mind or his half of it anyway which is when he said this.
Anyway, the ice melt doesn't show up any graph. So let's look at the sat imagery NASA has at the pole.
Ok so it doesn't show up in NASA sat imagery either. What about maps? Isn't it cool how you can get the story from a piece of the url? "arctic-sea-ice-gains-can-be-seen-on-new-government-map-of-canada"
Anyway, Canada added ice to the marine navigation maps. The US doesn't have much arctic, Greenland has more I suspect, the rest Canada and Russia have. The Russians added ice to their maps too.
Looks like sea level was pretty constant for th last 8000 years. Now seas have been falling for about 6 years. If they were supposed to rise abnormally I can't see where.
Here's the article in Nature from a few years ago. They figured if all this methane was coming up there would be an increase in carbon in the soil but there wasn't and they wrote up why they found out why: it's food for the emergent fora and fungi. Which makes sense, the plans and carbon all frozen together, why WOULD you have one wuthoutthe other. You freaky, nature.
"Fungi pull carbon into northern forest soils Organisms living on tree roots do lion’s share of sequestering carbon
"But scientists have not understood where exactly trees put their carbon. The issue becomes important when researchers build computer simulations that track carbon cycling." https://www.sciencenews.org/ar...
"Small 'hot spot' responsible for producing the largest concentration of the greenhouse gas methane seen over the United States"
"Nasa set to investigate unexplained hotspot over the 'four corners' intersection in Southwest Small 'hot spot' responsible for producing the largest concentration of the greenhouse gas methane seen over the United States Area near the Four Corners intersection of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah covers 2,500 square miles Hotspot predates widespread fracking in the area "
Actually if you look at the math in this paper temperature anomalies of the 20th century were not in any way unusual fom temperature anomalies in the previous 8100 centuries:
Think about it, pick any two points on a line and you can show a positive, negative or zero slope and "prove" anything if you pick the two points correctly. For example using the noaa data post 2K you can show warming, cooling or no change *depending on what points you pick*. (The NOAA has a graphing calculator you can play with to prove this to yourself - if you can prove your opponents point with this tool as well as yours maybe the methodology was meant for demonstration to the public and not mathematical rigor, eh?
The fact they play fast and loose with the math is not confidence inspiring. Recall the statement "each of the past 10 years has been the hottest on record" - the president has actually said this (and you'll note has never used the word "pollution") but the numbers clearly show that 1989 was the hottest year and each year from 200o to 2009 was colder than the previous one. A clear decadal cooling period but still hot years this making the statement true, despite the fact it got cooler each year not warmer as they tried to infer. That's not science, that's marketing. If you have to lie about it, it's probably not true or you wouldn't need to lie you's just explain the facts. The facts are it stopped warming and we were wrong about CO2. Overall it has a positive effect, not negative and it created by an increase in temperature not vice versa. Only 4 billion years of fossils show this, argue with CERN and NASA if you disagree. .
Here's ALL the temperature data all 4.5 billion years of it, so there's zero chance of cherry picking. The other point that kills the agw argument is there's no discernable human signature of warming in the thermal record. If you think there is, please point it out - it will be recognizable as a sharper slope than has ever occurred in the thermal record before.
Articles keep saying "global warming" as if it were true. It's never actually been proved true, that was a hypothesis based on some incomplete models and now have 75% error between predicted and measured temperature. Even when CO2 ose temperature declined (2000-2009) for a decade, every year being colder than the previous despite CO2 rising sharply:
In a new interview with MSNBC he says: '"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.' https://web.archive.org/web/20...
Nah it's pretty mundane and only tells you about their stuff, how it does something complicated and patentable with something expressed by 30% of cancers. Big deal.
In 2007, Potter, Burke et al found CYP1B1 in nearly 100% of cancers.
Fitst they found Resveratrol ("red wine") killed cells with these markers (which turn the Resveratrol into potential which kills only that cell) but it wasn't strong enough to work on humans. Next they found the Salvestrol family of molecules.
Have a look for yourself how well that panned out.
"Environment Canada has released its list of top weather stories over the past year, and the long winter chill took top spot."
The Great Lakes attained 92 per cent ice coverage for the first time in 35 years, sea ice was back on the East Coast and ice in the Gulf of St. Lawrence was its thickest in 25 years."
Frost in late may/early June? Welcome to Canada, eh?
Plus, you know, the Arctic sea ice has grown so much - because it's unseasonabley cold and hs been for a decade according to the NOAA - that we have to redraw the maps becvause of eht INCREASE IN ARCTIC SEA ICE. There's more of it now than when "global warming" started.
I'd have to say, as a Canadian living in Canada you don't see a lot of global warming here. More like the next ice age.
One scientist who predicted this in 2008 had his work vetted by CERN and NASA and botttom line: 27 more years of this cold then it'll warm again.
Look at the number of temperature records set for cold and hot worldwide. I believe that explains why they're so desperate to prove a hot climate record. It's because they keep trying to prove one, keep being corrected when it's pointed out it's not really a record in a field of so many cold weather records.
Can't say there's any sign of warming in Canada. The current Indian Summer, a first in a decade is not a sign the planet is warming, Sparky.
It's a 300 year old one of many branches of medicine. From that school came vaccines, ergot, caffein and many more.
Google homeopathic cocoa and click images.
"Homeopathic" is a Latin word and it has a very very specific technical meaning. Do the above search and ask yourself how does it differ from an Apple?
If you don't feel that's correct please alter Wikpedia and they'll explain it to you.
This is from the medical industry's history of vaccination, this is not from any homeopathic sources, so you just disagreed with vaccine stuff.
You did this because you don't actually know a fucking thing about the subject you're attempting to discuss with somebody who has studied it probably for longer than you've been alive.
Always check, you may not be right ad in a post Internet ra there is no excuse for this ignorance.
Number of people killed by the medical system. Well, that's awkward, the medical system itself if the third leading cause of death in the United States today.
Examining the actual evidence on all sides is appropriate at this juncture.
The medical system third-leading cause of death in the United States. Starfield B (July 2000). "Is US health really the best in the world?". JAMA 284 (4): 483–5. doi:10.1001/jama.284.4.483. PMID 10904513.
Ioannidis JPA (2005) Why Most Published Research Findings Are False. PLoS Med 2(8): e124. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 http://journals.plos.org/plosm...
Pharmecutical companies write their own "clinical reports", then bribe doctors to put their names on them. http://www.guardian.co.uk/soci...
Such "ghostwriting" is not uncommon at all. Lacasse JR, Leo J (2010) Ghostwriting at Elite Academic Medical Centers in the United States. PLoS Med 7(2): e1000230. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.1000230 http://www.plosmedicine.org/ar...
Vaccines came from the homeopathic school, see Harris et al re 1720.
Google homeopathic cocao, click images. Notice the homeopathic label? An apple you eat, cocoa you dilute. It's a technical term not a political ideology. Commercial speech has altered the meaning. Phrases such as "a homeopathic dose of barbiturates" for example are still in common use in medicine today.
The school of homeopathy was the 1700s alchemists way of experimenting. Mercury killed you but tiny amounts cures syphilis. We get digitalis opium ergot and caffeine for the homeopathic school (See Harris).
Any comprehensive book on the history of medicine will explain this.
Speaking of flu, it still kills ten 911's worth of Americans every season and none at all needs to die. Flu actually appears to be curable and people have been brought back from the dead with powerful native american medicine. That we put through a gas chromatograph and found ascorbate.
Here's how it happened.
In 1931 pauling publishes his thesis on the hydrogen bond and by 33 lemania had not only merged with omega but ascorbate was identified as the killer of Jacques Cartier's (Cousteau? Not the scuba one the other guy I always get those confused, nice man, avid fisherman) crew, or rather the lack of it and we had a cure for scurvy now. 500 years this had dogged so it was tried on everything and worked on so many things doctors in the day, as Klenner wrote, would tell their nurse to inject ascorbate then begin diagnosis after a man with an insect sting allergy nearly died because he didn't get an injection fast enough - put the electrons back quick enough and anaphylactic shock abates)
Fifteen years prior, Klenner's family had been spared from the 1914 Spanish influenza when everybody around was dying by the herb boneset. He wrote in 1974 near his death:
"Ancient History and Homespun Vitamin C Therapies
Folklore of past civilizations report that for every disease afflicting man there is an herb or its equivalent that will effect a cure. In Puerto Rico the story has long been told "that to have the health tree Acerola in one's back yard would keep colds out of the front door." 1 The ascorbic acid content of this cherry-like fruit is thirty times that found in oranges. In Pennsylvania, U.S.A., it was, and for many still is, Boneset, scientifically called Eupatorium perfoliatum 2. Although it is now rarely prescribed by physicians, Boneset was the most commonly used medicinal plant of eastern United States. Most farmsteads had a bundle of dried Boneset in the attic or woodshed from which a most bitter tea would he meted out to the unfortunate victim of a cold or fever. Having lived in that section of the country we qualified many times for this particular drink. The Flu of 1918 stands out very forcefully in that the Klenners survived when scores about us were dying. Although bitter it was curative and most of the time the cure was overnight. Several years ago my curiosity led me to assay this "herbal medicine" and to my surprise and delight I found that we had been taking from ten to thirty grams of natural vitamin C at one time. Even then it was given by body weight. Children one cupful; adults two to three cupfuls. Cups those days held eight ounces. Twentieth century man seemingly forgets that his ancestors made crude drugs from various plants and roots, and that these decoctions, infusions, juices, powders, pills and ointments served his purpose. Elegant pharmacy has only made the forms and shapes more acceptable.
Early specifications, action and dosages for administrations.
To understand the chemical behavior of ascorbic acid in human pathology, one must go beyond its present academic status either as a factor essential for life or as a substance necessary to prevent scurvy. This knowledge is elementary. Listen to what appeared in Food and Life Yearbook 1939, U.S. Department of Agriculture: 3. In fact even when there is not a single outward symptom of trouble, a person may be in a state of vitamin C deficiency more dangerous than scurvy itself. " http://scarc.library.oregonsta... (Paling in a 1953 painting. Those molecules spell out "Hello Sweetie" in old Gallifreyan. Good trick BBC.)
"Klenner's paper (Klenner FR. The treatment of poliomyelitis and other virus diseases with vitamin C. J. South. Med. and Surg., 111:210-214, 1949.) on curing 60 cases of polio in the epidemic of 1948 should have changed the way infectious diseases were treated but it did not." - Robert Cathcart
"should have changed the way infectious diseases were treated but it did not." - keep thinking about that.
Beginning in the 1930s we began using IV ascorbate to relieve oxidative s
Homeopathy began in the 1720s upon the accidental discovery that milkmaids who get cowpox on their hands never get smallpox. The Homeopathic school assumed this met their criteria for "like protects against like" and from the homeopathic school we got immunization technology in 1720. Saucy wenches too. Woohoo.
Of The things that came from the school of homeopathy unacknowledged are digitalis, opium and more. Dr. Harris coulter MD writes:
"In the second half of the century pharmacology came increasingly under the influence of the allopathic pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, but such medicines remained in common allopathic use even so — often with the note that the "mechanism of action" remains unknown. These would include: belladonna, coffee and caffeine for headaches, ergot for headache (the OTC drug Cafergot), coffee for hyperactivity in juveniles, lobelia and stramonium for asthma (the OTC drug Asthmador), nitroglycerine for angina pectoris, opium and its derivatives for headaches, botulinum poison for strabismus and other visual disturbances, platinum (Cisplatin, platinol) for testicular cancer, cobra toxin in heart conditions and eye diseases, krait venom in myasthenia gravis, rattlesnake venom in epilepsy, honey-bee venom in arthritis, gold salts in rheumatism, quinidine in heart conditions, etc. etc."
These then are homeopathic medicines that quietly got snookerd into "mainstream medicine" that then attacked the school they came from. As the first post said it's political not scientific.
That crap about the magic water and sugar pills, that came out of a crazy guy in france in the 1960s and is nothing to do with it really. Ignore that.
Harris has a long essay which I found rather fascinating, the above is an excerpt and if you're interested in the history of medicine and pharmacology it's very definitely worth a read.
Curiously too the "like works on like" idea is what saved us from ebola but in a post-Pauling world we know it was because a specific molecule disrupted the life cycle of the virus. Two different ways of saying the same thing it turns out. The molecule in question is in the African version o the virus but not the non-pathogenic Asian("Reston") strain. Actually there's 12 of them but never mind that.
So vaccines are homeopathic for one thing. And you want all homeopathic remedies banned? Ok, so digitals and ergot, you meant them right, and you want to ban vaccines? Why? Some of them actually work. Christ, not the flu shot though, that seems to have got stuck in reverse and now it adds to not subtracts from the death rate in seniors. Turns out the importance of those molecule Pauling was talking about turn out to be important, that' bat's beyond the scope of this quick note. The other Linus. he timelines got all messed up and there weren't supposed to e two of them now so that's a little odd too.
Flu vaccine paradox adds to public health debate 'Canadian problem' an example of odd effects of prior vaccination CBC News Posted: Jan 16, 2015 2:46 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 18, 2015 5:35 PM ET http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/...
(other articles on CBC around the same time show Canada fond the vaccine doesn't live up to the numbers the Americans sent with it. 23% is not what was promised)
Translation: the more shots you get the more likely you are to die. Since they've never been shown to actually save lives the takeaway point from that is your chances of surviving the flu are great if you don't get a flu shot. Actually they improve if the levels of enzymes, minerals and fatty acids permit the body to overcome the oxidative stress caused by the virus but we'll go into that later. As one immunologist so aptly put it, just take your vitamin and you should be ok and it does turn out to be a dec
What happens if they go to James Bay which is solid ice now and hear it wasn't 30 years ago, check with NASA and find there's more ice now than before?
When the disconnect between readily available physical evidence and the popular media is this vast you'd hope the educational system would side with science. Odds are these facts aren't in the curriculum (somebody should check).
As you ponder America augering into the ground consider the benefits of being truthful with children. The left bought black science guy and white science guy to brainwash children and Murdoch just bought NatGeo now he's figured it out, reasoning those ads^H^H^Hfacts last 30 years in dentists and doctors offices.
I thought America was all about truth and liberty? Not commercial propaganda and oppression of free thought.
There's two fundamentals flaws with that idea. First recheck your gas physics and chemistry; Mars is not earth. Second our first foray into space and you want to make it radio active. Good god man that's barbaric.
You don't want to heat the whole planet anyway, that's wasteful and how does any of us get to decide what happens to an entire world, any world?
Nah, forget that it's a dopey idea.
Move a billion gallons of water to crater, put a dome over it and float residences on water. There's reasons you don't want to live on land there if you think about it long enough.
Let's talk about how you haven't checkout out any of the claims. Your fallacy is: the argument from ignorance.
Why don't you go count how many times I've been wrong, son. if you can find one thing wrong I'll give you my house. If you can't find anything wrong you give me yours. We on here?
Bad idea. You're making the assumption these things work. The idea is well intentioned, "oh those poor people that have no access to modern western medicine".
Pity the poor Baku in the coastal forest of west Gabon who have a natural immunity and cure for Ebola (There are tribes of Indians in the amazon in Bolivia too. Why? Riddle me this: what does the soil in Bolivia have in common with Senegal? That's the key to Gabon. Wouldn't you rather that than 40 years of trying to make a vaccine that at it's best is 25-75% effective. Note the death rate outside africa. Other than 2 (3?) we didn't hear about, or heard about when their liver had turned to soup, nobody else died of a disease that's up to >99% fatal (WHO).
http://en.ird.fr/the-media-cen... I think its safe to say it's no longer a "possible" immunity. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and immunization technology from 1720 from the school of homeopathy ("like protects against like"; this remains unacknowledged but unverifiable) is one way but not the only way.
"29 January 2015 Last updated at 00:55 - We've now seen several cases that don't have any symptoms at all, asymptomatic cases," said Anavaj Sakuntabhai who suggested the virus might be mutating. http://www.bbc.com/news/health...
Giggle. The virus didn't change. People did.
British nurse cured of Ebola credits new drug - and strawberries "Back in Britain, the decision to try MIL 77 was not difficult. “I said ‘I have Ebola, so, yes, I’d rather have that than high-dose vitamin C,’” she said" "“I reckon I’ve had 10 punnets,” joked Corporal Anna Cross, who smiled nervously as she talked for the first time after her treatment at the Royal Free Hospital in north London." (10 punnets would be about equal to two 1000mg injections a day) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...
The Ebola outbreak in Liberia is over 9 May 2015 -- Today marks 42 days since the last confirmed case of Ebola in Liberia was safely buried — the period of time set by WHO to declare an outbreak over. WHO now considers Liberia free of Ebola transmission. http://apps.who.int/ebola/libe...
Ask yourself what might have happened on October 17 2014.
"Pity the tribes in South America and North America who never suffer the effects of influenza. "Folklore of past civilizations report that for every disease afflicting man there is an herb or its equivalent that will effect a cure. In Puerto Rico the story has long been told "that to have the health tree Acerola in one's back yard would keep colds out of the front door." 1 The ascorbic acid content of this cherry-like fruit is thirty times that found in oranges. In Pennsylvania, U.S.A., it was, and for many still is, Boneset, scientifically called Eupatorium perfoliatum 2. Although it is now rarely prescribed by physicians, Boneset was the most commonly used medicinal plant of eastern United States. Most farmsteads had a bundle of dried Boneset in the attic
More people believe in angels (46%) than warming (34%).
That's what you get for skipping stats to go out and get a smoke.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Huh? Why? Where is it?
Why are so many people trying to ban Neonics?
Look up when the patent expires on them: 2019.
What if I told you they have not been found to cause colony collapse disorder (CCD) but antifungals are that also take out the immune system leaving to the host prone to infection it could normally fend off.
It's not just the bees, this is happening to amphibians, bats, coral and in some cases man. Next time somebody tells you a gas or heat is killing corals... go look up the necropsy. No it is not, it's the damn antifungals.
http://www.plosone.org/article...
https://qz.com/107970/scientis...
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
http://www.gbr.qld.gov.au/docu... (July 2016)
http://www.gbr.qld.gov.au/docu... (May 2016)
Compare this with Cuba.
http://www.pri.org/stories/201...
So you don't dispute sea rise has been negative for about six years?
That's a start I guess.
The rest of your argument pretty much doesn't matter after that now does it? You haven't found fault with either the data or the logic here, and merely sought clarification of one part you don't understand.
So in case you don't resistant quite what what you're looking at, here goes.
Because nominal sea was was unchanged for about 8000 years, never went up, that was an error, and six years ago flipped when ice began growing again.
Perhaps I explained that badly in my post. Please allow me to try again.
If you look at the longer term map you can see the sea rise for the past 8000 years was pretty constant. Then, six years ago it began falling. I did not try to make a graph like that with only six years but if you were t try the tool at nasa to get just the last 10 years it gives you this, at least it did with my browser, why don't you try it?
Now, there were spurious reports of "sea rise" in Miami but not, only 50 miles away, in the Florida Keys it was not rising. This was found out to be because Miami was sinking, as was Beijing, by about four inches a year because the silly fucks pumped all the groundwater out. You know how nature abhors a vacuum.
Here's the long history of sea rise:
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Look around 8000 years back. See that? That's the 33,3 century nominal sea rise.
That stopped a few years ago.
Now, if you look at the same time period in the NSIDC graph is ice, you'll see there's a corresponding uptick in sea ice:
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Ok? So uptick in ice, seas fall. Got that now?
Nore that carbon dioxide also flarlines 6 years ago.
Here's the stuff on the error in sea rise measurement in Miami:
Here's a picture of it:
http://geologylearn.blogspot.c...
Here's thr article in Nature about Florida.
http://www.nature.com/news/sou...
Here's the article about Beijing.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/73907...
Here's the Co2 flatline stuff:
2015 CO2 has flatlined.
13 March 2015 Data from the International Energy Agency (IEA) indicate that global emissions of carbon dioxide from the energy sector stalled in 2014, marking the first time in 40 years in which there was a halt or reduction in emissions of the greenhouse gas that was not tied to an economic downturn.
http://www.iea.org/newsroomand...
2016 CO2 flatlined for a second year in a row.
"The IEA reports that for the second year in a row, the world economy has grown while energy-related CO2 emissionsremained flat."
http://thinkprogress.org/clima...
2017 CO2 emissions remain flat for a third year.
IEA finds CO2 emissions flat for third straight year even as global economy grew in 2016 17 March 2017.
https://www.iea.org/newsroom/n...
MIT Technology Review also reported the fact CO2 stopped rising as well.
https://www.iea.org/newsroom/n...
It doesn't matter what you "believe". The facts are, seas a falling, ice is growing and coe
I call bullshit.
Ice is up, not down at both poles, while the Arctic goes up and down a but the Antarctic only increases much to the amazement of the the alarmists. Total sea ice has never gone down and is increasing presently to the point the seas are falling while the media claims or sometimes hints they're rising. Sea level was actually never rising abnormally, it's been 33,3cm/century for about 15,000 years. The gasses are methane and food for the microflora of the new tundra. We are coming out of an ice age and of course you can find thawing bits, it's just that there's more freezing bits than thawing bits by a large margin.
Sea ice.
Screenshot of the US National Snow and Ice Data Center graph of aggregate sea ice.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
South Sea Ice.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
So, the claims the "ice could be gone as early as 2015" (Gore 2009) are utterly specious; this really devalues the Nobel prize in my mind or his half of it anyway which is when he said this.
Anyway, the ice melt doesn't show up any graph. So let's look at the sat imagery NASA has at the pole.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Ok so it doesn't show up in NASA sat imagery either. What about maps?
Isn't it cool how you can get the story from a piece of the url? "arctic-sea-ice-gains-can-be-seen-on-new-government-map-of-canada"
Anyway, Canada added ice to the marine navigation maps. The US doesn't have much arctic, Greenland has more I suspect, the rest Canada and Russia have. The Russians added ice to their maps too.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technol...
So I dunno about this "melt" it doesn't show up maps, test instruments or sat imagery.
As I said, the sea levels are falling not rising if you believe NASA.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Looks like sea level was pretty constant for th last 8000 years. Now seas have been falling for about 6 years. If they were supposed to rise abnormally I can't see where.
http://rs79.vrx.palo-alto.ca.u...
Here's the article in Nature from a few years ago. They figured if all this methane was coming up there would be an increase in carbon in the soil but there wasn't and they wrote up why they found out why: it's food for the emergent fora and fungi. Which makes sense, the plans and carbon all frozen together, why WOULD you have one wuthoutthe other. You freaky, nature.
"Fungi pull carbon into northern forest soils Organisms living on tree roots do lion’s share of sequestering carbon
"But scientists have not understood where exactly trees put their carbon. The issue becomes important when researchers build computer simulations that track carbon cycling."
https://www.sciencenews.org/ar...
"Small 'hot spot' responsible for producing the largest concentration of the greenhouse gas methane seen over the United States"
"Nasa set to investigate unexplained hotspot over the 'four corners' intersection in Southwest
Small 'hot spot' responsible for producing the largest concentration of the greenhouse gas methane seen over the United States
Area near the Four Corners intersection of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah covers 2,500 square miles
Hotspot predates widespread fracking in the area "
Actually if you look at the math in this paper temperature anomalies of the 20th century were not in any way unusual fom temperature anomalies in the previous 8100 centuries:
http://multi-science.atypon.co...
Think about it, pick any two points on a line and you can show a positive, negative or zero slope and "prove" anything if you pick the two points correctly. For example using the noaa data post 2K you can show warming, cooling or no change *depending on what points you pick*. (The NOAA has a graphing calculator you can play with to prove this to yourself - if you can prove your opponents point with this tool as well as yours maybe the methodology was meant for demonstration to the public and not mathematical rigor, eh?
The fact they play fast and loose with the math is not confidence inspiring. Recall the statement "each of the past 10 years has been the hottest on record" - the president has actually said this (and you'll note has never used the word "pollution") but the numbers clearly show that 1989 was the hottest year and each year from 200o to 2009 was colder than the previous one. A clear decadal cooling period but still hot years this making the statement true, despite the fact it got cooler each year not warmer as they tried to infer. That's not science, that's marketing. If you have to lie about it, it's probably not true or you wouldn't need to lie you's just explain the facts. The facts are it stopped warming and we were wrong about CO2. Overall it has a positive effect, not negative and it created by an increase in temperature not vice versa. Only 4 billion years of fossils show this, argue with CERN and NASA if you disagree.
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http://climate-math.science/.i...
http://climate-math.science/.i...
Here's ALL the temperature data all 4.5 billion years of it, so there's zero chance of cherry picking. The other point that kills the agw argument is there's no discernable human signature of warming in the thermal record. If you think there is, please point it out - it will be recognizable as a sharper slope than has ever occurred in the thermal record before.
http://climate-math.science/.i...
Co2 stopped rising years ago:
http://thinkprogress.org/clima...
It was higher (by 40 ppm) 200 years ago:
http://climate-math.science/.i...
(See Beck 2008).
Articles keep saying "global warming" as if it were true. It's never actually been proved true, that was a hypothesis based on some incomplete models and now have 75% error between predicted and measured temperature. Even when CO2 ose temperature declined (2000-2009) for a decade, every year being colder than the previous despite CO2 rising sharply:
In a new interview with MSNBC he says: '"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.'
https://web.archive.org/web/20...
Nah it's pretty mundane and only tells you about their stuff, how it does something complicated and patentable with something expressed by 30% of cancers. Big deal.
In 2007, Potter, Burke et al found CYP1B1 in nearly 100% of cancers.
Fitst they found Resveratrol ("red wine") killed cells with these markers (which turn the Resveratrol into potential which kills only that cell) but it wasn't strong enough to work on humans. Next they found the Salvestrol family of molecules.
Have a look for yourself how well that panned out.
Try going outside. You appear to be in a condo in Vancouver. You may be on heroin.
It's been so cold in Canada in the last three years we've broken dozens if not hundreds of cold record temperature records:
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/febru...
We've not broken one for warm/hot, just record cold.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...
"Environment Canada has released its list of top weather stories over the past year, and the long winter chill took top spot."
The Great Lakes attained 92 per cent ice coverage for the first time in 35 years, sea ice was back on the East Coast and ice in the Gulf of St. Lawrence was its thickest in 25 years."
Frost in late may/early June? Welcome to Canada, eh?
http://www.quintenews.com/2015...
Niagra falls has frozen about 7 times in 200 years. Last year and the year before were two of those times.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Plus, you know, the Arctic sea ice has grown so much - because it's unseasonabley cold and hs been for a decade according to the NOAA - that we have to redraw the maps becvause of eht INCREASE IN ARCTIC SEA ICE. There's more of it now than when "global warming" started.
I'd have to say, as a Canadian living in Canada you don't see a lot of global warming here. More like the next ice age.
One scientist who predicted this in 2008 had his work vetted by CERN and NASA and botttom line: 27 more years of this cold then it'll warm again.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technol...
Look at the number of temperature records set for cold and hot worldwide. I believe that explains why they're so desperate to prove a hot climate record. It's because they keep trying to prove one, keep being corrected when it's pointed out it's not really a record in a field of so many cold weather records.
Can't say there's any sign of warming in Canada. The current Indian Summer, a first in a decade is not a sign the planet is warming, Sparky.
It's a 300 year old one of many branches of medicine. From that school came vaccines, ergot, caffein and many more.
Google homeopathic cocoa and click images.
"Homeopathic" is a Latin word and it has a very very specific technical meaning. Do the above search and ask yourself how does it differ from an Apple?
If you don't feel that's correct please alter Wikpedia and they'll explain it to you.
This is from the medical industry's history of vaccination, this is not from any homeopathic sources, so you just disagreed with vaccine stuff.
You did this because you don't actually know a fucking thing about the subject you're attempting to discuss with somebody who has studied it
probably for longer than you've been alive.
Always check, you may not be right ad in a post Internet ra there is no excuse for this ignorance.
I've researched this for many years. It's interesting.
I wrote this from memory, not from "google searches". I use Google scholar anyway.
You have not found an incorrect premise or any flaws in he logic. You don't like it. Ok. So fucking what?
Here's the cleaned up copy I sent to JC's people.
http://insights.rs79.vrx.net/s...
Vaccines, opium, digitalis and many more came from the homeopathic school. Suggest you read some medical history and stop guessing incorrectly.
Well put.
Number of people killed by homeopathy: zero.
Number of people killed by the medical system. Well, that's awkward, the medical system itself if the third leading cause of death in the United States today.
Examining the actual evidence on all sides is appropriate at this juncture.
The medical system third-leading cause of death in the United States.
Starfield B (July 2000). "Is US health really the best in the world?". JAMA 284 (4): 483–5. doi:10.1001/jama.284.4.483. PMID 10904513.
Ioannidis JPA (2005) Why Most Published Research Findings Are False. PLoS Med 2(8): e124. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
http://journals.plos.org/plosm...
What is medicine's 5 sigma? - Richard Hortonemail - DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S014... http://www.thelancet.com/journ...
Pharmecutical companies write their own "clinical reports", then bribe doctors to put their names on them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/soci...
Such "ghostwriting" is not uncommon at all.
Lacasse JR, Leo J (2010) Ghostwriting at Elite Academic Medical Centers in the United States. PLoS Med 7(2): e1000230. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.1000230
http://www.plosmedicine.org/ar...
Homeopathy is pharmaceuticals. This is surgury. False equivalence.
Vaccines came from the homeopathic school, see Harris et al re 1720.
Google homeopathic cocao, click images. Notice the homeopathic label? An apple you eat, cocoa you dilute. It's a technical term not a political ideology. Commercial speech has altered the meaning. Phrases such as "a homeopathic dose of barbiturates" for example are still in common use in medicine today.
The school of homeopathy was the 1700s alchemists way of experimenting. Mercury killed you but tiny amounts cures syphilis. We get digitalis opium ergot and caffeine for the homeopathic school (See Harris).
Any comprehensive book on the history of medicine will explain this.
Speaking of flu, it still kills ten 911's worth of Americans every season and none at all needs to die. Flu actually appears to be curable and people have been brought back from the dead with powerful native american medicine. That we put through a gas chromatograph and found ascorbate.
Here's how it happened.
In 1931 pauling publishes his thesis on the hydrogen bond and by 33 lemania had not only merged with omega but ascorbate was identified as the killer of Jacques Cartier's (Cousteau? Not the scuba one the other guy I always get those confused, nice man, avid fisherman) crew, or rather the lack of it and we had a cure for scurvy now. 500 years this had dogged so it was tried on everything and worked on so many things doctors in the day, as Klenner wrote, would tell their nurse to inject ascorbate then begin diagnosis after a man with an insect sting allergy nearly died because he didn't get an injection fast enough - put the electrons back quick enough and anaphylactic shock abates)
Fifteen years prior, Klenner's family had been spared from the 1914 Spanish influenza when everybody around was dying by the herb boneset. He wrote in 1974 near his death:
"Ancient History and Homespun Vitamin C Therapies
Folklore of past civilizations report that for every disease afflicting man there is an herb or its equivalent that will effect a cure. In Puerto Rico the story has long been told "that to have the health tree Acerola in one's back yard would keep colds out of the front door." 1 The ascorbic acid content of this cherry-like fruit is thirty times that found in oranges. In Pennsylvania, U.S.A., it was, and for many still is, Boneset, scientifically called Eupatorium perfoliatum 2. Although it is now rarely prescribed by physicians, Boneset was the most commonly used medicinal plant of eastern United States. Most farmsteads had a bundle of dried Boneset in the attic or woodshed from which a most bitter tea would he meted out to the unfortunate victim of a cold or fever. Having lived in that section of the country we qualified many times for this particular drink. The Flu of 1918 stands out very forcefully in that the Klenners survived when scores about us were dying. Although bitter it was curative and most of the time the cure was overnight. Several years ago my curiosity led me to assay this "herbal medicine" and to my surprise and delight I found that we had been taking from ten to thirty grams of natural vitamin C at one time. Even then it was given by body weight. Children one cupful; adults two to three cupfuls. Cups those days held eight ounces. Twentieth century man seemingly forgets that his ancestors made crude drugs from various plants and roots, and that these decoctions, infusions, juices, powders, pills and ointments served his purpose. Elegant pharmacy has only made the forms and shapes more acceptable.
Early specifications, action and dosages for administrations.
To understand the chemical behavior of ascorbic acid in human pathology, one must go beyond its present academic status either as a factor essential for life or as a substance necessary to prevent scurvy. This knowledge is elementary. Listen to what appeared in Food and Life Yearbook 1939, U.S. Department of Agriculture: 3. In fact even when there is not a single outward symptom of trouble, a person may be in a state of vitamin C deficiency more dangerous than scurvy itself. " http://scarc.library.oregonsta...
(Paling in a 1953 painting. Those molecules spell out "Hello Sweetie" in old Gallifreyan. Good trick BBC.)
"Klenner's paper (Klenner FR. The treatment of poliomyelitis and other virus diseases with vitamin C. J. South. Med. and Surg., 111:210-214, 1949.) on curing 60 cases of polio in the epidemic of 1948 should have changed the way infectious diseases were treated but it did not." - Robert Cathcart
"should have changed the way infectious diseases were treated but it did not." - keep thinking about that.
Beginning in the 1930s we began using IV ascorbate to relieve oxidative s
Hello;
Homeopathy began in the 1720s upon the accidental discovery that milkmaids who get cowpox on their hands never get smallpox. The Homeopathic school assumed this met their criteria for "like protects against like" and from the homeopathic school we got immunization technology in 1720. Saucy wenches too. Woohoo.
Of The things that came from the school of homeopathy unacknowledged are digitalis, opium and more. Dr. Harris coulter MD writes:
"In the second half of the century pharmacology came increasingly under the influence of the allopathic pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, but such medicines remained in common allopathic use even so — often with the note that the "mechanism of action" remains unknown. These would include: belladonna, coffee and caffeine for headaches, ergot for headache (the OTC drug Cafergot), coffee for hyperactivity in juveniles, lobelia and stramonium for asthma (the OTC drug Asthmador), nitroglycerine for angina pectoris, opium and its derivatives for headaches, botulinum poison for strabismus and other visual disturbances, platinum (Cisplatin, platinol) for testicular cancer, cobra toxin in heart conditions and eye diseases, krait venom in myasthenia gravis, rattlesnake venom in epilepsy, honey-bee venom in arthritis, gold salts in rheumatism, quinidine in heart conditions, etc. etc."
These then are homeopathic medicines that quietly got snookerd into "mainstream medicine" that then attacked the school they came from. As the first post said it's political not scientific.
That crap about the magic water and sugar pills, that came out of a crazy guy in france in the 1960s and is nothing to do with it really. Ignore that.
Harris has a long essay which I found rather fascinating, the above is an excerpt and if you're interested in the history of medicine and pharmacology it's very definitely worth a read.
http://orthomolecular.org/libr...
Curiously too the "like works on like" idea is what saved us from ebola but in a post-Pauling world we know it was because a specific molecule disrupted the life cycle of the virus. Two different ways of saying the same thing it turns out. The molecule in question is in the African version o the virus but not the non-pathogenic Asian("Reston") strain. Actually there's 12 of them but never mind that.
So vaccines are homeopathic for one thing. And you want all homeopathic remedies banned? Ok, so digitals and ergot, you meant them right, and you want to ban vaccines? Why? Some of them actually work. Christ, not the flu shot though, that seems to have got stuck in reverse and now it adds to not subtracts from the death rate in seniors. Turns out the importance of those molecule Pauling was talking about turn out to be important, that' bat's beyond the scope of this quick note. The other Linus. he timelines got all messed up and there weren't supposed to e two of them now so that's a little odd too.
Flu vaccine paradox adds to public health debate
'Canadian problem' an example of odd effects of prior vaccination
CBC News Posted: Jan 16, 2015 2:46 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 18, 2015 5:35 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/...
(other articles on CBC around the same time show Canada fond the vaccine doesn't live up to the numbers the Americans sent with it. 23% is not what was promised)
Translation: the more shots you get the more likely you are to die. Since they've never been shown to actually save lives the takeaway point from that is your chances of surviving the flu are great if you don't get a flu shot. Actually they improve if the levels of enzymes, minerals and fatty acids permit the body to overcome the oxidative stress caused by the virus but we'll go into that later. As one immunologist so aptly put it, just take your vitamin and you should be ok and it does turn out to be a dec
You're gonna tell kids the poles are melting?
What happens when they look at a map and see it's expanding?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technol...
What happens if they go to James Bay which is solid ice now and hear it wasn't 30 years ago, check with NASA and find there's more ice now than before?
http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/i...
What happens if they look at the south pole?
http://www.nasa.gov/content/go...
When the disconnect between readily available physical evidence and the popular media is this vast you'd hope the educational system would side with science. Odds are these facts aren't in the curriculum (somebody should check).
As you ponder America augering into the ground consider the benefits of being truthful with children. The left bought black science guy and white science guy to brainwash children and Murdoch just bought NatGeo now he's figured it out, reasoning those ads^H^H^Hfacts last 30 years in dentists and doctors offices.
I thought America was all about truth and liberty? Not commercial propaganda and oppression of free thought.
There's two fundamentals flaws with that idea. First recheck your gas physics and chemistry; Mars is not earth. Second our first foray into space and you want to make it radio active. Good god man that's barbaric.
You don't want to heat the whole planet anyway, that's wasteful and how does any of us get to decide what happens to an entire world, any world?
Nah, forget that it's a dopey idea.
Move a billion gallons of water to crater, put a dome over it and float residences on water. There's reasons you don't want to live on land there if you think about it long enough.
Let's talk about how you haven't checkout out any of the claims. Your fallacy is: the argument from ignorance.
Why don't you go count how many times I've been wrong, son. if you can find one thing wrong I'll give you my house. If you can't find anything wrong you give me yours. We on here?
Well said and entirely correct.
Bad idea. You're making the assumption these things work. The idea is well intentioned, "oh those poor people that have no access to modern western medicine".
Pity the poor Baku in the coastal forest of west Gabon who have a natural immunity and cure for Ebola (There are tribes of Indians in the amazon in Bolivia too. Why? Riddle me this: what does the soil in Bolivia have in common with Senegal? That's the key to Gabon. Wouldn't you rather that than 40 years of trying to make a vaccine that at it's best is 25-75% effective. Note the death rate outside africa. Other than 2 (3?) we didn't hear about, or heard about when their liver had turned to soup, nobody else died of a disease that's up to >99% fatal (WHO).
http://en.ird.fr/the-media-cen...
I think its safe to say it's no longer a "possible" immunity. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and immunization technology from 1720 from the school of homeopathy ("like protects against like"; this remains unacknowledged but unverifiable) is one way but not the only way.
"29 January 2015 Last updated at 00:55 - We've now seen several cases that don't have any symptoms at all, asymptomatic cases," said Anavaj Sakuntabhai who suggested the virus might be mutating.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health...
Giggle. The virus didn't change. People did.
British nurse cured of Ebola credits new drug - and strawberries
"Back in Britain, the decision to try MIL 77 was not difficult. “I said ‘I have Ebola, so, yes, I’d rather have that than high-dose vitamin C,’” she said"
"“I reckon I’ve had 10 punnets,” joked Corporal Anna Cross, who smiled nervously as she talked for the first time after her treatment at the Royal Free Hospital in north London." (10 punnets would be about equal to two 1000mg injections a day)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...
April 2015 - semen found infected after 175 days, twice the previous record.
http://io9.com/ebola-survivors...
The Ebola outbreak in Liberia is over
9 May 2015 -- Today marks 42 days since the last confirmed case of Ebola in Liberia was safely buried — the period of time set by WHO to declare an outbreak over. WHO now considers Liberia free of Ebola transmission.
http://apps.who.int/ebola/libe...
Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - Ebola Not Mutating Beyond 'Normal' Rate, Scientists Say
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medline...
28 May 2015 | Did real-time epidemic modeling save lives in West Africa?
http://spectrum.ieee.org/compu...
Ask yourself what might have happened on October 17 2014.
"Pity the tribes in South America and North America who never suffer the effects of influenza.
"Folklore of past civilizations report that for every disease afflicting man there is an herb or its equivalent that will effect a cure. In Puerto Rico the story has long been told "that to have the health tree Acerola in one's back yard would keep colds out of the front door." 1 The ascorbic acid content of this cherry-like fruit is thirty times that found in oranges. In Pennsylvania, U.S.A., it was, and for many still is, Boneset, scientifically called Eupatorium perfoliatum 2. Although it is now rarely prescribed by physicians, Boneset was the most commonly used medicinal plant of eastern United States. Most farmsteads had a bundle of dried Boneset in the attic
We know why.
"Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations"
Instead, it was less extreme. No hurricane has made landfall in the US in over a decade. That's actually fairly uncommon.
Note it's not "worse".
Note they've never made a prediction that came true, ever. Check for yourself
" actively test a machine that shoots water droplets into the sky"
This is what trees do. Maybe if we hadn't removed half the world's trees in the last 100 years maybe carbon wouldn't have gone wonky. Just a thought.
Curiously, Beck 2008 shows Co2 40 ppm higher than now. 200 years ago.
SMH