For this, having some kids is an advantage, they're helping me ride the wave of new technology and even stay out ahead of it a little.
Huh? What does having kids have to do with the newest in network administrator or programming? Its not like an iPhone is something you really need to worry about much in either of those cases.
I'm sorry, can you deny it is more convenient? Lame as it may sound, it is true.
Not really. At one time trip to the store, and then I have the CD anytime I need after? No, its not true, its a very lame excuse.
Well, that's why MS makes billions, and you, apparently, do not.
I could point to you and any COMPANY and say the same thing. Whats your point?
If I were making software, it would be under the GPL or some similar licence. Copy it all you want.
Good luck feeding your family that way.
Besides, spending time coding anti-piracy measures is mostly wasting it, at least if you're mass-producing and mass-selling software. Or if you have an established de facto monopolly, so you can strong-arm former pirates into buying your product through Reduced Functionality Mode etc, which is what MS is doing now.
Its a waste of time yet you claim its working? Hmm.. interesting logic there. And I feel really sorry for those that stole something having it not work anymore.
Well, I could have given up my phone, too, and only used mobile.
Yes, you could, and many people do. Oh, and then there's also VOIP now too. But those are all relatively recent, which is why the telcos are a monopoly (and still are, because they own the lines, something YOU cannot change).
Microsoft's success is not all about work. Do words "unfair business practice" mean anything to you?
Ahh, so that justifies your stealing. Lets be real here, others can compete, there were OSes long before DOS or Windows. This also isn't about what MS has done, its about you attempting to justify your stealing.
Besides, piracy increases your market share and your mindshare; home users will likely pirate your stuff, while business users likely will not. Home users use software they use at work, and vice versa.
You act as if a majority of home or business users pirate. That's simply not true. They pay for windows when they buy their computer with Windows already installed.
Microsoft, however, is a convicted abuser of their monopolly.
So that means its ok to steal from them? Can you punch someone in the gut because they commited a crime once?
First of all, I do not steal. Copyright infringement is not theft. So sod off.
Ya you did. You're using software you didn't pay for. Software which is BENFITING YOU, but which you have not given any compensation for. With everything else that someone works to produce, you have the option to buy it or go without.
Secondly, if I were dishonest, I'd simply keep my big mouth shut and you'd be none the wiser.
You stole a product, you're dishonest.
Did you even read my post?
Yup, and you even said you could have bought the student license.
Copyright infringement is not theft.
I have not stolen a packed CD; I received a copy of a copy of a copy.
I have deprived no-one of their legal copy, I haven't stolen something someone else would have bought.
I know this difference may be a bit too subtle for someone clearly incapable of reading a whole post, but do try.
What I understand is that a company is out the money they would have gotten if you were honest. If you don't want to pay for it, GO WITHOUT.
It has to do with the law in these parts.
Really? A case about a guy shoving his finger up someone's ass somehow is linked to copyright?
Are you American, by any chance? From where I stand, it looks like you're doing just that.
And from my comments, can you not tell I don't approve of that methodology?
Of course not. I am only forced to use it. That's what I'm talking about; are you catching on already?
You're forced to play PC games? Oh your college requires Windows. Why not have choosen one that didn't? Do you get upset if they expect you to purchase textbooks for your courses? Pens? Paper? Why is Windows different
Hmm, I remember hearing about global warming at the same time as the ozone problem, some 15 years ago. Maybe also the ozone problem was one which was easier to fix (remove CFCs) than global warming.
Overpopulation is also still a big problem, which you could argue is the cause of some of these other problems as well. Don't go by what the news says is a problem; they have the attention span of a nat, and about as much intelligence.
Because the hole was getting bigger each year for quite a few years now (15 at least), and this is the first year it actually got smaller. And because there are other factors as to why it got smaller.
No, it doesn't produce the variable name or comments. It DOES produce code that compiles exactly the same way the original source code would have. If it doesn't, its a bug in Reflector... but if the IL matches, the code is equivolent. Not as easy to read, but you can figure out what it does. I've done this serveral times already... its not reallly hard to figure out how it works.
But I'd have to actually go to a store, not just tell any of my friends I needed a Windows CD and get it, sometimes right away. Outside working hours, too.
How often do you need the cd? Besides, you only need to buy the cd once, and you have it. Seems like a pretty lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry, are you actually suggesting that if everyone bought Windows, it would be cheaper?
Yes, quite possibly. If I was making software, and I noticed that about 10% was pirated, I would factor that in to the cost of my next release. Not to mention extra time spent coding any anti-piracy measures.
I don't know about you, but I've lived my whole life being sucked dry by monopollies, including the German telco giant abusing the monopolly they'd bought - practically with our own money.
Sorry, you can't compare a telco monopoly to Windows. There are alternatives, and you can switch right now. You even say games are the only reason you keep windows. Sounds to me then you should just give up games on the PC and use software you aquired ligitmately.
Giants get no sympathy from me, for they sure have no sympathy for me. I may not be any better than them, but I don't aspire to be, either. I live in the Balkans; here, morality is a distant second, or even fifth, to survival. No prisoner's dilemma here; everybody cheats, so you lose if you don't.
I see, so its ok to steal from people that have worked to earn more than you. For your informatin though, not everyone cheats, not everyone is a criminal. If you really believe that, perhaps its time to go back to absolutionish rule and let the government do whatever it wants; after all, everyone is a criminal anyway, so why not let them do anything they want.
Did I say I pirated any other software?
Even on Windows, I try to use as much F/OSS as possible.
I dunno, I tend to think that if one can rationalize stealing one item, they can rationalize stealing something else. You admit you steal, so I don't really have much reason to believe you only stole this one thing. That's the problem with someone that steals, its a dishonest act, and so your honesty gets called into question.
Well, you obviously know very little about the law in these parts. Let me illustrate this: the Wikipedia article about handshake is locked, primarily because people have tried - several hundred times, I believe - to insert a vital piece of trivia. Namely, one of our judges stated in his verdict that pushing a finger in someone's anus cannot be rape, but is rather more like a handshake. And despite many verdicts of this kind, he is still a judge.
And this has what to do exactly with copyright? Oh right, nothing.
I don't use Windows for anything but the things there is no alternative for. Namely, one or two games that don't work under Wine and the few courses I cannot escape Windows.
Again, does your college not provide a computer lab for which you can do your work? How about a student license for Windows? Those are typically MUCH cheaper than retail. Why not give up games on the PC? Can I steal a Wii because there's an exclusive game on it I want to play?
Well, you obviously know about the education here just as much as you know about the law.
My faculty has over 30 departments and one computer lab. I brought my old Linux machine and put it in one of the students' clubs.
How would I even know what country you were in unti this post? At anyrate, it sounds a rather cheap university.. maybe you should have investaged better what the courses would require and what kind of facilaties it had before you decided to enroll.
I could actually get a licenced copy of Windows cheap, as there is bound to be some sort of agreement between my university and Microsoft - but I refuse to. As long as I'm forced to use Windows, as long as I have to buy a Mac to get a decent laptop without Windows, and especially as long as Microso
Hmm, did you? When productivity was measured by the hour rather than by the total number of hours worked, however, Norway, an oil nation, was the most productive, followed by the United States and France.
So we're not #1, as you claim. A EUROPEAN country is, and France, another European country, is right behind us. So I'd say that backs my claims more than yours.
Nice try. Take your low karma having ass and debate some other retard on a topic that you actually know a thing or two about. You're out of your depth, son, and it shows.
Oh please, you're the one that comes off without a clue. You can't even properly interperate your own article link. Take your stupid high id and go to digg; they like retards there. See, I can post start at 2 also.. i just choose not to when responding to retards.
And I don't want to hear any garbage about "wage slavery" or "no options" or "corporate greed." If you don't want to trade your labor for what you are willing to convince someone to pay for it, then don't do it.
Ya! Because those things never existed, especially not around say the 1900s.
I'm not sure what you're point is. IL code is IL code. I believe in fact that the language compiler is smart enough to see the first line of code you posted and change it to a single string.
I was pretty surprised to read "The security of the.NET Framework does not depend on the obscurity of the.NET Framework source code" in one of their press releases.
Why were you suprised? Any.Net assembly, including the ones that MS ships, are just IL code. Reflector.net can even show you the code in VB,C#, Delphi, etc. I thought.Net developers knew this.
What lengths? Getting a fully patched, updated and activated pirated copy is both cheaper and easier than getting it the legal way, at least in my country.
Well theft is always cheaper. I'm not sure how its easier; you have no store you can go into and simply buy a copy of software?
I find Windows barely good enough for some purposes - definitely not good enough to pay the listed price (which is relatively higher than people in the US have to pay, as my income is much lower). I know that my actions are considered wrong or immoral by some, if not most people; I really and truly do not care. I don't feel like I'm stealing or damaging someone in any way; I may be breaking the law, but frankly, I don't care. Since the law certainly isn't protecting me, I don't think exploitation should go one-way only.
So don't use if, if it doesn't meet your needs or you don't find value in it. You are damaging someone; your making it more expensive for people who do buy it, you're affecting a company which does employ people. MS may have more than enough money to ensure it can give its employees raises, but its an exception. Apply your reasoning to other software, especially from smaller shops, and you certainly are affecting someone's livelihood.
The law would protect you if you were creating software (or any other copyrighted product for that matter). You're not being exploited by paying for things you used.
Microsoft has had this tacit agreement with home pirates - while publicly speaking against software piracy, MS used it to their own advantage. They do their best to hunt down business pirates, but home users are too much of a bother, and too useful to stamp out. Thus I live in a strange symbiosis with Windows and Microsoft - I don't like them, they probably don't like me, but we each perceive some benefits of tolerating each other's existence.
You say the software isn't of value to you earlier, yet here you claim it does benefit you? Its not feasible to track down home pirates, sure, the RIAA is finding this out, but if you really don't like MS or its products, don't use them. It seems you're hurting alternatives more than anything else.
For what it's worth, I consider myself done with Windows. I still need it because some of my classes are Windows-only, but that's about it. I'm not even playing games as much as I used to; I no longer have the time. And so the symbiosis will end...
So why not remove it now? Surely you have computer labs if your coursework requires work to be done on computers.
Anyway, one more thing: even if what I'm doing is so terribly wrong, I see absolutely no reason to agree to having a company audit my system in any way. The government may try to do so if they produce a warrant, should they suspect me of a crime; I'm loath to willingly surrender my system to some company for the same purpose.
I dunno; it seems rather natural to check in on someone that broke the law. This is done with criminals too.
Um, how is it "beta testing with a peak at the code" if they aren't going to release the source until AFTER the RTM?
Personally this is great; if you do happen to find a bug you can report it to MS exactly where the bug occurs, and they can take over from there ensuring that any fix doesn't blow up other code.
I own and have paid for a copy of XP for every computer I'm running it on, but I run pirate (volume license) copies because product activation and WGA are such a pain in the arse that it's better to firewall unpatched machines than license them.
How is it a pain? Activation happens once typically, and you never even see WGA unless you go to MS downloads and see a Validate button instead of download.
So you don't think you should have to pay for the product that someone else produced? I assume then you didn't pay for the games you play either. Ya, its your computer, it doesn't give you the right to rip of the work of other people. If you don't want to pay for the OS, then don't use it.
Its ironic the lengths that MS haters will go to so that they can still have a copy of MS software.
Your other comments are shit, and ignore research into this area. For example, the last hour is the least productive because you are fatigued. But I won't throw any more facts against your irrational beliefs.
Says the dupe that doesn't know what he's talking about.
First, if you cut the day to 7 hours, the last hour will still be the least productive hour. And it will be LESS productive than the 7th hour currently is in an 8 hour day.
Wow, what utter nonsense. I suggest you read up on the law of diminsihing returns. Oh and the studies done that have shown otherwise. Care to back YOUR source for saying somehow we'd be less productive at the end of the sixth hour than the seventh?
Second, you getting to eat dinner one hour earlier has no aggregate effect on the nation. You getting to put your feet up one hour earlier does not contribute to any measurable statistic of our economy. At first it will improve quality of life. You'd see those metrics rise. But soon you'll get used to it and it'll feel every bit the slog that it does now.
Right, because the rates of worker burnout in Europe are much higher than here. Oh wait... And it does have an aggragete effect; happy workers are more productive, as are well rested and relaxed workers. But since you've never had to work 60 or 70 hour weeks for months at a time, I guess you wouldn't know that.
Third, it would remove 50bn man years from the work-place each year compared to a 40 hour week for 200MM workers. That's the equivalent of 24MM man years. That would CERTAINLY have an effect on the metrics we use to measure our economy.
Right, which is why the Euro is toliet paper compared to the US dollar. Oh wait...
Fourth, many people are hourly workers. This MAY decrease unemployment b/c employers will have to hire those 25MM man years back into the workforce. But it will decrease these hourly workers pay by 12.5%. That'll have a BIG impact on individual lives AND the economy as a whole, not to mention government tax receipts.
You assume (wrongly) that most businesses NEED to be open for 8 hours a day. Which is of course horseshit. There are a huge number of companies that simply will close later. Plus, because the workers are more well rested and happier with their life, you know, that quality of life which I guess is meaningless to you, they become MORE productive. In other words, they get more done in seven hours than they could in eight typically. But who cares about quality of life, after all its the CEO that should get all the profits, so we should rollback overtime and child labor laws too, BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE WORKING ALL THE TIME. Asshole.
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For this, having some kids is an advantage, they're helping me ride the wave of new technology and even stay out ahead of it a little.
Huh? What does having kids have to do with the newest in network administrator or programming? Its not like an iPhone is something you really need to worry about much in either of those cases.
I was angry with Bungie when, just a few months before Halo was to be released as a Mac exclusive, Microsoft bought them out and put them to work.
Mac exclusive? Why, so they can sell to all 20 people that play games on thier Macs? If you think the PC game market is small...
Well that's becaus offensive content is filtered in Walmart DVDs. The saves comes from the deleted scenes!
When was the last time any software maker did so?
hmm, want to back that up. My wife works with medical records, and HIPPA severely limits who can see any patient information.
I'm sorry, can you deny it is more convenient? Lame as it may sound, it is true.
Not really. At one time trip to the store, and then I have the CD anytime I need after? No, its not true, its a very lame excuse.
Well, that's why MS makes billions, and you, apparently, do not.
I could point to you and any COMPANY and say the same thing. Whats your point?
If I were making software, it would be under the GPL or some similar licence. Copy it all you want.
Good luck feeding your family that way.
Besides, spending time coding anti-piracy measures is mostly wasting it, at least if you're mass-producing and mass-selling software. Or if you have an established de facto monopolly, so you can strong-arm former pirates into buying your product through Reduced Functionality Mode etc, which is what MS is doing now.
Its a waste of time yet you claim its working? Hmm.. interesting logic there. And I feel really sorry for those that stole something having it not work anymore.
Well, I could have given up my phone, too, and only used mobile.
Yes, you could, and many people do. Oh, and then there's also VOIP now too. But those are all relatively recent, which is why the telcos are a monopoly (and still are, because they own the lines, something YOU cannot change).
Microsoft's success is not all about work. Do words "unfair business practice" mean anything to you?
Ahh, so that justifies your stealing. Lets be real here, others can compete, there were OSes long before DOS or Windows. This also isn't about what MS has done, its about you attempting to justify your stealing.
Besides, piracy increases your market share and your mindshare; home users will likely pirate your stuff, while business users likely will not. Home users use software they use at work, and vice versa.
You act as if a majority of home or business users pirate. That's simply not true. They pay for windows when they buy their computer with Windows already installed.
Microsoft, however, is a convicted abuser of their monopolly.
So that means its ok to steal from them? Can you punch someone in the gut because they commited a crime once?
First of all, I do not steal. Copyright infringement is not theft. So sod off.
Ya you did. You're using software you didn't pay for. Software which is BENFITING YOU, but which you have not given any compensation for. With everything else that someone works to produce, you have the option to buy it or go without.
Secondly, if I were dishonest, I'd simply keep my big mouth shut and you'd be none the wiser.
You stole a product, you're dishonest.
Did you even read my post?
Yup, and you even said you could have bought the student license.
Copyright infringement is not theft.
I have not stolen a packed CD; I received a copy of a copy of a copy.
I have deprived no-one of their legal copy, I haven't stolen something someone else would have bought.
I know this difference may be a bit too subtle for someone clearly incapable of reading a whole post, but do try.
What I understand is that a company is out the money they would have gotten if you were honest. If you don't want to pay for it, GO WITHOUT.
It has to do with the law in these parts.
Really? A case about a guy shoving his finger up someone's ass somehow is linked to copyright?
Are you American, by any chance? From where I stand, it looks like you're doing just that.
And from my comments, can you not tell I don't approve of that methodology?
Of course not. I am only forced to use it. That's what I'm talking about; are you catching on already?
You're forced to play PC games? Oh your college requires Windows. Why not have choosen one that didn't? Do you get upset if they expect you to purchase textbooks for your courses? Pens? Paper? Why is Windows different
Hmm, I remember hearing about global warming at the same time as the ozone problem, some 15 years ago. Maybe also the ozone problem was one which was easier to fix (remove CFCs) than global warming.
Overpopulation is also still a big problem, which you could argue is the cause of some of these other problems as well. Don't go by what the news says is a problem; they have the attention span of a nat, and about as much intelligence.
Because the hole was getting bigger each year for quite a few years now (15 at least), and this is the first year it actually got smaller. And because there are other factors as to why it got smaller.
Yup, I was. And the Linux situation isn't much better.
Else, the corporate idea-thieves would've long ago taken over Linux, and made colourful, bloated clones..
Ya, thank god there's only one LInux distro!
No, it doesn't produce the variable name or comments. It DOES produce code that compiles exactly the same way the original source code would have. If it doesn't, its a bug in Reflector... but if the IL matches, the code is equivolent. Not as easy to read, but you can figure out what it does. I've done this serveral times already... its not reallly hard to figure out how it works.
I don't recall them saying this about the .Net framework though. They've said it about the OS, sure.
Well, yes, I could.
But I'd have to actually go to a store, not just tell any of my friends I needed a Windows CD and get it, sometimes right away. Outside working hours, too.
How often do you need the cd? Besides, you only need to buy the cd once, and you have it. Seems like a pretty lame excuse to me.
I'm sorry, are you actually suggesting that if everyone bought Windows, it would be cheaper?
Yes, quite possibly. If I was making software, and I noticed that about 10% was pirated, I would factor that in to the cost of my next release. Not to mention extra time spent coding any anti-piracy measures.
I don't know about you, but I've lived my whole life being sucked dry by monopollies, including the German telco giant abusing the monopolly they'd bought - practically with our own money.
Sorry, you can't compare a telco monopoly to Windows. There are alternatives, and you can switch right now. You even say games are the only reason you keep windows. Sounds to me then you should just give up games on the PC and use software you aquired ligitmately.
Giants get no sympathy from me, for they sure have no sympathy for me. I may not be any better than them, but I don't aspire to be, either. I live in the Balkans; here, morality is a distant second, or even fifth, to survival. No prisoner's dilemma here; everybody cheats, so you lose if you don't.
I see, so its ok to steal from people that have worked to earn more than you. For your informatin though, not everyone cheats, not everyone is a criminal. If you really believe that, perhaps its time to go back to absolutionish rule and let the government do whatever it wants; after all, everyone is a criminal anyway, so why not let them do anything they want.
Did I say I pirated any other software?
Even on Windows, I try to use as much F/OSS as possible.
I dunno, I tend to think that if one can rationalize stealing one item, they can rationalize stealing something else. You admit you steal, so I don't really have much reason to believe you only stole this one thing. That's the problem with someone that steals, its a dishonest act, and so your honesty gets called into question.
Well, you obviously know very little about the law in these parts. Let me illustrate this: the Wikipedia article about handshake is locked, primarily because people have tried - several hundred times, I believe - to insert a vital piece of trivia. Namely, one of our judges stated in his verdict that pushing a finger in someone's anus cannot be rape, but is rather more like a handshake. And despite many verdicts of this kind, he is still a judge.
And this has what to do exactly with copyright? Oh right, nothing.
I don't use Windows for anything but the things there is no alternative for. Namely, one or two games that don't work under Wine and the few courses I cannot escape Windows.
Again, does your college not provide a computer lab for which you can do your work? How about a student license for Windows? Those are typically MUCH cheaper than retail. Why not give up games on the PC? Can I steal a Wii because there's an exclusive game on it I want to play?
Well, you obviously know about the education here just as much as you know about the law.
My faculty has over 30 departments and one computer lab. I brought my old Linux machine and put it in one of the students' clubs.
How would I even know what country you were in unti this post? At anyrate, it sounds a rather cheap university.. maybe you should have investaged better what the courses would require and what kind of facilaties it had before you decided to enroll.
I could actually get a licenced copy of Windows cheap, as there is bound to be some sort of agreement between my university and Microsoft - but I refuse to. As long as I'm forced to use Windows, as long as I have to buy a Mac to get a decent laptop without Windows, and especially as long as Microso
Hmm, did you? When productivity was measured by the hour rather than by the total number of hours worked, however, Norway, an oil nation, was the most productive, followed by the United States and France.
So we're not #1, as you claim. A EUROPEAN country is, and France, another European country, is right behind us. So I'd say that backs my claims more than yours.
Nice try. Take your low karma having ass and debate some other retard on a topic that you actually know a thing or two about. You're out of your depth, son, and it shows.
Oh please, you're the one that comes off without a clue. You can't even properly interperate your own article link. Take your stupid high id and go to digg; they like retards there. See, I can post start at 2 also.. i just choose not to when responding to retards.
And I don't want to hear any garbage about "wage slavery" or "no options" or "corporate greed." If you don't want to trade your labor for what you are willing to convince someone to pay for it, then don't do it.
Ya! Because those things never existed, especially not around say the 1900s.
Right, because you've used the not-yet-released feedback system, and can say that it doesn't work.
I'm not sure what you're point is. IL code is IL code. I believe in fact that the language compiler is smart enough to see the first line of code you posted and change it to a single string.
I was pretty surprised to read "The security of the .NET Framework does not depend on the obscurity of the .NET Framework source code" in one of their press releases.
.Net assembly, including the ones that MS ships, are just IL code. Reflector.net can even show you the code in VB,C#, Delphi, etc. I thought .Net developers knew this.
Why were you suprised? Any
Fine, it a two minute phone call is too much trouble, then why use it at all? I suppose that says more about the alternatives than anything else.
What lengths? Getting a fully patched, updated and activated pirated copy is both cheaper and easier than getting it the legal way, at least in my country.
Well theft is always cheaper. I'm not sure how its easier; you have no store you can go into and simply buy a copy of software?
I find Windows barely good enough for some purposes - definitely not good enough to pay the listed price (which is relatively higher than people in the US have to pay, as my income is much lower). I know that my actions are considered wrong or immoral by some, if not most people; I really and truly do not care. I don't feel like I'm stealing or damaging someone in any way; I may be breaking the law, but frankly, I don't care. Since the law certainly isn't protecting me, I don't think exploitation should go one-way only.
So don't use if, if it doesn't meet your needs or you don't find value in it. You are damaging someone; your making it more expensive for people who do buy it, you're affecting a company which does employ people. MS may have more than enough money to ensure it can give its employees raises, but its an exception. Apply your reasoning to other software, especially from smaller shops, and you certainly are affecting someone's livelihood.
The law would protect you if you were creating software (or any other copyrighted product for that matter). You're not being exploited by paying for things you used.
Microsoft has had this tacit agreement with home pirates - while publicly speaking against software piracy, MS used it to their own advantage. They do their best to hunt down business pirates, but home users are too much of a bother, and too useful to stamp out. Thus I live in a strange symbiosis with Windows and Microsoft - I don't like them, they probably don't like me, but we each perceive some benefits of tolerating each other's existence.
You say the software isn't of value to you earlier, yet here you claim it does benefit you? Its not feasible to track down home pirates, sure, the RIAA is finding this out, but if you really don't like MS or its products, don't use them. It seems you're hurting alternatives more than anything else.
For what it's worth, I consider myself done with Windows. I still need it because some of my classes are Windows-only, but that's about it. I'm not even playing games as much as I used to; I no longer have the time. And so the symbiosis will end...
So why not remove it now? Surely you have computer labs if your coursework requires work to be done on computers.
Anyway, one more thing: even if what I'm doing is so terribly wrong, I see absolutely no reason to agree to having a company audit my system in any way. The government may try to do so if they produce a warrant, should they suspect me of a crime; I'm loath to willingly surrender my system to some company for the same purpose.
I dunno; it seems rather natural to check in on someone that broke the law. This is done with criminals too.
Um, how is it "beta testing with a peak at the code" if they aren't going to release the source until AFTER the RTM?
Personally this is great; if you do happen to find a bug you can report it to MS exactly where the bug occurs, and they can take over from there ensuring that any fix doesn't blow up other code.
I own and have paid for a copy of XP for every computer I'm running it on, but I run pirate (volume license) copies because product activation and WGA are such a pain in the arse that it's better to firewall unpatched machines than license them.
How is it a pain? Activation happens once typically, and you never even see WGA unless you go to MS downloads and see a Validate button instead of download.
So you don't think you should have to pay for the product that someone else produced? I assume then you didn't pay for the games you play either. Ya, its your computer, it doesn't give you the right to rip of the work of other people. If you don't want to pay for the OS, then don't use it.
Its ironic the lengths that MS haters will go to so that they can still have a copy of MS software.
Your other comments are shit, and ignore research into this area. For example, the last hour is the least productive because you are fatigued. But I won't throw any more facts against your irrational beliefs.
Luckily, there are direct statistics to measure productivity. And the US--and has been for a long time--the most productive nation in the world: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/business/worldbusiness/04output.html
Hmm, could that also because we are the most populous first world nation?
You're a moron.
Says the dupe that doesn't know what he's talking about.
First, if you cut the day to 7 hours, the last hour will still be the least productive hour. And it will be LESS productive than the 7th hour currently is in an 8 hour day.
Wow, what utter nonsense. I suggest you read up on the law of diminsihing returns. Oh and the studies done that have shown otherwise. Care to back YOUR source for saying somehow we'd be less productive at the end of the sixth hour than the seventh?
Second, you getting to eat dinner one hour earlier has no aggregate effect on the nation. You getting to put your feet up one hour earlier does not contribute to any measurable statistic of our economy. At first it will improve quality of life. You'd see those metrics rise. But soon you'll get used to it and it'll feel every bit the slog that it does now.
Right, because the rates of worker burnout in Europe are much higher than here. Oh wait...
And it does have an aggragete effect; happy workers are more productive, as are well rested and relaxed workers. But since you've never had to work 60 or 70 hour weeks for months at a time, I guess you wouldn't know that.
Third, it would remove 50bn man years from the work-place each year compared to a 40 hour week for 200MM workers. That's the equivalent of 24MM man years. That would CERTAINLY have an effect on the metrics we use to measure our economy.
Right, which is why the Euro is toliet paper compared to the US dollar. Oh wait...
Fourth, many people are hourly workers. This MAY decrease unemployment b/c employers will have to hire those 25MM man years back into the workforce. But it will decrease these hourly workers pay by 12.5%. That'll have a BIG impact on individual lives AND the economy as a whole, not to mention government tax receipts.
You assume (wrongly) that most businesses NEED to be open for 8 hours a day. Which is of course horseshit. There are a huge number of companies that simply will close later. Plus, because the workers are more well rested and happier with their life, you know, that quality of life which I guess is meaningless to you, they become MORE productive. In other words, they get more done in seven hours than they could in eight typically. But who cares about quality of life, after all its the CEO that should get all the profits, so we should rollback overtime and child labor laws too, BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE WORKING ALL THE TIME. Asshole.