This seems to be the popular sentiment, but you will have to eventually. The CIO of my company decides to install vista on his machine. I am responsible for backing up, virus scanning, etc. I took a look at vista and was completely lost. At that moment I knew that if I didnt want to play the fool, I'd better learn this shit. Its an alien feeling to me to sit infront of a machine at work and not instantly know how to do everything. I didn't like that feeling.
I didnt do anything crazy like install it at home (2k 4ever), but I did install it on my main work pc. To tell you the truth, aside from the fact that there are no drivers and many programs no longer work, its not that different from xp. You have to turn all the crap off, change the folders back to classic, etc. After that it pretty much operates like winxp and win2k. Is it worth upgrading a working XP copy? Hell no! Is it worth learning about so that your comfortable? Hell yes.
If you had asked me a month ago if I planned to move to vista I would have laughed circles around you. Well m$ wins again i suppose. Its not all bad though. I rather enjoy "windows mail" the OE replacement. They have moved away from database based (pst/dbx) mail stores and now just dump raw EML files in directories (THANK YOU!!). Its also quite a bit faster than oe and sending and recieving mail. Infact if there was a standalone version, I would probably consider running it on my home machine. It even has a calander so I could finaly move people away from outlook. There is no way we would deploy it across the organization, but its nice to know in 5 years we wont have to have outlook on the machines.
If you fix computers, you will have to learn it eventually. Theres no use delaying the inevitable.
Whatever you do, don't send them to fields data recovery. Thats possibly the worst company Ive ever delt with. 3 months and they still havent returned the drives that were supposed to take 48 hours to process. Also their "free return" we had to pay $45 for. And on top of it all, they didnt actually recover any data!
fucking wankers. I think ill call and yell at them again.
They are perfectly free to lock up their content in a vault and never release it. This will of course hurt them even more financially, but hopefully they will die either way. That way we will have more pure pwnage and less everybody loves repub- uhh... raymond.
I am a new player, and obviously dont have the damage history behind this, but doesn't it follow that there is never just "a bit" of corruption? Power corrupts, so who knows what has been going on behind closed doors for bob? How long was this guy with the corp anyway? 03? 04? Who knows what other intel or help they got. As I understand it, devs can evesdrop any channel and teleport to any system.
Its not worth quitting over, but I am sure if I had more invested into the game, had faught and lost to bob, id be tempted.
Personally, I hope theres some sort of anti-bob alliance that develops to completely crush all of their systems. Thats should be the correct vigilante response. If the government (ccp) wont take them down, then the players have to. The great thing about eve is that its possible for this to happen.
"And the person that did it, which I know really well, he doesn't understand himself, it just doesn't make any sense."
What kind of bullshit is that now? He doesnt understand that he gave some of the rarest items in the game to his corporation? Or he doesnt understand how his corporation was subverted to make that all public. Perhaps he doesnt understand why developer cheating is the worst kind of wrong?
What a statement. Maybe he should take a month long holiday to "find himself". Hes certainly the one WORST affected by this scandal isnt he. The only thing that doesnt make sense is that this guy still has his job.
And zonk, please, pauses in speech do not warrant a literal "ahh" translation. English probably isn't this guys first language, or he is merely pausing to compose his thoughts.
I agree in part. I biked to work and it was just as you describe. Sitting in sweaty clothes all day = not fun. Cars are much better to travel around in. I do however disagee with "some people are fat". Some people want to be fat yes, but anyone can be fit. I just go to the gym a 2 or 3 times a week for about an hour. Sure I lose an hour of videogame time, but I feel alot better. Exercising helps your mind as well as your body.
People were made to exercise. Taking the past 2000 years and saying humanity has always been like this, doesnt take into account the larger picture. For 40000 years before that, we were hunters running around all day. Even my closest ancestors were all farmers, not aristocrats hedonistically consuming grapes on a chaise lounge.
You know your math is great and all that, but I had a similar issue when I first moved out on my own. I ate primarily ramen bowls, the dried ones you can buy for a dollar, and I gained massive amounts of weight. I actually thought that I was being low fat till they started printing nutrition labels on them. Those suckers have like 30-40grammes of fat and 60-100 of carbs. Plus all the salt you will never need. They are very unhealthy to eat and I tell everyone I see eating one this very same story. So I don't think the grand parent was that far off the base.
Well you know in all those hacker movies that are like "hes routing through russia" and they trace the "hops" down till they localize it to a house? Bunch of proxies my friend.
"We see all kinds of stuff in games that would normally have an ad on it in real life"
So, in real life, ads are everywhere. With no debate as to whether or not this is desireable, you have concluded that the practice should naturally be ported to games.
Hows this for a compromise: Less ads in real life, to bring them down to an ingame level.
"Yes it could be very easily overdone and become invasive"
This looks interesting. I can only hope someone ports the giant penis attack from second life.
A public chat room of console users? With interactive objects and importable pictures and video? Man, thats gonna be nothing but porn, goatse and 13 year olds screaming racist obsceneties! Should be hilarious for the first week or so, especially if its unmodderated. Can you even imagine? 10 000 12 year olds all vying for attention.. Man I just gotta see the cess pool of prepubescent circus freaks that it would create. It's the same feeling I would get from watching car accidents I think.
I predict that this will be a huge hit. People love playing with dolls. Its vanity. I have this friend who plays ps2 basically all day (unemployed). He likes things like dressing up his characters in gta, picking the perfect paint scheme for a car, and he likes showing that shit off. This service is going to be HUGE, and will quite possibly save the console.
So you take a technical flaw in the ipod, and argue that the car should be have a propritary interface further locking you into that flawed platform. Brilliant!
(I have many similar complaints with the ipod, but have simply decided not to buy another one)
"these gadgets were left to the people that know how to use them well?"
Huh? are you arguing that rich people inherently understand technology better?
"i remember back when i was the only person anyone knew with an 1/8" stereo input on the face of my cd/mp3-cd capable deck. now every joe and his grandma will have them, even though most won't use them."
Cars with standard inputs for audio? OH THE HUMANITY!
Are you saying you've never had a friends car, or a rental, and the desire to listen to something off your mp3 player? You are arguing that you should only have access to things that by all rights, should have been standard on cars since the 90s? So you can look nerdier?
"most cannucks hate the yank POLITICIANS not the people"
You can still treat someone respectfully and hate them. Perhaps that is what you encountered. In my opinion most canadians realize that THE PEOPLE of the usa ELECTED the government, and are infact responsible for it.
Its amazing to me that all americans can throw up their hands and say "its not me! its the government I tells ya!", while the government was infact elected by those same people. Furthermore, that same corrupt evil government is still in power, which I can only interpret as tacit support of them and their policies.
"Never mind the fact that some of the components you ordered are OEM, meaning they have no warranty"
You are either incredibly ignorant or willfully spreading disinformation. OEM does not mean "no warranty".
I will agree, I would much perfer the dell (assuming the shipping wasnt obscene). But such an underpowered computer would be like an office machine, or email/web machine for the home. It is hardly what I would consider anywhere near a decent machine. Decent machines can pretty much only be built piecemeal. The best solution here is to support your local economy and buy from a small privately owned computer shop. Sure you might pay a little more, but it beats sending your computer half way around the world (or country) when you have issues.
Thats fair, but if you pull a bad drive, ghost it (assuming its not THAT bad), plop the new drive in, and the system works flawlessly, what are you to assume?
I dont really care to know exactly what is wrong with the drive. If i replace it, and the problem goes away, I would consdier that a bad drive. Even if you could still read and write to it. I just did one this morning that showed no symptoms other than windows taking what I considered a long time, to boot. All the user complained about was sluggish performance, and there were no errors or drive noises to speak of. Problem fixed, user happy, drive bad.
As I already posted, a good rule of thumb is 3 years from the date of manufacture, is when most drives go bad.
A good rule of thumb is 3 years. Most hard drives fail in 3 years. I dont know why, but im currently seeing alot of bad 2004 branded drives and consider that right on schedule. Last year the 02-03 drives were the ones failing left and right. I just pulled one this morning thats stamped march 04. Just started acting up a few days ago. Like clockwork.
"(especially if you believe, as many do, that humans are innately nice and only do bad things because they're taught to"
You are taught to be bad, but you aren't taught to be good? wha??
Good and bad are moral positions, I would argue COMPLETELY learned. There is nothing innate in being nice or nasty. Why don't we eat other human beings? Societally bad. Why do we hold the door for other people? societally good. What if society one day decided that holding doors shows a sign of weakness? Or take the klingons, where warlike behaviour is a sign of strength and is to be encouraged.
Another example I just remembered, the difference between germany and africa. In germany, you are encouraged to stare people in the eye when you are addressing them. This is a sign of respect. In africa, its a sign of aggression and a challenge to do that. ( i forget where I heard that example, may not be true)
The point is that "good" and "bad" are constructs of society -- your environment.
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This seems to be the popular sentiment, but you will have to eventually. The CIO of my company decides to install vista on his machine. I am responsible for backing up, virus scanning, etc. I took a look at vista and was completely lost. At that moment I knew that if I didnt want to play the fool, I'd better learn this shit. Its an alien feeling to me to sit infront of a machine at work and not instantly know how to do everything. I didn't like that feeling.
I didnt do anything crazy like install it at home (2k 4ever), but I did install it on my main work pc. To tell you the truth, aside from the fact that there are no drivers and many programs no longer work, its not that different from xp. You have to turn all the crap off, change the folders back to classic, etc. After that it pretty much operates like winxp and win2k. Is it worth upgrading a working XP copy? Hell no! Is it worth learning about so that your comfortable? Hell yes.
If you had asked me a month ago if I planned to move to vista I would have laughed circles around you. Well m$ wins again i suppose. Its not all bad though. I rather enjoy "windows mail" the OE replacement. They have moved away from database based (pst/dbx) mail stores and now just dump raw EML files in directories (THANK YOU!!). Its also quite a bit faster than oe and sending and recieving mail. Infact if there was a standalone version, I would probably consider running it on my home machine. It even has a calander so I could finaly move people away from outlook. There is no way we would deploy it across the organization, but its nice to know in 5 years we wont have to have outlook on the machines.
If you fix computers, you will have to learn it eventually. Theres no use delaying the inevitable.
Whatever you do, don't send them to fields data recovery. Thats possibly the worst company Ive ever delt with. 3 months and they still havent returned the drives that were supposed to take 48 hours to process. Also their "free return" we had to pay $45 for. And on top of it all, they didnt actually recover any data!
fucking wankers. I think ill call and yell at them again.
They are perfectly free to lock up their content in a vault and never release it. This will of course hurt them even more financially, but hopefully they will die either way. That way we will have more pure pwnage and less everybody loves repub- uhh... raymond.
I am a new player, and obviously dont have the damage history behind this, but doesn't it follow that there is never just "a bit" of corruption? Power corrupts, so who knows what has been going on behind closed doors for bob? How long was this guy with the corp anyway? 03? 04? Who knows what other intel or help they got. As I understand it, devs can evesdrop any channel and teleport to any system.
Its not worth quitting over, but I am sure if I had more invested into the game, had faught and lost to bob, id be tempted.
Personally, I hope theres some sort of anti-bob alliance that develops to completely crush all of their systems. Thats should be the correct vigilante response. If the government (ccp) wont take them down, then the players have to. The great thing about eve is that its possible for this to happen.
Or just alot of mud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidoarjo_mud_flow
What a statement. Maybe he should take a month long holiday to "find himself". Hes certainly the one WORST affected by this scandal isnt he. The only thing that doesnt make sense is that this guy still has his job.
And zonk, please, pauses in speech do not warrant a literal "ahh" translation. English probably isn't this guys first language, or he is merely pausing to compose his thoughts.
I agree in part. I biked to work and it was just as you describe. Sitting in sweaty clothes all day = not fun. Cars are much better to travel around in. I do however disagee with "some people are fat". Some people want to be fat yes, but anyone can be fit. I just go to the gym a 2 or 3 times a week for about an hour. Sure I lose an hour of videogame time, but I feel alot better. Exercising helps your mind as well as your body.
People were made to exercise. Taking the past 2000 years and saying humanity has always been like this, doesnt take into account the larger picture. For 40000 years before that, we were hunters running around all day. Even my closest ancestors were all farmers, not aristocrats hedonistically consuming grapes on a chaise lounge.
You know your math is great and all that, but I had a similar issue when I first moved out on my own. I ate primarily ramen bowls, the dried ones you can buy for a dollar, and I gained massive amounts of weight. I actually thought that I was being low fat till they started printing nutrition labels on them. Those suckers have like 30-40grammes of fat and 60-100 of carbs. Plus all the salt you will never need. They are very unhealthy to eat and I tell everyone I see eating one this very same story. So I don't think the grand parent was that far off the base.
Well you know in all those hacker movies that are like "hes routing through russia" and they trace the "hops" down till they localize it to a house? Bunch of proxies my friend.
What a useless post. You don't have to post if you have absolutely nothing to contribute.
Hows this for a compromise: Less ads in real life, to bring them down to an ingame level.
Could be? Thats the entire POINT of advertising!
This looks interesting. I can only hope someone ports the giant penis attack from second life.
A public chat room of console users? With interactive objects and importable pictures and video? Man, thats gonna be nothing but porn, goatse and 13 year olds screaming racist obsceneties! Should be hilarious for the first week or so, especially if its unmodderated. Can you even imagine? 10 000 12 year olds all vying for attention.. Man I just gotta see the cess pool of prepubescent circus freaks that it would create. It's the same feeling I would get from watching car accidents I think.
I predict that this will be a huge hit. People love playing with dolls. Its vanity. I have this friend who plays ps2 basically all day (unemployed). He likes things like dressing up his characters in gta, picking the perfect paint scheme for a car, and he likes showing that shit off. This service is going to be HUGE, and will quite possibly save the console.
So you take a technical flaw in the ipod, and argue that the car should be have a propritary interface further locking you into that flawed platform. Brilliant!
(I have many similar complaints with the ipod, but have simply decided not to buy another one)
Cars with standard inputs for audio? OH THE HUMANITY!
Are you saying you've never had a friends car, or a rental, and the desire to listen to something off your mp3 player? You are arguing that you should only have access to things that by all rights, should have been standard on cars since the 90s? So you can look nerdier?
The common man deserves basic leetness.
Its amazing to me that all americans can throw up their hands and say "its not me! its the government I tells ya!", while the government was infact elected by those same people. Furthermore, that same corrupt evil government is still in power, which I can only interpret as tacit support of them and their policies.
You cant spring back thats retarded.
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Oh I see you have realized this point as well.
Computers have never been easier to put together.
I will agree, I would much perfer the dell (assuming the shipping wasnt obscene). But such an underpowered computer would be like an office machine, or email/web machine for the home. It is hardly what I would consider anywhere near a decent machine. Decent machines can pretty much only be built piecemeal. The best solution here is to support your local economy and buy from a small privately owned computer shop. Sure you might pay a little more, but it beats sending your computer half way around the world (or country) when you have issues.
You mean like this? http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
Its a bar graph but its been online for a long ass time. I used it back when I use to play wow.
When I toss electronics in the trash, I like to think im helping future archologists by giving them one more specimen to study.
Thats fair, but if you pull a bad drive, ghost it (assuming its not THAT bad), plop the new drive in, and the system works flawlessly, what are you to assume?
I dont really care to know exactly what is wrong with the drive. If i replace it, and the problem goes away, I would consdier that a bad drive. Even if you could still read and write to it. I just did one this morning that showed no symptoms other than windows taking what I considered a long time, to boot. All the user complained about was sluggish performance, and there were no errors or drive noises to speak of. Problem fixed, user happy, drive bad.
As I already posted, a good rule of thumb is 3 years from the date of manufacture, is when most drives go bad.
A good rule of thumb is 3 years. Most hard drives fail in 3 years. I dont know why, but im currently seeing alot of bad 2004 branded drives and consider that right on schedule. Last year the 02-03 drives were the ones failing left and right. I just pulled one this morning thats stamped march 04. Just started acting up a few days ago. Like clockwork.
Do you really think people can be born bad?
Good and bad are moral positions, I would argue COMPLETELY learned. There is nothing innate in being nice or nasty. Why don't we eat other human beings? Societally bad. Why do we hold the door for other people? societally good. What if society one day decided that holding doors shows a sign of weakness? Or take the klingons, where warlike behaviour is a sign of strength and is to be encouraged.
Another example I just remembered, the difference between germany and africa. In germany, you are encouraged to stare people in the eye when you are addressing them. This is a sign of respect. In africa, its a sign of aggression and a challenge to do that. ( i forget where I heard that example, may not be true)
The point is that "good" and "bad" are constructs of society -- your environment.