That would happen if it was a private company, in this case CSUC is run by the state, and exempt from any such laws that would make them care. The state makes the laws and runs these "businesses" they call schools, and often they get lax washing eachothers backs until something like this happens, they will put on a show like it is fixed, and tomorrow someone will hack it again. And yes, I go to CSUC, there is a reason we are always drunk...
They haven't implemented it yet... I got to school there and give everyone a load of shit every time they ask for my SSN, but the state law that says you can't use the SSN doesn't apply to govt agencies (how nice of them to do that for themselves). They have this new system in the plans, but I will probably die before it works.
Clinton shut off the selective availability on the civilian channels. SA was just the ability to adjust the accuracy of the signal timing, and was changed randomly so you could not count on being exactly right all the time.
DGPS then started to improve navigation for shipping, and WAAS works on the same idea (but different way of going about it) and is a secondary system to that which corrects for small errors in the true location of the satellites compared to what the almanac says their location is.
And from my understanding, they can adjust the accuracy of an area, not the whole system. If they want to put a certain area in the dark (say: Iraq), the satellites over that area stop transmitting, but everyone on the other side of the world still gets their data and location. The military GPS signals, encrypted and higher power, would probably stay on over the affected region, as they would probably be the cause of the blackout.
There is the slight problem that VOR's are being phased out and ones in remote areas are no longer repaired if they go silent. While there currently are probably enough running to act as proper navaids should GPS fail completely, we continue to rely more and more on the convenient GPS system and let the backups fall into darkness. At least most of the ATR's still have AM Radio DF equipment onboard, lets the captain listen to Rush while finding his way to the next large city.
Then your gadget doesn't see it and your laptop does. But just because the gadget is small doesn't mean it has worse receive capabilities... an antenna and internal components can be as big as a house but still be crap.
I was on the river that day and when you consider there were about 20,000+ tubers on the water, with all that congestion its amazing there weren't more rescues, or worse (recovery). People don't realize sitting in 50 degree water all day and drinking lowers your responce time and muscle capabilities, then when their raft hits a strainer they get stuck, sucked under, and have no way of overpowering the river's force to get themselves out. One source of most the rescues was a home-made barge that got strained right in the middle of the main channel on a log, and people were pulled under the barge as they kept moving with the river's current. In about 5 minutes it took us to free the barge we pulled around 30 people out from under it. Our own rescuers went into the water and performed contact rescues on most people, which (contrary to Hollywood) is the most dangerous and least-used style of water rescue. It was an exciting day;)
I also recomend the new 406MHz PLB's, but PLEASE PLEASE get one with a *good* GPS built in. The 406MHz PLB has to go through the same doppler-shift tracking as the 121.5 ELT's if there is no GPS data with the signal, and the AFRCC will wait until that narrowed-down data has come in before notifying the agency having authority.
The 121.5 and 243 MHz (ELT) signals are the original frequencies detected by the international COSPAS-SARSAT system. The 406MHz (PLB) system is *VERY* new, it just got the OK for use in the continential US last July. The US Air Force Rescue Coordination Center right now oversees the monitoring for the signals, and when the AFRCC detect an activation they notify the emergency services management agency of the state that contains the activation. Without a GPS-enabled 406MHz ELT beacon it can takes several hours for doppler shifting to narrow down the location of the victim to a relativly small area (small enough to begin a wide-area search), and once the more specific location is known the local Search & Rescue agency having authority is activated.
Currently the 121.5/243MHz COSPAS-SARSAT system gets so many false alarms every day that teams do not respond rapidly to their calls. The San Diego Coast Guard Group has about 10 ELT's to investigate *every day* with nearly every single one an accidental activation. If there was one system I could use right now it would be a 406MHz PLB with GPS enabled. Because of the requirement to register your PLB and the serial number transmitted with the distress signal, instead of just a AM warble as on the 121.5/243MHz system, people are less likly going to set them off "just to test them" and are more likly to get in trouble if they do.
I am not sure if you have ever listened to marine radio near an ocean, but just from my time near the water and listening in, the US Coast Guard has about 10 ELT (121.5MHz) distress signal activations per day, per Coast Guard Group (IE, San Diego Group, Los Angeles Group, etc). They send someone to investigate each one, eventually, and they are all nearly accidental or malicous trips, not real emergencies. It has almost reached the point of too many cries of wolf.
I don't follow CalTrans much, and where I live they still use the lowband so the local guys wouldn't even know. The move to 700 is driven mostly by the fact that there is no more room anywhere else. CHP wants their system statewide and there is no possible way right now for them to get a statewide system working in 800, it would have to be a huge mix of local systems. If they are the first to jump on 700 they will have the pick of the frequencies, and will be able to allocate a chunk for statewide use (much like CDF got a nice chunk of VHF freqs for statewide fire use, and will never give them up).
CHP is still all over 39 and 42MHz as their primary dispatch frequencies. It really works well for the mountains around the Tahoe area. They have plans to install a state-wide 700MHz (once the FCC clears it of TV) trunking system. But, as it is gov't and currently run by Arnold, who knows what my great state will actually end up doing.
Also, CalTrans has a new 800MHz trunking system all over the state, but they kept their lowband system up and running because in many places it still works better than the new fancy one.
Where I live, when there isn't a disaster going on, the county has about 5-10% cell coverage. Even in the largest city in the county if you are indoors normally your cell will barely work, if at all. Most residential areas (outside the one large city) have no cell coverage, along with most the travel routes, save the one large state highway running through the middle. I have 3mbit DSL but can't use a cell in my house.
Cell phones are not a complete answer, and in my case, a very poor one. When I lived in San Diego I could use a cell phone anywhere I went, since moving North I have gotten an amateur radio license because the amateur repeaters around the county cover about 95% of the ENTIRE county, not just the populated areas.
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Whatever dog you speak of must have not been very well trained. If you have ever spent much time with a "working dog" it is amazing what the well trained ones can do. In my Search & Rescue unit we have many dogs that can scent discriminate off a scent article and follow that scent trail only in a world of people. They also have different reactions to a live person, a live person matching the scent article, a dead person, a dead person matching the scent article, and a well-trained handler and dog can work very effectivly. I am not a dog handler, but work closely with them on searches, and it is amazing watching them work.
I just tried shareaza and its BT client was crap, like previously stated. You may get things in decent time with it, but try a real client and you will have them in astonishing time.
I have added several topics as well as updated others in relation to emergency services. I find my weird mix of Comp Sci major and hobby of Search & Rescue allows me to be an expert (certified even) in all types of rescue and related equipment. Most poeple that work in emergency services fields aren't going to be big enough into tech to be offering info to the wiki, as I have noticed a lot of miss-information in these entries and have done my part to make it right. For example: Fire Engines and Fire Trucks are different types of vehicles, even if the Wikipedia said they were the same at one time.
It can work well, but sometimes I think there is just a little too much tech stuff and not enough general info, but thats just the nature of the delivery format.
Bang on the head with the news issue. Because of my other hobby, I am often on the news-making end of the reporters. About half the time I wonder if the story in the paper the next day is of the same incident I was at, because it rarely matches up, even for large facts like the most recent: "they used a helicopter to assist in the recovery" when in reality there was no helicopter anywhere near the scene. But all the people sitting at home reading the papers have no way of knowing the reporter wrote nothing that actually happened, quoted people as saying things they never did, and generally just didn't do very well at their job. Wikipedia is just easier for someone to create, but also catch, the mistakes.
I second that, Threads was probably one of the most powerful movies I have ever seen. My father has a video-taped copy of it, Fox aired it unedited many many years ago. If you can find it, give it a watch. Just don't plan to sleep for a few nights.
Sometimes my keyless entry is jammed and even getting under the hood with it doesn't open it up. I can open the car with my key but then the alarm goes off, and the only way to reset the alarm is with the (jammed) keyless entry or punch in the damn numbers on the side panel. It happens so rarely that I always forget the numbers, but I just about have the pattern memorized with my thumb. Meanwhile I am pissing everyone off as my alarm rings and I smash the buttons on the side of my car until it stops.
I guess living in San Diego does have a downside... Miramar, North Island, Pendleton, and who knows what else floating around at sea.
Up there in EN-62 that might work, but CM-99 being in litigous CA we probably couldn't build our own system, as it wouldn't pass all the privacy and other stupid regulations and certifications. Being a university doesn't mean they do things smart, it is still run by the State, which currently is being driven by the Govonator.
Someone tried to make a database as a Sr. project that needed some sort of info from the official enrolled student database, I forget exactly what but it wasn't even anything specific, just the number of students enrolled in each college or major, but they wouldn't release it because of privacy concerns. I stopped trying to figure out why they do things and just accept it as a government agency and change will take 20 years. This portal that was bought by the state for every CSU in the system (29 campuses) I have heard is the worst portal system there is on the market. But hey, we got it cheap!
My university has a stupid portal that requires IE. I send them emails, they say this is the portal they bought and there is no money to buy another (it is CA). So, for that site I am forced to use IE or not get my homework. Sometimes you actually just have to take the chance I guess, even with the overlords saying terror will come from my (limited) IE use.
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Because it will take call centers with trained people able to help morons undamage their computer. And from the number of compramised computers, it would take a WHOLE LOT of call centers and trained people to undo what the morons have done to themselves. That would cost way more than if the ISP just pretended not to see it and kept collecting the checks.
Then there is the liability if they do it wrong and destroy more data on the computer of said moron user. It is just a whole mess that would not get the ISP anything but more phone calls, which is what they like to avoid.
Not sure why you got a redundant on this, but they say it will bring along all the redundancy of multiple rovers with one base. I fail to see how one base is as redundant as multple rovers. If your one base dies its dead. If you build a static base and let rovers out and they crash who cares, your base and people are okay and you can still send out more rovers.
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That would happen if it was a private company, in this case CSUC is run by the state, and exempt from any such laws that would make them care. The state makes the laws and runs these "businesses" they call schools, and often they get lax washing eachothers backs until something like this happens, they will put on a show like it is fixed, and tomorrow someone will hack it again. And yes, I go to CSUC, there is a reason we are always drunk...
They haven't implemented it yet... I got to school there and give everyone a load of shit every time they ask for my SSN, but the state law that says you can't use the SSN doesn't apply to govt agencies (how nice of them to do that for themselves). They have this new system in the plans, but I will probably die before it works.
Only if it then runs for 8 days on 1 days worth of power.
Clinton shut off the selective availability on the civilian channels. SA was just the ability to adjust the accuracy of the signal timing, and was changed randomly so you could not count on being exactly right all the time.
DGPS then started to improve navigation for shipping, and WAAS works on the same idea (but different way of going about it) and is a secondary system to that which corrects for small errors in the true location of the satellites compared to what the almanac says their location is.
And from my understanding, they can adjust the accuracy of an area, not the whole system. If they want to put a certain area in the dark (say: Iraq), the satellites over that area stop transmitting, but everyone on the other side of the world still gets their data and location. The military GPS signals, encrypted and higher power, would probably stay on over the affected region, as they would probably be the cause of the blackout.
There is the slight problem that VOR's are being phased out and ones in remote areas are no longer repaired if they go silent. While there currently are probably enough running to act as proper navaids should GPS fail completely, we continue to rely more and more on the convenient GPS system and let the backups fall into darkness. At least most of the ATR's still have AM Radio DF equipment onboard, lets the captain listen to Rush while finding his way to the next large city.
Then your gadget doesn't see it and your laptop does. But just because the gadget is small doesn't mean it has worse receive capabilities... an antenna and internal components can be as big as a house but still be crap.
Are they trying to shoot themselves in the head by using HTTPS?
I would go for a coffee pot/snack machine bounce myself, and just hope for good propigation.
I was on the river that day and when you consider there were about 20,000+ tubers on the water, with all that congestion its amazing there weren't more rescues, or worse (recovery). People don't realize sitting in 50 degree water all day and drinking lowers your responce time and muscle capabilities, then when their raft hits a strainer they get stuck, sucked under, and have no way of overpowering the river's force to get themselves out. One source of most the rescues was a home-made barge that got strained right in the middle of the main channel on a log, and people were pulled under the barge as they kept moving with the river's current. In about 5 minutes it took us to free the barge we pulled around 30 people out from under it. Our own rescuers went into the water and performed contact rescues on most people, which (contrary to Hollywood) is the most dangerous and least-used style of water rescue. It was an exciting day ;)
I also recomend the new 406MHz PLB's, but PLEASE PLEASE get one with a *good* GPS built in. The 406MHz PLB has to go through the same doppler-shift tracking as the 121.5 ELT's if there is no GPS data with the signal, and the AFRCC will wait until that narrowed-down data has come in before notifying the agency having authority.
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And most the time we don't wait until daybreak, we like the challenge
Nick
Butte County Search & Rescue
The 121.5 and 243 MHz (ELT) signals are the original frequencies detected by the international COSPAS-SARSAT system. The 406MHz (PLB) system is *VERY* new, it just got the OK for use in the continential US last July. The US Air Force Rescue Coordination Center right now oversees the monitoring for the signals, and when the AFRCC detect an activation they notify the emergency services management agency of the state that contains the activation. Without a GPS-enabled 406MHz ELT beacon it can takes several hours for doppler shifting to narrow down the location of the victim to a relativly small area (small enough to begin a wide-area search), and once the more specific location is known the local Search & Rescue agency having authority is activated.
Currently the 121.5/243MHz COSPAS-SARSAT system gets so many false alarms every day that teams do not respond rapidly to their calls. The San Diego Coast Guard Group has about 10 ELT's to investigate *every day* with nearly every single one an accidental activation. If there was one system I could use right now it would be a 406MHz PLB with GPS enabled. Because of the requirement to register your PLB and the serial number transmitted with the distress signal, instead of just a AM warble as on the 121.5/243MHz system, people are less likly going to set them off "just to test them" and are more likly to get in trouble if they do.
Nick
Butte County Search & Rescue
I am not sure if you have ever listened to marine radio near an ocean, but just from my time near the water and listening in, the US Coast Guard has about 10 ELT (121.5MHz) distress signal activations per day, per Coast Guard Group (IE, San Diego Group, Los Angeles Group, etc). They send someone to investigate each one, eventually, and they are all nearly accidental or malicous trips, not real emergencies. It has almost reached the point of too many cries of wolf.
Nick
Butte County Search & Rescue
I don't follow CalTrans much, and where I live they still use the lowband so the local guys wouldn't even know. The move to 700 is driven mostly by the fact that there is no more room anywhere else. CHP wants their system statewide and there is no possible way right now for them to get a statewide system working in 800, it would have to be a huge mix of local systems. If they are the first to jump on 700 they will have the pick of the frequencies, and will be able to allocate a chunk for statewide use (much like CDF got a nice chunk of VHF freqs for statewide fire use, and will never give them up).
CHP is still all over 39 and 42MHz as their primary dispatch frequencies. It really works well for the mountains around the Tahoe area. They have plans to install a state-wide 700MHz (once the FCC clears it of TV) trunking system. But, as it is gov't and currently run by Arnold, who knows what my great state will actually end up doing.
Also, CalTrans has a new 800MHz trunking system all over the state, but they kept their lowband system up and running because in many places it still works better than the new fancy one.
KG6NMP
Where I live, when there isn't a disaster going on, the county has about 5-10% cell coverage. Even in the largest city in the county if you are indoors normally your cell will barely work, if at all. Most residential areas (outside the one large city) have no cell coverage, along with most the travel routes, save the one large state highway running through the middle. I have 3mbit DSL but can't use a cell in my house.
Cell phones are not a complete answer, and in my case, a very poor one. When I lived in San Diego I could use a cell phone anywhere I went, since moving North I have gotten an amateur radio license because the amateur repeaters around the county cover about 95% of the ENTIRE county, not just the populated areas.
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Whatever dog you speak of must have not been very well trained. If you have ever spent much time with a "working dog" it is amazing what the well trained ones can do. In my Search & Rescue unit we have many dogs that can scent discriminate off a scent article and follow that scent trail only in a world of people. They also have different reactions to a live person, a live person matching the scent article, a dead person, a dead person matching the scent article, and a well-trained handler and dog can work very effectivly. I am not a dog handler, but work closely with them on searches, and it is amazing watching them work.
I just tried shareaza and its BT client was crap, like previously stated. You may get things in decent time with it, but try a real client and you will have them in astonishing time.
I have added several topics as well as updated others in relation to emergency services. I find my weird mix of Comp Sci major and hobby of Search & Rescue allows me to be an expert (certified even) in all types of rescue and related equipment. Most poeple that work in emergency services fields aren't going to be big enough into tech to be offering info to the wiki, as I have noticed a lot of miss-information in these entries and have done my part to make it right. For example: Fire Engines and Fire Trucks are different types of vehicles, even if the Wikipedia said they were the same at one time.
It can work well, but sometimes I think there is just a little too much tech stuff and not enough general info, but thats just the nature of the delivery format.
Bang on the head with the news issue. Because of my other hobby, I am often on the news-making end of the reporters. About half the time I wonder if the story in the paper the next day is of the same incident I was at, because it rarely matches up, even for large facts like the most recent: "they used a helicopter to assist in the recovery" when in reality there was no helicopter anywhere near the scene. But all the people sitting at home reading the papers have no way of knowing the reporter wrote nothing that actually happened, quoted people as saying things they never did, and generally just didn't do very well at their job. Wikipedia is just easier for someone to create, but also catch, the mistakes.
I second that, Threads was probably one of the most powerful movies I have ever seen. My father has a video-taped copy of it, Fox aired it unedited many many years ago. If you can find it, give it a watch. Just don't plan to sleep for a few nights.
Sometimes my keyless entry is jammed and even getting under the hood with it doesn't open it up. I can open the car with my key but then the alarm goes off, and the only way to reset the alarm is with the (jammed) keyless entry or punch in the damn numbers on the side panel. It happens so rarely that I always forget the numbers, but I just about have the pattern memorized with my thumb. Meanwhile I am pissing everyone off as my alarm rings and I smash the buttons on the side of my car until it stops.
I guess living in San Diego does have a downside... Miramar, North Island, Pendleton, and who knows what else floating around at sea.
Up there in EN-62 that might work, but CM-99 being in litigous CA we probably couldn't build our own system, as it wouldn't pass all the privacy and other stupid regulations and certifications. Being a university doesn't mean they do things smart, it is still run by the State, which currently is being driven by the Govonator.
Someone tried to make a database as a Sr. project that needed some sort of info from the official enrolled student database, I forget exactly what but it wasn't even anything specific, just the number of students enrolled in each college or major, but they wouldn't release it because of privacy concerns. I stopped trying to figure out why they do things and just accept it as a government agency and change will take 20 years. This portal that was bought by the state for every CSU in the system (29 campuses) I have heard is the worst portal system there is on the market. But hey, we got it cheap!
My university has a stupid portal that requires IE. I send them emails, they say this is the portal they bought and there is no money to buy another (it is CA). So, for that site I am forced to use IE or not get my homework. Sometimes you actually just have to take the chance I guess, even with the overlords saying terror will come from my (limited) IE use. KG6NMP
Because it will take call centers with trained people able to help morons undamage their computer. And from the number of compramised computers, it would take a WHOLE LOT of call centers and trained people to undo what the morons have done to themselves. That would cost way more than if the ISP just pretended not to see it and kept collecting the checks.
Then there is the liability if they do it wrong and destroy more data on the computer of said moron user. It is just a whole mess that would not get the ISP anything but more phone calls, which is what they like to avoid.
Not sure why you got a redundant on this, but they say it will bring along all the redundancy of multiple rovers with one base. I fail to see how one base is as redundant as multple rovers. If your one base dies its dead. If you build a static base and let rovers out and they crash who cares, your base and people are okay and you can still send out more rovers.