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Upgrade Your Dog

ptorrone writes "Engadget has glimpse in to the future, a future where your dog has a cell phone, webcam and electronic tag, and maybe even talks to you. Maybe. Some of this dog-tech isn't available yet, and some of it is (in Japan, of course). The overview includes some interesting iterations of pet technology, and they even made their own version of a dog webcam along with the first ever canine photographer's photo gallery." I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

296 comments

  1. Which distro? by nxtr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Yellow Dog Linux, maybe?

    1. Re:Which distro? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, probably something simpler like MS-DOGS. /window seat please

    2. Re:Which distro? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simpler is better, especially for people like this guy:

      http://thx.typepad.com/advthxance/

    3. Re:Which distro? by PacoTaco · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nah, probably something simpler like MS-DOGS.

      If you think about it, dogs are basically just interrupt handlers with the ability to respond to a few simple commands.

    4. Re:Which distro? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a better distro should be Slashdog. It bring news to you !

    5. Re:Which distro? by Da+Twink+Daddy · · Score: 1
      /window seat please

      Hmm, isn't the /<comment> thing a fark.com thing?

      /never seen it on /.

    6. Re:Which distro? by Joey7F · · Score: 1

      Except that it would keep bringing the same story to you just spaced hours apart and the entire family would complain about the it.

      --Joey

    7. Re:Which distro? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I think it's inevitable that the cultures of /. and fark will merge.

    8. Re:Which distro? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1
      Heh...

      Just imagine a dog's webcam photo album.

      Lots of shots of other dogs' bottoms or undercarriage. Yay.

      I guess some people just can't leave well enough alone...

    9. Re:Which distro? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your dog wants synergy?

    10. Re:Which distro? by visgoth · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our /fark or fark. overlords!

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    11. Re:Which distro? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, do you come from the land of the rising pun? Do your women groan and make thunder. Do you hear the land down under? You better run, you better take cover...hehehe

      semi-digression:

      How many distros have dog in them? Any with "cat"? It better be good or it would be labelled "The Shitty Kitty" (like the CV named Kitty Hawk was nicked "The Shitty Kitty"; CV Ranger was "The Danger Ranger"; CV Forrestal was "USS Forest Fire";

      Return:

      Do these dogs "excrete" "digital shit"? It would be good master training to have to clean it up. After all, some of Catz and Dogz knockoffs train kids to love and care for their digital Petz. Digi-shit and digi-puke are not a far stretch, and could be less distasteful than headshots and limb rips in FPSs

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  2. Disposible by acxr+is+wasted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, every few years, when you upgrade your dog, you can use some parts from your previous dog, and sell the rest on ebay.

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    1. Re:Disposible by master0ne · · Score: 1

      yeah but dog part value really depreciates once it has met its Dog Equivelant At The House. The market for those parts usualy only resides in 3rd world countries not willing to pay high American Expenceses

      In Soviet Russia, your dog OWNS YOU!

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    2. Re:Disposible by BluBrick · · Score: 1
      In Soviet Russia, your dog OWNS YOU!

      In Soviet Russia, cat owns you! (Just like in Ascension Island, Andorra, UAE, Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, ...goslavia, South Africa, Zambia and Zimbabwe )

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    3. Re:Disposible by BlueJay465 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot one,

      Imagine a beowulf cluster of yellow dogs?

      Well, think about it....

    4. Re:Disposible by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

      IN SOVIET RUSSIA, trolling commences YOU!

    5. Re:Disposible by Antihero77 · · Score: 1

      It'd be...

      101 Yellow Dogs.

      And less we forget...

      102 Yellow Dogs, Gates' Revenge.

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    6. Re:Disposible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iditarod? Or, in this case, iDatarod?

  3. What's wrong with normal pets? by neuro.slug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like dogs because they're lovable, cute, loyal, and a pleasure to be around. Not because they're functional. Those Japanese will never learn...

    1. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some dogs are functional though. "Seeing Eye" dogs, drug sniffing dogs, bomb detection dogs, dogs to seek out victims in structural collapses, dogs that find people in avalanche areas, and the like. Personally, I'd like it if the technology could evolve to where the dog could actually indicate if it found drugs or if it found something that it wanted to eat or have sex with, instead of leaving that up to the dog's wrangler. Many a canine officer has claimed that someone had drugs in a backpack or whatnot at some point because the dog wouldn't leave a backpack alone, while there was probably just a candy bar in there or something. For myself, if I had a dog at all I'd just want a fairly mild-tempered, easy going, no-frills, housebroken dog.

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    2. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by acxr+is+wasted · · Score: 5, Informative

      I like dogs because they're lovable, cute, loyal, and a pleasure to be around. ... Those Japanese will never learn...

      Apparently, Japanese women agree with you.

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    3. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by nitrocloud · · Score: 0

      What about the "Go get my beer, buddy." dog?

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    4. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like dogs because they're lovable, cute, loyal, and a pleasure to be around. Not because they're functional. Those Japanese will never learn...

      Yeah, those Japanese aren't lovable or cute at all!

    5. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although I'm a cat person, I can certainly understand the appeal of dogs. However, the Japanese (and South Koreans) choose the smallest-most-looking-like-overgrown-rodent type dogs they can find, dye their ears and feet, shave off their body fur and then carry them around everywhere. They spend thousands of dollars on them, and dog cafes are quite popular.

      Ridiculous.

    6. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by nick0909 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Whatever dog you speak of must have not been very well trained. If you have ever spent much time with a "working dog" it is amazing what the well trained ones can do. In my Search & Rescue unit we have many dogs that can scent discriminate off a scent article and follow that scent trail only in a world of people. They also have different reactions to a live person, a live person matching the scent article, a dead person, a dead person matching the scent article, and a well-trained handler and dog can work very effectivly. I am not a dog handler, but work closely with them on searches, and it is amazing watching them work.

    8. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by MikeDX · · Score: 1

      Pr0n downloading dogs?

    9. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by AGMW · · Score: 1
      "Seeing Eye" dogs

      That always makes me laugh! Try Guide Dog.

      So is a Guard dog a biting mouth dog then?

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    10. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 1

      Some dogs are functional though. "Seeing Eye" dogs, drug sniffing dogs, bomb detection dogs, dogs to seek out victims in structural collapses, dogs that find people in avalanche areas, and the like. Personally, I'd like it if the technology could evolve to where the dog could actually indicate if it found drugs or if it found something that it wanted to eat or have sex with

      Personally, I'd like it if the technology could evolve to where the dog could actually indicate if it found drugs for me or if it found something that I wanted to eat or have sex with. ;)

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    11. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by cfuse · · Score: 1
      I like dogs because they're lovable, cute, loyal, and a pleasure to be around.

      Not to mention that they respond really well to being kicked. Try that with a cat.

    12. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by u-238 · · Score: 1

      This is a very typical Japanese perverson of technology; use it to "upgrade" an animal. As another user points out, aside from eating them, they do do have another practical use for dogs:

      the Japanese (and South Koreans) choose the smallest-most-looking-like-overgrown-rodent type dogs they can find, dye their ears and feet, shave off their body fur and then carry them around everywhere. They spend thousands of dollars on them, and dog cafes are quite popular.

      Apparently they're also used for fashion statements and considered accessories. What about companionship?

    13. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So is a Guard dog a biting mouth dog then?

      Sure is! They've got "drug sniffing" dogs, why not "seeing eye" dogs? Or what would you call a drug sniffing dog: Search&Seizure Dog?

    14. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by VxMorpheusxV · · Score: 1

      ""Now, women are becoming 'deru kugi' - are sticking out. There's very few males who would say 'that's right, we have to support you. Instead they (the women) are being hammered," said Dr Ishikawa. Heh.

    15. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by acxr+is+wasted · · Score: 1

      Now I'm deru kugi.

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    16. Re:What's wrong with normal pets? by AGMW · · Score: 1
      Or what would you call a drug sniffing dog

      Easy ... A "Smelling Nose" dog - obvious really!

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  4. Hmm... lets see by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Funny

    My dog already seems to be fairly well equipped...

    Oops, I promised the producer I wouldn't say anything.

    1. Re:Hmm... lets see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi Ravenspear! I loved you in "Piggy does Dallas"! Those pig dicks sure are pointy!

    2. Re:Hmm... lets see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, I don't get it. Are u screwing your dog or something?

    3. Re:Hmm... lets see by pipingguy · · Score: 4, Funny


      So *you're* that guy...

      There's this guy who drinks at a local bar every night. One night, he came in and ordered only coffee. The bartender was curious and asked him why he wasn't buying beer.

      The man replied, "I don't drink anymore... last night, I blew chunks."

      "Oh that's nothing", the bartender replies. "Everyone gets a little sick after drinking too much at times."

      "No, no", the man replies. "You don't understand. Chunks is my dog!"

    4. Re:Hmm... lets see by Keebler71 · · Score: 2, Funny
      they even made their own version of a dog webcam along with the first ever canine photographer's photo gallery

      Just what I need,... the ability to watch my dog lick his balls via webcam.

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  5. UGA Cam by Darthmalt · · Score: 4, Informative

    The University of Georgia has been putting a camera on their mascot an english bulldog named UGA (pronounced UH-GUH)for years and broadcasting it up on their Jumbotron

    1. Re:UGA Cam by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, of course this isn't new or original. Engadget just rehashes old concepts and pays Slashdot to put it on the front page. Hmm, up to 9 links this month, eh?

    2. Re:UGA Cam by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      Yeah but they muted the audio when they heard him saying "the good word."

    3. Re:UGA Cam by Darthmalt · · Score: 1

      the good word?

    4. Re:UGA Cam by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      Inside GTech joke.

    5. Re:UGA Cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is turning into quite the Engadget fan club, isn't it...

    6. Re:UGA Cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To HELL with Georgia!

    7. Re:UGA Cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's sad isn't it? I mean, engadget's such a great site, but with all this exposure on slashdot, they will soon be overrun by slashkiddies who post loopy paranoid comments like "how much are Apple and Sony paying you to advertise their gadgets on engadget?"

    8. Re:UGA Cam by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      A ramblin' wreck from Georgia Tech and a helluva fuckin queer
      a Helluva,
      Helluva,
      Hell of a fucking queer!

      disclaimer: I went to tech for a year as a grad student. Hated it.

    9. Re:UGA Cam by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 1

      Great site huh? Nice anonymous comment there buddy. Check out this link where an Engadget editor submits his story without disclosing his connection to Engadget.

  6. I would prefer a live pooch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer a live, rolling, barking, treat grabbin', sock chewin', hydrant peein', lovable furry hound that is loyal than some robotic dog.

    more fun to be with, and who else gives unconditional love?

    1. Re:I would prefer a live pooch by mek2600 · · Score: 1, Funny

      your mom

    2. Re:I would prefer a live pooch by mek2600 · · Score: 1

      lol.

      oh fuck me. that was supposed to be anonymous. :)

    3. Re:I would prefer a live pooch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was pretty funny though .. here, have some atta-boy (read as: meaningless) Funny mod points.

  7. umm by Quasar1999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can they implant something that house trains my puppy? Two weeks now and he still shits and pisses on my computer...

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    1. Re:umm by Soko · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can they implant something that house trains my puppy? Two weeks now and he still shits and pisses on my computer...

      Lemme guess his name...

      BillGates? :-p

      Soko

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    2. Re:umm by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Two weeks now and he still shits and pisses on my computer...

      It's probably because he has pissed on it before that he continues to do so. Once they mark a spot with pee, they continue to use that spot because it has been marked with a scent, even if you clean it up well. I think there are pet products that you can use that counteract that smell. If not, vinegar and water might do the trick. There are other tips online about training puppies.

      Then again maybe he's telling you to get a better computer.

    3. Re:umm by NerveGas · · Score: 4, Informative


      With both of my puppies, I took them outside whenever they would need to go. That's not so hard to figure out. A puppy will need to pee:

      1. Within a few minutes of waking up from ANY duration of sleep.
      2. Within a few minutes of drinking ANY water.
      3. After playing for a little bit, and after they stop playing.

      They'll have to poop within 10 to 20 minutes after eating any amount of food, and after waking up from sleeping.

      At those times, take the puppy outside. Wait until he goes. IMMEDIATELY (within 1 second) give him a reward.

      If it goes in the house, make a noise to interrupt it, pick it up, take it outside, let it finish, and when it does, IMMEDIATELY reward it. Don't hit it, swat it, rub it's nose in it, or anything else.

      I can't tell you how many puppies I've seen that work like a MIRACLE for - but only if YOU are consistent.

      Dogs instinctively won't go in their "den". The trick is that you need to help the dog realize that the entire house is a den.

      I've also seen people trying to crate-train that achieved near instant success the day after they started letting the puppies sleep on the bed - that just helped the puppy learn that the house was the den, not the crate.

      steve

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    4. Re:umm by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...pick it up, take it outside, let it finish, and when it does, IMMEDIATELY reward it.

      It? Stop switching pronouns. For a while there I thought you were talking about the turd!

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    5. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:umm by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Vinegar is an acid. Trust me: acid + computer = not good.

    7. Re:umm by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1

      Trust me: acid + computer = not good.

      I guess then just wipe down the computer case with it, and don't use a spray on it. However, the area around the computer needs to be deodorised well, especially if it has carpeting. Dog pee + computer = not good either, especially if other dogs compete with marking the territory by peeing on the same spot, which happens when an area is marked with a scent. Kind of like fire hydrants.

    8. Re:umm by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      Agreed!!!

      May i add, don't let the thing out of your sight till he is house broken. Take him everywhere and especially take him outside *every* hour or two (and yes probably 3-4hrs at night/when you sleep)

      That gives you lots of opportunities to reward and to stop any mistakes while in the act. No point in correcting a puddle you find, but startle him in the act, take him to where he should go, and then reward will mean he wont go *there* again. 2 feet to the left perhaps, but not *there*. My puppy did my house room by room, corner by corner, till we established the only right place was the laundry or *outside*.

      And get an enzyme based cleaner for pets. Most products cover the smell, but these are meant to get rid of the smell. Rose scented urine is still a good place to go if you are a dog.

      And the *best* thing i taught my dog was to pee on command. Now he can be told go before that long car trip, just like the girlfriend... I did this by telling him to 'be quick' every time we went. reward, repeat. Be carful what you choose and dont say it while fido is on top of the bed, and you are telling the bipedal pet to 'hurry up'

    9. Re:umm by pamar · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I agree with most of your post, I'd like to add that you'd better not to let your dog sleep on the bed.

      This was covered in conferece by a Vet specializing in psychological rehab and training for dogs (especially for dogs who have been taken to a pool/shelter).

      I do community work at a local animal shelter, this was a series of conferences to help the people to better work with the dogs and the people who wanted to adopt them.

      There are some signals/behaviours that could confuse the dog idea of his own place in your household hierarchy. Your relationship with the dog works best if he (she) understands that the the human is the "pack-leader" (and that any other human in the household is higher in the hierarchy).

      Making him sleep on the bed gives the wrong signal. Just like having the dog eat before the humans.

    10. Re:umm by urbaer · · Score: 1

      Where is your computer? What sort of puppy do you have? My suggestion would be something along the lines of "put computer on desk". But then it depends on what sort of puppy you have.

    11. Re:umm by Wybaar · · Score: 1

      I thought I'd heard people remark that your posts had started improving in the last few weeks.

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    12. Re:umm by NerveGas · · Score: 1


      Read "the other end of the leash", by a person who has spent not only most of their life studying canine psychology and ethology, but done a tremendous amount of research into it, and you'll find that the "don't let them sleep on the bed" idea is nearly entirely bunk - along with quite a bit more of the traditional "dominance" ideas.

      I also do quite a bit of work at a local animal shelter, and have been involved with dogs for about 25 years. Everything I've seen over that time corresponds exactly with what the author of the book presents.

      My dogs have always been free to sleep on the bed if they want to. Some times they do, sometimes they don't. Sometimes, they sleep in my spot, and I move over and sleep in another spot. And I've never hit them. I've never alpha-rolled them. And I let them have some of my food before, while, or after I'm eating it. It's an entirely benevelent relationship. And yet, they have absolutely no problem with the fact that I'm the leader. If I tell them to do something, they do it, and they do it well.

      Even the strong-willed girl can be inches from getting a piece of chicken, and if I say "mishka, leave it", she does.

      Once you get away from the confrontational implications of the mis-chosen English word "dominance", then things become a lot easier to work with. Read the book, and give it some thought.

      steve

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    13. Re:umm by NerveGas · · Score: 1

      And the *best* thing i taught my dog was to pee on command.

      Again, agreed!

      Even without the "parlor-trick" aspect of it ("Hey, watch this: Mishka, go potty!"), it's immensely useful. If I'm going to leave for a couple of hours, and want to leave them in the house instead of the yard, I can take them out, tell them to go, they do, then I know they won't be "holding it" for the next two hours. : )

      Be carful what you choose and dont say it while fido is on top of the bed

      I was in a pet store a while ago, one of the dogs was with my wife. The dog I had was walking around, and a lady trying to get her bulldog to go on a potty-pad kept saying "go potty, go potty". I didn't even hear it, so I wasn't paying attention - I just noticed that my dog was peeing in the store. I guess the lady noticed the surprise on my face (the dog would never normally do that), and told me that the whole time she was saying it, my dog kept looking at her with a really uncomfortable look on her face like "But I don't go inside!", but finally gave in and did as she was being told. : )

      steve

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    14. Re:umm by pamar · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip. I have just added the book you suggested to my Amazon basket. (it's by Patricia PhD McConnell, right?)

    15. Re:umm by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      I havnt read that one, but liked 'puppies for dummies'-when i really was a dummy when it came to dogs! Although the author appears to like crate training, she has lots of other good ideas that i used to success.

      I am not sure i would let my pup be free to do anything without my permission though. No he dosent sleep on my bed, but can ask and is usually allowed up when my alarm clock goes off. Same for the couch. He'll sit there grumbling at it for ages so i can give him permission, but he usually wont go up by himself.

      He's started getting the habit of stealing things from the office/laundry basket and playing with them (to bits), but with the wimpiest of faces will sometimes bring things too me as if to ask, "can i play with this?", to which i normally respond to by telling the sock off. (yes, tell the sock off, not the dog, socks are bad, puppies are innocent, and they think twice about an object that you get angry at because it isnt safe, and they understand that-sometimes)

      I think i got off topic, but oh subm...

    16. Re:umm by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      Hey that the second dog I've heard thats called Mishka. and that dog was no mouse. My pups called macchiato- short, black and little bit of white :)

      my dog kept looking at her with a really uncomfortable look on her face like "But I don't go inside!"

      I know that look! occasionally the trigger phrase will be used and he looks at me just like that. A quick reasurment that it wasnt directed at him and he's ok.

      otherwise its assume the position- snif around, tail up, hips down, noooo noooooot onnnnnnnn theeeeeeee ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

      carpet, grass, its all the same really...

    17. Re:umm by compwiz3688 · · Score: 1

      I saw a show called "Pet Guys" and they have a (recurring?) guest on the show training one of the hosts' dog. This is just generic training, like sit or stay, etc. The trainer's suggestion to the host was to consistently use the dog's name followed by the command. This would prevent the dog from "eavesdropping" on your conversation with a friend and do things you don't want it to do.

      Now, mind you, IANADO (I am not a dog owner), so I don't know whether this works or not.

    18. Re:umm by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      well yes, i certainly use his name to get his attention, but i find that he often just listens to the last word/syllable of the command and hopes for the best.

      ie. "come up" (onto the couch) has the same effect as "you are not allowed to come up". Well after all he *is* a dog and dosent really understand me :)

  8. Wasn't this covered... by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...in Holy Fire by Bruce Sterling? One of the dogs in that book even had a talk show, it's support electronics were so advanced.

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    1. Re:Wasn't this covered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "One of the dogs in that book even had a talk show"


      was it like This dog?

      Sorry, I had to.

    2. Re:Wasn't this covered... by ir0b0t · · Score: 1

      That dog's name was Plato, and he was more than 40-years-old --- one of the "oldest dogs in California" according to his companion, Martin Warshaw. I'm not sure that Plato was a happy dog --- though he was a very good dog.

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  9. Your kid first by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...cell phone, webcam and electronic tag
    I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

    Let us know how it works out.

    maybe even talks to you.

    Thet do that normally after a while. Be patient.

    1. Re:Your kid first by gatzke · · Score: 1


      I would love to be able to track a kid, especially a rather young one, say 4-14.

      I know the civil liberties / big brother complaints. These days, your cell has GPS, your car has GPS, and the gubermit probably has enough KH sats to watch you whenever you go outside if they want.

      Was it McNeely at Sun that said something like "Americans have no privacy, they need to get over it." Scary, but true.

      I still want to know where my kids are and have some notification when they break boundaries or curfew.

    2. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You fucking fascist parent!

      I will be the guy who sells your kids tracking circumvention technology on the internet without you knowing about. Count on it!

      You'll think your kids spent 30mins at the pizza place, followed by 3 hours at the local library, while in fact that was the smokescreen. They were actually smoking dope under a bridge and having an orgy with the AIDS-infested homeless guys.

    3. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      where is the tracking chip implanted, gatze? In the wrists? I'll make sure I cut her hands off when I abduct your 14year old for some fun times in the woods. In the neck? necrophelia never stopped psychos before. I am considering getting a faraday cage van too, then I can fuck your kids without getting blood on my shirt.

    4. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn this post was sick and cruel! I can't wait for the new PATRIOT act laws that make anonymous posts illegal.

    5. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I could track you down, you sick motherfucker. I'd cut your dick off and shove it up your ass. Nobody threatens my family!--gatze

    6. Re:Your kid first by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I still want to know where my kids are and have some notification when they break boundaries or curfew.

      Are they obeying those boundraies because you're taught them it's the right thing to do, or because they know dad is tracking them? Big difference. Curfew is a non-issue. Either they're home or they're not.

      And yes, I have teenagers.

    7. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are one sic bastich.... if you even think of applying this sort of crap to a child. You should take more time to actually be there to raise your kids instead of letting the god damn TV do the fuck'in job for you. You wouldn't have to worry about where your kids are if you were actually a part of their life instead of spending all of your time jacked in trying to make more money so you can afford a 2nd Stupid Utility Vehicle that will break down the second you take it off the pavement. PS your kids will hate you if you don't take the time to share in their daily lives and share the enjoyments of discovery with them. If you spend their entire lives trying to make more money all you will do is raise a bunch of wannabe columbine kids.

      get a clue, your kids are you life, so spend it with them, not at work

    8. Re:Your kid first by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      I would love to be able to track a kid, especially a rather young one, say 4-14.

      People have managed to track their kids for a million years (depending what you count as people:-)). Should be a solved problem by now, no need for high tech.

      As for curfew, if you don't know if the kid is in the house you have a remarkably quiet and undemanding child.

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    9. Re:Your kid first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love to be able to track a kid, especially a rather young one, say 4-14.

      You want to be careful how you phrase that; it might not come across how you intended;

      "Sick pedo-Slashdot techno tot-stalker receives ten life sentences in Super-Max prison."

  10. babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

    As a parent, I can honestly say that I would NEVER EVER put an electronic leash on my 3month old. Who are these paranoid fuckwad parents who are lining up to chip their pets and unwilling children in the name perceived orwellian safety?

    It's they who are to blame for the starting the slide down the slippery slope. "Oh, but this RFID comes with a cute camera and a crude baby-to-human universal translator! ahhh! how cute! and SAFE too!" Die you braindead soccermom fucks. Get some personal responsibility and learn to live with the fact that shit happens despite your best efforts to nerf the world.

    1. Re:babies too? by MoggyMania · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Get some personal responsibility and learn to live with the fact that shit happens despite your best efforts to nerf the world."

      I'm not a parent, but I can say from experience that after you've actually seen a loved one in severe pain or even watched them die, the above poster's attitude comes across not as insightful but inexperienced/immature/ignorant. It's a lot easier to sneer "shit happens" when you haven't had that shit happen to you.

    2. Re:babies too? by geekoid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Die you braindead soccermom fucks. "

      you knowm using soccormom in negative context is really starting to piss me off.

      My wife drives a minivan, haul 2 kids around(yes, to soccer) but she is not brain dead by any stretch of the imagination.

      " Get some personal responsibility and learn to live with the fact that shit happens despite your best efforts to nerf the world."

      of course it does, but this help mitigate it.
      If your chiuld and a someone else child was taken from the park together, and you found out the other child could be tracked, you would get down on your knees and thank God.

      "...despite your best efforts to nerf the world."

      so, you don't lock doors? roll up your car windows? shut your garage?
      DO you just leave your laptop lying around when you get up to get your seriously crappy cup of coffee from a piece of shit coffee shop that is 'cool' cause its local?

      WOW fucktard, stop trying to nerf the world.

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      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    3. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But wont somebody PLEASE think of the children?

      We got RFID tags/wireless locators in some Danish amusement parks, just little armbands that sends the GPS coordinates of the children, they are removed once they leave the park. I think its alrite for a limited space, because it can be really hard to locate kids amongst thousands of them. However, id hate to see it spread further than that.

      But baby-to-adult translator? Please - it worked fine for babies to communicate via crying/body language for over 100,000 years - do you think their brains need to get fried by some microwaves just so some stupid appliance can "interpret" it? Oh my.

    4. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree !

      The fact that there is such a thing in the US as parenting classes because people haven't got a clue anymore is bad enough allready.

      This and the fact that US citizens are getting fatter everyday are causing the rest of the world not to take the US serious anymore. They can't even take care of themselves...

      And Bush doesn't help either.. ;-)

    5. Re:babies too? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      As a parent, I can honestly say that I would NEVER EVER put an electronic leash on my 3month old.

      I agree.

      If you don't get the electronic leash on them by the time they are one month old, you might as well just give up the kid for adoption.

    6. Re:babies too? by 2$+Crack+Whore · · Score: 1

      My wife drives a minivan, haul 2 kids around(yes, to soccer) but she is not brain dead by any stretch of the imagination.

      Because you really need a minivan to haul 2 kids around....Seriously?

    7. Re:babies too? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You may have a child (poor kid), but the mods who gave you anything but "troll" are idiots.

      Of course you wouldn't put a leash on your three month old. You don't have to worry about getting separated from your 3 month old unless you put the infant carrier down and walk away.

      Children ARE foolish, and parents are NOT perfect. As careful as I am with my 2 year old, I wouldn't hesitate to slap a gps wristwatch/pager on my kid if I took here to a place where she had any possibility of getting lost. No matter how attentive I am, there is still a chance - remote though it may be - of us getting separated. She's highly mobile at this age, and though knows her name (yes, first and last) just try to get that information out of here if she's lost and scared and surrounded by strangers.

      Don't think it's worthwile? Explain that to the mother and father of the six year old who was playing with friends in the woods behind their house. The kids were playing hind-and-seek, and he hid just a little too well. Problem was, he got lost in the woods cause he forgot which way was out. They did find him. Three days later. Dead from hypothermia. Imagine how scared he must have been. With a three month old, you can't understand how your relationship changes over the course of a couple of years, but you shuld start thinking about it now. If your child ins't the center of your world, I suggest you ask yourself why.

      If you haven't changed your mind, I can only hope that your child will turn out to be sterile and that will end your genetic line right there, for, in my opinion you are not fit to be a parent.

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      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    8. Re:babies too? by PriceIke · · Score: 1

      Hmm .. this wasn't insightful, but the swearing, drooling-at-the-mouth "soccermom" hater was WAY insightful.

      Ohhhhh I get it! Drunken moderation! It IS a fun game!

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      It's not a lie. It's the truth with lossy compression.
    9. Re:babies too? by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 1

      no leash here... even those baby harnesses are pretty screwed up.

      i have, however, given my two year old access to my powershot s400 (almost too big for her hands...) we're putting some of her photos up http://babystony.deviantart.com/.

      we got her one of those El Cheapo brand digitals, but it had no os X support so... if anyone knows of a sub-$50 camera that works in os X... give me a shout :p

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      for a minute there, i lost myself...
    10. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get your seriously crappy cup of coffee from a piece of shit coffee shop that is 'cool' cause its local?

      whoah... did somebody make fun of you cause you went to starbucks this morning?

      that combined with the soccer mom wife (con minivan, nice, old school) certainly makes you the 'coolest'.

    11. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you really need a minivan to haul 2 kids around....Seriously?

      they need the space, juvenile obesity is a serious problem.

    12. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. I had his soccermom of a wife. She wasn't that good.

    13. Re:babies too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did I guess that no pervert has yet come for your child or any young person in your family? Because you spout liberal crap like this.

      The world is composed of two types of people, in my experience - those who have never had something bad happen to them, and those who know We Have To Do Something about the world's insecurities. You, sir, obviously belong to the former.

      Yes, I once thought like you. Then I grew up. I decided to move to the second group so that I could get the change-of-world-view dealt with first, so that if something bad does happen, I save myself a double crisis (and allegations of knee-jerk reacting.) I also simultaneously reduce the likelyhood of the crime happening.

      It's also funny that "civil liberties groups" are so full of bluster against the "slippery slope" (no such thing, actually) leading to an "Orwellian society", but when they are pressed for why an Orwellian society is so dangerous, they go deathly quiet. Um, ah, they don't know, that's the impression they give.

      Anyhow, I am not a parent, but I *will* be putting implants in my offspring. I want them to be found if they go missing. I want then to be recognised for who they are, to have their identities and credentials on them even if they lose everything else, even when they lose their lives. They will be made to face the consequences of their actions - no child of mine will be a coward - and better still, nobody will be a prisoner in their own homes because of them. And if some notional "Big Brother" rounds them up, I would have to ask myself, is he as unfair as all that, as his actions would have to be co-created by a sizeable number of people...

  11. GPS by Heem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always wanted to attach my GPS to my dog just to see where he goes. Probably around in circles chasing squirells and such, but might be interesting.

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    1. Re:GPS by bot24 · · Score: 1

      There is probably some law about that that only Slashdogs know. Look out if you see your dog heading towards a court house.

    2. Re:GPS by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Well, GPS-GSM tracking already seems to work pretty well for wolves. Maybe just plain GSM network could be used to track dogs (good coverage in urban areas and has a reasonable accuracy).

    3. Re:GPS by bonne · · Score: 1

      I came across a similar application a while ago. It's not a complete GPS system, but you can track your dog up to 8 km. If the squirell flies away, you can always find your dog back

    4. Re:GPS by bonne · · Score: 1

      SOrry, first post.. here's the link for http://www.detectnu.nl/shop/product_info.php/produ cts_id/1127?ref=1the animal tracking device

    5. Re:GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Combine that with an iPod, and see if he goes in different places depending on the music!

      http://www.freeipods.com/default.aspx?referer=8309 944

    6. Re:GPS by Jethro · · Score: 1

      *lol* just posted something similar. I want to compare how far my dog and I walk when we both spend the same amount of time walking.

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    7. Re:GPS by Heem · · Score: 1

      haha. i bet it's at least 10x more. At least if you judge by my dog. Runs up to just about where I can't see him anymore, then I whistle him back, and he comes running back. Repeat.

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    8. Re:GPS by Jethro · · Score: 1

      *grins* Mine'll just chase the ball, then catch it and run around with it. Sometimes she brings it back. And sometimes she lets me have it once she's brought it back.

      And sometimes she catches a scent and is off.

      My real problem right now is that she'll go hop in the pond and likely destroy my GPS receiver. Yeah, it's water resistant, but I don't think that'll cut it...

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      In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
  12. I have a dog, see... by izakage · · Score: 0

    Well, I don't *really* have a dog, but if I had one, it sure as hell wouldn't be for functionality.

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    Voice-Collar: The dog has urinated at 9:18:36PM
    Voice-Collar: The dog has done business behind the sofa at 9:19:45PM
    Voice-Collar: Female dog alert: "Back, bitch!"

  13. And don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the remote dog detonator for that extra special surprise!

  14. Dog Gone by Schwing84 · · Score: 0

    Why not a robotic dog with a telephone? Then it saves the owner from carrying their phone around with them.

  15. No upgrades needed by The-Bus · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's only one thing that dog should be able to do, and as far as I can tell, that's been covered already.

    That's right, Rolfie. Come to papa with his brandy.

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    Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

    1. Re:No upgrades needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Whats your dog's name?"
      "Max"
      "How's Wolfie?"
      "Wolfie's fine..."
      "Your parents are dead..."

  16. Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by zymurgy_cat · · Score: 5, Funny

    This sounds neat and interesting....until you realize (afterwards, of course) that the dog was in the room watching you have sex.....

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    1. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      the dog was in the room watching you have sex.....

      Nothing so bad about that, unless it was participating too.

    2. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by conan776 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an old Parking Lot is Full comic

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      "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick
    3. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by segfault7375 · · Score: 1

      watching you have sex.....

      This is Slashdot.. you must be new around here :)

    4. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Funny

      watching you have sex.....

      ... by yourself
    5. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by VocabularyNazi · · Score: 1

      just be glad he wasn't trying to sniff your butt. that's one cold surprise you don't wanna get.

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    6. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Brandybuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know you're doing it right when she starts moaning... and her dog starts growling.

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      Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
    7. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by rts008 · · Score: 0

      COOL! Now I can get one and host my own webpage: RoboDog's Leg Hump Cam-Live in Your Neighborhood

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    8. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by strider44 · · Score: 1

      and the webcam that you forgot to disable has an audience of two million...

    9. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 0

      ... by yourself

      To voyeur porn.

    10. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a problem since you'll be doing doggy-style, unless of course, the dog is looking into a mirror...

    11. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To voyeur porn...

      of a dog having sex.

      the circle is complete.

    12. Re:Interesting web sites from doggy cam.... by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 0

      of a dog having sex

      ... with himself

  17. Say Cheese by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    I prefer the art upgrade: the dog paints!

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  18. Nerds demand real results? by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was just reading about how nerds will rule the world because "A nerd, ...is someone who concentrates on substance.".

    And then I read this. And I think to myself... is there more than one definition for "nerd"?

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    1. Re:Nerds demand real results? by JanneM · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well the author probably did concentrate on substance - abuse thereof, to be sure, but substance nevertheless.

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      Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    2. Re:Nerds demand real results? by hopemafia · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, /. is populated mainly by geeks, not nerds.

      And as a bonified nerd, I say that with all the disdain possible....

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      If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
    3. Re:Nerds demand real results? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      there are nerds, and wanna be nerds. Usually known as geeks.

      Now, technology is hip. I mean look its small cute hip. Chick hip.

      Nerds will continue to build and design the things geeks covet.

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      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    4. Re:Nerds demand real results? by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      And as a bonified nerd, I say that with all the disdain possible....

      I'm being terribly unfair - especially since your response is really quite nice and all ...

      But, "bonified" would be the result of taking the root word "bone", and converting it to "bonify", meaning "to make into or resemble bone", and then make it past tense.

      As in: "He was bonified when he drank too much of that calcium powder".

      So, I get this weird picture of a nerd with big, nasty bones sticking out all over his face!

      Yeah, grammar nazi, blah blah. It's quite funny when you think about it!

      I'm pretty sure you meant "bona fide"!

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      I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
    5. Re:Nerds demand real results? by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      ummmmm...I thought they were the same thing?
      If not, I wonder which I am.

    6. Re:Nerds demand real results? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, you got it all wrong. Drug addicts concentrate on the substance.

    7. Re:Nerds demand real results? by hopemafia · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm aware of the correct word(s)....
      "Bonified" is from some movie or other..."Oh Brother Where Art Thou" I think....

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      If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
    8. Re:Nerds demand real results? by hopemafia · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm....if you don't know of the longstanding geek vs. nerd debate, chances are you aren't either.

      A short summary of geeks vs. nerds (my own opinion, which everyone else will no doubt disagree with, but that's par for the course with geeks and nerds):

      Both: Obsessive about details which most people consider obscure, generally socially inept, but of above average intelligence.

      Nerds: Generally more academic, love taking things apart and figuring out how and why they work, tend to study for the sake of studying, make fools of themselves in public because they just aren't paying attention to other people. PhD's are usually nerds. Scientists, engineers, musicologists, mathematicians, and art historians are often nerds.

      Geeks: Tend to be fans or participants, often collectors, tend to study for the sake of knowing more than the other guy (or girl), make fools out of themselves in public to get attention from other people. Marching Band members, people who dress up at cons, gamers (of all types), and sports stats nuts are often geeks.

      Nerds generally consider the objects of geeks obsessions to be trivial when compared to their fields, but often share geeks interests in addition to their academic pursuits. Geeks think nerds are elitist snobs (which often we are), but generally respect their expertise as it applies to the geek's interests.

      The major exception to these categories is the "computer geek", who is more like the nerd category but in a computer related discipline, and still goes by the title geek. Computer geeks are respected by nerds (not quite as equals, but they do keep our computers running and give us fun new software to use) and are almost worshipped by rank and file geeks. Computer geeks consider both nerds and geeks inferior, since they are not as skilled in the only field which matters - computers - but aside from demeaning them as n00bs they generally get along with both.

      Of course the worst category to fall into is:
      Dork: Obsessive about details which most people consider obscure, generally socially inept, but an idiot. Sadly there are many dorks on /. mixed in with the nerds, geeks and computer geeks.

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      If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
    9. Re:Nerds demand real results? by lachlan76 · · Score: 1
      Hmmmm....if you don't know of the longstanding geek vs. nerd debate, chances are you aren't either.

      I'd say computer geek, seeing as:
      1. I spend my weekends posing on /.
      2. I have a "room of many pcs"
      3. I've spent an hour designing a shell script, and setting up OpenSSH to run it from my main PC. All to play a CD. On a computer 3m away.
      4. I will flame people on IM who use closed source software

      Of course, judging by the fact that I just wrote that list, I might fall into the dork category ;)
    10. Re:Nerds demand real results? by hopemafia · · Score: 1

      "Of course, judging by the fact that I just wrote that list, I might fall into the dork category ;)"

      Nah...if you were a dork you wouldn't have bothered with a list...you would have just flamed me....

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      If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
  19. dogs by humankind · · Score: 1

    I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

    I vote for dogs.

    1. Re:dogs by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: 1

      So do I.

  20. Bad Marketing by Agret · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "On the website, the scenario presented is a woman calling her dog telling him he should be home soon." Yet another example of bad marketing

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    Have you metaroderated recently?
    1. Re:Bad Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "On the website, the scenario presented is a woman calling her dog telling him he should be home soon." Yet another example of bad marketing

      too true. if only they added "...and bring a six pack and some pizza".

  21. I had better not come home... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and find lost packets all over the floor!

  22. Dear Timothy by Letter · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dear Timothy,

    I'm a proud parent of a newborn young girl. The first thing I did after getting her home from the natural birthing center was to install a subdermal electronic tag so she can't escape. Second, since I'm a good dad, I bought her a cell phone (an N-Gage even!) with a 700 minutes/month plan. Third, I enrolled her in ESL classes, cause she sure damn can't speak English yet. I don't understand a word she says!

    Until later,!
    Letter

    1. Re:Dear Timothy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, when I read the "dear timothy" line i assumed this was going to be a lassie joke... i was disappointed =(

    2. Re:Dear Timothy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, when I read the "dear timothy" line i assumed this was going to be a lassie joke... i was disappointed =(

      *phone rings*

      Timmie: Hey Lassie, how's it going?
      Lassie: Ruff
      Timmie: Yeah, I'd imagine, you went looking for that frisbee an hour ago. Where did it end up?
      Lassie: Ruff
      Timmie: aww man, i'm sorry, i guess i threw it too hard if it landed on the barn roof. where you able to get it?
      Lassie: No you schmuck, i'm a dog, how the hell am i supposed to get up there?

      you're still dissapointed, aren't you?

  23. Poor Pooch by UncleJam · · Score: 1

    Now all we need is the dog version of muscle gain, just so he/she can carry the 20 lbs of strange electronic devices.

  24. Dear Doc by Letter · · Score: 1
    Dear Doc,

    i prefer the art upgrade: the child paints

    letter

  25. Technology and animals don't mix by EvilCabbage · · Score: 1

    We've all seen what happened to 'Cat' in Red Dwarf, right?

    1. Re:Technology and animals don't mix by Grausam · · Score: 1

      That wasn't really technology, but rather time it self...

  26. Not again... by Atmchicago · · Score: 5, Funny

    I already get tons of e-mails telling me they can upgrade my "dog" by adding a few extra inches.

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    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it dissolve.

    1. Re:Not again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      odd, they always seem to be interested in upgrading my rooster. i mean, how did they even know i lived on a farm?

    2. Re:Not again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      upgrade my "dog" by adding a few extra inches.


      Yeah, that'll make the bitch happy.

      (childish giggling)

    3. Re:Not again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this 5:Funny anyway? I've never heard anyone call a penis a "dog".

      Or perhaps upgrading anything is funny; anyone round here upgraded their PC recently? Get it? PC? Ha ha.... lame.

  27. Wow, this sounds like a .com by fsterman · · Score: 1

    All those cute, unimaginative ideas on what IT can do to X. Which in a few years after the ideas just never happen everyone comes to their senses and relizes: It was pretty much useless. Now there are a lot cooler things happening in regards to that field that we couldn't have imagened then. The future is what we are doing times 2. Riiiiight, thats why we drive at 200Mph., or fly in out "cars." Or my personal favorite, 3d desktops.

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    1. Re:Wow, this sounds like a .com by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      ...unimaginative ideas on what IT can do [with] X. Which in a few years after the ideas just never happen everyone comes to their senses and relizes: It was pretty much useless.

      Yeah. They should make an XML Web Services dog instead.

  28. Dog and bone? by jginspace · · Score: 0

    I thought the dog was a cell phone? ..."dog & bone" ... = "phone"?

  29. Things Applied To Dogs and Infants by Zephiris · · Score: 1

    Perhaps I'm just evil, but I'd prefer to see different sorts of things applied to infants, like those shock collars that go off if they go 'out of bounds'. You know, keep them from bothering me while crafting those lines of programming together. =)
    But a hat to put on a dog that says things like "I don't really smell bad, you just have high standards that are unattainable for -real- dogs" would be amusing for cat lovers and/or women who hate magazine stereotypes.

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    "A Goddess rarely smiles for she is forced by others to be an island unto herself." - Zephiris
    1. Re:Things Applied To Dogs and Infants by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      but I'd prefer to see different sorts of things applied to infants, like those shock collars that go off if they go 'out of bounds'

      It just might be a bit dangerous to put electricity through an area containing a nerve which can stop a person's heart ;)

  30. Infants? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I fail to see why an infant needs a webcam, gps sensor, e-tag, or translator.

    If you're a good parent, you don't need this stuff.

    Someone should send social services over to Timothy's house to see how many lost infants he's got in his garage.

    sheesh. It might be neat on dogs, it's just dehumanizing on people.

    1. Re:Infants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Television.
      " Rain today. Stay inside. "

      Dog clothes. Where the deep waters flow. A story.
      Fifth-grade classroom. " Do dogs wear clothes ? "
      What a riot.

    2. Re:Infants? by Maavin · · Score: 1

      > I fail to see why an infant needs a webcam, gps sensor, e-tag, or translator.

      hm but a translocator might be really useful..
      "Ha ! My dad says I have to be back at 10 o' clock... Like I will do tha *ZZAP*"
      "Oh, hi dad, am I late? ^^;"

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    3. Re:Infants? by Bullet-Dodger · · Score: 1
      sheesh. It might be neat on dogs, it's just dehumanizing on people.

      Therefore, perhaps it was... a joke?

  31. Just What I needed by K-Man · · Score: 3, Funny


    Competing against dogs for DBA jobs.

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    1. Re:Just What I needed by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Competing against dogs for DBA jobs.

      Wumember wuu wormalwize wor wables

      - Scooby Dooooo (DBA)

  32. Infants!? by carcosa30 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd like to see many of these things applied to adults.

    In a world where billions don't have enough to eat, we are now giving our dogs cell phones.

    Truly sick.

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    1. Re:Infants!? by bigberk · · Score: 2, Insightful
      In a world where billions don't have enough to eat, we are now giving our dogs cell phones.
      This is probably the most meaningful analysis of the situation, and also unfortunately the least concern to most :(
    2. Re:Infants!? by carcosa30 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's nothing wrong with geek toys etc. I just have to laugh when I see people walking around encrusted with the newest pagers, cell phones, I-pods, PDAs, etc etc-- like barnacles on their waistlines-- when IMO they are oftentimes missing out on the things that are truly important in life. And I see it so much.

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    3. Re:Infants!? by EllF · · Score: 1

      Yeah! The most meaningful analyses are always the knee-jerk ones!

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    4. Re:Infants!? by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      You sir are correct.

      To put it bluntly, to think as the parent did one would have to consider giving instead of "having". Fuck those who can't make it as well as the person next to me.

      Why invade Sudan which has for the last decade exsperienced genocide after genocide? What do they have to offer me? Nada! Let them die for all I care, they deserve whatever they get.

      I whole-heartedly support our presidents decision to invade Iraq. Our grand conquest will fuels both our SUV's and our national "surplus" of oil which we keep in tightly regulated for the "end of days" .. it is after all our Governments intention to be the overlord of petrol once the "supply" runs dry ..our own a global monopoly. But hey.. we'll be numero uno, so who cares? I wont, since my SUV will have plenty to guzzle from while others kill each other for it IN THE 3rd WORLD .. heh.. like they count.
      Fuck those "knee-jerk bleeding heart" liberals. US 1st is what I say!! US first... fuck that, me first!

    5. Re:Infants!? by BluBrick · · Score: 1

      As a geek toy? Yeah, go for it. I have no beef with fitting a dog with a webcam, mobile phone, GPS, or whatever for a bit of fun.

      Suggesting, on the other hand, that this sort of technology might be useful as a substitute for actual supervision of a pet, or worse yet, a child - well, that's just pure negligence!

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    6. Re:Infants!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sir, will burn in hell.

    7. Re:Infants!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if we got rid of those food-less billions, the idea wouldn't sound that sick anymore. Think about it...

    8. Re:Infants!? by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I just have to laugh when I see people walking around encrusted with the newest pagers, cell phones, I-pods, PDAs, etc etc-- like barnacles on their waistlines

      Of course; the larger your waistline, the more gadgets you can wear round it- better get more pizzas and Coke in.

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    9. Re:Infants!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to have some better forms of birth control applied to adults, as well. Then we would have fewer, but still plenty of, people, and with the same amount of resources and fewer mouths to feed more people would be better off.

    10. Re:Infants!? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      In a world where billions don't have enough to eat, we are now giving our dogs cell phones.

      Which is a shame, because that cell phone directly took the food from a photogenic orphan's mouth.

      I just bought some grass seed for my lawn - instead of sending the money to a starving kid.

      I recently paid for another 3 months of DSL service - instead of sending the money to a starving kid.

      Next week I'll pay my daughter's tuition - instead of sending the money to a starving kid.

      This morning you logged onto an Internet site to post a lamely trite message with a computer you or your employer bought - instead of sending the money to a starving kid.

      This is the way of the world. Deal with it.

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    11. Re:Infants!? by hexgrid · · Score: 1

      In a world where billions don't have enough to eat..

      ...you can't find anything better to do than post condescending comments on slashdot.

      Truly sick.

    12. Re:Infants!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The billions who do not have enough to eat are the result, and if they live will be the perpetuation, of the poor choice of their parents to breed what they cannot feed.
      I would rather buy my pets cell phones than waste money feeding worthless low-tech human cattle who should be allowed to self-terminate without interference.

  33. From the best department ever by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    from the cats-are-superior dept.
    'Nuff said

    *Ducks!

    1. Re:From the best department ever by The-Perl-CD-Bookshel · · Score: 2
      Can you always count on a cat to sniff out a bomb, track a criminal, guide the blind and rescue trapped victims?

      Dogs > Cats.

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    2. Re:From the best department ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but are puppies better than cable?!!!

    3. Re:From the best department ever by evilviper · · Score: 1

      If you ever need to prove that dogs are smarter than cats, just point at something...

      A dog will actually look where you are pointing, while a cat will stare at your finger (possibly rubbing up against it).

      Of course, there are exceptions. If a dog or cat is just not interested at all, they won't look at anything, they'll just turn around and try to go away.

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  34. obligatory "a boy and his dog" quote by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    "I'd be delighted to tell you a suggestive story, if you think it would help." -- augmented dog Blood, to Albert, upon not being able to sniff out a partner for Albert

  35. From the no-cat-will... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    from the cats-are-superior dept.

    ahem

    Perhaps you meant "from the no-cat-will-ever-drag-your-sorry-ass-out-of-a-burn ing-building dept."

    1. Re:From the no-cat-will... by gekkotron · · Score: 0

      no-cat-will-ever-drag-your-sorry-ass-out-of-a-burn ing-building

      Nor will a troll.

    2. Re:From the no-cat-will... by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 1

      Shall I refer you to the Simpson's episode where Santa's Helper saves the ham, and Snowball II saves Homer from the fire?

      That's proof to me!

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    3. Re:From the no-cat-will... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Steve Sipek. He's an old movie star with pet lions/tigers who would disagree with your statement. Turns out he started keeping them as pets after one pulled him out of a burning movie set.

      Personally, I'd love to have a pet lion or tiger. I'd call him Hobbes, of course, but anyway....

  36. Gadgets on Infants by Wingie · · Score: 1

    Sure! Let's put choking-size metal things on a baby! I'm sure he won't attempt to munch on your new $300 babycam...

  37. Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Your dog wants to be a 'Beo-wolf' cluster.

    Your Soviet Union wants steak.

    Your dog wants the $50 mail-in rebate coupon.

    Your dog wants first hydrant, err, post.

    Your dog wants karma. (Or would it be your 'Slashdog'?)

    (Finally, way way over the top)Lassie, petrified, covered in Eukanuba.

  38. Re:Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM by mh101 · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean a beo-woof cluster?

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  39. Re:I'm dyslexic you insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, some mod didn't get the joke.

  40. Re:Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Don't you mean a beo-woof cluster?

    Only if the dog in question considers 'wolf' to be a downgrade :-)

    BTW, congrats on 'catching' that Karma 'Bone'-us point with your post ;-> (Now that pun was truly wretched...)

  41. Re:Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM by ShadowFlair · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new canine overlords who will force us to have mandatory walks with them or report us to SPCA.

    Or do they do that already?

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  42. WiFi dog food? by ProtoStar · · Score: 1

    Maybe I should lace his dog food with WiFi chips...

    Then I can put my useless WiFi finder to work so I stop stepping in his sh*%.

    1. Re:WiFi dog food? by arjovenzia · · Score: 1
      You know, I don't think thats a particularly bad idea...

      A Roomba crossed with a some small tracking beacons or perhaps the collar interfaces with its bowels (to know when they have been emptied) and gets the GPS coordinates of each doggy bomb. dog dumps, a little 'bot comes out and and cleans up the mess.

      I know for sure thats the worst part of having a dog is that whenever you want to use your lawn, you have to pick up dog turd. Not fun.

      If there was a product that did that, I know Id use it.

  43. Re:Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and with the networking upgrade your dog can butt-sniff the network. You'll need to help with the intrusion detection and prevention, though...

  44. Indeed. by Draconix · · Score: 1

    I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

    So would I, though I still think a dog would be more useful.

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  45. Go preFetch, Boy! by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    "Engadget has glimpse in to the future, a future where your dog has a cell phone, webcam and electronic tag, and maybe even talks to you. Maybe."

    And with that extra stick of DDR RAM, you can teach an old dog new tricks...

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  46. Ya know... by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I already read the engadget article much much earlier.
    Saddens me to say, but is this the harbinger of the end of /.'s media relevency?

    I mean, if /. continues upon this line of reposting from blogs, wy not just go to the blogs themselves? Or is /.'s future just to be an outlet/media-spokesite for Roland and engadget et al? Why are so many topics not posted here first? While I enjoy free media, is /.so unknown thhat the personal bloggers get the first scoop? If so.... what can be done to change this? Are the editors being too draconian in rejection or have people just lost faith in story acceptance?

    Sorry if you think this post a troll, just a question based upon countless topics posted that have already been posted elsewhere.

    1. Re:Ya know... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has always been just a 'central' location for stories. From CNN, to IEEE.org, to blogs.
      I don't think Slashdot has ever written their own stories(insert thinkgeek jab here)

      I don't know what illusion you have been under.

      What people come here for is the hot grit^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Heerr stimulating conversation.

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    2. Re:Ya know... by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      If so.... what can be done to change this?

      Start a site that competes with slashdot? Perhaps one where the editors can master the basics of grammar and are willing to use a spell-checker? One that posts news articles in a timely fashion, rather than days, weeks, months, or sometimes even *years* later? And one where karma-bombers and folks with vendettas aren't rewarded for their childish behavior?

      Call it something like "No Signal". Oooh, I like that! Copyright! Copyright!

      Max

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    3. Re:Ya know... by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      No illusion.
      I have engadget.com bookmarked because the stories show up there faster. So tell me, do the corps send press releases to them directly and do they even have a press core? No.
      They are no different from /.

      My point which I willl try to make as clear as day is: Why does /. reprint from other reprint sources? It's getting to the point where it's like looking into an Escher drawing. A mirror into a mirror into a mirror.

      Maybe /. is very underground .. but having seen /. articals posted on the homepage of news.google.com leads me to think other have the same impression of /. being a relevent news outlet.

      Being that I've posted a couple stories that were never posted at all.. stories never posted at all whether by me or anyone at all that were entirely relevent to this site, and seeing many similar gripes by other users it leads me to belive that /. has some issues in it's news collection dept. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    4. Re:Ya know... by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      NO.

      IMHO I think that /. just needs to stop playing favs and start cheking links and post thing that are relevant whether or not they think the poster is "acceptable". If the link is there and the source is accurate, they should post. PLenty of time however, they have posted eronious stories. That fact alone demonstrates that/. plays favs and do not fact check.

      Maybe that is the root of the problem.

    5. Re:Ya know... by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      NO.

      YES.

      Maybe that is the root of the problem.

      I think the root of the problem is that slashdot doesn't have any real competition. There are other sites like it but those sites don't have the same appeal. Clone and improve slashdot and I'm willing to bet people will jump to the new site the same way they jumped from older search engines to Google.

      Then Slashdot would have to improve itself in order to compete. Sounds good to me.

      After all, we're always yammering on here about the evils of monopoly and the wonders of competition. Slashdot doesn't get a free pass just because a few geeks can't deal with the idea of 'choice' in their neck of the woods.

      Max

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    6. Re:Ya know... by Gudlyf · · Score: 1
      I agree with you, that Slashdot at least seems to play favorites, especially where ptorrone is concerned. It seems any time I see one of his hack-assery projects listed on Engadget, I can just drum my fingers a few minutes before he's on the wire to pound his chest a bit and post the same crap on Slashdot.

      I like Engadget for its news of new gadgets coming to market and such, but to the do-it-yourself junk (yes...junk), I say, "meh."

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  47. Re:I'm dyslexic you insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, your joke sucked.

  48. The Doggie Web Cam in two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peanut Butter.

  49. You were lucky. by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 1

    I live in Athens GR, and once a *gecko* crapped
    on my file server keyboard!!
    Took me several hours to calm down, and several
    weeks to clean the keyboard (hey: use telnet).

  50. It's better than Elephants by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    they work for peanuts, you know?

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  51. Well, I can't by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every single quality I like in a cat, I've yet to see in a dog. Such as being able to think for itself. (Being that I pretty much fit the stereotype of a Brujah myself.)

    I don't know, maybe some people like the artifficial affection of a species altered and reprogrammed to _need_ a master. No matter how smart it may be, it's just hard-wired to come obey the MASTER.

    (Though I've yet to see any dog displaying anything even vaguely resembling intelligence. I'll have to take it on faith that smart dogs exist, just like flying saucers, yeti and the loch ness monster. Other people swear they saw a smart dog, so they must exist somewhere. Just not near me, 'cause the one I've seen were just a sad case of the owner going "oh look how smart he is!" at just about every dumb reflex, like the dog sniffing his own butt or chewing a stick or being able to find his food bowl.)

    Either way, I find it just sad. It's just as artifficial as getting an email inbox full of "I Love You" (the virus) back then. It's just a program running. It doesn't mean the virus actually loved you.

    What you have there is a species which was originally hard-coded into hunting in groups, obeying the strongest in the group, and marking and defending its hunting territory. Until someone figured out basically "hey, we can reprogram it into thinking that the human is the pack leader and the garden is his territory to defend." So the poor beast continues doing that, no matter if it makes sense in any given situation.

    It dutifully marks its territory on trees, even when it's a tree in the park and 100 other dogs are brought to re-mark it.

    It tries to defend that territory, no matter how dumb it may be in any given situation. Like a tiny Pekinese barking its lungs out at a great dane, not because it's brave, but because it's still mechanically applying a hard-coded reflex from back when they were all the same size. Or like a shopkeeper's dog trying to keep the customers out of the shop, until she learned not to bring the dog in the shop any more.

    And it dutifully obeys even the worst possible master, because somewhere in its tiny brains a circuit says "must obey the pack leader."

    Dunno, I'll take a cat's autonomy over that any day. A cat doesn't have a master. It might see you as a friend if you're nice to it. Or merely a roommate. Or in rare cases an enemy, if you're really bad at that relationship.

    And if you fit in the friend category, you can know that it's genuine, not some hardcoded obedience.

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    1. Re:Well, I can't by ajs318 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once you get to understanding the relationship dogs have with their pack leader -- whether two- or four-legged -- then it all makes sense. As far as the dog is concerned, that is just The Way The World Works, and it really doesn't know any different. A dog will give you [almost] unconditional love, in return for you never giving it cause to fear for its life. Only then will it mount a leadership challenge -- and as likely as not it won't have any real idea how to do this, so the results are unlikely to be pretty. A dog basically wants its "pack leader" to be happy -- or, if it is the pack leader, it has to keep the whole of the rest of the pack safe, well-fed and gainfully employed. As far as a dog is concerned, being the boss is a responsibility too far. It would rather be another member of the pack; that way, it knows it's likely to get fed, and unlikely to have to keep anybody else out of trouble. For one thing, most dogs aren't leadership material anyway -- which is good from the point of view of keeping the pack stable.

      You have to remember that dogs have been living with humans for at least 10000 years, ever since the wolves came down out of the mountains to investigate the strange two-legged creatures that were wandering about on the plains below -- and if they didn't like it, they would have gone back a long time ago. We humans have done a bit of evolving in that time -- we have invented things like civilisation, written languages, agriculture, and had the Industrial and Information Revolutions. Throughout all this, Man's Best Friend has stood loyally by his side -- you can't tell me that the dogs haven't been [mostly] enjoying it.

      Actually there are striking similarities between the behaviour of a pack of wolves / dogs, and office politics. Including the way that domesticated dogs and wolves spectacularly don't get on with one another -- and I think we've all met people who are "too like me for me to like"!

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    2. Re:Well, I can't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      >You have to remember that dogs have been living with humans for at least 10000 years
      I used to hear dogs had been living with humans for 20,000 years but in a recent radio program I heard it stated that recent finds has pushed this back to about 50,000 years ago. Unfortunately noting more specific about this finding was given. Nevertheless it seems selection has changed the nature of dogs a fair bit over the millennia making them truly domesticated.

      As for earlier comments about intelligence of dogs (versus cats) it depends heavily on the race of the dog. I can personally vouch for Tervuerens being one of the sharper knives in the drawers, literally. It often succeeds in outsmarting other dogs, occationally also the owners.

    3. Re:Well, I can't by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      If it makes any difference, I do have some idea how a wolf pack or dog pack works.

      And, as fate would have it, I've also seen a dog-against-human leadership challenge that you mention. Our german shepherd against my brother. You can say it again it's not going to get pretty. Let's just say my brother got a hole through his hand like he was Jesus.

      (And if it makes any difference, I think the dog was better leadership material in that "pack";)

      Still, you see, it's this blind sticking to a hard-coded "The Way The World Works" that I consider dumb. It's not even tradition, it's not intelligently assessing a situation, it's not even working for food. It's a hard-coded reflex.

      If you turned the world upside down tomorrow (even more than these 10,000 years of human evolution already did), the dog would still keep on doing the exact same things. Because the hard-coded program in its brains tells it to.

      And that unconditional hard-wired love reflex is something that personally I have no use for. It's not love, it's not affection, it's hard-coded keeping the pack leader happy.

      It bears as much semblance to real love or friendship, as the "I Love You" virus did. I.e., none whatsoever.

      It makes as much sense as having a computer or PDA programmed to display "I LOVE YOU!" in big letters. It doesn't. It's just a program that does that.

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    4. Re:Well, I can't by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      "And you think your cat likes you, really? After all, if it finds you non-threatening it has been hard-wired to rub its scent on you -- which is basically a means of marking its territory."

      I'll just say you don't know much about cats, then.

      They do mark their territory, true. That's what male cats do when they pee on stuff. If your cat peed on you, _that_ is marking territory.

      Chances are it never did, though. You know why? Because no goddamn animal is so dumb as to try to mark another animal as _territory_.

      There are good reasons and explanations for what a cat does, and why it does that. Some do boil down to reflexes. But, well, come talk to me about it after you actually have some idea about that.

      And here's another thought for you: a cat actually has a lot less hard-coded reflexes than a dog, or than most other animals. They learn from their mother, and from each other. If you ever had a cat give birth and then spend the next month talking to its kittens day and night, now you know what that is. Data transfer. A furry modem if you will.

      If the cat comes and rubs against you, or whatever else, the funny thing is, it probably isn't "hard wired" to do so. Most likely its mother taught it to.

      In a sense you could say the species wasn't as much "domesticated", as it learned on its own (and transmitted the knowledge) how to live safely around humans.

      It's however also very much capable of avoiding you or even running away and living on its own, if it doesn't like you. It doesn't really _need_ you, in the same sense a dog does.

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    5. Re:Well, I can't by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. It seems that your demands of a pet are at odds with a dog's capabilities to supply. That's not your fault, nor is it the dog's fault.

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    6. Re:Well, I can't by sg3000 · · Score: 1

      > Once you get to understanding the relationship dogs have
      > with their pack leader -- whether two- or four-legged -- then
      > it all makes sense.

      That was a really good post.

      It's very difficult to interpret the behavior of an animal that can't talk. Many of us would like to perform a Turing test on the person in the cube next to us, so how could we expect to easily answer the question of whether dogs are intelligent?

      People who like dogs are going to interpret their intelligent-seeming behaviors positively and people who don't like dogs are going to interpret those same behaviors neutrally.

      I've had dogs all my life -- first Sheltland Sheepdogs and now Collies (despite the AKC links, our two Collies are from Collie Rescue; we don't breed or show).

      With my experience, I tend to agree with the idea that dogs are intelligent and far from "a program". Part of that comes from the fact that all of my dogs have had very different personalities. Yes, dogs are often driven by their instincts (marking trees, etc), but so are people. That doesn't make them bereft of intelligence.

      As for outfitting our dogs with electronic gear, I guess I'll be a luddite. We've tagged our dogs with the electronic chip (in case they get lost), but I'm not sure watching a dog-produced web cam will be more than a novelty for most people.

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    7. Re:Well, I can't by JordanArendt · · Score: 1

      ummm. Maybe you should do some research.
      From: about.com
      "Cats are equipped with scent glands on their paw pads; on their cheeks; on the top of the head; and of course, the area that causes guardians the most concern: urine."
      and
      "When thinking about scent communication, draw an imaginary line that divides your cat in half. The scent glands on the front half could be labeled as the "friendly" pheromones. These are used when a cat is marking familiar territory that she considers the heart of her nest. "

      So ya, when a cat rubs their head against you, they usually are marking you as theirs.

    8. Re:Well, I can't by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      why do people see cats and dogs as opposites? dogs aren't anti-cats, nor are cats anti-dogs. they're just animals. i've seen cats with stereotypically dog personalities and vice versa, and to make a generalization like "i like cats" or "i like dogs" is about the same as saying "i like people".

      but, if were talking about the stereotypical ideas of cats and dogs, dogs usually serve their owners, whereas with cats their owners usually serve them. it mostly just depends where you fall on the dependency spectrum.

    9. Re:Well, I can't by Thurn+und+Taxis · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely correct. That's why we have seeing-eye cats, why cops bring cats with them on patrol, and why the Swiss have cats to help them find skiiers who get trapped in avalanches. Because dogs can't think for themselves.

      Hate to break it to you, pal, but your cat is just as hard-wired as any dog (or any human, for that matter); the very fact that you're able to generalize about cat behavior proves this. And dogs are less hard-wired than you think. Every dog I know has a unique personality which is a lot more complicated than the slobbering affection you portray.

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    10. Re:Well, I can't by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      That still doesn't in any way invalidate what I've said. There _are_ things a cat does by instinct. Plenty of them. It still doesn't invalidate the fact that it can think for itself and act autonomously, without needing a "master" to tell it what to do.

      It may mark you as "friendly" with its head. (Something completely different from marking someone as _territory_.) But before that, it had judged you as being indeed a friend. It doesn't run do that to every stranger, like a dog marks every tree or hydrant.

      That's what I meant. If you get a cat's friendship, it means something. It means it at least had a choice, and you could have ended just as well flagged as an enemy to avoid, or as some stranger to be wary of.

      Reducing it all to markings is an oversimplified view, too. If you kicked a cat in the head, it wouldn't automatically come to you because now you have its "friendly" smell on your boot.

      Nor does your cat suddenly stop recognizing you, after you have taken a bath.

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    11. Re:Well, I can't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:Well, I can't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dogs and cats are the two most popular animals to have as pets (at least around the US). Some people like both, but it can be easy to pick one over the other. For instance, I don't like smelly, dirty animals that poke their nose into my crotch and slobber all over my pants.

      So, I like dogs.

    13. Re:Well, I can't by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      For instance, I don't like smelly, dirty animals that poke their nose into my crotch and slobber all over my pants

      amanda? is that you? i didn't know my girlfriend read slashdot!

    14. Re:Well, I can't by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      "That's why we have seeing-eye cats, why cops bring cats with them on patrol, and why the Swiss have cats to help them find skiiers who get trapped in avalanches. Because dogs can't think for themselves."

      Excuse my ignorance, but which of those examples of yours needs _any_ intelligence? I mean, gee, being trained to unconditionally follow an order or use its nose to sniff a trail, that so requires complex thinking and assessing a situation.

      Heh.

      Now I'm not saying it's not useful, though.

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    15. Re:Well, I can't by YourMissionForToday · · Score: 0, Insightful

      It may mark you as "friendly" with its head. (Something completely different from marking someone as _territory_.)

      Not according to animal behavior experts, but what the fuck do they know?

      You gotta love slashdot; argumentative fucks desperately trying to change the subject even when pasted in the face with the facts. Represent!

    16. Re:Well, I can't by Matt_Joyce · · Score: 1

      Some cultures have even evolved a taste for dog meat. How clever we humans are.

  52. Greeeeaaaat. by pmbuko · · Score: 1

    This of course will spark a backlash from tech-fearing dogs everywhere. Just how long will it take for one of them to become the Una-barker and start sending exploding poop packages to unsuspecting researchers?

  53. Funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when does /. allow kids under 14 to moderate?

  54. You know, I thought this was stupid at first, but, by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    I read on and got to the part where they put the camera on the dog's collar. Seeing the world from your dog's point of view is really interesting. It made me appreciate my dog's position in life a little more than I had before.

    Sort of like now that I am disabled and have to see the world and deal with it, from a few feet lower than I used to. I'm recovering from back surgery and have to ride around in those little electric carts you see at wally world and the grocery store. The world is a little bigger and I'm a little smaller now. You don't think about these things until you are actually put into that position, then you rethink the whole world. Our little friends see the world from an even lower elevation and to them, we are giants. Maybe people should see the world from a different point of view sometime and they would be less likely to take certain things for granted.

  55. You misunderstand... by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    cats aren't better, just superior. There is a difference, and the cat knows it.

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  56. Wish I hadn't posted already :) by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the most insightful thing I've read today, and I wish I could mod it up.

    I find it sad that people basically want to shut their kids off and never have to talk to them. The kid is something that should be put on a leash, or at least stay the fsck out of the way, while the parent is busy watching football or the 15'th soap opera for today.

    And when the kid learns something awfully wrong, and the parent never was there for them to teach them otherwise, the parent promptly goes looking for a scapegoat. Nosiree, bob. It wasn't me who's to blame, guv'nor. I never taught him to do drugs and beat other kids up. (Never taught him that it's wrong to do that either, though.) It was those evil game companies and TV companies. Let's sue those.

    Dunno, makes me think of Peter's Principle. Just because they have genitals, people are elligible to be "promoted" to parent. Too bad that half of them are utterly incompetent for that job.

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    1. Re:Wish I hadn't posted already :) by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Too bad that half of them are utterly incompetent for that job.

      Being mighty generous today, aren't we :-0

      Heck, half of them can't even stay married...and they got to choose that person.

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  57. Re:Obligatory references in the spirit of FARK.COM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your dog wants a tinfoil hat

  58. The really, really scary part.... by JimMarch(equalccw) · · Score: 1

    ...is the suspicion that any number of gifted dogs could do a better job as director than half the moviemakers in Hollywood today.

  59. Just bragging... by Maavin · · Score: 1

    after RTFA I decided, that this guy simply wanted us to know he has a 17" Powerbook and a 20" Apple Cinema Display... oh and don't forget the Aibo...

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  60. upgrade your food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Y'know some places dogs are food. Just like cattle. Why go through the expense? and like others said, why not your kid? But wait, isn't that an invasion of privacy waiting to happen? It's a long slippery slope after all.

    Okay, I like dogs and I wouldn't ever eat one, but it strikes me as odd how much expense people go through for their pets, when somewhere else in the world many people could only wish to be treated like that dog, and as far as Fido goes, F is for food, not for friend.

    Though I get really sick of all the annoying gaudy pretensious, self indulged human creatures around here, and to some extent I can see wishing the world to hell cause Fido is the only one on earth whose worth a damn and won't turn around and stab you in the back and also seem greatful and happy to see you. Of course I've also seen pictures of what happens when master dies and Fido goes hungry. So much for a loyal caring friend...

    Hmm, watch television to remind me that I'm beautiful, intelligent, people like me, and I am happy... just don't forget to take your meds and understand we all must sacrifice a little for the greater good of our corporate masters.

    1. Re:upgrade your food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y'know some places dogs are food. Just like cattle. Why go through the expense? and like others said, why not your kid?

      Of course! Nutritious, delicious, and.. oh, wait, maybe I misread that...

  61. doggie cam by randalx · · Score: 1

    I can see the doggie cam being popular with the alt.erotica.female.upskirt and alt.erotica.dog.butt crowd.

  62. yes that's all good but... by sjoelk · · Score: 1

    will it have a frikkin' laser?

  63. Woof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woof, woof woof. Woof woof, woof woof woof. Grrrr woof, woof woof. Grrr. Rover

  64. Definative definition of nerd by Da+Twink+Daddy · · Score: 1
    From the jargon file:

    nerd: n.

    1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary social rituals.
    2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious ironic reference to sense 1) to someone who knows what's really important and interesting and doesn't care to be distracted by trivial chatter and silly status games. Compare geek.

    The word itself appears to derive from the lines "And then, just to show them, I'll sail to Ka-Troo / And Bring Back an It-Kutch, a Preep and a Proo, / A Nerkle, a Nerd, and a Seersucker, too!" in the Dr. Seuss book If I Ran the Zoo (1950). (The spellings 'nurd' and 'gnurd' also used to be current at MIT, where 'nurd' is reported from as far back as 1957; however, knurd appears to have a separate etymology.) How it developed its mainstream meaning is unclear, but sense 1 seems to have entered mass culture in the early 1970s (there are reports that in the mid-1960s it meant roughly "annoying misfit" without the connotation of intelligence.

    Hackers developed sense 2 in self-defense perhaps ten years later, and some actually wear "Nerd Pride" buttons, only half as a joke. At MIT one can find not only buttons but (what else?) pocket protectors bearing the slogan and the MIT seal.

  65. I can picture this by ReidMaynard · · Score: 2, Funny

    A'la Woody Allen ..

    MED SHOT on COMPUTER GEEK and his DOG answering the door to his apartment. The dog is wearing a RED ELECTRONIC GIZMO on his collar.

    Geek opens door.

    CAMERA REVEALS NANCY an attractive girl in a skirt.

    GEEK: Uh.. hi Nancy, come on in.

    Nancy smiles, and start to enter. SUDDENLY the DOG grabs NANCY'S LEG and starts HUMPING MADLY.

    DOG TRANSLATOR: I LOVE YOU
    DOG TRANSLATOR: I AM HAPPY
    DOG TRANSLATOR: DO YOU SEE MY BONE?
    DOG TRANSLATOR: YOU ARE MY BITCH
    DOG TRANSLATOR: I SMELL TREATS
    DOG TRANSLATOR: MARRY ME

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  66. apet-get update by octal666 · · Score: 1

    apet-get upgrade

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  67. Timothy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Posted by timothy on Wednesday September 29, @12:10AM
    from the cats-are-superior dept."

    Timothy, you really are a blazing faggot.

  68. Nobuhira Narumi by lecky · · Score: 1

    Nobuhira Narumi did a dog cam exhibition in London in 1999, which I saw. This artist is represented by the Taro Nasu Gallery in Tokyo, and currently works in NY,NY.

  69. Infants? Seriously? by john_anderson_ii · · Score: 1
    I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants.

    I don't think anyone has the money to keep an infant outfitted such as this. I have a 15 month old baby girl, and let me tell you, she can break a steel marble if she doesn't eat it first. All you have to do is put said steel marble within 15 feet of her and turn your back for an instant. I'd be replacing the webcam and GPS once a day, and picking the damned thing out of her diaper twice a day!

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  70. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it better not be that bloody dog that appears on the XP search. whats next? real life clippys?

  71. Hypocrites! by Cymsdale · · Score: 1

    Not a single mention of the dog's privacy rights.

    For shame :)

  72. Dog to Drivers by Cyco(k) · · Score: 1

    Just what we need dogs on cell phones that can't walk or run. Little/Big dog crashes and doggy benders everywhere.

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  73. Stop messing with our dogs by Vspiritas · · Score: 0

    Will your dog still be your best friend if you can risk the dog act like a 5 year old younger brother who hear something you like to keep private and that is in all innocence being forwarded where it shouldn't.

    In some cases it would of course do good if a dog can tell its story (TURNER AND DOG) but in general it will ruin the relationship of trust you as a human have guaranteed by the limited communication abilities of your dog.

    If you take away the innocence of the dog, you may find yourself to be severely punished when your dog says "but master, why couldn't you leave me alone, grrr... you killed kenny!!!" "ohh master fuck, you aint my master, now who's your daddy" grrr

    "Planet of the Dogs"

    Poor humans, they are so intelligent.

  74. Google Image Search for "dog butt" by jakob_grimm · · Score: 1

    Reveals this:

    Mystery solved

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  75. As long as it can... by Ionizer7 · · Score: 0

    tell the difference between a pop can and a beer can, I don't care what else it can do.

  76. dog upgrade question by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    If you could get a firmware upgrade for an Alsatian, and it was open source, would it come under a GSD licence?

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  77. Of course all it says is 'hey' by sunking2 · · Score: 1

    It's a friggin Cocker Spaniel. Not exactly the apex of dog intelligence, barely above the greyhound and afghan. And what the heck is with a guy owning one in the first place. Get a real dog. 8-)

    1. Re:Of course all it says is 'hey' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brave words about intelligence from someone who happens to be WRONG!

      It's a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. Not a Cocker Spaniel.

    2. Re:Of course all it says is 'hey' by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      Oh please, and I have a Parson Russell Terrier not a Jack Russell Terrier. And besides, Cavalier King Charles Spanial makes it sound even more gay.

    3. Re:Of course all it says is 'hey' by jskiff · · Score: 1

      How about you're both wrong? There are Cavalier King Charles Spaniels +and+ Cocker Spaniels. In fact, there's three types of Cockers: Black, Particolor, and ASCOB (Any Solid Color Other than Black).

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  78. If your dog could talk to you, what would it say? by schmaltz · · Score: 1

    Imagine the computer-generated phone calls you'll be getting at work:

    "Happy!
    Happy!
    Love you!
    Go play!
    Go play!
    Happy!
    Love you!
    Go play!
    Hungry!
    Hungry!
    Sad!
    Love you!"

    I kind of like it that my pet doesn't speak my language!

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  79. Dog Toy or Sex Toy Quiz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just found this fun quiz where you guess where 9 objects are either dog toys or sex toys. None have quessed all 9 yet. How many will you get?
    Dog Toy or Sex toy Quiz

    1. Re:Dog Toy or Sex Toy Quiz by kallistiblue · · Score: 1

      This is funny. Of course it should be. I created that quiz.:)
      The Parent should be modded up.

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  80. Whoa, settle down by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Um, I took the comment "I'd rather see more of these things applied to infants" as a joke that the person would like to have an infantCam view of the world...especially during feeding times..wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more.

    Look for the humor in everything first. You'll live longer.

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  81. Similar idea didn't work out by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny
    A friend of mine was visiting his parents' country house and decided to see how his dog would react to a pager. He clipper the pager to the dog's collar and called the number from his cellphone. I don't know if he meant to have it on "vibrate", but the instant result was his 12-year-old hound leaping straight up into the air, spinning around several times really fast, and running into the woods like he had a demonic ferret in hot pursuit.

    When Dog came back two hours later, the pager was not to be found. Expensive lesson for all involved.

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  82. Well said! Here are a few other tips by neile · · Score: 1

    Very well said, Steve. A couple of other tips:

    1) Get a crate and use it! By using a crate you shrink the size of the "den" immensely.

    2) It'll be rough on you, but your young puppy should not be played with unless he's first gone to the bathroom outside. Take your puppy from the crate directly outside to do his business. If he does, treat, praise, and play. If he doesn't, back into the create for another 10-15 minutes then try again.

    As others have mentioned, an enzymatic cleaner is a must. You will have accidents, and cleaning them up thorougly will prevent another accident in the same spot.

    It's also helpful to train them to go on command. You'll look like an idiot doing this, but when you've got your puppy outside and they're getting ready to go say "Potty!" (or whatever word you want) and praise profusely. Before you know it you'll say "Potty" and they'll unleash whatever's inside.

    Neil

    1. Re:Well said! Here are a few other tips by NerveGas · · Score: 1


      I've tried a crate, and so have other people. Sure, the size of the den shrinks immensely, but... (1) by being smart about taking them out, you can avoid most accidents in the house anyway, and (2) I want the entire house to be recognized as the den as soon as possible.

      Because of those two, as well as the seperation thing (would you lock your human baby in a cage in solitary confinement? Puppies like it even less than human babies), it's just not my cup of tea - and really doesn't seem to get to the final goal any faster than the way I do it.

      steve

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    2. Re:Well said! Here are a few other tips by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      I felt like an idiot telling mac to 'go pee', and after 2 weeks of taking him out in winter at 3am and telling him to 'be quick' and telling him so, that is what stuck (with him and me)

      Now i can just walk up to some grass (preferably) and tell him to 'be quick' and away he goes. 'Any more' works for number twos!

  83. Woah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to reserve slashdog.org now. Watch out pets.com ..... oh, wait.

  84. So what? by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    Can they pickup their crap? Or use a doggie toilet and flush? That would be a real breakthrough.

  85. What I want to do... by Jethro · · Score: 1

    I want to put a harness on my dog, and attach my GPS to her back. We go to an off-leash park every day, and I end up walking about 2.5 miles in a semi-regular path (loop around the park several times, etc).

    I'd love to know what kind of distance she puts on, because she's all over the place, running back and forth, chasing balls, hunting mice, etc.

    However, I have to wait until it's too cold for her to want to hop in the pond and destroy my GSP receiver (:

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  86. Infants vs. Dogs by DanteBlack · · Score: 1

    It's naturall that this was applied to dogs first. Dog's are man's best friend, infants just happen after nine months and then you're stuck with em.

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  87. they tried this with pigeons... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    1908 German Pigeon Fleet... As a remote sensing experiment - I believe they got 1 picture of a castle and a lot they couldn't use...

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  88. Doggie Photographer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool Pictures, well, for a dog.

    But how do you get the dog to wear a Sony HD video camera comfortably?

  89. Quit pimping your damn blog on Slashdot by JimRay · · Score: 1

    I like Phillip Torrone's stuff as much as the next guy, but I wish he'd stop pimping his fucking website out to up his hit count. I can't help but notice that every story he's submitted begins with "Over at Engadget..."

    Dude, if you wanna write about kite photography or search engines, more power to ya, but leave it at that. For the love of God, stop shilling around here, pretending like you have nothing to do with the stories you "find" on Engadget. At least be upfront about it "Hey, I wrote this thing over at this weblog you guys all know about anyway, but my Google Textad revenue is a bit low this week, so help me out, would ya?"

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  90. I have upgraded my dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And now I have a cat!

  91. A cat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have upgraded my dog... And now I have a cat!

    I have upgraded my dog and now I have a bitch!

  92. Sucks to be me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I have upgraded my dog... And now I have a cat!
    I have upgraded my dog and now I have a bitch!
    Even after upgrading my cat, I still don't get any pussy... :(
  93. Pussy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even after upgrading my cat, I still don't get any pussy... :(

    Giving up Slashdot might be a good start. Which is strange since there are so many pussies here...

  94. You can find ANYTHING on the interweb! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $19.99 / month subscriptions, and we're raking in the dough, mr smartass!

  95. YMBNH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called a troll , dumbass. Make an extremely repugnant statment for your audience in order to (hopefully) cause them to examine little more closely at their ill-concieved positions.

  96. Re:umm Milk of AMnesia in the pipeline?? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.... I am surprised I haven't seen any new BioChem-Pharma-Neutr-Nerv-Ceuticles file a patent on the active ingredient in dog hormones.

    A strands of DNA fro Trigger could trigger an avalanche of shitting in humans. This could be better a shitload, umm a shitload better than PhenPhen, unless there is a Fi-Fi or a Poo-Poo or a Puddles to squeeze this matter from.

    Imagine lost worker productivity reports including:

    "Last year in the USA

    -- 7.5 million hours were lost as clerical employees dashed from their desks or tight-buttedly waddled down hallways to do the number 2 after a fierce session of 88-wpm of typing

    -- 9.8 million hours were lost due to fire fighters separating excess baggage on the scene, necessitating backup fire fighters taking up the rear

    --117.2 million hours were lost as transit operators (coach/bus drivers) generated bathroom trip resulting from too many turns around corners (despite power-assisted steering)

    -- Football as a sport is in futher decline every time players drink a power liquid, forcing them into power flush

    -- 99.825 million hours were lost as pharmacists needlessly and frantically scurried or waddled about searching their shelves for Milk of AMNEsia for patients whose pressing needs were not being met by Milk of MAGnesia, and who were demanding "Please help me forget this shit"

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  97. Applied to infants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, such a good idea... get them used to constant survelance at an early age, then when I'm world dictator my life will be so much easier...

  98. I am Rover of Borg by sasenfus · · Score: 1

    Resistance is futile. You will be arf-similated.

  99. What a whiney little post. by Dirk+Pitt · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You distill all of the things that we've come to know and love about dogs to biological imperative, but then explain a cat's positives in terms that, given your premise, should only be applied to human beings:

    a species which was originally hard-coded into hunting in groups, obeying the strongest in the group, and marking and defending its hunting territory

    A cat doesn't have a master. It might see you as a friend if you're nice to it. Or merely a roommate

    I had to laugh when I ran into these two sentences that live in separate, but convenient for you, logical universes.

    The house cat was derived from a solitary predator; it's aloof because, as you've pointed out, it has no inbred allegience to anything. It appears to be your 'friend' because you feed it, or drug it, or stroke its fur exactly the right way. It can be simplified as automata just as easily as a dog. And if you've never seen an intelligent dog, you've never seen one in agility training, or seeing eye dogs, or dogs that occasionally save a drowning child from a pool or its master from a burning house. If you're talking algebra, well, I think we've just entered the lofty heights of Homo sapien.

    After all, who are you to say that human - and certainly cat - love is so different? Could you not distill human love down to the selection of the most genetically attractive partner? Or the biologically programmed imperative to care for a child? Or for the child to feel love for the 'master' that has fed and housed him/her, despite abuses and neglect? Dogs aren't the only ones that feel unconditional affection. I hope your opinions about animal emotion are only biased against Canis familiaris; if you can really see nothing about love and friendship that transcends basic biology, I pity you.

  100. Now you can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    keep track on your bitch

  101. Because dogs are cute and cuddley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyway dogs are considered food in some places. Now they can get a meal and a cell phone.