Right now the Internet is an incivillised place, a sort of new colony, but settled by people who have the benefit of hindsight from the modern societies they have come from. I say let us fight it out for ourselves, establish our own rules, enforecements and bounds of behaviour, not have them imposed from the founding states (physical world).
Whoa, it's like 1992 all over! Tell us, brother, what are your views on Mosaic?
Internet Explorer is free about like it is free for me to have sex with my wife. Sure, no money changes hands for the act, but believe me, getting the package the sex is "bundled" with is very expensive....
You're getting a bum rap. When I have sex with your wife, it only costs $35 for a room at the Super8.
User's benefit from faster downloads in a P2P environment, but it's still nowhere near as fast as a direct download from a fat pipe (at least in my experience).
If you were to download the latest version of Firefox today, you'd be right. But if you've ever tried downloading the latest FF milestone on the day of release, you'd know P2P has a definite advantage.
Since most of these movies are public domain, the companies making the DVDs don't have access to the original negatives. They just grab an old print, one that might've been circulating for several decades, and convert it to digital video. Any real movie fan would spend the extra $15 for a good copy of Night of the Living Dead or Dementia 13.
Yes, read Peter F. Hamilton. Provided you enjoy characters who have so little depth they make Mace Windu look like Hamlet, and prose so awful you could use it for shipping material.
A moronic teacher in high school once tried to convince us of that, but I don't buy this. (And since then I learned much more about ancient languages in college) I think it used to be a softer G type sound.
Well you're wrong. "Gh" is a modern orthographical method for representing the Medieval English letter yogh. From Thomas Garbaty's Medieval English Literature:
The thrid letter, [yogh], is a peculiar chameleon which adapts itself to many situations. Initially, it has the sound of consonantal y (as in Mod. Eng. yacht), where in Modern English it is silent (for example, ME [yogh]if, Mod Eng. if) or hard (ME [yogh]ive, Mod. Eng. give). Medially it is pronounced like ME ch, where in modern English it is silent gh: for example, ME kni[yogh]t, o[yogh]t, Mod. Eng. knight, ought. It even has the sound of final s in some scribal peculiarities (wat[yogh]=was)! All in all, it seems best to play the letter by ear.
Garbaty notes elsewhere that all consonants in Medieval English are indeed pronounced, and kni[yogh]t is k+ni+ch+t.
No, you CAN not "read" as in comprehend in full hardly any paragraph of an original peace from Shakespeare today.
If you were talking about Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, you'd have a point. But Shakespeare, even in editions without the standardized spelling, should be comprehensible to anyone with the brain capacity to decipher 1337.
A) Chaucer's works are spelled phonetically. The "misspellings" indicate how the words would've been pronounced in Middle English. You could run them through spell-check and get something that looks like modern English, but the rhythm would be all wrong.
B) Despite that, if you go into Borders or Barnes and Noble, all you're likely to find are modern translations. You pretty much have to go to a college bookstore to find Chaucer in the original language.
I'm sure you're right, but the irony is that last time Indymedia's UK servers were siezed, it was by the FBI.
That's an extremely simplified explanation. A more accurate description of events would be that the Italians wanted information on the British Indymedia servers, but since Indymedia is an American company, they had to send the request through the FBI, who then took part in the seizure to ensure that this diadem of American capitalism wasn't screwed over by the nasty fur'ners.
Like most countries that try to oppress the free press other laws are used as an excuse to attack journalists. Otherwise would people and other countries probably make a bigger fuss.
One of the best known cases in the US is Mumia Abu Jamal which you can read more about at http://www.mumia.org./
Yes, Mumia Abu Jamal was jailed because he was going to reveal the secrets of MK Ultra and how it relates to the Kennedy assassination, not because he's a, you know, murderer.
The problem with Project Gutenberg is that it has to rely upon public domain translations, which aren't necessarily the best and rarely include substantial notes.
My neighborhood is on the border between one satellite pass and the next. Some areas are bright green because the satellite was overhead in late afternoon during spring or summer, but others are brownish because they were done in autumn.
If you know they're there, any would-be attackers know it.Besides, showing those missiles would be a serious deterrent.
Knowing that the White House is guarded by AA batteries is not the same as knowing what types of missiles they have and where they're located.
Compare the situation to a grocery or department store -- you know there are a lot of black domes on the ceiling that could be hiding cameras, but you don't know how many actually are or where they're pointing. Telling people that there are cameras present is a deterence, but letting them know exactly where the cameras are gives too much information to would-be shoplifters.
Please stop this paranoid nonsense. Terrorist attacks kill far less people than smoking misguided military adventures by a rogue state somewhere in North America that isn't Canada or Mexico, or drunk driving.
Less likely, but still non-zero. When you're doing risk analysis, if something has only a 1% chance of happening, but the consequences would be catastrophic, it's prudent to take precautions. And keeping the military defenses of the Chief Executive's mansion secret is a perfectly sensible precaution.
Great, now all the freaks and pedophiles and psycho freaks will be roaming the normal people channels.
They already are. From the full article (emphasis added):
Among the thousands of chat room titles, where people can look for common interests like music or movies, there are other rooms with some disturbing titles, such as:
9-17-Year-Olds Wantin' Sex
Younger Girls 4 Older Guys
Girls 13 And Under For Older Guys
Girls 13 And Up For Much Older Man
Girls 8 to 13 Watch Boys (In A Particular Sex Act)
The station found all of those rooms listed as education chat rooms
These were normal chatrooms, not the ones in the adult section.
Yeah "9-17-Year-Olds Wantin' Sex" doesn't imply that anything illicit is going on at all.
Since the average Yahoo! chat room consists of 20 porn bots declaring that they're hot and horny and on cam right now, and 20 guys PMing the porn bots asking, "asl?", then no, really the titles don't really indicate something illicit going on.
Why would you ever do otherwise? Amazon's prices aren't so much better than brick and mortar stores (and being in WA state, I have to pay sales tax at Amazon like I would in a local store), and you don't have to pay shipping and handling if you buy locally.
Which is well and good if you read the sort of books Borders or B&N have in stock. But if you want to, say, read the latest Charlie Stross novel, you're screwed (I have a Borders and B&N within a mile of my house; neither carry anything other than Singularity Sky). If you want any horror fiction written between 1900 and 1970 that's not by H.P. Lovecraft or Mythos related, you're screwed. If you want to read the lais of Marie de France or romances of Chretien de Troyes, you're screwed. If you want to read a classical Greek or Roman author who's not part of the random handful carried by the story, you're screwed. Basically, if you have literary taste that's slightly out of the mainstream, you're screwed.
Granted, they had a VERY rocky start, but they have become the online store. Sure, you have other niche stores like NewEgg, and electronic versions of physical stores like WalMart.com, but when most people think to themselves "Can I get that cheaper online", they go straight to Amazon.com.
Which makes me wonder if people are looking at the prices when they use Amazon. Amazon seems to be charging cover price on most paperbacks now, and their CDs are about the same price as Circuit City and Best Buy -- and that's before S&H. They still have their massive selection as a selling point, but so does every other online store.
Actually, it sounds like the scientists were watching The Final Countdown -- if you try to kill your parents (or destroy the Japanese fleet before it attacks Pearl Harbor) a vortex will appear and suck you back to your present.
Maybe certain right wingers thought left wingers would do this, because it's exactly what those right wingers would do and there's a belief that the left has a similar mindset?And in response, perhaps the fears of left wingers here is because we've realised that, because it follows a pattern.
So when the other side believes something, it's because they're evil minded sonsuvbitches, but when you believe the equivalent... it's because the other side is full of evil minded sonsuvbitches?
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Or rather, a proof that much of the left wing hasn't realized how many democrats have sold out to the right in the guise of being "centrist".
Let me see if I follow this discussion.
P: Aghh! It's censorship. Nasty censorship! Gah, evil Republican censorship!
Q: Um, actually it's evil Democrat censorship.
P: Well, the guy's obviously not a real Democrat.
Quite a brilliant argument -- your party is always right, because anything it does wrong doesn't really represent your party.
So, uh, are the Republicans also the people who've tried to ban Huck Finn from schools for "racist" content?
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Obviously Google is funding the ESA in preparation of launching mars.google.com.
Right now the Internet is an incivillised place, a sort of new colony, but settled by people who have the benefit of hindsight from the modern societies they have come from. I say let us fight it out for ourselves, establish our own rules, enforecements and bounds of behaviour, not have them imposed from the founding states (physical world).
Whoa, it's like 1992 all over! Tell us, brother, what are your views on Mosaic?
Don't you dare try and claim Orwell for the right. He's a Godless anti-state commie, thank you very much.
Yup, he was a card carrying lefty. Just like Christopher Hitchens and Paul Wolfowitz.
Internet Explorer is free about like it is free for me to have sex with my wife. Sure, no money changes hands for the act, but believe me, getting the package the sex is "bundled" with is very expensive....
You're getting a bum rap. When I have sex with your wife, it only costs $35 for a room at the Super8.
User's benefit from faster downloads in a P2P environment, but it's still nowhere near as fast as a direct download from a fat pipe (at least in my experience).
If you were to download the latest version of Firefox today, you'd be right. But if you've ever tried downloading the latest FF milestone on the day of release, you'd know P2P has a definite advantage.
Since most of these movies are public domain, the companies making the DVDs don't have access to the original negatives. They just grab an old print, one that might've been circulating for several decades, and convert it to digital video. Any real movie fan would spend the extra $15 for a good copy of Night of the Living Dead or Dementia 13.
Yes, read Peter F. Hamilton. Provided you enjoy characters who have so little depth they make Mace Windu look like Hamlet, and prose so awful you could use it for shipping material.
Well you're wrong. "Gh" is a modern orthographical method for representing the Medieval English letter yogh. From Thomas Garbaty's Medieval English Literature:Garbaty notes elsewhere that all consonants in Medieval English are indeed pronounced, and kni[yogh]t is k+ni+ch+t.
Oh, yeah, and it's a movie.
No, it's a play that was adapted into a surprisingly awful movie.So it's not like you're reading in the first place...
Funny, I have the script on my bookshelf....
No, you CAN not "read" as in comprehend in full hardly any paragraph of an original peace from Shakespeare today.
If you were talking about Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, you'd have a point. But Shakespeare, even in editions without the standardized spelling, should be comprehensible to anyone with the brain capacity to decipher 1337.
A) Chaucer's works are spelled phonetically. The "misspellings" indicate how the words would've been pronounced in Middle English. You could run them through spell-check and get something that looks like modern English, but the rhythm would be all wrong.
B) Despite that, if you go into Borders or Barnes and Noble, all you're likely to find are modern translations. You pretty much have to go to a college bookstore to find Chaucer in the original language.
Yeah, but it's CmdrTaco duping an article Timothy posted. That's gotta be a first.
I'm sure you're right, but the irony is that last time Indymedia's UK servers were siezed, it was by the FBI.
That's an extremely simplified explanation. A more accurate description of events would be that the Italians wanted information on the British Indymedia servers, but since Indymedia is an American company, they had to send the request through the FBI, who then took part in the seizure to ensure that this diadem of American capitalism wasn't screwed over by the nasty fur'ners.
But your description is much more succinct.
So tell me, in which country can you be sued for libel/slander for making factually correct statements about someone?
Like most countries that try to oppress the free press other laws are used as an excuse to attack journalists. Otherwise would people and other countries probably make a bigger fuss. One of the best known cases in the US is Mumia Abu Jamal which you can read more about at http://www.mumia.org./
Yes, Mumia Abu Jamal was jailed because he was going to reveal the secrets of MK Ultra and how it relates to the Kennedy assassination, not because he's a, you know, murderer.
The problem with Project Gutenberg is that it has to rely upon public domain translations, which aren't necessarily the best and rarely include substantial notes.
My neighborhood is on the border between one satellite pass and the next. Some areas are bright green because the satellite was overhead in late afternoon during spring or summer, but others are brownish because they were done in autumn.
If you know they're there, any would-be attackers know it.Besides, showing those missiles would be a serious deterrent.
Knowing that the White House is guarded by AA batteries is not the same as knowing what types of missiles they have and where they're located.
Compare the situation to a grocery or department store -- you know there are a lot of black domes on the ceiling that could be hiding cameras, but you don't know how many actually are or where they're pointing. Telling people that there are cameras present is a deterence, but letting them know exactly where the cameras are gives too much information to would-be shoplifters.
Please stop this paranoid nonsense. Terrorist attacks kill far less people than smoking misguided military adventures by a rogue state somewhere in North America that isn't Canada or Mexico, or drunk driving.
Less likely, but still non-zero. When you're doing risk analysis, if something has only a 1% chance of happening, but the consequences would be catastrophic, it's prudent to take precautions. And keeping the military defenses of the Chief Executive's mansion secret is a perfectly sensible precaution.
They already are. From the full article (emphasis added):These were normal chatrooms, not the ones in the adult section.
Yeah "9-17-Year-Olds Wantin' Sex" doesn't imply that anything illicit is going on at all.
Since the average Yahoo! chat room consists of 20 porn bots declaring that they're hot and horny and on cam right now, and 20 guys PMing the porn bots asking, "asl?", then no, really the titles don't really indicate something illicit going on.
Why would you ever do otherwise? Amazon's prices aren't so much better than brick and mortar stores (and being in WA state, I have to pay sales tax at Amazon like I would in a local store), and you don't have to pay shipping and handling if you buy locally.
Which is well and good if you read the sort of books Borders or B&N have in stock. But if you want to, say, read the latest Charlie Stross novel, you're screwed (I have a Borders and B&N within a mile of my house; neither carry anything other than Singularity Sky). If you want any horror fiction written between 1900 and 1970 that's not by H.P. Lovecraft or Mythos related, you're screwed. If you want to read the lais of Marie de France or romances of Chretien de Troyes, you're screwed. If you want to read a classical Greek or Roman author who's not part of the random handful carried by the story, you're screwed. Basically, if you have literary taste that's slightly out of the mainstream, you're screwed.
Granted, they had a VERY rocky start, but they have become the online store. Sure, you have other niche stores like NewEgg, and electronic versions of physical stores like WalMart.com, but when most people think to themselves "Can I get that cheaper online", they go straight to Amazon.com.
Which makes me wonder if people are looking at the prices when they use Amazon. Amazon seems to be charging cover price on most paperbacks now, and their CDs are about the same price as Circuit City and Best Buy -- and that's before S&H. They still have their massive selection as a selling point, but so does every other online store.
Actually, it sounds like the scientists were watching The Final Countdown -- if you try to kill your parents (or destroy the Japanese fleet before it attacks Pearl Harbor) a vortex will appear and suck you back to your present.
Maybe certain right wingers thought left wingers would do this, because it's exactly what those right wingers would do and there's a belief that the left has a similar mindset?And in response, perhaps the fears of left wingers here is because we've realised that, because it follows a pattern.
... it's because the other side is full of evil minded sonsuvbitches?
So when the other side believes something, it's because they're evil minded sonsuvbitches, but when you believe the equivalent