All this comment says to me is that you don't know what you're talking about. Many of us use the same applications now that we did in SP1 without any appreciable difference.
If you're going to troll, at least find something valid to complain about.
The next obvious question would be: why doesn't X11 come properly configured with and get set up with good fonts to begin with? Why do we need to play this silly configuration game? You don't have to with every other major desktop-based operating system.
That's a pretty big assumption. Are you just saying it to get a rise out of people? Even if some people get the misconception that MS invented this, you can't really blame Microsoft because some people are ignorant.
To be fair, you should also mention that the Linux zealots will be out there too, trying to slag everything that isn't Linux for the sake of it not being Linux.
Watch who you take funding from. It doesn't matter if you're as objective as you can possibly be, if you get funded by anything even remotely associated with one camp or the other, the hardcore geeks won't trust a word you say.
Damn, how the hell did this story get accepted? That is by far the UGLIEST thing I've ever seen. What's next, is slashdot going to try to bring back 80's hairstyles?
I've lost a great deal of respect for Linus at this point. After all these years of having relatively good arguments and being a mature leader, he comes out with this FUD? I think his status has finally gone to his head.
I use gnome at work, because *it works*. I don't need Linus sitting there telling me that I shouldn't use what I like, any more than I should be sitting there picking apart the many faults of KDE.
I know you wrote this as a joke, but it may amuse you to find you're not that far off. According to this review, the battery life is about 57 minutes. A truly pathetic excuse for a portable.
Ajax, which consists of HTML, JavaScript technology, DHTML, and DOM[..]
This came out of someone from IBM? I fear for the species if this is the case. Wake up! DHTML is just Javascript and HTML - you know, another one of those silly terms thought up to describe combinations of existing things. It's not something exclusive. This 'expert' should learn to get his terms straight.
Yes. The reason I can say this, is that I work for a corporation as a developer where part of what we do is selling ads. Not only do they work, they are highly lucrative. Lets just say in less than a month, the system makes way more than enough to pay my wage for a year.
A lot of people think internet advertising is dead, but look at how much is still around. Do you really think there would be so many ads on so many sites if it wasn't making money?
Why is any mention of podcasting immediatly associated with Apple? Editors, learn the language. Podcasting does not imply an Apple subject - quit categorizing it as such.
I have no idea what can replace the term 'podcast', but it should be replaced with something less ambiguous, which is not tied to Apple. Jobs does deserve some credit though, it was a brilliant stroke of marketing genius to get a term which was tied (albiet wrongly) to an Apple product accepted as an English word - but I think this contributes to the thought that Apple is not the white knight many people think it is. I mean, English as a language is amazingly ambiguous as it is, we shouldn't further contribute to watering it down with terms that don't accurately describe what people say they mean.
I agree with you that it is something of a viral term (like so many others these days) which people will use. I think I'm just going to have to throw it on the stack along with others which are also silly. AJAX comes to mind, as does DHTML. Surprisingly, many see these as independant 'technologies' when really they shouldn't be seen as such. I hope 'podcasting' is not viewed in the same light.
You obviously do not understand my argument. There's no need to bring fork terrorism and other analogies into the discussion.
I do, your argument is stupid. It provides no supporting facts or details, just your rabid screaming about PHP, and how it's going to rape my dog, and kill my hamster.
What it comes down to is that PHP is not well designed, and is not well engineered. This is shown by the numerous security issues involving PHP (even on systems that have been designed, set up and maintained regularly by experienced professionals). Don't take my word for it! Go do some research for yourself.
I'm not making any claim about the engineering process of PHP, you are. If anyone should be gathering information, it should be you. Then perhaps you could start to back up your ridiculous claims.
As for your attack on GCC, well, that just shows how clueless you are about such matters. GCC is one of the best engineered pieces of software in the open source world. It has professionals working on it, and that is shown by the extremely high quality of it. And StackGuard shatters your argument about C being insecure.
I didn't attack GCC. I said "your argument sounds like this" and then drew conclusions using your own flawed logic. Of course banning GCC would be silly. But then, so would banning PHP. Next time, read the whole sentence.
It may hurt your ego to admit it, but PHP is not a very good product. It has far too many deficiencies, and as such is unsuitable for serious use.
It doesn't hurt my ego one bit. PHP does have some issues, but I find those issues to be in the feature set. These 'deficiencies' you keep talking about never really get mentioned anywhere in your posts, are we supposed to just take your word for it? Or did you plan on giving us some supporting facts? Incidently I hate to burst your bubble, but PHP does get used for large projects with great results. Look around the internet, PHP has a large following. At the corporation I work for, we've leveraged PHP quite well, and it has made us all a lot of money. Granted, PHP is not the best solution in all cases. If you use it for what it was intended (as a web templating language), it works quite well. Perhaps one day when you make it out of your mother's basement, and join the real workforce, you'll understand this.
Congratulations Slashdot, yet again you've fallen victim to the Apple marketing machine. Podcasting wasn't invented by Apple, they just want you to think it was. Even Oxford terms it "a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player". The word itself is stupid; you don't need an iPod to podcast (even though many are going to think the 'pod' part is refering to an iPod, it means any portable media player) and you don't have to do it with a live broadcast (it can be prerecorded, and stored on the device). It's amazing how gullable people are. In a few years, everyone is probably going to be talking about how Apple innovated this, when really, they did no such thing. All they did was pull together a bunch of technologies invented by other people who won't get credit for it, and called it their own.
If Microsoft had done this, everyone would be screaming about it.
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The statement is invalid when nothing is provided to back it up. He runs around screaming that PHP is going to kill your dog, and then doesn't tell you why.
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Perhaps you could outline some of these flaws in detail? You seem to think you know what you're talking about, but I have some serious doubts.
You sorta of come off as a disgruntled Perl programmer who had his job displaced by another language.
That has to be the worst argument I've ever seen. PHP doesn't pose many security problems, and those that it did does pose get fixed rapidly. The 'security risks' you see are due to 1) improper system administration and 2) badly written user code - neither of which can be blamed on PHP.
Your argument is goes something like this: "Because someone stabbed somoene else with a fork, we should rally together and make sure forks are banned from all households". You may as well form an anti-C coalition while you're at it, because there are a lot of insecure C applications out there. Perhaps we can get GCC removed from distrobutions as well.
Did you know some professional film makers still use Betamax because it has superior image quality to the VHS format? If you're trying to flame PHP, you picked a really bad way to do it.
I did. I think it was one of those totally uncalled for comments too, like most color commentary that reaches the front page of slashdot. They could have posted a summary that didn't have such trollish undertones. It doesn't matter that it's article text, they chose that specific exerpt because it contained an anti-microsoft sentiment. Not that it's any surprise, I'm pretty sure articles get selected on that criteria as often as possible.
This should be a place where we get technology articles about interesting things, it shouldn't be used like some kid who has a grudge.
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All this comment says to me is that you don't know what you're talking about. Many of us use the same applications now that we did in SP1 without any appreciable difference.
If you're going to troll, at least find something valid to complain about.
The next obvious question would be: why doesn't X11 come properly configured with and get set up with good fonts to begin with? Why do we need to play this silly configuration game? You don't have to with every other major desktop-based operating system.
That's a pretty big assumption. Are you just saying it to get a rise out of people? Even if some people get the misconception that MS invented this, you can't really blame Microsoft because some people are ignorant.
To be fair, you should also mention that the Linux zealots will be out there too, trying to slag everything that isn't Linux for the sake of it not being Linux.
Watch who you take funding from. It doesn't matter if you're as objective as you can possibly be, if you get funded by anything even remotely associated with one camp or the other, the hardcore geeks won't trust a word you say.
Damn, how the hell did this story get accepted? That is by far the UGLIEST thing I've ever seen. What's next, is slashdot going to try to bring back 80's hairstyles?
..how about something that isn't animal crossing, and doesn't contain the standard set of nintendo icons?
So what you're telling us is that the DS only has one game worth playing?
[..]and there's nothing more unpleasant than waiting for a Java app to load. Than waiting for Eclipse to load.
Yes, I truly hate losing that 10 seconds out of my day. Just think of what I could accomplish if I had it all back!
I've lost a great deal of respect for Linus at this point. After all these years of having relatively good arguments and being a mature leader, he comes out with this FUD? I think his status has finally gone to his head.
I use gnome at work, because *it works*. I don't need Linus sitting there telling me that I shouldn't use what I like, any more than I should be sitting there picking apart the many faults of KDE.
I know you wrote this as a joke, but it may amuse you to find you're not that far off. According to this review, the battery life is about 57 minutes. A truly pathetic excuse for a portable.
I don't know which Java fanboy flagged this as flamebait, but it's entirely correct.
Which, surprisingly enough, you do with javascript.
I don't know what you think you mean by that statement, but consider putting more thought in to it.
It's not 'like' Javascript at all. It *is* javascript. The XMLHTTPRequest object to be exact.
Ajax, which consists of HTML, JavaScript technology, DHTML, and DOM[..]
This came out of someone from IBM? I fear for the species if this is the case. Wake up! DHTML is just Javascript and HTML - you know, another one of those silly terms thought up to describe combinations of existing things. It's not something exclusive. This 'expert' should learn to get his terms straight.
Yes. The reason I can say this, is that I work for a corporation as a developer where part of what we do is selling ads. Not only do they work, they are highly lucrative. Lets just say in less than a month, the system makes way more than enough to pay my wage for a year.
A lot of people think internet advertising is dead, but look at how much is still around. Do you really think there would be so many ads on so many sites if it wasn't making money?
Why is any mention of podcasting immediatly associated with Apple? Editors, learn the language. Podcasting does not imply an Apple subject - quit categorizing it as such.
I have no idea what can replace the term 'podcast', but it should be replaced with something less ambiguous, which is not tied to Apple. Jobs does deserve some credit though, it was a brilliant stroke of marketing genius to get a term which was tied (albiet wrongly) to an Apple product accepted as an English word - but I think this contributes to the thought that Apple is not the white knight many people think it is. I mean, English as a language is amazingly ambiguous as it is, we shouldn't further contribute to watering it down with terms that don't accurately describe what people say they mean.
I agree with you that it is something of a viral term (like so many others these days) which people will use. I think I'm just going to have to throw it on the stack along with others which are also silly. AJAX comes to mind, as does DHTML. Surprisingly, many see these as independant 'technologies' when really they shouldn't be seen as such. I hope 'podcasting' is not viewed in the same light.
You obviously do not understand my argument. There's no need to bring fork terrorism and other analogies into the discussion.
I do, your argument is stupid. It provides no supporting facts or details, just your rabid screaming about PHP, and how it's going to rape my dog, and kill my hamster.
What it comes down to is that PHP is not well designed, and is not well engineered. This is shown by the numerous security issues involving PHP (even on systems that have been designed, set up and maintained regularly by experienced professionals). Don't take my word for it! Go do some research for yourself.
I'm not making any claim about the engineering process of PHP, you are. If anyone should be gathering information, it should be you. Then perhaps you could start to back up your ridiculous claims.
As for your attack on GCC, well, that just shows how clueless you are about such matters. GCC is one of the best engineered pieces of software in the open source world. It has professionals working on it, and that is shown by the extremely high quality of it. And StackGuard shatters your argument about C being insecure.
I didn't attack GCC. I said "your argument sounds like this" and then drew conclusions using your own flawed logic. Of course banning GCC would be silly. But then, so would banning PHP. Next time, read the whole sentence.
It may hurt your ego to admit it, but PHP is not a very good product. It has far too many deficiencies, and as such is unsuitable for serious use.
It doesn't hurt my ego one bit. PHP does have some issues, but I find those issues to be in the feature set. These 'deficiencies' you keep talking about never really get mentioned anywhere in your posts, are we supposed to just take your word for it? Or did you plan on giving us some supporting facts? Incidently I hate to burst your bubble, but PHP does get used for large projects with great results. Look around the internet, PHP has a large following. At the corporation I work for, we've leveraged PHP quite well, and it has made us all a lot of money. Granted, PHP is not the best solution in all cases. If you use it for what it was intended (as a web templating language), it works quite well. Perhaps one day when you make it out of your mother's basement, and join the real workforce, you'll understand this.
Congratulations Slashdot, yet again you've fallen victim to the Apple marketing machine. Podcasting wasn't invented by Apple, they just want you to think it was. Even Oxford terms it "a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player". The word itself is stupid; you don't need an iPod to podcast (even though many are going to think the 'pod' part is refering to an iPod, it means any portable media player) and you don't have to do it with a live broadcast (it can be prerecorded, and stored on the device). It's amazing how gullable people are. In a few years, everyone is probably going to be talking about how Apple innovated this, when really, they did no such thing. All they did was pull together a bunch of technologies invented by other people who won't get credit for it, and called it their own.
If Microsoft had done this, everyone would be screaming about it.
The statement is invalid when nothing is provided to back it up. He runs around screaming that PHP is going to kill your dog, and then doesn't tell you why.
Perhaps you could outline some of these flaws in detail? You seem to think you know what you're talking about, but I have some serious doubts.
You sorta of come off as a disgruntled Perl programmer who had his job displaced by another language.
That has to be the worst argument I've ever seen. PHP doesn't pose many security problems, and those that it did does pose get fixed rapidly. The 'security risks' you see are due to 1) improper system administration and 2) badly written user code - neither of which can be blamed on PHP.
Your argument is goes something like this: "Because someone stabbed somoene else with a fork, we should rally together and make sure forks are banned from all households". You may as well form an anti-C coalition while you're at it, because there are a lot of insecure C applications out there. Perhaps we can get GCC removed from distrobutions as well.
Did you know some professional film makers still use Betamax because it has superior image quality to the VHS format? If you're trying to flame PHP, you picked a really bad way to do it.
I did. I think it was one of those totally uncalled for comments too, like most color commentary that reaches the front page of slashdot. They could have posted a summary that didn't have such trollish undertones. It doesn't matter that it's article text, they chose that specific exerpt because it contained an anti-microsoft sentiment. Not that it's any surprise, I'm pretty sure articles get selected on that criteria as often as possible.
This should be a place where we get technology articles about interesting things, it shouldn't be used like some kid who has a grudge.
Throwing chairs, huh? Couldn't figure out who *that* was.
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