Where the Italian guy is found speaking Portuguese in a British channel.
Native-like Brazilian Portuguese, to be more precise.
From this article (in portuguese language) it seems that he was born in Brazil (he has dual italian-brazilian citizenship) and his family strongly kept their italian identity. Also, he is a public servant in Curitiba.
First of all, not all smokers smoke in the front of their computers. There are ones, like me, who don't smoke indoors at all.
About the "let the smokers pay for that" it's just a smoker-hater argument. We are already pay heavy taxes for each pack of cigarrettes.
We already suffer restrictions on where we can smoke AND we have to suffer public demonstrations of disgust from anti-smoking bigots, or unwanted advices.
I don't drink (at all), and lots of bad things happen related to alcoholic beverages consumption (fights, car accidents etc), and it does not matter where you drank (so no-drink zones would not prevent that). I'm very comfortable with a alcohol ban. What do you think?
I don't have a car, I don't drive. It's my choice. Public transportation saves fuel and pollutes less (oh, my poor lungs considering each of your particular cars exhausting pollution!). Should we ban private cars? Well, I could say yes.. It does not affect me at all!
What about football (the one called 'soccer' in USA)? I've seen masses of people doing ugly things in the streets after a match (fights, lynching, destruction of anything in the area etc). It does happen from time to time and all what the police can do is to control them in order to avoid major problems. - My taxpayer's money goes to the police. I don't like football. Should we ban it too? From my point of view it's OK.
Etc etc etc
Extend this level of interference to the things YOU do. How do you like that?
I don't suppose you've ever heard of BASIC before, have you? You know, the language that was on the computer in your own fucking username? The most popular implementation of it even today remains Microsoft Basic, which was initally developed by...wait for it...Paul Allen and _Bill Gates_./p>
Even better, he developed the C64 basic since Commodore licensed it from MS.
Well, MS did develop Amiga Basic and I thank them for that.
Amiga Basic was so horrible that made me give up programming in Basic and switch to Pascal, then C.
These errors wouldn't be tolerated with ATM machines because the public seems to care a lot more if their bank account is fraked with but not so much their vote for some reason...
[Citation Needed]
Are you thinking of the same ATMs that I am?
Many ATMs are Windows running on commodity hardware.
I've seen a few whose entire functionality is a java applet sitting on the desktop.
I can't dispute your assertion that "the public seems to care,"
but I will dispute your claim that "these errors wouldn't be tolerated".
I dispute the claim because we don't know.
ATM mfgs & banks don't report to anyone.
There are no statistics to prove or disprove the security of ATMs.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but if you consider the Banco do Brasil, the biggest bank in Latin America:
The ATMs currently run a custom (in-house-compiled) version of OS/2.
The bank is switching to a custom version of Linux (the userland code, naturally, is developed by themselves aswell).
About the banking system, in Brazil all the financial transactions from all banks are reported to the Banco Central do Brasil (Central Bank of Brazil) and the data is cross-checked.
I work in the election system here in Brasil (ok, "Brazil"). It happens that Im a computer science student, but they take anyone "at random" and make them work that day or I would have to pay a fine. OTOH, I could, theoricly , take 2 days off. (ha! we live in capitalism. Of course I work as if I never had this 2 days off)
If your employer doesn't give you the days off, he's violating a Federal Law:
Art. 98 Law 9.504/1997.
this is a Unix joke (also in BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac, and Windows [with additional software])
Agreed, it's all the same family:
Linux - Popular with girls and has a good job.
*BSD - Older brother. Talented but not so recognized. Thinks Linux is an ass.
OS X - The artist in the family. Father BSD Sr. stopped talking to him after knowing on his alternative lifestyle.
Solaris - The uncle.
Windows - The adopted roma kid.
What about those crazy women with 4 color receptors [tomes.biz]. They are real life mutants! Are we going to get some gene therapy like that?
I'm not sure I would want that.
All color movies and photographs up now are recorded for a audience of tricromats. Watching movies, seeing your family pictures, browsing the internet etc would probably look poor to tetracromats.
o Who is a "trusted" editor?
o What is the qualification process for earning "trust"?
I guess that would be in a way similar to how they set certain users as administrators.
In pt.wikipedia that would mean:
- Experience, by number of edits. That's the Wikipedia's equivalent of karma whoring, where users do pedantic (when not completely useless) modifications just for the sake of it.
- Politics. People befriending administrators with the same political affiliation (scum like this comes to my mind) or the same religion/sect/whatever (like evangelicals in general).
Argentinian ISPs do this every fucking day since forever.
Feel free to move to Brazil, land of telecoms which mutilate VoIP connections (so they can sell you their phone services), oversell bandwidth and may suffer network collapse for hours... And nobody gets punished, as usual.
As a bonus you'll get a unrepentant, hopelessly corrupt government.
Just name each machine with an ID and put the information in a spreadsheet somewhere
I would rather say it depends on how many machines we're talking about.
If you have just a few servers (10 or so) you may give any cute name you like.
Your network may grow though. So, the day you see your prompt with a root@mariobros# and ask yourself whether if that the firewall for XYZ network or a DNS server, it's the day you have to drop that creative naming.
If you're dealing with 40, 70 or so servers the best thing IMO is to simply name them after their functionality (dns1, dns2.. ldap1, ldap2 etc).
If your structure is much bigger than that, a boring serial code may be the only way to keep things under control. But if is that the case you probably know that.
It's only a small step from testing for these purported genes in kids, to testing for 'em in embryo bits. Then we get eugenics and kid selection, and surprise, there's a superhuman race inheriting the earth. *shrug* I think we all know how these things go.
Truth is Windows will be around for a long long time, even if not on the home business, there is just too many corporations relying on windows for it to sink.
I do believe the user base at home will decline heavily (Free Product vs Highly priced crap), but the corporate business wont trust a Google OS for many years to come.
Big companies (Banks specially, I work at one) are very slow adopters.
I can't say specifically about Google OS, but there's the case of massive migration to Linux of Banco do Brasil which currently is the 2nd biggest bank in Latin America (was the 1st before the fusion of two other brazilian banks).
They migrated their PCs to Linux and now are about to migrate their ATMs to Linux aswell (currently running a customized OS/2 version). Few weeks ago I saw a demonstration of the new ATMs at the FISL, which are now in testing phase.
The other OS they use now run in their servers which is, unsurprisingly, AIX.
Thus I would say such kind of migration is possible.
Yup, I remember that discussion, I even replied that as AC in case things turned ugly.
Regarding games at least, I don't think that trying to please everyone being politically correct is the way to go: you end up being artificial and no one will be satisfied anyway.
That kind of subject reminds me of certain soap operas produced in the US, where every single person is black (except for one neighboor and, perhaps, the postman). -- I always found that strange, it felt to me like some sort of "happy apartheid".
And even if you stick with interlaced signals like those of the Dreamcast, PS2, and newer consoles, there are brazilians of people who would disagree with you. Brazil uses PAL-M, which is PAL60 where even the color subcarrier has been moved down to NTSC frequencies.
PAL60 != PAL-M, though both operate at 60Hz.
PAL-M is 60Hz by design, older PAL-M TVs do not even support 50Hz.
PAL60 is a non-standard hack of the other 99% PAL standards (G, B etc) which normally operate at 50Hz. Nobody says PAL60 referring to PAL-M.
A pragmatist will say XYZ is impossible until an idealist proves him/her wrong, and after that the pragmatist starts taking advantage of the progress done by the idealist.
I hate to be the one that breaks it to you, but the word "pragmatist" doesn't mean anything like what you think it does. In fact, to one who does know what it means, what you wrote is little more than gibberish.
I'm aware of the formal definition of pragmatism.
You're simply being pedantic.
People who claim being guided by pragmatic logic simply take a shorter/easier route, and that because they believe the path for a pure solution - even if worthy itself - is not worth the effort compared to a half-assed and more viable alternative. - If you reduce life to numbers, why do you care about anything at all in the first place?
That kind of limiting attitude is what I'm talking about.
i disagree, people are only purists as long as they aren't involved in anything serious. as soon as they hit a road block they find out life is all about compromises and they become pragmatists.
No, that's an example of people who have ideals - as long as they don't have to pay the price for keeping them.
Though I'm aware that there are shades between, I say that the ones who are clearly identifiable as pragmatists - the way I see them at least - are just opportunistic people.
Idealists are the ones who bring innovation and true progress to mankind, the ones who make things interesting.
Pragmatists... Well, they just take advantage of what others fought for and use for their own purposes.
A pragmatist will say XYZ is impossible until an idealist proves him/her wrong, and after that the pragmatist starts taking advantage of the progress done by the idealist. The sad part is that before that happens often the pragmatists often have no problems bashing the idealist for his/her crazy ideals.
Idealists live. Pragmatists vegetate.
I believe, though, that pragmatists are a necessary mediocrity.
We also need, too, a certain level of stability do solidify the gains brought by the idealists.
There are people who hate ones like Stallman, who inspires lots of people (feel free to replace Stallman with your favorite hero, that's just an example).
Think what you want about the man (crazy, radical, smelly etc), but the fact is: were FSF controled by a Kofi Annan-like moderate person, how strong do you think free software would be today?
I was a kid and I had a bare knowledge of English language as 2nd language, so it went like:
"You start off with your parachute snagged on a branch of a mangrove tree, leaving you helplessly dangling high above the jungle floor."
> north
> go north
> down
> go down
> climb tree
> look tree
> look at tree
> look parachute
> objects
> inventory
> help
> shit ...
> untie parachute
Yeah, sorry if I don't share the same enthusiasm for such games.
Yeah, no shit? Gee, so was mine. But the parent was suggesting that a majority of people, which excludes the likes of you and me, had their first computer experience using a PC. Just another self-centered prick, always wanting to stick his dick in the equation.
It seems that you didn't even bother to read parent message.
That message states that MS created domestic computing and user-friendliness technology. The problem is that it's simply not true.
MS is a huge commercial success but they were not innovators back then. Disregarding all IT evolution during the 70s and 80s such way, it feels like an attempt of rewritting History.
If you had a 8-bit computer, chances are you're around your 30s or older. That's sad, considering that your insults are more fitting for a teenager.
Now, be honest. How many of us had our first computer experience with MS-DOS or Windows 3.1?
I didn't. My first computer was a 8-bit machine.
Do you think that if computers still consisted on thin-client-server models based on huge VAX mainframes, that Joe and Jane Smith would be able to dial-in to AOL and connect to thousands of people around the world?(...)
There was Amigas, Macs and other easy-to-use personal computers before Windows even existed.
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Where the Italian guy is found speaking Portuguese in a British channel.
Native-like Brazilian Portuguese, to be more precise.
From this article (in portuguese language) it seems that he was born in Brazil (he has dual italian-brazilian citizenship) and his family strongly kept their italian identity. Also, he is a public servant in Curitiba.
First of all, not all smokers smoke in the front of their computers. There are ones, like me, who don't smoke indoors at all.
About the "let the smokers pay for that" it's just a smoker-hater argument. We are already pay heavy taxes for each pack of cigarrettes.
We already suffer restrictions on where we can smoke AND we have to suffer public demonstrations of disgust from anti-smoking bigots, or unwanted advices.
I don't drink (at all), and lots of bad things happen related to alcoholic beverages consumption (fights, car accidents etc), and it does not matter where you drank (so no-drink zones would not prevent that). I'm very comfortable with a alcohol ban. What do you think?
I don't have a car, I don't drive. It's my choice. Public transportation saves fuel and pollutes less (oh, my poor lungs considering each of your particular cars exhausting pollution!). Should we ban private cars? Well, I could say yes.. It does not affect me at all!
What about football (the one called 'soccer' in USA)? I've seen masses of people doing ugly things in the streets after a match (fights, lynching, destruction of anything in the area etc). It does happen from time to time and all what the police can do is to control them in order to avoid major problems. - My taxpayer's money goes to the police. I don't like football. Should we ban it too? From my point of view it's OK.
Etc etc etc
Extend this level of interference to the things YOU do. How do you like that?
I don't suppose you've ever heard of BASIC before, have you? You know, the language that was on the computer in your own fucking username? The most popular implementation of it even today remains Microsoft Basic, which was initally developed by...wait for it...Paul Allen and _Bill Gates_./p>
Even better, he developed the C64 basic since Commodore licensed it from MS.
Well, MS did develop Amiga Basic and I thank them for that.
Amiga Basic was so horrible that made me give up programming in Basic and switch to Pascal, then C.
These errors wouldn't be tolerated with ATM machines because the public seems to care a lot more if their bank account is fraked with but not so much their vote for some reason...
[Citation Needed]
Are you thinking of the same ATMs that I am? Many ATMs are Windows running on commodity hardware. I've seen a few whose entire functionality is a java applet sitting on the desktop.
I can't dispute your assertion that "the public seems to care," but I will dispute your claim that "these errors wouldn't be tolerated". I dispute the claim because we don't know. ATM mfgs & banks don't report to anyone.
There are no statistics to prove or disprove the security of ATMs.
I don't know how it works in other countries, but if you consider the Banco do Brasil, the biggest bank in Latin America:
The ATMs currently run a custom (in-house-compiled) version of OS/2.
The bank is switching to a custom version of Linux (the userland code, naturally, is developed by themselves aswell).
About the banking system, in Brazil all the financial transactions from all banks are reported to the Banco Central do Brasil (Central Bank of Brazil) and the data is cross-checked.
I work in the election system here in Brasil (ok, "Brazil"). It happens that Im a computer science student, but they take anyone "at random" and make them work that day or I would have to pay a fine. OTOH, I could, theoricly , take 2 days off. (ha! we live in capitalism. Of course I work as if I never had this 2 days off)
If your employer doesn't give you the days off, he's violating a Federal Law:
Art. 98 Law 9.504/1997.
this is a Unix joke (also in BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac, and Windows [with additional software])
Agreed, it's all the same family:
Linux - Popular with girls and has a good job.
*BSD - Older brother. Talented but not so recognized. Thinks Linux is an ass.
OS X - The artist in the family. Father BSD Sr. stopped talking to him after knowing on his alternative lifestyle.
Solaris - The uncle.
Windows - The adopted roma kid.
What about those crazy women with 4 color receptors [tomes.biz]. They are real life mutants! Are we going to get some gene therapy like that?
I'm not sure I would want that.
All color movies and photographs up now are recorded for a audience of tricromats. Watching movies, seeing your family pictures, browsing the internet etc would probably look poor to tetracromats.
Yes, but that's one heck of a qualification.
o Who is a "trusted" editor? o What is the qualification process for earning "trust"?
I guess that would be in a way similar to how they set certain users as administrators.
In pt.wikipedia that would mean:
- Experience, by number of edits. That's the Wikipedia's equivalent of karma whoring, where users do pedantic (when not completely useless) modifications just for the sake of it.
- Politics. People befriending administrators with the same political affiliation (scum like this comes to my mind) or the same religion/sect/whatever (like evangelicals in general).
I think Warren Ellis had a pretty awesome vision in Transmetropolitan(...).
Sí, por supuesto.
Argentinian ISPs do this every fucking day since forever.
Feel free to move to Brazil, land of telecoms which mutilate VoIP connections (so they can sell you their phone services), oversell bandwidth and may suffer network collapse for hours... And nobody gets punished, as usual.
As a bonus you'll get a unrepentant, hopelessly corrupt government.
My bad, the guy's talking about workstations.
In that case, just use a serial number and that's it.
Just name each machine with an ID and put the information in a spreadsheet somewhere
I would rather say it depends on how many machines we're talking about.
If you have just a few servers (10 or so) you may give any cute name you like.
Your network may grow though. So, the day you see your prompt with a root@mariobros# and ask yourself whether if that the firewall for XYZ network or a DNS server, it's the day you have to drop that creative naming.
If you're dealing with 40, 70 or so servers the best thing IMO is to simply name them after their functionality (dns1, dns2.. ldap1, ldap2 etc).
If your structure is much bigger than that, a boring serial code may be the only way to keep things under control. But if is that the case you probably know that.
It's only a small step from testing for these purported genes in kids, to testing for 'em in embryo bits. Then we get eugenics and kid selection, and surprise, there's a superhuman race inheriting the earth. *shrug* I think we all know how these things go.
KHAAAAAAN!!!
Truth is Windows will be around for a long long time, even if not on the home business, there is just too many corporations relying on windows for it to sink. I do believe the user base at home will decline heavily (Free Product vs Highly priced crap), but the corporate business wont trust a Google OS for many years to come. Big companies (Banks specially, I work at one) are very slow adopters.
I can't say specifically about Google OS, but there's the case of massive migration to Linux of Banco do Brasil which currently is the 2nd biggest bank in Latin America (was the 1st before the fusion of two other brazilian banks).
They migrated their PCs to Linux and now are about to migrate their ATMs to Linux aswell (currently running a customized OS/2 version). Few weeks ago I saw a demonstration of the new ATMs at the FISL, which are now in testing phase.
The other OS they use now run in their servers which is, unsurprisingly, AIX.
Thus I would say such kind of migration is possible.
FYI:
schizophrenic != psychopat
Yup, I remember that discussion, I even replied that as AC in case things turned ugly.
Regarding games at least, I don't think that trying to please everyone being politically correct is the way to go: you end up being artificial and no one will be satisfied anyway.
That kind of subject reminds me of certain soap operas produced in the US, where every single person is black (except for one neighboor and, perhaps, the postman). -- I always found that strange, it felt to me like some sort of "happy apartheid".
And even if you stick with interlaced signals like those of the Dreamcast, PS2, and newer consoles, there are brazilians of people who would disagree with you. Brazil uses PAL-M, which is PAL60 where even the color subcarrier has been moved down to NTSC frequencies.
PAL60 != PAL-M, though both operate at 60Hz.
PAL-M is 60Hz by design, older PAL-M TVs do not even support 50Hz.
PAL60 is a non-standard hack of the other 99% PAL standards (G, B etc) which normally operate at 50Hz. Nobody says PAL60 referring to PAL-M.
A pragmatist will say XYZ is impossible until an idealist proves him/her wrong, and after that the pragmatist starts taking advantage of the progress done by the idealist.
I hate to be the one that breaks it to you, but the word "pragmatist" doesn't mean anything like what you think it does. In fact, to one who does know what it means, what you wrote is little more than gibberish.
I'm aware of the formal definition of pragmatism.
You're simply being pedantic.
People who claim being guided by pragmatic logic simply take a shorter/easier route, and that because they believe the path for a pure solution - even if worthy itself - is not worth the effort compared to a half-assed and more viable alternative. - If you reduce life to numbers, why do you care about anything at all in the first place?
That kind of limiting attitude is what I'm talking about.
i disagree, people are only purists as long as they aren't involved in anything serious. as soon as they hit a road block they find out life is all about compromises and they become pragmatists.
No, that's an example of people who have ideals - as long as they don't have to pay the price for keeping them.
Though I'm aware that there are shades between, I say that the ones who are clearly identifiable as pragmatists - the way I see them at least - are just opportunistic people.
Idealists are the ones who bring innovation and true progress to mankind, the ones who make things interesting.
Pragmatists... Well, they just take advantage of what others fought for and use for their own purposes.
A pragmatist will say XYZ is impossible until an idealist proves him/her wrong, and after that the pragmatist starts taking advantage of the progress done by the idealist. The sad part is that before that happens often the pragmatists often have no problems bashing the idealist for his/her crazy ideals.
Idealists live. Pragmatists vegetate.
I believe, though, that pragmatists are a necessary mediocrity.
We also need, too, a certain level of stability do solidify the gains brought by the idealists.
There are people who hate ones like Stallman, who inspires lots of people (feel free to replace Stallman with your favorite hero, that's just an example).
Think what you want about the man (crazy, radical, smelly etc), but the fact is: were FSF controled by a Kofi Annan-like moderate person, how strong do you think free software would be today?
I was a kid and I had a bare knowledge of English language as 2nd language, so it went like:
...
"You start off with your parachute snagged on a branch of a mangrove tree, leaving you helplessly dangling high above the jungle floor."
> north
> go north
> down
> go down
> climb tree
> look tree
> look at tree
> look parachute
> objects
> inventory
> help
> shit
> untie parachute
Yeah, sorry if I don't share the same enthusiasm for such games.
The problem with VNC is that it's horribly slow, even running it over a LAN is a joke.
Even DXPC (NX is a fork from that software) kicks VNC's ass.
$ wget http://blah.com.mars/
Error: Connection timed out.
20 minutes later...
TCP packet from blah.com.mars just arrived.
Yeah, no shit? Gee, so was mine. But the parent was suggesting that a majority of people, which excludes the likes of you and me, had their first computer experience using a PC. Just another self-centered prick, always wanting to stick his dick in the equation.
It seems that you didn't even bother to read parent message.
That message states that MS created domestic computing and user-friendliness technology. The problem is that it's simply not true.
MS is a huge commercial success but they were not innovators back then. Disregarding all IT evolution during the 70s and 80s such way, it feels like an attempt of rewritting History.
If you had a 8-bit computer, chances are you're around your 30s or older. That's sad, considering that your insults are more fitting for a teenager.
Now, be honest. How many of us had our first computer experience with MS-DOS or Windows 3.1?
I didn't. My first computer was a 8-bit machine.
Do you think that if computers still consisted on thin-client-server models based on huge VAX mainframes, that Joe and Jane Smith would be able to dial-in to AOL and connect to thousands of people around the world?(...)
There was Amigas, Macs and other easy-to-use personal computers before Windows even existed.