Are you running Linux w/ kernel 2.6 on it? If so, you enable CPU Frequency Scaling under ACPI options in the kernel build menu. I've got performance and powersave governers set to 'y', CPU frequency helper tables on and AMD Opteron/Athlon64 Powernow also set to Y. There may be other options, but you'll find them if you use Google. Obviously, you need to build and install the new kernel with these options enabled.
Next, you'll need a daemon to control the CPU speed. I tried cpudynd but it kept locking up (I think it was the bios, not the program - XP also locked up on the same bios revision.) However, I now use powernowd and it's working fine.
About 100 games on one partition, for a start. (And yes, I bought them all) That's the important stuff out the way, then there are 175 folders in my Program Files directory - I'm not claiming I use them all, but the thought of reinstalling and patching that lot makes me go cold.
My system is like a favourite leather jacket - it might be frayed around the edges, but it's comfy and familiar. With a fresh install you never quite get back everything you had before. I've set up dozens of machines over the past decade or so, many of them my own. It's too much trouble to start from scratch.
I can't patch my XP to SP2 as mentioned here on Slashdot a number of times. The process completes, but after the first reboot I get a sudden clatter from the hard drives and a blue screen. I've tried safe mode (works, but for what?), removing all hardware and drivers prior to install, admin console but got nowhere. So I ghost my working 'SP1' back over it and carry on.
Asking Microsoft for help is like dropping a $100 note in a crowd and then expecting to find it at the Lost Property office.
Scanning the MS knowledge base tells me nothing, I can't shell in from another PC to gather system info, I can't boot from a CD, chroot and run things to test them - and there is no way I can afford a week doing a clean install of XP and all my apps, drivers, development gear and patches.
Better wait for SP3, eh? In the meantime, I use and recommend Firefox.
I just booted into XP to print some of my novels (It's a windows prog, I can't complain because I wrote the thing) So, this is info on Windows rather than Linux.
In EasyTune4 (the Gigabyte control panel) it's showing the CPU fan currently running at 1814 rpm, with the clock speed at 1004.89 I just did something to make it work harder, and the fan speed has gone up to 2033. The clock speed doesn't change in ET4, though, it doesn't seem to realise that it CAN change.
The point is, the fan speed varies. I just have to check and confirm that it does the same in Linux. I'm guessing it's a motherboard function, the rheostat thing on the fan is just used to set a min (or max) for the range of possible speeds, as far as I can tell.
I'm glad someone picked the link up, if a zillion Slashdotters stomp into their hardware store demanding P3-M boards, it might change the future of computing (if it isn't already being changed)
I discarded the Prescott unseen, because it consumes more power than my air conditioning unit and from the figures, it would beat it in a one-on-one shootout.
Nope, I'm using my Athlon64 3400+ and cool 'n' quiet on Linux. Kernel 2.6 with powernowd.
ksensors shows ~1000 mhz up to ~2400 depending on the load. CPU temp varies from about 32 degrees up to 56 degrees at full load. I'm using a Zalman copper cooler, the fan runs between 1800 and 2300 rpm, also depending on load, but I've got the thing turned up max because I live in a hot climate.
If you want specific setting details, let me know. I got the Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP motherboard and the (739?) pin cpu.
In related news, what other products besides Google Desktop Search, Spybot Search & Destroy, Google Toolbar and Service Pack 2 are Slashdotters installing on their parents' Windows machines?
My parents run Gentoo Linux. I'll probably do emerge sync ; emerge -Duv world while we're having dinner. Then again, I can do it from here so why waste quality family time sitting in front of their computer? It's not like they've had any problems with it in the past 2 years.
While there always has been some demand for Pentium-M motherboards for the desktop, there was not enough of an urge to turn this demand into more than niche appeal.
Today though, we finally get to see how the Pentium-M platform can compete with the big boys, thanks to AOpen's new Pentium-M desktop motherboard.
I went through an upgrade about 2 months ago. Looked around to see whether I could get a Pentium-M motherboard and CPU (in Perth, Western Australia - hah.)
I liked the idea of throttling the CPU back when it wasn't busy. We get daytime temps of 100+ degrees (40 deg centigrade) fairly regularly in summer, keeping a hot CPU cool isn't fun.
Before I wasted too much time looking, I read about the Athlon64 3400+ and that was that. Mind you, cool 'n' quiet locked up hard on my Gigabyte K8NSNXP bios revisions F5 and F6. (Whether I was running Win Xp or Linux) Rev. F7 came out about 3 weeks after I got the board, and it's been rock solid at 1ghz to 2.4 ghz ever s--
At age 4 my daughter cut all her hair off with a pair of scissors, then tried to make it grow back with 'Barbie's magic hair wand' (A stick with a drawing of a star sellotaped to one end.) She was copying 'Barbie hair stylist', a computer game where you cut a model's hair then grow it back with a wand for another try.
Still, she picked up a valuable lesson on the difference between fiction and reality.
Hey, I'm a Gentoo user AND I drive a Subaru WRX with a 5" exhaust. (IMHO the only 4 cylinder car worth fitting a big pipe to, thanks to the boxer engine)
Because I've installed SP2 twice on my Windows XP box, and it stuffed it up both times. I had to Ghost my backed-up partition back again to fix it. (And I've had way too much XPerience with Microsoft service packs NOT to Ghost the partition first...)
With SP2 installed I get a blue screen at bootup with a string of meaningless error messages (your computer has crashed, basically) and an error 000000E7, which could be bad memory (unlikely, I run Linux on the same beast, an Athlon64 3400+), or it could be excessive bandwidth on USB devices (!) or apparently it could also be a bad driver.
Whatever it is, I can't install SP2 so I can't patch IE. Just as well I've been using Firefox since it was Phoenix 0.6.
Oh yeah, and I paid my thirty bucks to Spread Firefox. It's a seriously good browser.
Ess-que-ell here, too. I'm a self-taught programmer, I never spoke verbally to anyone about this stuff until I went to uni in my 30's, by which time I'd already been programming for years 'n' years.
The one that really ticks me off is 'lie-nux'. My brother-in-law is the only person I know who pronounces it like that, and he works in IT!
Can I rephrase your question? To whit: "To the nearest dozen or so, how many editions of..." etc etc
I mean, you have to give people a chance of getting the answer right. Right?
Run a lead from the audio out on your PC to the speccy MIC port, use Taper on the PC to load and play TZX or TAP files down the wire. Files from tzxvault and/or world of spectrum (use google for that)
For the record, I've got a cupboard full of speccy gear, including a naked zx80, four zx81s, boxes of cassettes, and speccys from 16kb to +3. Nostalgia...
And 3 years ago I finally picked up issue 1 of Crash magazine, to add to my original collection of issues 2-50. I've been looking for that mag since 1985, so it was nice to get it.
I don't wonder that ZX stuff is coming back - the gameboy handhelds remind me of nothing as much as shrunken speccies, especially the games. There are something like a million 35-40 year olds who wasted half their lives on Dun Darach, Elite, Shadowfire and so on.
I used to upgrade bits and pieces frequently, but I learnt my lesson when XP forced me to phone Microsoft(tm)(r) when I transferred my OS from a 20gb to a 40gb hard drive (within the same machine) I felt like a naughty schoolboy explaining to teacher why the dog ate my homework, and any company which is willing to put computing professionals through that kind of shit is really, really stupid.
Recently I purchased an Athlon 64, new motherboard, dual 120 gig SATA drives. I ghosted my WinXP partition onto the new drives, rebooted and got through the 'activation' rubbish by allowing the machine to phone home and report its new config. (The old bits won't be running the same OS, they're destined for a Linux box) I lay awake that night, listening for the sound of the front door splintering as jack-booted thugs came to take me away. Fortunately, nothing. They were probably busy dragging away some old dear who really did install her copy of XP onto two computers.
To be fair to Microsoft(tm)(r), they have every right to protect sales of their software. To be fair to me, I have the right not to use it, not to recommend XP to anyone I know. I can spend my time burning and distributing CDs with OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird to Windows(tm)(r)-owning friends/relatives so that in a year or two their data will be out of Microsoft's(tm)(et-bloody-cetera) clutches.
It is a seriously bad move for a company to treat all customers like common thieves. Imagine if your employer made you turn out your pockets before leaving work each day, to make sure you hadn't stolen company pens or a valuable stapler. That's how this product activation rubbish makes me feel.
Intel Pentium 90 (OC to 100Mhz after a year or so)
Intel Pentium 120 (OC to 133Mhz)
Intel Celeron 300A (OC to 450mhz of course)
Intel Celeron 633 (OC to something insane like 950 Mhz)
Intel Pentium III 1ghz (When the 633 blew up after a few short weeks)
Intel Pentium IV 2.26 Ghz - didn't seem any quicker than the PIII
For my latest PC I read up on the Northwood and Prescott CPUs. However, I live in Western Australia where summer daytime temps reach 40-45 deg celcius and nights don't get a whole lot cooler. My house has aircon, but last year everyone was told to switch it off because the power companies didn't see the massive switch to airconditioned homes coming a few years back, and their ageing equipment isn't up to the task. If you take a CPU running at 60+ degrees and 'cool' it with air at 35 degrees, it's not going to do much.
Having put together 4 Athlon XP machines for other people over the past 6 months or so, I've had my eye on their CPUs.
So... I now have an Athlon64 3400+ on a Gigabyte 'kitchen sink' MB with dual SATA 120 gig hard drives and a gig of ram. Bye bye, Intel.
No answer, but another question. I'm a long (long, long) term Corel draw user, from version 2 up to version 9 at the moment. In scribus, how do you draw 'artistic' text, ie. text which is not in a frame, and which can be dragged and resized by the corners. I made a text frame and converted it to vector, but there's no way of editing the text afterwards, and if I try 'convert to text' Scribus bites the dust (all versions since about 1.0)
If I could get Corel running under Wine that would be a small help. It crashes out at the splash screen, although Photo paint loads fully and only crashes when I draw something.
Personally, if the game sucks I don't want to waste twenty minutes installing it.
I know the types of games I like. It's a simple matter to browse reviews in each category to find the best rated games (by user AND paid reviewer).
I don't pirate software, but I have no qualms about buying second hand (original software, never copies). I'm too busy to worry about having the latest and greatest game on the day of release, if it's that good it'll still be worth playing a year or two later, when everyone's fed up with it. (And I couldn't give a stuff about online gaming, although BF1942 was fun. Once they started releasing addon packs it became more and more difficult to find a local server.)
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Are you running Linux w/ kernel 2.6 on it? If so, you enable CPU Frequency Scaling under ACPI options in the kernel build menu. I've got performance and powersave governers set to 'y', CPU frequency helper tables on and AMD Opteron/Athlon64 Powernow also set to Y. There may be other options, but you'll find them if you use Google. Obviously, you need to build and install the new kernel with these options enabled.
/proc/cpuinfo to check the current speed:
Next, you'll need a daemon to control the CPU speed. I tried cpudynd but it kept locking up (I think it was the bios, not the program - XP also locked up on the same bios revision.) However, I now use powernowd and it's working fine.
K8T800? If you mean this one you're in luck.
Just cat
model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
cpu MHz: 1004.881
That's right now, it varies up and down of course.
Answer re: CPU fan speed in Linux. Yes, it changes continually.
About 100 games on one partition, for a start. (And yes, I bought them all) That's the important stuff out the way, then there are 175 folders in my Program Files directory - I'm not claiming I use them all, but the thought of reinstalling and patching that lot makes me go cold.
My system is like a favourite leather jacket - it might be frayed around the edges, but it's comfy and familiar. With a fresh install you never quite get back everything you had before. I've set up dozens of machines over the past decade or so, many of them my own. It's too much trouble to start from scratch.
I can't patch my XP to SP2 as mentioned here on Slashdot a number of times. The process completes, but after the first reboot I get a sudden clatter from the hard drives and a blue screen. I've tried safe mode (works, but for what?), removing all hardware and drivers prior to install, admin console but got nowhere. So I ghost my working 'SP1' back over it and carry on.
Asking Microsoft for help is like dropping a $100 note in a crowd and then expecting to find it at the Lost Property office.
Scanning the MS knowledge base tells me nothing, I can't shell in from another PC to gather system info, I can't boot from a CD, chroot and run things to test them - and there is no way I can afford a week doing a clean install of XP and all my apps, drivers, development gear and patches.
Better wait for SP3, eh? In the meantime, I use and recommend Firefox.
I generally use my eyes before opening my mouth, but this time I opened my mouth and shoved my foot in it ;-)
I just booted into XP to print some of my novels (It's a windows prog, I can't complain because I wrote the thing) So, this is info on Windows rather than Linux.
In EasyTune4 (the Gigabyte control panel) it's showing the CPU fan currently running at 1814 rpm, with the clock speed at 1004.89 I just did something to make it work harder, and the fan speed has gone up to 2033. The clock speed doesn't change in ET4, though, it doesn't seem to realise that it CAN change.
The point is, the fan speed varies. I just have to check and confirm that it does the same in Linux. I'm guessing it's a motherboard function, the rheostat thing on the fan is just used to set a min (or max) for the range of possible speeds, as far as I can tell.
My Slashdot comment from almost a week ago
I'm glad someone picked the link up, if a zillion Slashdotters stomp into their hardware store demanding P3-M boards, it might change the future of computing (if it isn't already being changed)
I discarded the Prescott unseen, because it consumes more power than my air conditioning unit and from the figures, it would beat it in a one-on-one shootout.
Nope, I'm using my Athlon64 3400+ and cool 'n' quiet on Linux. Kernel 2.6 with powernowd.
ksensors shows ~1000 mhz up to ~2400 depending on the load. CPU temp varies from about 32 degrees up to 56 degrees at full load. I'm using a Zalman copper cooler, the fan runs between 1800 and 2300 rpm, also depending on load, but I've got the thing turned up max because I live in a hot climate.
If you want specific setting details, let me know. I got the Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP motherboard and the (739?) pin cpu.
It's a fantastic setup, highly recommended.
In related news, what other products besides Google Desktop Search, Spybot Search & Destroy, Google Toolbar and Service Pack 2 are Slashdotters installing on their parents' Windows machines?
My parents run Gentoo Linux. I'll probably do emerge sync ; emerge -Duv world while we're having dinner. Then again, I can do it from here so why waste quality family time sitting in front of their computer? It's not like they've had any problems with it in the past 2 years.
This is the kind of thing I meant: Dothan on the desktop
While there always has been some demand for Pentium-M motherboards for the desktop, there was not enough of an urge to turn this demand into more than niche appeal.
Today though, we finally get to see how the Pentium-M platform can compete with the big boys, thanks to AOpen's new Pentium-M desktop motherboard.
I went through an upgrade about 2 months ago. Looked around to see whether I could get a Pentium-M motherboard and CPU (in Perth, Western Australia - hah.)
I liked the idea of throttling the CPU back when it wasn't busy. We get daytime temps of 100+ degrees (40 deg centigrade) fairly regularly in summer, keeping a hot CPU cool isn't fun.
Before I wasted too much time looking, I read about the Athlon64 3400+ and that was that. Mind you, cool 'n' quiet locked up hard on my Gigabyte K8NSNXP bios revisions F5 and F6. (Whether I was running Win Xp or Linux) Rev. F7 came out about 3 weeks after I got the board, and it's been rock solid at 1ghz to 2.4 ghz ever s--
At age 4 my daughter cut all her hair off with a pair of scissors, then tried to make it grow back with 'Barbie's magic hair wand' (A stick with a drawing of a star sellotaped to one end.) She was copying 'Barbie hair stylist', a computer game where you cut a model's hair then grow it back with a wand for another try.
Still, she picked up a valuable lesson on the difference between fiction and reality.
Hey, I'm a Gentoo user AND I drive a Subaru WRX with a 5" exhaust. (IMHO the only 4 cylinder car worth fitting a big pipe to, thanks to the boxer engine)
I'm on a goddamn hiding to nothing, right?
Because I've installed SP2 twice on my Windows XP box, and it stuffed it up both times. I had to Ghost my backed-up partition back again to fix it. (And I've had way too much XPerience with Microsoft service packs NOT to Ghost the partition first...)
With SP2 installed I get a blue screen at bootup with a string of meaningless error messages (your computer has crashed, basically) and an error 000000E7, which could be bad memory (unlikely, I run Linux on the same beast, an Athlon64 3400+), or it could be excessive bandwidth on USB devices (!) or apparently it could also be a bad driver.
Whatever it is, I can't install SP2 so I can't patch IE. Just as well I've been using Firefox since it was Phoenix 0.6.
Oh yeah, and I paid my thirty bucks to Spread Firefox. It's a seriously good browser.
Ess-que-ell here, too. I'm a self-taught programmer, I never spoke verbally to anyone about this stuff until I went to uni in my 30's, by which time I'd already been programming for years 'n' years.
The one that really ticks me off is 'lie-nux'. My brother-in-law is the only person I know who pronounces it like that, and he works in IT!
Can I rephrase your question? To whit:
"To the nearest dozen or so, how many editions of..." etc etc
I mean, you have to give people a chance of getting the answer right. Right?
Run a lead from the audio out on your PC to the speccy MIC port, use Taper on the PC to load and play TZX or TAP files down the wire. Files from tzxvault and/or world of spectrum (use google for that)
For the record, I've got a cupboard full of speccy gear, including a naked zx80, four zx81s, boxes of cassettes, and speccys from 16kb to +3. Nostalgia...
And 3 years ago I finally picked up issue 1 of Crash magazine, to add to my original collection of issues 2-50. I've been looking for that mag since 1985, so it was nice to get it.
I don't wonder that ZX stuff is coming back - the gameboy handhelds remind me of nothing as much as shrunken speccies, especially the games. There are something like a million 35-40 year olds who wasted half their lives on Dun Darach, Elite, Shadowfire and so on.
I hope you handed them an invoice for 'PDF Export Pro', totalling $199.95
And designed in OODraw, of course...
I used to upgrade bits and pieces frequently, but I learnt my lesson when XP forced me to phone Microsoft(tm)(r) when I transferred my OS from a 20gb to a 40gb hard drive (within the same machine) I felt like a naughty schoolboy explaining to teacher why the dog ate my homework, and any company which is willing to put computing professionals through that kind of shit is really, really stupid.
Recently I purchased an Athlon 64, new motherboard, dual 120 gig SATA drives. I ghosted my WinXP partition onto the new drives, rebooted and got through the 'activation' rubbish by allowing the machine to phone home and report its new config. (The old bits won't be running the same OS, they're destined for a Linux box) I lay awake that night, listening for the sound of the front door splintering as jack-booted thugs came to take me away. Fortunately, nothing. They were probably busy dragging away some old dear who really did install her copy of XP onto two computers.
To be fair to Microsoft(tm)(r), they have every right to protect sales of their software. To be fair to me, I have the right not to use it, not to recommend XP to anyone I know. I can spend my time burning and distributing CDs with OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird to Windows(tm)(r)-owning friends/relatives so that in a year or two their data will be out of Microsoft's(tm)(et-bloody-cetera) clutches.
It is a seriously bad move for a company to treat all customers like common thieves. Imagine if your employer made you turn out your pockets before leaving work each day, to make sure you hadn't stolen company pens or a valuable stapler. That's how this product activation rubbish makes me feel.
My last n desktops from oldest to newest:
Intel Pentium 90 (OC to 100Mhz after a year or so)
Intel Pentium 120 (OC to 133Mhz)
Intel Celeron 300A (OC to 450mhz of course)
Intel Celeron 633 (OC to something insane like 950 Mhz)
Intel Pentium III 1ghz (When the 633 blew up after a few short weeks)
Intel Pentium IV 2.26 Ghz - didn't seem any quicker than the PIII
For my latest PC I read up on the Northwood and Prescott CPUs. However, I live in Western Australia where summer daytime temps reach 40-45 deg celcius and nights don't get a whole lot cooler. My house has aircon, but last year everyone was told to switch it off because the power companies didn't see the massive switch to airconditioned homes coming a few years back, and their ageing equipment isn't up to the task. If you take a CPU running at 60+ degrees and 'cool' it with air at 35 degrees, it's not going to do much.
Having put together 4 Athlon XP machines for other people over the past 6 months or so, I've had my eye on their CPUs.
So... I now have an Athlon64 3400+ on a Gigabyte 'kitchen sink' MB with dual SATA 120 gig hard drives and a gig of ram. Bye bye, Intel.
This year it won't be competing with a theatrical release of the next in the series.
No answer, but another question. I'm a long (long, long) term Corel draw user, from version 2 up to version 9 at the moment. In scribus, how do you draw 'artistic' text, ie. text which is not in a frame, and which can be dragged and resized by the corners. I made a text frame and converted it to vector, but there's no way of editing the text afterwards, and if I try 'convert to text' Scribus bites the dust (all versions since about 1.0)
If I could get Corel running under Wine that would be a small help. It crashes out at the splash screen, although Photo paint loads fully and only crashes when I draw something.
I don't know when the idea got popularized that there were going to be only 6 movies.
Yes, it was just wishful thinking...
It could be worse, he could be designing a new operating system in his spare time...
Personally, if the game sucks I don't want to waste twenty minutes installing it.
I know the types of games I like. It's a simple matter to browse reviews in each category to find the best rated games (by user AND paid reviewer).
I don't pirate software, but I have no qualms about buying second hand (original software, never copies). I'm too busy to worry about having the latest and greatest game on the day of release, if it's that good it'll still be worth playing a year or two later, when everyone's fed up with it. (And I couldn't give a stuff about online gaming, although BF1942 was fun. Once they started releasing addon packs it became more and more difficult to find a local server.)