I suspect they'll go for a similar model as S60 - that is, anyone can write s/w, but it has to be approved before they'll let it be installable. This service is called Symbian Signed on S60 and it's (somewhat) mandatory on S60 3rd.
Of course style matters. For a start, in part at least, it's what makes people adopt, or, in the case of those made up in the US, not adopt new words.
> That is why so many people in the world speak English as a second language.
Bollocks.
The reason so many people speak the English language as a second language is that there are so many people who speak the English language as a *first* language. The reason so many people speak the English language as a *first* language is that the English people have spread it so effectively (for better or worse - mostly worse, but not as worse as others, perhaps).
Naturally, I blame the USA. They have absolutely no style when it comes to language. Of course they *think* they have style, but everyone else knows otherwise. Unfortunate since they're so often the ones that make up words.
> Then that has absolutely nothing to do with the window manager
Well, that depends on what functions you expect a manager to perform. I expect it to manage windows, not just send events to applications and expect them to do something when they have time.
> I'm not certain if you think a window manager should be some sort of omnipresent overlord
I do.
If I say for a window to minimise, I expect it to minimise. I don't care if the application is busy or hung or anything else. I expect it to minimise.
> I don't know about Aqua, but Windows doesn't have a window manager. > There is no window manager process, the window is handled by the application process. > If the application process is busy, the window - including the minimize button - > doesn't respond.
Well, that explains why it happens on MS Windows:)
I also don't know if the same is true of Aqua, but it's damned annoying whatever the reason is. Defective by design, IMO.
SGI IRIX 4Dwm is X based, so I would assume that any X based GUI would work irrespective of application state, including those on Linux. I don't have a Linux machine with a graphics head at the moment, so I can't check...
> I believe he was referring to the fact that, should your application beachball (lock up), > the minimize button will no longer minimize the window consistently. It often chooses to wait > until the program is responsive again before minimizing. This doesn't happen often, but it > does happen.
Indeed. I happens a lot for me for some applications - aMule and Mplayer mostly.
The thing that bugs me about both Mac OS X's Aqua (and MS Windows) is how the window manager seems to have so little authority over the windows it manages.
On SGI IRIX's 4Dwm, for example, if I use the window manager to minimise a window (by clicking on the minimise button, for example), it damn well minimises, no matter what state the window's application is in.
Why is Aqua's (and MS Windows's) window manager such a wimp? They have no authority over their windows at all. What kind of manager is that?
> I don't see how grabbing the lower-right of a window makes resizing a window take too long.
Sure - if all you want to do it resize the window, then fine. Unfortunely, resizing is often done in combination with a window move.
Also, what happens when the bottom right corner is off the screen? You're forced to move the window so that the corner is on the screen before you can resize it - if the window is too large for the screen, there's no way to resize it.
I use OS X frequently, and this is something I often find irritating.
> the next light (40 or 50 yards ahead) is about to turn yellow...from what colour? In the UK, turning to (only) yellow, means the next colour is red, ie stop. I'd guess it's different in other countries.
I couldn't help wonder what the 'spouse killer Hans Reiser' has been 'accused' of...terrible grammar, but I can't think of anything better...perhaps, '...Hans Reiser, accused of killing his wife,...' would be better.
That's my point. You don't need aircraft carriers for B52s...just fly from Alaska or some Pacific island...or even from the US....or from a one of the US 'colonies' in the area.
> Of course, every movie Disney has made is available in China on DVD for about 50 cents each, which certainly is copyright infringement, but that's another issue.
It's not the price which makes them copyright infringements, it's the actual copying - you didn't mention that their copies.
Of course, *real* DVDs are *very* difficult to get here (Beijing). I think I saw some in WangFuJing and they were hugely expensive. I only thought they were real ones because of the high price....
If the fake ones weren't available, I don't believe the sales of real ones would increase much at all - they're just too expensive.
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> No user-installable applications.
From what I've read, this is far from certain.
I suspect they'll go for a similar model as S60 - that is, anyone can write s/w, but it has to be approved before they'll let it be installable. This service is called Symbian Signed on S60 and it's (somewhat) mandatory on S60 3rd.
Of course style matters. For a start, in part at least, it's what makes people adopt, or, in the case of those made up in the US, not adopt new words.
> That is why so many people in the world speak English as a second language.
Bollocks.
The reason so many people speak the English language as a second language is that there are so many people who speak the English language as a *first* language. The reason so many people speak the English language as a *first* language is that the English people have spread it so effectively (for better or worse - mostly worse, but not as worse as others, perhaps).
>What is your preferred coffee-making method, and how does it compare to other methods you've tried?
R OD&ProdID=1524
I really don't get what's so great about ground coffee. It tastes like dirt to me.
I prefer instant coffee. My favourite is Korean - it's English name of Maxim :
http://www.kgrocer.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWP
Freedom? In Germany?
I thought the USA was the only place where there was freedom...
Who thinks up these words? They sound aweful!
Naturally, I blame the USA. They have absolutely no style when it comes to language. Of course they *think* they have style, but everyone else knows otherwise. Unfortunate since they're so often the ones that make up words.
> Then that has absolutely nothing to do with the window manager
Well, that depends on what functions you expect a manager to perform. I expect it to manage windows, not just send events to applications and expect them to do something when they have time.
> I'm not certain if you think a window manager should be some sort of omnipresent overlord
I do.
If I say for a window to minimise, I expect it to minimise. I don't care if the application is busy or hung or anything else. I expect it to minimise.
This is the essence of my complaint...
> I don't know about Aqua, but Windows doesn't have a window manager.
:)
> There is no window manager process, the window is handled by the application process.
> If the application process is busy, the window - including the minimize button -
> doesn't respond.
Well, that explains why it happens on MS Windows
I also don't know if the same is true of Aqua, but it's damned annoying whatever the reason is. Defective by design, IMO.
SGI IRIX 4Dwm is X based, so I would assume that any X based GUI would work irrespective of application state, including those on Linux. I don't have a Linux machine with a graphics head at the moment, so I can't check...
> I believe he was referring to the fact that, should your application beachball (lock up),
> the minimize button will no longer minimize the window consistently. It often chooses to wait
> until the program is responsive again before minimizing. This doesn't happen often, but it
> does happen.
Indeed. I happens a lot for me for some applications - aMule and Mplayer mostly.
> Clicking it works for me, regardless of whether the application is active or not.
It doesn't for me. I've noticed this with several applications, most notably amule and mplayer.
> The light part being the drive shaft,
I was thinking that they drive would be magnetic, not mechanical.
> The problem with in wheel motors is that they have a really high un-sprung weight.
How about only have part (the light part) of the motor on the suspension and having the other (heavy) part on the chassis?
> The only sad thing is going to be our grandkids asking us what it means to drive "stick"
I think that most people alive today don't know what you mean when you say that.
Actually, it sounds kind of rude.
> ... piss ... this movement ...
... this movement ...', I think.
I think you're mixing your bodily functions.
It should be 'shit
The thing that bugs me about both Mac OS X's Aqua (and MS Windows) is how the window manager seems to have so little authority over the windows it manages.
On SGI IRIX's 4Dwm, for example, if I use the window manager to minimise a window (by clicking on the minimise button, for example), it damn well minimises, no matter what state the window's application is in.
Why is Aqua's (and MS Windows's) window manager such a wimp? They have no authority over their windows at all. What kind of manager is that?
> I don't see how grabbing the lower-right of a window makes resizing a window take too long.
Sure - if all you want to do it resize the window, then fine. Unfortunely, resizing is often done in combination with a window move.
Also, what happens when the bottom right corner is off the screen? You're forced to move the window so that the corner is on the screen before you can resize it - if the window is too large for the screen, there's no way to resize it.
I use OS X frequently, and this is something I often find irritating.
Allow me to suggest that 'illegal monopoly' is a valid term for a monopoly that is obtained using illegal methods.
If MS's status could be accurately described as an 'illegal monopoly' (under the above definition) is perhaps worth discussing.
> the next light (40 or 50 yards ahead) is about to turn yellow ...from what colour? In the UK, turning to (only) yellow, means the next colour is red, ie stop. I'd guess it's different in other countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light
So, if the US company doesn't lose or gain anything, what's the problem?
I couldn't help wonder what the 'spouse killer Hans Reiser' has been 'accused' of...terrible grammar, but I can't think of anything better...perhaps, '...Hans Reiser, accused of killing his wife,...' would be better.
Not particularly useful/applicable in this situation, but I thought I'd mention it as tech that can do what you want to do.
I don't know how it works, but it does...
Max.
The thing is, if real ones were sold for the same-ish price (ie affordable and available), IMO no one would buy the fake ones.
It's not that the fake ones are cheap that's the problem. The problem is that the real ones are too expensive.
That's my point. You don't need aircraft carriers for B52s...just fly from Alaska or some Pacific island...or even from the US. ...or from a one of the US 'colonies' in the area.
> Aircraft carriers, which can stop raw materials flowing into those chinese factories.
You know China isn't an island, right?
It might forces some logistical reorganisation, but other than that I don't think aircraft carriers would offer much more than a squadron of B52s....
> Not so good for us
In this case, I don't think it makes much difference. The price of real DVDs is just too high and people just wouldn't buy them.
The only other negative for 'US' would be if they're exported, and I don't believe they are (at least not significantly).
> Of course, every movie Disney has made is available in China on DVD for about 50 cents each, which certainly is copyright infringement, but that's another issue.
It's not the price which makes them copyright infringements, it's the actual copying - you didn't mention that their copies.
Of course, *real* DVDs are *very* difficult to get here (Beijing). I think I saw some in WangFuJing and they were hugely expensive. I only thought they were real ones because of the high price....
If the fake ones weren't available, I don't believe the sales of real ones would increase much at all - they're just too expensive.