Bullshit. A 486 that is still working has probably had upgrades, or atleast has had hardware replaced. Just because it worked well for 10 years doesn't mean it'll work well for 20.
The "fairly inexpensive dell might not last 10 years, but it will be under warrantry long enough that in the odd chance something goes wrong, your employer wont pay for it out of his own pocket.
Are you honestly suggesting a company go around to garage sales, picking up 486s, instead of spending a bit more on a computer they know will work for quite some time?
Two monitors would seem to increase work productivity, and he did not mention the specs of the machine.
For all we know, he considers 1GHz, 256mb RAM, and a 60gb HDD a 'high spec machine'.
Why would work give you a 486? Besides the high chance of it failing in the near future (since you'd be using old parts), you want a machine that is new enough that it won't be prone to hardware failure. This usually means a fairly inexpensive Dell, or some other recent machine.
Most folks don't review the sourcecode of software they purchase to determine if its license-tree is clean.
I can't speak for all companies (and neither can you), but the company I work for DOES check to make sure the software they purchase is license-free, if they plan on redistributing it. It's less costly to have programmers and lawyers look over the code, than to get sued later on under the DMCA.
Sony was foolish for not doing so, and now they'll be forced (hopefully) to pay for it.
I've seen so many posts here modded as +5 Insightful, that rant about how second hand smoking kills. Show me a study published in a scientific journal that proves this, and I'll believe it. Just don't wave around that old Cal/EPA report bullshit, that was debunked years ago.
Actually, it does (with your permission). Usually with old/abandoned houses. Of course, this is usually done in areas that don't have a large concentration of human life.
If we have to choose between saving a few whales, and using a technology that saves human life, then the only option seems to be that we save human life.
If a building is burning down, you don't save a dog instead of a child.
Sadly, this isn't the worse things enviornmentalist groups have done. No, that would probably be comparing the owning of pets to owning human slaves. http://www.animalrights.net/archives/year/2005/000 353.html. And that's not even bringing up the Animal Liberation Front (a group of terrorists who firebomb research labs)
It's hard to vote for a group of people who are so morally replusive that they make W.A.R. look reasonable.
You mean like how the USA passed a law that forced Google to remove links to anti-Scientology websites? How like how USA courts forced 2600 to stop linking to a website that had code that allowed people to watch their own DVDs?
Did you even read your own links? Or do you just enjoy stating misleading "facts"?
The USA did not tell google "Remove links to this website because it makes fun of Scientology.". Scientology lawyers bitched at google, citing the DMCA. It's a bad law, but it's not as bad as killing those who disagree with you, or limiting the terms 'freedom', 'democracy', etc.
If that wasn't bad enough, Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community because last month he dared to make a deal with SCO Group, a company reviled by fans of Linux and other open source software."
Next on Forbes: How much negativity can we pack into one sentence? Find out!
Instead of selling your laptop, however, you might want to pick up a $15 PCMCIA (RTL 8180 chipset) card.
ndiswrapper works quite well with it, and http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ worked perfectly on Slackware 10.2 (don't have to recompile your kernel or anything. comes with a script that'll load the drivers for both 2.4.x and 2.6.x)
Does it matter at this point? If you take away the guns from citizens at this points, they're fucked.
I find it intresting that many/.ers are suspicous of the way the US government is acting, and yet still want to take away the citizens last resort to deal with an oppresive government: guns
1) Ooops! Find your kernels source, kill X, and install the drivers for your video card. Oh, and updated XF86Config. Or Xorg.conf. Whichever one you happen to have. 2) Damnit, another kernel panic. Find what obscure change caused it to happen this time! 3) Ah, so now you have a wireless card? Try to get it working! You might need to use ndiswrapper. If you get another kernel panic, go back to #2. 4) Ah, can't get above 800x600 resolution, eh? Yeah... find your monitors horizontal and verticle refresh rates. Google it, and you might get lucky. 5) Figure out how to resolve RPM dependancies. Shit, that package needs Python 2.4.2, huh? Ah well, 2.3.9 is installed. Guess you're out of luck.
All joking aside, this was a pretty intresting study.;)
The richest man on earth, who owns the biggest computer company in the world, based in Seattle, controls all computers everywhere and uses a computer crisis to launch the ultimate domination of mankind resulting in the final battle between good and evil fought at Armageddon at the actual site in Israel.
Please read his comment before posting. You might find it makes you look like less of an idiot.
and can do the job
This is not an issue of only interviewing them, or giving them the job regardless of performance. If they can do the job as well as another person (or better!) they should not be penalized for being a sociopath. No more than a person should be penalized for any other handicap, as long as they can do the job.
If you don't respect your mom already, and you still need to be spanked when you're 15, then the problem is probably with your mother (as well as with you).
Your freedom? What the hell? It's a privilege, not a right, to use laptops provided by the school. If anything, they're taking away the schools freedom to use their equipment as they see fit.
The diffrence between this and installing Linux on your iPod is that you do not own the laptop. It's not for your enjoyment, it's for school purposes only.
You're quite right, they only very rarely become killers. But it's also worth remembering that Sociopathy is also known as Anti-Social Personality Disorder for a reason. Very rarely do people with this personality type leave others around them negatively unaffected. The more power they have, the more people are likely to get burnt by their disorder.
This is true for not just sociopaths though, correct? Even a empathetic person could make a mistake and negatively affect people around them. Should we start refusing people jobs at random, becayse they might, at some later date, make a bad decision?
Well, I care - just because particular types of behaviour are not legally constrained, does not mean that they should be tolerated. Using a lighter example, a work colleague who persistently and interminably bores you with tales of his boring weekend should not be legally sanctioned, but neither is he going to be your first choice to invite around for dinner. You would shun this person socially, and quite rightly.
I'm glad you care, and if you thought someone you were working with was a sociopath it would be your perogative to shun them. (Just like you could shun a person if you didn't like working with someone who way gay, or black, or had diffrent political beliefs. All of which are things that cannot be changed with medication/counciling, and can affect how a person acts. A lot like being a sociopath, I suppose.)
The law is not the ultimate gauge of whether behaviour is acceptable or not, just a gauge of behaviour that is so outrageously unacceptable as to require some kind of agreed official constraint. Human being operate socially by principles other that The Law alone - this isn't Mega City One.
Agreed, and the law should not be used to crush behavior and ways of thought that it feels to be inappopriate, as long as no one is hurt. Wouldn't you agree? Saying a sociopath should be denied a job is like saying someone who is into BSDM shouldn't be hired, or someone who is homosexual shouldn't be hired.
If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed the part where I said
If someone has the intellegence and ability to do the job
And this is not an issue of someone not being a job because they didn't do well in the interview process. They want to test someone, and deny them a job based upon their score. If they interview well, and can do the job, then leave them alone.
However, there is no reason to follow laws like that which do not make any sense. Spank your kids, talk to them how you want, and win their respect your way.
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Bullshit. A 486 that is still working has probably had upgrades, or atleast has had hardware replaced. Just because it worked well for 10 years doesn't mean it'll work well for 20.
The "fairly inexpensive dell might not last 10 years, but it will be under warrantry long enough that in the odd chance something goes wrong, your employer wont pay for it out of his own pocket.
Are you honestly suggesting a company go around to garage sales, picking up 486s, instead of spending a bit more on a computer they know will work for quite some time?
Two monitors would seem to increase work productivity, and he did not mention the specs of the machine.
For all we know, he considers 1GHz, 256mb RAM, and a 60gb HDD a 'high spec machine'.
Why would work give you a 486? Besides the high chance of it failing in the near future (since you'd be using old parts), you want a machine that is new enough that it won't be prone to hardware failure. This usually means a fairly inexpensive Dell, or some other recent machine.
Most folks don't review the sourcecode of software they purchase to determine if its license-tree is clean.
I can't speak for all companies (and neither can you), but the company I work for DOES check to make sure the software they purchase is license-free, if they plan on redistributing it. It's less costly to have programmers and lawyers look over the code, than to get sued later on under the DMCA.
Sony was foolish for not doing so, and now they'll be forced (hopefully) to pay for it.
Mod parent up.
I've seen so many posts here modded as +5 Insightful, that rant about how second hand smoking kills. Show me a study published in a scientific journal that proves this, and I'll believe it. Just don't wave around that old Cal/EPA report bullshit, that was debunked years ago.
For anyone intrested, here is the PDF file obtained by the EPIC by the FBI.
f oia/iob.pdf
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/
Exactly. America is so evil, and has such a horrible history!
Let's move to a place like Germany, where the government always respects the rights of it's people, and never does anthing bad. Ever.
*tries to stop his right arm from saluting*
Actually, it does (with your permission). Usually with old/abandoned houses. Of course, this is usually done in areas that don't have a large concentration of human life.
:P
Sort of like the ocean.
Not at all.
:)
Your argument: Someone is ignorant because they don't agree with you
My argument: People are not skeptical of enviornmentalists out of ignorance, but because there has been a large amount of (deserved) negative news.
And thankfully I'm not a Christian.
This has nothing to do with ignoring a problem.
If we have to choose between saving a few whales, and using a technology that saves human life, then the only option seems to be that we save human life.
If a building is burning down, you don't save a dog instead of a child.
Bullshit. You're assuming that animal life is as important (if not more important) than human life.
I would suggest that protesting the violation of human rights takes priority over a few dead whales. Do you disagree?
No... it's not ignorance. I think the reason that 'regular guys like him' vote against enviornmentalists is because they are bat-shit insane.
o locaust
0 353.html. And that's not even bringing up the Animal Liberation Front (a group of terrorists who firebomb research labs)
For example, comparing the killing of animals to the holocaust. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/28/peta.h
Sadly, this isn't the worse things enviornmentalist groups have done. No, that would probably be comparing the owning of pets to owning human slaves. http://www.animalrights.net/archives/year/2005/00
It's hard to vote for a group of people who are so morally replusive that they make W.A.R. look reasonable.
You mean like how the USA passed a law that forced Google to remove links to anti-Scientology websites? How like how USA courts forced 2600 to stop linking to a website that had code that allowed people to watch their own DVDs?
Did you even read your own links? Or do you just enjoy stating misleading "facts"?
The USA did not tell google "Remove links to this website because it makes fun of Scientology.". Scientology lawyers bitched at google, citing the DMCA. It's a bad law, but it's not as bad as killing those who disagree with you, or limiting the terms 'freedom', 'democracy', etc.
If that wasn't bad enough, Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community because last month he dared to make a deal with SCO Group, a company reviled by fans of Linux and other open source software."
Next on Forbes: How much negativity can we pack into one sentence? Find out!
You expect an honest answer?
I wasn't aware it was 2004. =)
Instead of selling your laptop, however, you might want to pick up a $15 PCMCIA (RTL 8180 chipset) card.
ndiswrapper works quite well with it, and http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ worked perfectly on Slackware 10.2 (don't have to recompile your kernel or anything. comes with a script that'll load the drivers for both 2.4.x and 2.6.x)
Yeah, but which came first?
/.ers are suspicous of the way the US government is acting, and yet still want to take away the citizens last resort to deal with an oppresive government: guns
Does it matter at this point? If you take away the guns from citizens at this points, they're fucked.
I find it intresting that many
Missing Tests:
;)
1) Ooops! Find your kernels source, kill X, and install the drivers for your video card. Oh, and updated XF86Config. Or Xorg.conf. Whichever one you happen to have.
2) Damnit, another kernel panic. Find what obscure change caused it to happen this time!
3) Ah, so now you have a wireless card? Try to get it working! You might need to use ndiswrapper. If you get another kernel panic, go back to #2.
4) Ah, can't get above 800x600 resolution, eh? Yeah... find your monitors horizontal and verticle refresh rates. Google it, and you might get lucky.
5) Figure out how to resolve RPM dependancies. Shit, that package needs Python 2.4.2, huh? Ah well, 2.3.9 is installed. Guess you're out of luck.
All joking aside, this was a pretty intresting study.
From the site:
The richest man on earth, who owns the biggest computer company in the world, based in Seattle, controls all computers everywhere and uses a computer crisis to launch the ultimate domination of mankind resulting in the final battle between good and evil fought at Armageddon at the actual site in Israel.
I'm not sure if that's a reliable author. =)
This link http://status.cogentco.com/ isn't very helpful to those of us who are being affected. We can't see it.
Anyone have a link that will work for those of us who can't access it?
Actually, I think I'd rather have some of the money that's being spent on war being spent on the people of this country.
But I'm crazy like that.
Please read his comment before posting. You might find it makes you look like less of an idiot.
and can do the job
This is not an issue of only interviewing them, or giving them the job regardless of performance. If they can do the job as well as another person (or better!) they should not be penalized for being a sociopath. No more than a person should be penalized for any other handicap, as long as they can do the job.
You're 15, and it shows in your typing.
If you don't respect your mom already, and you still need to be spanked when you're 15, then the problem is probably with your mother (as well as with you).
Your freedom? What the hell? It's a privilege, not a right, to use laptops provided by the school. If anything, they're taking away the schools freedom to use their equipment as they see fit.
The diffrence between this and installing Linux on your iPod is that you do not own the laptop. It's not for your enjoyment, it's for school purposes only.
These kids deserve what they get.
You're quite right, they only very rarely become killers. But it's also worth remembering that Sociopathy is also known as Anti-Social Personality Disorder for a reason. Very rarely do people with this personality type leave others around them negatively unaffected. The more power they have, the more people are likely to get burnt by their disorder.
This is true for not just sociopaths though, correct? Even a empathetic person could make a mistake and negatively affect people around them. Should we start refusing people jobs at random, becayse they might, at some later date, make a bad decision?
Well, I care - just because particular types of behaviour are not legally constrained, does not mean that they should be tolerated. Using a lighter example, a work colleague who persistently and interminably bores you with tales of his boring weekend should not be legally sanctioned, but neither is he going to be your first choice to invite around for dinner. You would shun this person socially, and quite rightly.
I'm glad you care, and if you thought someone you were working with was a sociopath it would be your perogative to shun them. (Just like you could shun a person if you didn't like working with someone who way gay, or black, or had diffrent political beliefs. All of which are things that cannot be changed with medication/counciling, and can affect how a person acts. A lot like being a sociopath, I suppose.)
The law is not the ultimate gauge of whether behaviour is acceptable or not, just a gauge of behaviour that is so outrageously unacceptable as to require some kind of agreed official constraint. Human being operate socially by principles other that The Law alone - this isn't Mega City One.
Agreed, and the law should not be used to crush behavior and ways of thought that it feels to be inappopriate, as long as no one is hurt. Wouldn't you agree? Saying a sociopath should be denied a job is like saying someone who is into BSDM shouldn't be hired, or someone who is homosexual shouldn't be hired.
If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed the part where I said
If someone has the intellegence and ability to do the job
And this is not an issue of someone not being a job because they didn't do well in the interview process. They want to test someone, and deny them a job based upon their score. If they interview well, and can do the job, then leave them alone.
I completely agree with you.
However, there is no reason to follow laws like that which do not make any sense. Spank your kids, talk to them how you want, and win their respect your way.