I keep seeing comments along the lines of, "They shouldn't have used the word hacker, teacher's won't appeal to that." I think the entire point is being missed, however, as the target is the students. The inherent problem being that the teachers may not adopt the program and introduce it to the kids.
Consider this, though. If I were in high school, I'd be much more intrigued to participate in a program called Hacker High School than I would Introduction to OS Security and the Internet.
I don't quite follow you when you say, "he'd likely not be able to pay the fines." To whom? Nobody really needs to see that money, because there is no single person that was harmed (or should I say annoyed?) in this instance. The idea would be to fine him into bankruptcy, regardless if anyone actually sees any money.
I think bankruptcy would be a better solution than jail for such a crime. After all, what is this guy going to learn in jail, other than how to become a more effective criminal? Oh yeah, he'll learn how to make wine in a plastic bag under his bed with just a piece of bread and some fruit. Just what we need.
I say fine him and give him obscene amounts of community service.
Don't get me wrong, I think this guy should be punished, but 9 years is jail seems a bit too stringent to me. I don't see it as being effective, either.
Think about it a minute. A person can be thrown in jail for sending spam. What happens when a company is resposible for sending out millions of spam emails each day? The company cannot be thrown in jail, only fined. How long before individuals start registering as companies and finding a way around criminal jail sentences for sending spam?
Or maybe I've misunderstood the rights a company holds vs. an individual? Someone please enlighten me.
No offense, but you sound like someone that has never actually been mugged before. And it's no surprise the slashdot community found your misguided words to be insightful.
I have been mugged. Several times. And if the person mugging you has a gun don't - I repeat, DON'T - do anything sudden. You are not in the movies and you aren't going to be a hero. Any sudden movements could easily scare someone who probably isn't very stable at the moment. And believe me, you don't want to add any stress to that unstable persons life when they have a gun in your back.
I don't think it's just about movies recorded in the theater. I think alot of it has to do with ripped DVD quality video. That has *great* value as pirated material.
Try changing "Blog" people to anyone this guy may have an opinion about. You will see that his opinion is utterly worthless to anyone, as far as I can see:
American Library Association president Michael Gorman is not too fond of drinkers and drinking. '[The] Drunk People (or their subclass who are interested in pubs and the glorification of alcohol) have a fanatical belief in the transforming power of alcohol and a consequent horror of, and contempt for, heretics who do not share that belief... Given the quality of the discussions in the pubs I have seen, I doubt that many of the Drunk People are in the habit of sustained reading of complex texts. It is entirely possible that their intellectual needs are met by an accumulation of random bullshit and sports trivia.
Heh. This guy is an ass. Why do we really care what he thinks? Personally, I don't rely on blogs to educate me in the slightest. You always have to read between the lines when people are writing for an audience. That includes many of the beloved books housed in the fine institutions he oversees.
Given the current state of battery life, I'm inclined to think this technology might bring along other trade-offs. Current Lithium batteries tend to lose their full charge capacity after using them for a while. If these batteries charge faster and retain more power, what's to stop them from losing that capacity just as quickly?
Personally, I'd be happy not having to replace a battery because it becomes useless after a while. They aren't cheap, and they lose their life too quickly. I guess 2 out of 3 wouldn't be bad, though.
Dude, the f***ing abacus was only 11 slots away from Tickle Me Elmo, #71?
I somehow don't think they were employing your ideas when compiling this list. While I appreciate your attempt at legitimizing this horrid list, I can't get that fact -- Elmo made the list -- out of my head.
If this list was based merely on usability and functionality, then my god ANYTHING deserves to be marked at #70 or better.
I think you underestimate the pure laziness of American culture. Cost savings isn't the only factor that determines where someone will purchase a product.
Just look at pizza delivery. I get charged a mandatory one dollar tip when ordering out from most pizza shops in my area. Doesn't make me want to run out and pick it up instead. Nope, my fat, lazy, American ass is going to sit in front of the TV and order that pizza.
Ordering online is convenient. Hell, I'd happily pay tax come Christmas time. So long as I can still pay extra to have it wrapped before being delivered.
The dollars add up, but I still get more TIME to do things other than shopping.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. How could I be the only one that didn't know that we didn't know what we couldn't know because it wasn't known to the known population that is was unknown!
That still leaves the unknown population... ugh...
Excerpt: Maintenance Release 1(MR1) (not available in all regions) or Maintenance Release 2 (MR2) disables the installed DEC2EXE engine and is NOT vulnerable to this exploit since the DEC2EXE engine is not called to parse UPX files. The latest Maintenance Release (MR3) removes the DEC2EXE engine, which Symantec strongly recommends. However, some customers may not be able to install the latest MR3 immediately.
Read the comment:
"6 months trying every distro"
I think the word thoroughly works just fine. It's a shame you can't read let alone acuse someone of not being ready for a sys admin position. Just how much time do you spend glazing over documentation before putting it into production? eh?
Good point indeed, but I think you are missing the grand scheme of things. A sys admin may get fed up with their current operating system of choice, Windows to be exact, or they may be intrigued by Linux' low (almost non-existant) entry costs and want an alternative. Why spend 6 months trying every distro known to man just to make a key decision: Which distro do I want to spend my time learning thoroughly?
If a new user to Linux can't find those types of answer, or at least key comparisons of various distro's, then Linux doesn't stand a chance. You will inevitably have folks that try one particular distro, become completely disatisfied with it and never touch Linux again.
Foresight into any operating system is a must if you expect people to translate years of WIndows experience to a new platform.
While I appreciate your wit, I am disappointed in your ability to think your opinion through.
Oh great, someone already modded me up to a 2, Interesting. Guess I'm not the only one that glazed over that article and mixed it up. heh. For about an hour or so, I was thinking they released a new line of processors. ugh.
MOD PARENT DOWN ALREADY! Hurry, I don't want to risk embarassment on Slashdot. My reputation all over will be ruined!
I read another article about the PT's linked on the homepage of the El Reg website.. I don't remember the article mentioning much about it's advantages/disadvantages compared to the P4 or Athlon line of processors.
I do recall the VIA chipsets running at much cooler temperatures than it's competitors. Perhaps they are on to something. With everyone jumping onto the SFF bandwagon, their chips could prove to be quite befitting in that area. I myself wouldn't mind seeing a 2 GHz processor that doesn't need a bohemoth of a heatsink to keep it cool.
It'd be interesting to see how the temperatures compare to the Pentium-M line.
I've noticed something quite interesting in my time administering both Mac and Windows based PC's:
Whenever I stand above the average Windows Office user to help them out, they are almost oblivious to the right mouse button. They know it's there, if I tell them to use it for a particular task, and they understand me just fine. But for some reason, the pc users insist on mousing all the way to the menu bar at the top of their window to perform 95% of their actions.
The Mac users, all graphics artisits, almost never use their menu bar. They use control/option/openapple and whatever shortcut key gets the job done the fastest. Of the few Mac users that have had 2-button (or more) mice, they constantly ask me what it's used for. When I tell them it is an alternative to option-clicking everything, I usually hear something along the lines of, "Oh, well, screww that. I can do it faster with the keyboard."
I think it all has to do with the specific tasks you're performing from day-to-day. All of the Mac users spend most of their time "building" page layouts and the likes. They'll also spend hours of their time in one program with plenty of time to learns it's interface. They'll pick up on shortcuts in no time at all. If they didn't, I'd imagine they'd work a bit slower than those around them.
On the other hand, our Microsoft users don't spend much time in any one program, other than Outlook. They spend 75% of their day on the phone, researching whatever, communicating inter-departmentally, or whatever they do. None of them care to become faster at the PC because they see no real benefit in it. They know they can use their left mouse button to read/reply/delete emails. They don't spend much time writing works of art in Word, so they don't worry about the contextual shortcuts built-in.
Myself, being a rather technical user, I'd be completely pissed off without my right mouse button and scroll wheel when using Windows (at work) or Linux (at home). However, when I'm using a Mac, I find it much easier to learn the shortcuts than with Windows. It just seems that the Mac makes better use of the keyboard for redundant, neccesary tasks.
Am I the only one that sees the "Informative" moderation given to this comment? Hmmm, maybe the moderators are still hungover from a late Friday night... Oh wait, this is Slashdot. I give up, I've got nothing.
The AMD development team have reached their 65th milestone in the production of the Live CD version of 'Hoary Hedgehog' of the marketing team that came up with VIIV of great fame from just two articles ago of great popularity amongst many fans of the Roman numeral system. Or just a typo. I'm still weighing the various factors in my head.
Quite a vague observation their professor plum. Perhaps we could all ponder the many ways we can exploit the critical points of your knee caps should we ever meet you in person?
Please forgive me, I don't mean to bash. It just seemed like an obvious one. I couldn't resist.
Come on, this is Slashdot, where are all the open source loving, hippy freaks? Come on Slashdot, I know you've got it in you. Just think about this:
To my knowledge, Google has done their best to obfuscate every bit of code they've ever developed. So why the excitement over a Google browser or Google OS? Do you expect Google to all of a sudden start using open technologies that everyone can use for themselves? I mean come on, they don't hire "the best in the biz" so they can go and throw all that great proprietary goodness to the masses?
Don't get me wrong, I love open source technology as much as the rest. But has Google ever given us anything of that nature to really give them this much Slashdot lovage?
Your opinion is in complete disregard to the other 90% of users on the internet. There spigot is going to be spewing toxic waste into their house in no time at all. In turn, we all suffer.
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I keep seeing comments along the lines of, "They shouldn't have used the word hacker, teacher's won't appeal to that." I think the entire point is being missed, however, as the target is the students. The inherent problem being that the teachers may not adopt the program and introduce it to the kids.
Consider this, though. If I were in high school, I'd be much more intrigued to participate in a program called Hacker High School than I would Introduction to OS Security and the Internet.
But that's just me.
I don't quite follow you when you say, "he'd likely not be able to pay the fines." To whom? Nobody really needs to see that money, because there is no single person that was harmed (or should I say annoyed?) in this instance. The idea would be to fine him into bankruptcy, regardless if anyone actually sees any money.
I think bankruptcy would be a better solution than jail for such a crime. After all, what is this guy going to learn in jail, other than how to become a more effective criminal? Oh yeah, he'll learn how to make wine in a plastic bag under his bed with just a piece of bread and some fruit. Just what we need.
I say fine him and give him obscene amounts of community service.
Don't get me wrong, I think this guy should be punished, but 9 years is jail seems a bit too stringent to me. I don't see it as being effective, either.
Think about it a minute. A person can be thrown in jail for sending spam. What happens when a company is resposible for sending out millions of spam emails each day? The company cannot be thrown in jail, only fined. How long before individuals start registering as companies and finding a way around criminal jail sentences for sending spam?
Or maybe I've misunderstood the rights a company holds vs. an individual? Someone please enlighten me.
No offense, but you sound like someone that has never actually been mugged before. And it's no surprise the slashdot community found your misguided words to be insightful.
I have been mugged. Several times. And if the person mugging you has a gun don't - I repeat, DON'T - do anything sudden. You are not in the movies and you aren't going to be a hero. Any sudden movements could easily scare someone who probably isn't very stable at the moment. And believe me, you don't want to add any stress to that unstable persons life when they have a gun in your back.
At least, not in my neighborhood.
I don't think it's just about movies recorded in the theater. I think alot of it has to do with ripped DVD quality video. That has *great* value as pirated material.
Try changing "Blog" people to anyone this guy may have an opinion about. You will see that his opinion is utterly worthless to anyone, as far as I can see:
American Library Association president Michael Gorman is not too fond of drinkers and drinking. '[The] Drunk People (or their subclass who are interested in pubs and the glorification of alcohol) have a fanatical belief in the transforming power of alcohol and a consequent horror of, and contempt for, heretics who do not share that belief... Given the quality of the discussions in the pubs I have seen, I doubt that many of the Drunk People are in the habit of sustained reading of complex texts. It is entirely possible that their intellectual needs are met by an accumulation of random bullshit and sports trivia.
Heh. This guy is an ass. Why do we really care what he thinks? Personally, I don't rely on blogs to educate me in the slightest. You always have to read between the lines when people are writing for an audience. That includes many of the beloved books housed in the fine institutions he oversees.
Given the current state of battery life, I'm inclined to think this technology might bring along other trade-offs. Current Lithium batteries tend to lose their full charge capacity after using them for a while. If these batteries charge faster and retain more power, what's to stop them from losing that capacity just as quickly?
Personally, I'd be happy not having to replace a battery because it becomes useless after a while. They aren't cheap, and they lose their life too quickly. I guess 2 out of 3 wouldn't be bad, though.
Dude, the f***ing abacus was only 11 slots away from Tickle Me Elmo, #71?
I somehow don't think they were employing your ideas when compiling this list. While I appreciate your attempt at legitimizing this horrid list, I can't get that fact -- Elmo made the list -- out of my head.
If this list was based merely on usability and functionality, then my god ANYTHING deserves to be marked at #70 or better.
STFU. It's an industry term, ya know?
I think you underestimate the pure laziness of American culture. Cost savings isn't the only factor that determines where someone will purchase a product.
Just look at pizza delivery. I get charged a mandatory one dollar tip when ordering out from most pizza shops in my area. Doesn't make me want to run out and pick it up instead. Nope, my fat, lazy, American ass is going to sit in front of the TV and order that pizza.
Ordering online is convenient. Hell, I'd happily pay tax come Christmas time. So long as I can still pay extra to have it wrapped before being delivered.
The dollars add up, but I still get more TIME to do things other than shopping.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. How could I be the only one that didn't know that we didn't know what we couldn't know because it wasn't known to the known population that is was unknown!
That still leaves the unknown population... ugh...
Your fine, check this link out:
u rity/Content/2005.02.08.html
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/sec
9.0.2.1000 = MR2
Excerpt:
Maintenance Release 1(MR1) (not available in all regions) or Maintenance Release 2 (MR2) disables the installed DEC2EXE engine and is NOT vulnerable to this exploit since the DEC2EXE engine is not called to parse UPX files. The latest Maintenance Release (MR3) removes the DEC2EXE engine, which Symantec strongly recommends. However, some customers may not be able to install the latest MR3 immediately.
You freely admit that this guy is part of your bloodline? Scary.
Read the comment: "6 months trying every distro" I think the word thoroughly works just fine. It's a shame you can't read let alone acuse someone of not being ready for a sys admin position. Just how much time do you spend glazing over documentation before putting it into production? eh?
Good point indeed, but I think you are missing the grand scheme of things. A sys admin may get fed up with their current operating system of choice, Windows to be exact, or they may be intrigued by Linux' low (almost non-existant) entry costs and want an alternative. Why spend 6 months trying every distro known to man just to make a key decision: Which distro do I want to spend my time learning thoroughly?
If a new user to Linux can't find those types of answer, or at least key comparisons of various distro's, then Linux doesn't stand a chance. You will inevitably have folks that try one particular distro, become completely disatisfied with it and never touch Linux again.
Foresight into any operating system is a must if you expect people to translate years of WIndows experience to a new platform.
While I appreciate your wit, I am disappointed in your ability to think your opinion through.
Oh great, someone already modded me up to a 2, Interesting. Guess I'm not the only one that glazed over that article and mixed it up. heh. For about an hour or so, I was thinking they released a new line of processors. ugh.
MOD PARENT DOWN ALREADY! Hurry, I don't want to risk embarassment on Slashdot. My reputation all over will be ruined!
I guess it would have helped had I paid attention to the word Chipsets. heh.
Disregard the ignorance of my last comment. Mod down to 0, off topic and stupid.
I read another article about the PT's linked on the homepage of the El Reg website.. I don't remember the article mentioning much about it's advantages/disadvantages compared to the P4 or Athlon line of processors.
I do recall the VIA chipsets running at much cooler temperatures than it's competitors. Perhaps they are on to something. With everyone jumping onto the SFF bandwagon, their chips could prove to be quite befitting in that area. I myself wouldn't mind seeing a 2 GHz processor that doesn't need a bohemoth of a heatsink to keep it cool.
It'd be interesting to see how the temperatures compare to the Pentium-M line.
I've noticed something quite interesting in my time administering both Mac and Windows based PC's:
Whenever I stand above the average Windows Office user to help them out, they are almost oblivious to the right mouse button. They know it's there, if I tell them to use it for a particular task, and they understand me just fine. But for some reason, the pc users insist on mousing all the way to the menu bar at the top of their window to perform 95% of their actions.
The Mac users, all graphics artisits, almost never use their menu bar. They use control/option/openapple and whatever shortcut key gets the job done the fastest. Of the few Mac users that have had 2-button (or more) mice, they constantly ask me what it's used for. When I tell them it is an alternative to option-clicking everything, I usually hear something along the lines of, "Oh, well, screww that. I can do it faster with the keyboard."
I think it all has to do with the specific tasks you're performing from day-to-day. All of the Mac users spend most of their time "building" page layouts and the likes. They'll also spend hours of their time in one program with plenty of time to learns it's interface. They'll pick up on shortcuts in no time at all. If they didn't, I'd imagine they'd work a bit slower than those around them.
On the other hand, our Microsoft users don't spend much time in any one program, other than Outlook. They spend 75% of their day on the phone, researching whatever, communicating inter-departmentally, or whatever they do. None of them care to become faster at the PC because they see no real benefit in it. They know they can use their left mouse button to read/reply/delete emails. They don't spend much time writing works of art in Word, so they don't worry about the contextual shortcuts built-in.
Myself, being a rather technical user, I'd be completely pissed off without my right mouse button and scroll wheel when using Windows (at work) or Linux (at home). However, when I'm using a Mac, I find it much easier to learn the shortcuts than with Windows. It just seems that the Mac makes better use of the keyboard for redundant, neccesary tasks.
Am I the only one that sees the "Informative" moderation given to this comment? Hmmm, maybe the moderators are still hungover from a late Friday night... Oh wait, this is Slashdot. I give up, I've got nothing.
The AMD development team have reached their 65th milestone in the production of the Live CD version of 'Hoary Hedgehog' of the marketing team that came up with VIIV of great fame from just two articles ago of great popularity amongst many fans of the Roman numeral system. Or just a typo. I'm still weighing the various factors in my head.
Quite a vague observation their professor plum. Perhaps we could all ponder the many ways we can exploit the critical points of your knee caps should we ever meet you in person?
Please forgive me, I don't mean to bash. It just seemed like an obvious one. I couldn't resist.
Come on, this is Slashdot, where are all the open source loving, hippy freaks? Come on Slashdot, I know you've got it in you. Just think about this:
To my knowledge, Google has done their best to obfuscate every bit of code they've ever developed. So why the excitement over a Google browser or Google OS? Do you expect Google to all of a sudden start using open technologies that everyone can use for themselves? I mean come on, they don't hire "the best in the biz" so they can go and throw all that great proprietary goodness to the masses?
Don't get me wrong, I love open source technology as much as the rest. But has Google ever given us anything of that nature to really give them this much Slashdot lovage?
You seem very concerned. Better submit that last Slashdot comment before checking it out.
Your opinion is in complete disregard to the other 90% of users on the internet. There spigot is going to be spewing toxic waste into their house in no time at all. In turn, we all suffer.