I work in games and he is absolutely correct. The "ghetto hood" thing is up. Its done, its over.
Thats not to say that rap isnt done, but the old NWA gansta shit we grew up with... is.
Its become a farce. Its now a cartoon of what was always stupid and ridiculous no matter how cool we thought it was to rebel along side with it.
GTA games are exhausting. Thats not to say that a new GTA wont be a big hit because GTA is far more than just "ghetto hood style" Its only recently they've taken it deeper into that bullshit genre and have cartooned it in many respects.
GTA San Andreas, was of no interest to me, and as my friends play it... we mock it. "We got Respect!" Yeah... great... now what.
GTA San Andreas has some great environment modelling and the idea of a virtual city and free reign will never get old as long as your ability to "live" in that city becomes more real. In other words, the goal is a virtual city without much scripted behavior. More of a do as you please, close to life experience as possible... Thats the goal of the GTA virtual city phenomenon.
The ghetto aspects of it is a farce. Its a marketing tool. The run around and kill things wont get old... well it does, but it has to be changed and given new life through new game play ideas within the virtual city.
The ghetto games are pathetic. Infact i was working on a game concept for a major hip hop persona. The game to this date has not gone through. They were just interested in the marketing aspects... not the game. They didnt care much about the game as long as they could use their hip hop image to sell it.... as if thats all it took to make a game popular.
The ghetto hood thing is dead. We're adults now and the kids are different. Sure theres still good hip hop music, and the teens enjoy it, but its not the same as it was. The whole gangsta thing is a joke now and i'm thankful for that. There are much better things in life to promote... even if i was a fan of much of a lot of the music.... It's nice to see people growing up, including myself.
There are better things out there.
That does not mean for a second that the genre wont still be around in some small form. Did mafia films die out completely? No. But the mass marketing appeal, the sure hit, the bullshit used by marketers... can no longer work using the ghetto slant... Because its become a joke.
"This doesn't really follow. You're basically saying that Ubuntu should be able to "take on" Apple only if it can defeat Microsoft? Microsoft still has the majority OS share, and Apple is still a niche market."
I realized when i posted the message that this wouldnt make sense...:) What i meant to say was in the windows applications. If it hasnt made a dent in moving people over based on comparison to the application offerings available on windows, why would apple users move. Of course windows pc being a much bigger market than apple, but the applications are more plentiful on windows... and linux hasnt done a great job of convincing even a few to port.
I have all the interest in the world in linux... but until it gets the apps... i cant do much with it.
Peter Cullen, you suck at your job. This is a dumb pr move and you know it. Peter Cullen doesnt care about privacy and until microsoft starts caring... We shall blame Peter Cullen. Peter Cullen sucks at his job. Step up to the plate, Peter Cullen.
microsoft is using your name as damage control, I'm using it until you own up to your horrible doings. Peter Cullen, your name will be assosiated with "liar" until you prove other wise...
you just said "These people do the internet, thats it." I stated that is the thing linux does best. If all you're doing is the internet... you wont miss anything on windows. (except for newsbin pro)
But i've stated in the past and if i remember in that message, that if you're doing just email, browsing, im, ftp, irc, etc then people can switch to linux just fine.
I'd like to see a bigger play by the Linux world. I want to see them put some serious competition into the game where people go... "you know... theres Linux and its free... and dam these programs better than office, premiere, photoshop..."
I think every city block should record our activity on the block. As we move from city block, each block records our movements and if we do any activity such as buy food, knock on a door, communicate with another human being, or even... have sex...
It's not going to drive the linux market share up because linux does not offer the same software.
Lets look at all of the people who use a pirated copy of Photoshop and windows XP.
Why do they run windows? Because they like photoshop. Now they could run it on a mac as well, but they want 3dstudio max, which is also a windows app.
So they run windows. They like windows, they know windows, because its all they know. It has the software, the games, everything they know of. Linux can not offer the same.
When they get locked out of windows, they're going to figure out a way to get XP legally. Or do you think Microsoft didnt think this out?
You think Microsoft makes a move like this without factoring in all the possibilities. Its not like coder just says "i think i'll make a WGA program"
They have factored in all of the resulting possibilities and there is no reason to beleive that even more than 5% will go linux.
We're talking about teens.. you know those teenaged computer geeks we used to be. You know the ones that ran BBSs, or dialed into them to dl 0-day warez... those geeks that knew what an NUP was...
Those are the people who are not going linux, if they at all care about what software they use. If someone is editing videos to put on any one of the billion college humor video pages like youtube, stile, ebaums etc, they're probably using Premiere, or Sony vegas... They wont be editing video on linux. They just wont. They will need windows, and the software they know.
They will find a way to get a legal XP or perhaps go mac.
There is NOTHING on linux that even offers a 3rd of the quality of software on windows. When will linux people learn?
Its an operating system with some great networking apps, and nothing more. IF linux advocates (and i consider myself one of them) care at all about winning the OS war, they better start developing real applications and start selling them for a fee.
Software like Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, Softimage XSI, Pro E, Word, etc are not made using losely organized open source efforts. There arent many open source efforts that have a tight organization or even a company to provide a living wage to its contributors/employees.
The great software that most people use on Mac Os and Windows... are developed by companies for a reason.
The major companies supporting open source.. IBM.. Novell etc.. are profitable because they are companies that started with products they sold. They are established companies. Redhat got lucky;)
I'm not saying linux cant thrive. I'm saying people need to start forming their own buisnesses, and selling real competitive software packages that rival and beat the major software packages that exist on mac and windows. Until then, a group of free time hacking folks are not going to produce a serious video editing platform for linux.
The question is.. What do you want to do with your computer?
If you're answer is run linux... then people will run linux.
If you're answer is... i want to make funny movies with my friends, edit pictures, send them, watch dvds, play games, use the internet, write word docs, work in excell, communicate by using standard formats everyone else is using... use my ipod, or any other hardware...
You're answer is Windows, or a Mac. Because Linux does not currently cover everything. Just because a linux user can enjoy listening to mp3s, using email, gaim, browseing running apache, and playing videos with the terrible media players on linux... doesnt mean everyone else is going to run to linux. It's not realistic yet. There are no real software alternatives on linux... there are hacky side projects...
Granted there are some ports of say Softimage XSI, Maya,Houdini, renderman... I'm in the graphics industry i know all about it.. And this is a key movement.
You see people arent going to move to linux until there is something there that they know and want. I use softimage all the time... I will no
I'm a PC user and i love those new Mac ads. Apple is correct, and PC be damned for it. Let them hammer the PC.... let them hurt Microsoft.
I'm all for it frankly. More PC users should go MAC. I've begun to like Mac OS after having used one lately.
Microsoft needs to to attacked. They're lame, giant and intrusive. Someone needs to attack them publically. Us "bloggers" arent going to do much good with our silly rants.
I hope microsoft loses 3 million PC users world wide in the coming year. I want them to feel the pain. I have no love for MS any more.
They put me through hell when my activation code didnt work when reinstalling at a critical moment when i needed it to work.
Linux isnt there yet... or i'd consider it.... so there is Apple. I actually entered a contest recently to win one...:)
I'll gladly take a Mac these days. Microsoft needs its ass kicked for its stupidity
"Where is innocent till proven guilty philiosophy gone?"... right up the baby's ass.
There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty. Never was. It was something we were to aspire to, because as humans we do not honestly beleive this.
You disagree with me, you're guilty! You dont like my politician, you're the enemy... You dont support the war, you're a commie!
You dont join the party because you're anti American.
Its US for them. I'm right, you're wrong. You can't possibly be right, because I am right. You are guilty because i say so.
DUDE.. Fucking children is bad ok... What part of fucking children do you find acceptable cause we true Americans do not find it acceptable. Not 1 bit. Sir! Are you a pedophile?! What do you have to hide! You are supporting Pedophilia by not allowing the law to invade all of our privacy.
You sir, are Anti-American. I bet you dont love Jesus. Thats it... I'm calling the cops... this fucker does not love Jesus and he's obviously a kid fucker!
Fucking children is bad sir. very bad.
Is that a copy of grand theft auto in your playstation... JESUS CHRIST MAN! You are SATAN!
Very sorry about my non paragraphical style. It happens when i post in plain text... i could never figure out how to get that to work without posting in html.
You do make some good points about WM. Windows could certainly borrow some things from it. I've always liked virtual desktops and windows always fell short of really providing it as well as Nix did. There are some solutions though.
I have no doubt in my mind that Linux is the network os, I'm running firefox, thunderbird and Gaim on windows. All OSS apps that i could easily run on linux. But linux does fall short in the media playing catagory and of course games and just about everything else.
I'm not saying its not ready to take on the role of being an OS for those things (Although i do think there is a lot of refinement needed) I'm sayings its not ready because it doesnt offer enough software wise. There is no way in hell people are going to dump Office for Open Office unless they absolutely have to. There is no way that people will just install linux on their pc when all of the games are on Windows. People who like to make flash animations wont be moving to linux...
If surfing the net is the only use of the PC, then sure linux has you covered but when you start to branch out... you hit walls. I remember i hated running Evolution and Pan... Thunderbird was a godsend:) And i ran newsbin pro under wine.
The graphics stuff i think will get to linux sooner than later actually. It's already happening but its not happening on a large scale yet and the sales just arent there unfortunately when compared to the Windows versions.
These DRM issues are only going to make it harder for people to consider migrating to linux if they cant play their stuff in linux.
"What is important though is now when I buy my next computer I will be able to get her to agree to have linux as the only OS on the computer and she is now in a possition to understand why it is better."
The problem is Linux is not better. Its far from better. It doesnt have what windows has, which is the same software, or equal/better software.
Linux is not for everyone and it wont be by the time Vista is on sale.
Will Linux have full HD DVD resolution support like Vista?
Linux just is not ready, or i would be using it!
I need a range of apps most are windows based, some do have linux ports such as Softimage XSI, Alias Maya, Houdini, Renderman...
Linux is a great start, but its not for grandma or grandpa. It's difficult, its odd, its complicated, and lacks refinement in many ways.
Is there a Skype for linux?
Word? (Open Office is a let down)
The reason i ask about skype is because people arent going to easily jump to linux without knowing that their app is already there.
I'm sure there are other VOIP like software for linux but i dont know them, so why would i even think of leaving windows? Its far easier to change OS when you can reasonably expect something out of it.
Right now you can not expect 96% of your windows apps to be there...
You cant break an addict like that:)
Linux is not ready... if it was, i would be using. I ran BBS back in the day with DESQVIEW and QEMM, Norton Commander, Teleguard bbs software, Renegade, PCboard, wildcat, you name it... i'm a computer user...
I could run Linux if i wanted, but its not for me yet. Heck i run GAiM on windows:) I'd run linux beleive me... I just wish it was ready.
It's not ready enough for this war. Yet.
Linux is playing catchup in many areas... but its so far behind in the application area.
Figure this... Linux has Firefox, Thunderbird, GAiM all apps I and many others run on windows now. Thats not bad. Thats a great start for the OSS world.
However... Those are networking programs... and we all know Linux excells at this area.
Its everything else that Linux fails at. It's not ready. Until the Adobe's of the world come knocking...
Look at the windows manager UI in linux... MS is going full 3d accelerated. I know linux has a project to do a similar thing but its far from ready. Vista and MacOS will use this approach to UI... Linux... who i thought is the hackers dream OS, would have done this FIRST....
So do we have to wait now, while linux catches up to VISTA ? How about Flash support?
Linux has so much to catchup on. IF you're a computer user you need to be productive with your computer. Linux excells in some fields but as a general use desktop os for a wide range of applications, it fails miserably.
I dont want to use Windows. I would rather use MacOS... but i would also rather use an OSS alternative to both.... its a shame none exists...
It is every corporations interest to secure their media/hardware/product.
They do not care about what you want.
I mean i agree that yeah in a perfect world we all just say "NO" to Vista and microsoft says "oh dam.. shit.. no one is buying vista!.. NOT 1 dam copy sold!"
But thats not going to happen. It will never happen.
Microsoft, and all of the other corporations are all on the same page and will deliver similar protection schemes. NONE of them have an interest in liberating their product just because the other guy is securing it.
I guess our only hope is for the smaller asian tech companies to release products that do not contain those restricting features.
The problem is.. do you think our government will allow them into the country?
We'll all be ebaying our hardware:)
The forces are far to great. We have no real choice in the matter. WE the few that care, hopefully can ebay hardware that only us geeks have heard of... and the rest of the country will be stuck with DRM.
Its really our only i hope i guess.. that and the hackers out there becasue there is no alternative to Vista or Mac OS. Please dont say linux.. its not ready for prime time.
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I work in games and he is absolutely correct. The "ghetto hood" thing is up. Its done, its over.
Thats not to say that rap isnt done, but the old NWA gansta shit we grew up with... is.
Its become a farce. Its now a cartoon of what was always stupid and ridiculous no matter how cool we thought it was to rebel along side with it.
GTA games are exhausting. Thats not to say that a new GTA wont be a big hit because GTA is far more than just "ghetto hood style" Its only recently they've taken it deeper into that bullshit genre and have cartooned it in many respects.
GTA San Andreas, was of no interest to me, and as my friends play it... we mock it. "We got Respect!" Yeah... great... now what.
GTA San Andreas has some great environment modelling and the idea of a virtual city and free reign will never get old as long as your ability to "live" in that city becomes more real. In other words, the goal is a virtual city without much scripted behavior. More of a do as you please, close to life experience as possible... Thats the goal of the GTA virtual city phenomenon.
The ghetto aspects of it is a farce. Its a marketing tool. The run around and kill things wont get old... well it does, but it has to be changed and given new life through new game play ideas within the virtual city.
The ghetto games are pathetic. Infact i was working on a game concept for a major hip hop persona. The game to this date has not gone through. They were just interested in the marketing aspects... not the game. They didnt care much about the game as long as they could use their hip hop image to sell it.... as if thats all it took to make a game popular.
The ghetto hood thing is dead. We're adults now and the kids are different. Sure theres still good hip hop music, and the teens enjoy it, but its not the same as it was. The whole gangsta thing is a joke now and i'm thankful for that. There are much better things in life to promote... even if i was a fan of much of a lot of the music.... It's nice to see people growing up, including myself.
There are better things out there.
That does not mean for a second that the genre wont still be around in some small form. Did mafia films die out completely? No. But the mass marketing appeal, the sure hit, the bullshit used by marketers... can no longer work using the ghetto slant... Because its become a joke.
And on a side note.. Hayao Miyazaki rules.
These people will finally upgrade to a new computer with xp installed.
They're not going to install linux. The kind of people who are still running 98 are the kind of people that would be completely lost in linux.
Besides why would anyone switch to linux? The are few to no applications.
Get to app writing and stop hoping to pick up a few windows 98 users who cant afford new pcs
... No matter how much Forbes is trying to rebrand her character.
Open office.
If someone gives you an Open doc format, Microsoft doesnt want you installing the free competition to read it.
They want to keep you in their Office suite. (which is very nice btw)
agreed.
"This doesn't really follow. You're basically saying that Ubuntu should be able to "take on" Apple only if it can defeat Microsoft? Microsoft still has the majority OS share, and Apple is still a niche market."
:) What i meant to say was in the windows applications. If it hasnt made a dent in moving people over based on comparison to the application offerings available on windows, why would apple users move. Of course windows pc being a much bigger market than apple, but the applications are more plentiful on windows... and linux hasnt done a great job of convincing even a few to port.
I realized when i posted the message that this wouldnt make sense...
I have all the interest in the world in linux... but until it gets the apps... i cant do much with it.
Peter Cullen, you suck at your job. This is a dumb pr move and you know it. Peter Cullen doesnt care about privacy and until microsoft starts caring... We shall blame Peter Cullen. Peter Cullen sucks at his job. Step up to the plate, Peter Cullen.
microsoft is using your name as damage control, I'm using it until you own up to your horrible doings. Peter Cullen, your name will be assosiated with "liar" until you prove other wise...
Peter Cullen.
Ubuntu is going to destroy Apple Computers! It's going to take down the great Mac. Beleive it!
Uh... wake up dreamers.
Apple is a solid computer with a long list of great applications. Dont expect Ubuntu to take out Apple when it cant even take out windows.
Its all about the apps...
I think i got exactly what you're saying.
:)
you just said "These people do the internet, thats it." I stated that is the thing linux does best. If all you're doing is the internet... you wont miss anything on windows. (except for newsbin pro)
But i've stated in the past and if i remember in that message, that if you're doing just email, browsing, im, ftp, irc, etc then people can switch to linux just fine.
I'd like to see a bigger play by the Linux world. I want to see them put some serious competition into the game where people go... "you know... theres Linux and its free... and dam these programs better than office, premiere, photoshop..."
Look at Apple...
They play hardball
I think every city block should record our activity on the block. As we move from city block, each block records our movements and if we do any activity such as buy food, knock on a door, communicate with another human being, or even... have sex...
Its for our own safety!
It's not going to drive the linux market share up because linux does not offer the same software.
;)
Lets look at all of the people who use a pirated copy of Photoshop and windows XP.
Why do they run windows? Because they like photoshop. Now they could run it on a mac as well, but they want 3dstudio max, which is also a windows app.
So they run windows. They like windows, they know windows, because its all they know. It has the software, the games, everything they know of. Linux can not offer the same.
When they get locked out of windows, they're going to figure out a way to get XP legally. Or do you think Microsoft didnt think this out?
You think Microsoft makes a move like this without factoring in all the possibilities. Its not like coder just says "i think i'll make a WGA program"
They have factored in all of the resulting possibilities and there is no reason to beleive that even more than 5% will go linux.
We're talking about teens.. you know those teenaged computer geeks we used to be. You know the ones that ran BBSs, or dialed into them to dl 0-day warez... those geeks that knew what an NUP was...
Those are the people who are not going linux, if they at all care about what software they use. If someone is editing videos to put on any one of the billion college humor video pages like youtube, stile, ebaums etc, they're probably using Premiere, or Sony vegas... They wont be editing video on linux. They just wont. They will need windows, and the software they know.
They will find a way to get a legal XP or perhaps go mac.
There is NOTHING on linux that even offers a 3rd of the quality of software on windows. When will linux people learn?
Its an operating system with some great networking apps, and nothing more. IF linux advocates (and i consider myself one of them) care at all about winning the OS war, they better start developing real applications and start selling them for a fee.
Software like Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, Softimage XSI, Pro E, Word, etc are not made using losely organized open source efforts. There arent many open source efforts that have a tight organization or even a company to provide a living wage to its contributors/employees.
The great software that most people use on Mac Os and Windows... are developed by companies for a reason.
The major companies supporting open source.. IBM.. Novell etc.. are profitable because they are companies that started with products they sold. They are established companies. Redhat got lucky
I'm not saying linux cant thrive. I'm saying people need to start forming their own buisnesses, and selling real competitive software packages that rival and beat the major software packages that exist on mac and windows. Until then, a group of free time hacking folks are not going to produce a serious video editing platform for linux.
The question is.. What do you want to do with your computer?
If you're answer is run linux... then people will run linux.
If you're answer is... i want to make funny movies with my friends, edit pictures, send them, watch dvds, play games, use the internet, write word docs, work in excell, communicate by using standard formats everyone else is using... use my ipod, or any other hardware...
You're answer is Windows, or a Mac. Because Linux does not currently cover everything. Just because a linux user can enjoy listening to mp3s, using email, gaim, browseing running apache, and playing videos with the terrible media players on linux... doesnt mean everyone else is going to run to linux. It's not realistic yet. There are no real software alternatives on linux... there are hacky side projects...
Granted there are some ports of say Softimage XSI, Maya,Houdini, renderman... I'm in the graphics industry i know all about it.. And this is a key movement.
You see people arent going to move to linux until there is something there that they know and want. I use softimage all the time... I will no
You linux people make me laugh. So blinded by your own bias...
"These people didn't choose xp cause it was windows, they did choose it because it was free."
Those choose XP because of the software available on XP and the compatibility with the rest of the people who use software that only runs on windows.
They didnt choose the pirate XP because it was free.
I like linux as much as the next guy.... except it doesnt have the software that windows does. Until Linux does... It will NEVER will beat windows.
I run Firefox, thunderbird and Gaim on windows... I could easily run them on Linux but the other software i run, i can not.
I'm a PC user and i love those new Mac ads. Apple is correct, and PC be damned for it. Let them hammer the PC.... let them hurt Microsoft.
:)
I'm all for it frankly. More PC users should go MAC. I've begun to like Mac OS after having used one lately.
Microsoft needs to to attacked. They're lame, giant and intrusive. Someone needs to attack them publically. Us "bloggers" arent going to do much good with our silly rants.
I hope microsoft loses 3 million PC users world wide in the coming year. I want them to feel the pain. I have no love for MS any more.
They put me through hell when my activation code didnt work when reinstalling at a critical moment when i needed it to work.
Linux isnt there yet... or i'd consider it.... so there is Apple. I actually entered a contest recently to win one...
I'll gladly take a Mac these days. Microsoft needs its ass kicked for its stupidity
These are perhaps some of the finest games ever made.
ICO is certainly a masterpeice.
"Where is innocent till proven guilty philiosophy gone?" ... right up the baby's ass.
There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty. Never was. It was something we were to aspire to, because as humans we do not honestly beleive this.
You disagree with me, you're guilty! You dont like my politician, you're the enemy... You dont support the war, you're a commie!
You dont join the party because you're anti American.
Its US for them. I'm right, you're wrong. You can't possibly be right, because I am right. You are guilty because i say so.
"...cue the jokes about the Catholic Church!"
Well where do you think all of the kiddy porn comes from sir? It doesnt grow on trees ya know.
DUDE.. Fucking children is bad ok... What part of fucking children do you find acceptable cause we true Americans do not find it acceptable. Not 1 bit. Sir! Are you a pedophile?! What do you have to hide! You are supporting Pedophilia by not allowing the law to invade all of our privacy.
You sir, are Anti-American. I bet you dont love Jesus. Thats it... I'm calling the cops... this fucker does not love Jesus and he's obviously a kid fucker!
Fucking children is bad sir. very bad.
Is that a copy of grand theft auto in your playstation... JESUS CHRIST MAN! You are SATAN!
Fuck'n A! I hope we'll see a Kiddy Porn on demand channel!
ok seriously...
How do they plan to make a database? A database of what? byte values and image names? are they going to MD5 the files?
Hotchick.jpg could be anything...
usually a guy bent over pulling apart his own gaping asshole...
I shouldnt post so late.
Very sorry about my non paragraphical style. It happens when i post in plain text... i could never figure out how to get that to work without posting in html.
:) And i ran newsbin pro under wine.
You do make some good points about WM. Windows could certainly borrow some things from it. I've always liked virtual desktops and windows always fell short of really providing it as well as Nix did. There are some solutions though.
I have no doubt in my mind that Linux is the network os, I'm running firefox, thunderbird and Gaim on windows. All OSS apps that i could easily run on linux. But linux does fall short in the media playing catagory and of course games and just about everything else.
I'm not saying its not ready to take on the role of being an OS for those things (Although i do think there is a lot of refinement needed) I'm sayings its not ready because it doesnt offer enough software wise. There is no way in hell people are going to dump Office for Open Office unless they absolutely have to. There is no way that people will just install linux on their pc when all of the games are on Windows. People who like to make flash animations wont be moving to linux...
If surfing the net is the only use of the PC, then sure linux has you covered but when you start to branch out... you hit walls. I remember i hated running Evolution and Pan... Thunderbird was a godsend
The graphics stuff i think will get to linux sooner than later actually. It's already happening but its not happening on a large scale yet and the sales just arent there unfortunately when compared to the Windows versions.
These DRM issues are only going to make it harder for people to consider migrating to linux if they cant play their stuff in linux.
Good to know. I see its in their downloads section... pretty cool.
;)
It's a start...
"I don't even install the flash player on Windows..."
:)
You are not like most people and for some reason i dont think you're a person we have to worry about reguarding the issue at hand.
"What is important though is now when I buy my next computer I will be able to get her to agree to have linux as the only OS on the computer and she is now in a possition to understand why it is better."
:)
:) I'd run linux beleive me... I just wish it was ready.
...
The problem is Linux is not better. Its far from better. It doesnt have what windows has, which is the same software, or equal/better software.
Linux is not for everyone and it wont be by the time Vista is on sale.
Will Linux have full HD DVD resolution support like Vista?
Linux just is not ready, or i would be using it!
I need a range of apps most are windows based, some do have linux ports such as Softimage XSI, Alias Maya, Houdini, Renderman...
Linux is a great start, but its not for grandma or grandpa. It's difficult, its odd, its complicated, and lacks refinement in many ways.
Is there a Skype for linux?
Word? (Open Office is a let down)
The reason i ask about skype is because people arent going to easily jump to linux without knowing that their app is already there.
I'm sure there are other VOIP like software for linux but i dont know them, so why would i even think of leaving windows? Its far easier to change OS when you can reasonably expect something out of it.
Right now you can not expect 96% of your windows apps to be there...
You cant break an addict like that
Linux is not ready... if it was, i would be using. I ran BBS back in the day with DESQVIEW and QEMM, Norton Commander, Teleguard bbs software, Renegade, PCboard, wildcat, you name it... i'm a computer user...
I could run Linux if i wanted, but its not for me yet. Heck i run GAiM on windows
It's not ready enough for this war. Yet.
Linux is playing catchup in many areas... but its so far behind in the application area.
Figure this... Linux has Firefox, Thunderbird, GAiM all apps I and many others run on windows now. Thats not bad. Thats a great start for the OSS world.
However... Those are networking programs... and we all know Linux excells at this area.
Its everything else that Linux fails at. It's not ready. Until the Adobe's of the world come knocking...
Look at the windows manager UI in linux... MS is going full 3d accelerated. I know linux has a project to do a similar thing but its far from ready. Vista and MacOS will use this approach to UI... Linux... who i thought is the hackers dream OS, would have done this FIRST....
So do we have to wait now, while linux catches up to VISTA ? How about Flash support?
Linux has so much to catchup on. IF you're a computer user you need to be productive with your computer. Linux excells in some fields but as a general use desktop os for a wide range of applications, it fails miserably.
I dont want to use Windows. I would rather use MacOS... but i would also rather use an OSS alternative to both.... its a shame none exists
YET.
We'll do without their hardware?
:)
How?
It is every corporations interest to secure their media/hardware/product.
They do not care about what you want.
I mean i agree that yeah in a perfect world we all just say "NO" to Vista and microsoft says "oh dam.. shit.. no one is buying vista!.. NOT 1 dam copy sold!"
But thats not going to happen. It will never happen.
Microsoft, and all of the other corporations are all on the same page and will deliver similar protection schemes. NONE of them have an interest in liberating their product just because the other guy is securing it.
I guess our only hope is for the smaller asian tech companies to release products that do not contain those restricting features.
The problem is.. do you think our government will allow them into the country?
We'll all be ebaying our hardware
The forces are far to great. We have no real choice in the matter. WE the few that care, hopefully can ebay hardware that only us geeks have heard of... and the rest of the country will be stuck with DRM.
Its really our only i hope i guess.. that and the hackers out there becasue there is no alternative to Vista or Mac OS. Please dont say linux.. its not ready for prime time.
We shall see. Society just doesnt change like that.
"corporations are merely a mechanism for a group of people to do something efficiently in a capitalist system."
Name one fucking efficient corporation that you've ever known?
Maybe the old FORD, the old GM, the old days of corporations...
Today the only efficiency in a corporation is how to max profits while doing long term damage to the company and the people of the world.
Hang them All!