"All it did was demonstrate that Wikipedia is capable of defending itself from obvious vandalism."... when its broadcast on nation wide on a highly popular tv show:)
I'm not convinced this is as easy as they claim...
How does the new virtual human data, respond to lighting adjustments? Can you alter the lighting? Add key lights? Add fill lights? Move them around etc?
How about the simulation of the properties of materials? The human skin is quite difficult to get looking real, and it doesnt look like this process would be able to simulate any of teh real properties of skin and how it reacts to lighting. How about the metalic surfaces in buttons or jewelry? How about shadows being cast from the hair, clothing, or limbs?
It looks like its locked into its default lighting that it was originally filmed in.
I'm talking about 64bit power macs. I could careless about any 32bit computer these days... I hate having to use xp32bit for some apps. I hate that Microsoft is going to release a vista 32bit. The work i do, requires more than the 4gig limit.
I'd buy a mac in a heartbeat. I would still have to use a windows PC though for some software i use.
The truth is, Windows sucks. Its a peice of shit. Windows 32bit... should be dead. We should all be running 64bit windows, Not VISTA 32bit.
Microsoft is going to continue the 32bit mistake, with vista.
Microsoft has no balls when it comes to progress. They dont take risks. They worry about everyone running dos applications from 89. It's time they stop caring about 32bit, 16bit app support and cut the cord. Go all 64bit Vista, force the stupid hardware manufacturers to deliver 64bit drivers, and not 32bit drivers.
I'm tired of Microsoft. I really am. There is no innovation. They take forever to release an operating system, and its never anything new. Vista will have a new ui... and will require me to buy a new pc... yay. I hope it offers more than that...
Linux isnt ready...
The MAC is.
I've been saying this for a while, due to the success of IPOD... people have a perception of quality when it comes to Apple produc ts. They will pay more for it because they understand that it works better, and their IPOD was so dam cool.
Apple has balls, they really do innovate... Microsoft will do just fine with Vista, but many people will go Mac. I'll join them someday as well. I can not stand Microsoft products. Just look at Their media player attempt. Its garbage. Its version 11 and they dont have a good media player. Sure its trying to copy Itunes (quite poorly) but its a horrible video player. It has terrible playback controls and functions. Its a toy. Media Player Classic beat it years ago, as did winamp, and quicktime (on the mac) quicktime pc sucks). The dam media player is version 11. Version 1-10 sucked... 10 dam versions... and now 11... ? IT still sucks.
Microsoft does not make software will everyone in mind. They dont care what people need from their software... they design it, how they feel you should use it. Maybe thats why it takes them so long to code an os. They dont listen to the people yelling at the door... they ignore them and make whatever they want, and whatever the MPAA/RIAA want them to do.:)
Its apparent that Jobs was always correct about Microsoft. They steal ideas after they're safe to do, and they always do it poorly.
That is more true than ever, the evidence is 98, 98SE, Mill, 2000, XP, Vista, Media Player 11, IE etc. They are late to the party because they cant do it right... and it takes them forever to even get close.
I've had enough of this crap.
The fact that vista is 32bit is the last straw. Microsoft cant progress us into the future because they're a lame duck. They're holding back 64bit because the average user can get away with 32bit and 4gigs ram max, and a cripple ware os.
1 parts - Living Wage that provides a quality life, and covers all medical needs. 2 parts - Lower Prices for software 3 parts - Lower Prices for music 4 parts - Lower Prices for movies
Put them all together in a bowl, mix them up gently.
I'll gladly take that SGI indigo footrest:) I used to love those things... I'd gladly own an O2, Indigo, indigo2, onyx, origin etc just for old time sakes and geeky memories.
SGI, those were the days. Its said to see them have so much trouble over the years.
Thats right... who needs them to walk!? Roll over from their back to their knees, with a soft squishy exterior, big breasts and 3 moist input holes is all we need.
Walking? ok maybe to the kitchen to get me a beer.
I dont think its our lack of ability to multi task. Our eyes can only focus on 1 point at any time.
The problem is when we're driving were in motion, surrounded by other vehicles. It's not that we cant drive and do something at the same time, its the problem of reacting to all of the other environmental hazzards while driving, while doing something...
A fighter pilot with a HUD can do plenty at once and has plenty of other displays within the cockpit to distract him. Luckily for pilots there isnt as much traffic in the air. So they can fly a little bit and not worry about some other guy hitting them.
And if another plane is in the airspace, an early warning will sound.
So multitasking isnt the problem.... The problem is being in an ever changing environment that is not predictable. For example if i use a few programs at once... I unzip a file, then go to read my email while another program loads.... I kind of know what i'm doing and what to expect.
When going at 70 mph you can not expect much. You have to bee aware of the ever changing environment that moves rapidily, usually faster than you realize.
I've looked to change lanes, only to look back at the car in front of me that is rapidly decreasing in distance because he slammed on his breaks for some reason.
Thats really in an instant of time pretty much. Its quite hard to multitask in that environment but i think in general we can multi task. Multitasking is stressful anyways. I want to slow down:)
while what you say is true... (i work in the game industry)
Yes developers keep making the same games over and over because they're affraid to create new ideas.
Risk... Are they affraid to take risks? Yes and no. Game developement has plenty of risk. Do you try to invent something new or bet on something with previous success. Its something the movie industry has been battling for years.
Look at the Wiensteins. They have produced and brought many movies to markets over the years. They generally are known for standing by their product. Sure some of their movies will bomb... some of them wont find a mass appeal audience... But generally they make good films that find their audience.
Do they care about making great films? Absolutely. They Bob and Harvey are die hard film fans. They love what they do. Do they have a responsibility to investors... absolutely. The Weinsteins have figured out how to be credible film makers because they bring new ideas, they welcome new ideas, they allow them to develope, they take risks, they keep their eyes open to the new talent around the industry and outside the industry (independent filmmakers)
They're bringing out a film about crossword puzzles... Not exactly your big budget summer film with explosions and "X" branded hot actor of the month... and Beyonce Knoles..
hehe
The game industry needs Bob and Harvey Weinstein. People that will listen to someone willing to step up to the plate and say "I have the next great idea, please hear me out"
It used to be that we made games in our garage... we didnt really need the suits like we do now. Actually we really dont need the suits.
Developement costs are quite high, and oddly enough the artists making the games dont get much of it, nor do they get any profit sharing or any real stake in the game. Thanks to the suits.
Games still make plenty of money...
But as a game/film artist i dont make what i would call a fair share. Nor do i get to be very creative...
I have some friends who are doing their own thing... the old "garage" game... of cousre on a much larger scale and its a very antcipiated game...
It still is possible to do it... and they have plenty of interest from the industry suits who want to swoop in and rape it, take the profits etc.
Thats the industry we're in.
The buisness side is holding it all back. The money pigs want a sure thing (understandable) but they're not willing to risk anything when it comes to new ideas, and a chance for greatness.
Let me tell you...:)
Before Tony Hawk Pro skater was ever a reality... I wanted to do the idea and was told by a publisher that it would never sell...
Now its ok to make games like the SIMS... as long as its exactly like the SIMS but better.
You cant make a new idea like the SIMS was.... But you can make one thats just like the SIMS... but it has to be "better" because well.. why invest in makgin the sims when its already a game... And here we see the problem reveal itself within the dumb industries logic. It has to be better.. cause we cant make the game thats already out...
of cousre they almost always end up making the game thats already out.
FPS shooters are the same... I could make them far more interesting and better.... But whos gonna pay me the money to direct it?
There are so many ideas... but far too many suits stand in the way of ever giving them a chance.
You have to be a self made person for them to listen to you. But its quite difficult to be self made when game developement is a 24 hour job, and if you go it alone... you have no funds. It costs too much.
So is developement broken? yes. Games are made by people who like ot have fun. The second game developement no longer becomes fun and inventive.... creative... it's broken. And that is where we are.
I'm still running an a64 3500 and i like it enough that i dont need to go higher just yet. Although i would like to upgrade.
I'm also still running a dual 2000+ amd system... and a p 1.6ghz pc... and i have a laptop thats a p4 3ghz
Really, the dual 2000+ does most stuff fine.
The only real reason to upgrade is for games or software reasons. Right now there just arent any games for the pc that are worth buying or upgrading for.
It's not that i think people just change music... Its that i think if people listen to themselves, they can find a lot of great things in other places.
And i think as we grow up we experience those things... and figure out what we like and dont. I'm not saying we stop liking rap. I didnt... I'm just saying we become more rounded and cultured.
Kids wont like rap much longer... they're not going to be into what their parents are:)
Ah, the embarrasing moment of being picked up after school (with your friends) by your mother with the new Eminem Album blasting.:)
Beleive me i get GTA:) I love the concept... The problem is that it hasnt evolved enough, and they started to just rely on marketing.
GTA:SA is the best GTA game that i've never played. Its the same as GTA3 with better environments, some cut scenes, and some small added gameplay features...
But it hasnt evolved enough for me to buy it. My friends own it, and play it. We laugh as we try to do ridiculous things with the limited gameplay in it...
It definatly is a cartoon, and i think its intended as such but its not quite marketed that way. Its like saying "you and i know the joke... but the other guy doesnt"
They're banking on the fans, and that other guy... the other guy being the guy who remains from the "ghetto" is cool days...
Look at Mark Echo's graffiti game.. people like it, some say its garbage. He's a very nice guy in real life actually... but the game is aimed at an obvious ghetto wannabe audience... and it really offers nothing in terms of gameplay... and people still play it.
Oh i didnt mean to say i did not enjoy GTA: SA. I'm saying that I had no interest in GTA SA. I enjoyed GTA 3 a lot. I didnt care for any of the sequencial rehashes... and as i saw them become more and more "ghetto" to meet the growing market of similar games that have failed... i quickly lost all interest in GTA:SA
I personally think GTA:SA is the best GTA made... It overs so much more than any of the others and i did not say it was a bad game. I just said i had no interest in it...
By mocking it... I meant that i sit and watch my friends enjoy the game.. We laugh, have fun, we make fun of the cartoon of it all. Beleive me i want a game where you kidnap a retard bus and hold them hostage while fucking farm animals to john denver tunes:) Its not that i dont have a sense of humor:) Its a fun game and we have fun with it... I just dont play it. I find the concept tired and its not offered much in terms of new ideas.
I still think GTA:SA is the best GTA made... I just have no interest to play it. I watch my friends play... but that is all.
exactly. If i cant bring Street Fighter 3 Third strike to a friends house to battle for hours... then whats the dam point of owning a video game system?
Games are for fun, they can bring friends together, create memories and good times...
If sony wants to take that away from games... so be it. I'm not dragging the console and the game over to a friends house just to play it.
When will sony create a technology that prevents me from borrowing my friends game controller... and forcing me to buy another just so he can play, rather than bring his over...
When will they force me to have a SONY ONLY television...
Fuck Sony. Sony has to be aware of the growing hatred for its entire brand.... they have to be... dont they?
Just to reply...
I'm modded as a troll when i speak the truth? I get 3 replies that proof i'm correct, and i'm modded a troll.
The truth hurts. Beleive me i know it does...
I was not trolling. I'm trying to make a point, and the replies have made my point even more clearer. Linux is not ready... I would like it to be, but it is not ready for all yet.
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"All it did was demonstrate that Wikipedia is capable of defending itself from obvious vandalism." ... when its broadcast on nation wide on a highly popular tv show :)
Stephen Colbert, John Stewart, and the whole Daily Show team are the bestest. Let Stephen play Wiki... Let Stephen Play!
Take out the drm, and wga shit and people will.
If pretty is all your selling microsoft... Theres a much better alternative.
I'm not convinced this is as easy as they claim...
How does the new virtual human data, respond to lighting adjustments? Can you alter the lighting? Add key lights? Add fill lights? Move them around etc?
How about the simulation of the properties of materials? The human skin is quite difficult to get looking real, and it doesnt look like this process would be able to simulate any of teh real properties of skin and how it reacts to lighting. How about the metalic surfaces in buttons or jewelry? How about shadows being cast from the hair, clothing, or limbs?
It looks like its locked into its default lighting that it was originally filmed in.
Do i know you? .. holy crap...
Stop describing me.
I'm talking about 64bit power macs. I could careless about any 32bit computer these days... I hate having to use xp32bit for some apps. I hate that Microsoft is going to release a vista 32bit. The work i do, requires more than the 4gig limit.
:)
:) 64bit or bust.
32bit is a toy!!!!!
It's 2006!
I'd buy a mac in a heartbeat. I would still have to use a windows PC though for some software i use.
:)
The truth is, Windows sucks. Its a peice of shit. Windows 32bit... should be dead. We should all be running 64bit windows, Not VISTA 32bit.
Microsoft is going to continue the 32bit mistake, with vista.
Microsoft has no balls when it comes to progress. They dont take risks. They worry about everyone running dos applications from 89. It's time they stop caring about 32bit, 16bit app support and cut the cord. Go all 64bit Vista, force the stupid hardware manufacturers to deliver 64bit drivers, and not 32bit drivers.
I'm tired of Microsoft. I really am. There is no innovation. They take forever to release an operating system, and its never anything new. Vista will have a new ui... and will require me to buy a new pc... yay. I hope it offers more than that...
Linux isnt ready...
The MAC is.
I've been saying this for a while, due to the success of IPOD... people have a perception of quality when it comes to Apple produc ts. They will pay more for it because they understand that it works better, and their IPOD was so dam cool.
Apple has balls, they really do innovate... Microsoft will do just fine with Vista, but many people will go Mac. I'll join them someday as well. I can not stand Microsoft products. Just look at Their media player attempt. Its garbage. Its version 11 and they dont have a good media player. Sure its trying to copy Itunes (quite poorly) but its a horrible video player. It has terrible playback controls and functions. Its a toy. Media Player Classic beat it years ago, as did winamp, and quicktime (on the mac) quicktime pc sucks). The dam media player is version 11. Version 1-10 sucked... 10 dam versions... and now 11... ? IT still sucks.
Microsoft does not make software will everyone in mind. They dont care what people need from their software... they design it, how they feel you should use it. Maybe thats why it takes them so long to code an os. They dont listen to the people yelling at the door... they ignore them and make whatever they want, and whatever the MPAA/RIAA want them to do.
Its apparent that Jobs was always correct about Microsoft. They steal ideas after they're safe to do, and they always do it poorly.
That is more true than ever, the evidence is 98, 98SE, Mill, 2000, XP, Vista, Media Player 11, IE etc. They are late to the party because they cant do it right... and it takes them forever to even get close.
I've had enough of this crap.
The fact that vista is 32bit is the last straw. Microsoft cant progress us into the future because they're a lame duck. They're holding back 64bit because the average user can get away with 32bit and 4gigs ram max, and a cripple ware os.
Isreal are terrorists.
Isreal has a right to exist, the but to what extent should they be allowed to destroy Lebonon?
I think they've overstepped their bounds already. Consider the sensitive nature of that region of the world....
Isreal will appear as terrorists when they throw their power around as they are.
Isreal is certainly a victom of terrorism... that we all know, but that does not give them immunity, and the right to slaughter innocent people.
A simple formula.
1 parts - Living Wage that provides a quality life, and covers all medical needs.
2 parts - Lower Prices for software
3 parts - Lower Prices for music
4 parts - Lower Prices for movies
Put them all together in a bowl, mix them up gently.
A few years ago, Nvidia hired SGI's engineers in a deal to help save the SGI graphics card division the last time SGI was broke.
:)
Since then Nvidia has changed the world.
SGI could have been the ones to do it, but they didnt want to come down from their $100,000 price tags.
Nvidia is sitting pretty these days... SGI is dead.
I'll gladly take that SGI indigo footrest :) I used to love those things... I'd gladly own an O2, Indigo, indigo2, onyx, origin etc just for old time sakes and geeky memories.
SGI, those were the days. Its said to see them have so much trouble over the years.
Thats right... who needs them to walk!? Roll over from their back to their knees, with a soft squishy exterior, big breasts and 3 moist input holes is all we need.
Walking? ok maybe to the kitchen to get me a beer.
"Imagine a Beowulf cluster^H^H^H^H^H^H^H platoon of them!" ... All running Duke Nukem Forever, chanting "In soviet Russia, Robot runs Linux on you!"
true.... But i come from a racing and flying family hehe i guess i look at piloting/driving differently
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwh.. Forget that shit!
In other news: World Blames Macafee for their bad software.
I dont think its our lack of ability to multi task. Our eyes can only focus on 1 point at any time.
:)
The problem is when we're driving were in motion, surrounded by other vehicles. It's not that we cant drive and do something at the same time, its the problem of reacting to all of the other environmental hazzards while driving, while doing something...
A fighter pilot with a HUD can do plenty at once and has plenty of other displays within the cockpit to distract him. Luckily for pilots there isnt as much traffic in the air. So they can fly a little bit and not worry about some other guy hitting them.
And if another plane is in the airspace, an early warning will sound.
So multitasking isnt the problem.... The problem is being in an ever changing environment that is not predictable. For example if i use a few programs at once... I unzip a file, then go to read my email while another program loads.... I kind of know what i'm doing and what to expect.
When going at 70 mph you can not expect much. You have to bee aware of the ever changing environment that moves rapidily, usually faster than you realize.
I've looked to change lanes, only to look back at the car in front of me that is rapidly decreasing in distance because he slammed on his breaks for some reason.
Thats really in an instant of time pretty much. Its quite hard to multitask in that environment but i think in general we can multi task. Multitasking is stressful anyways. I want to slow down
while what you say is true... (i work in the game industry)
:)
Yes developers keep making the same games over and over because they're affraid to create new ideas.
Risk... Are they affraid to take risks? Yes and no. Game developement has plenty of risk. Do you try to invent something new or bet on something with previous success. Its something the movie industry has been battling for years.
Look at the Wiensteins. They have produced and brought many movies to markets over the years. They generally are known for standing by their product. Sure some of their movies will bomb... some of them wont find a mass appeal audience... But generally they make good films that find their audience.
Do they care about making great films? Absolutely. They Bob and Harvey are die hard film fans. They love what they do. Do they have a responsibility to investors... absolutely. The Weinsteins have figured out how to be credible film makers because they bring new ideas, they welcome new ideas, they allow them to develope, they take risks, they keep their eyes open to the new talent around the industry and outside the industry (independent filmmakers)
They're bringing out a film about crossword puzzles... Not exactly your big budget summer film with explosions and "X" branded hot actor of the month... and Beyonce Knoles..
hehe
The game industry needs Bob and Harvey Weinstein. People that will listen to someone willing to step up to the plate and say "I have the next great idea, please hear me out"
It used to be that we made games in our garage... we didnt really need the suits like we do now. Actually we really dont need the suits.
Developement costs are quite high, and oddly enough the artists making the games dont get much of it, nor do they get any profit sharing or any real stake in the game. Thanks to the suits.
Games still make plenty of money...
But as a game/film artist i dont make what i would call a fair share. Nor do i get to be very creative...
I have some friends who are doing their own thing... the old "garage" game... of cousre on a much larger scale and its a very antcipiated game...
It still is possible to do it... and they have plenty of interest from the industry suits who want to swoop in and rape it, take the profits etc.
Thats the industry we're in.
The buisness side is holding it all back. The money pigs want a sure thing (understandable) but they're not willing to risk anything when it comes to new ideas, and a chance for greatness.
Let me tell you...
Before Tony Hawk Pro skater was ever a reality... I wanted to do the idea and was told by a publisher that it would never sell...
Now its ok to make games like the SIMS... as long as its exactly like the SIMS but better.
You cant make a new idea like the SIMS was.... But you can make one thats just like the SIMS... but it has to be "better" because well.. why invest in makgin the sims when its already a game... And here we see the problem reveal itself within the dumb industries logic. It has to be better.. cause we cant make the game thats already out...
of cousre they almost always end up making the game thats already out.
FPS shooters are the same... I could make them far more interesting and better.... But whos gonna pay me the money to direct it?
There are so many ideas... but far too many suits stand in the way of ever giving them a chance.
You have to be a self made person for them to listen to you. But its quite difficult to be self made when game developement is a 24 hour job, and if you go it alone... you have no funds. It costs too much.
So is developement broken? yes. Games are made by people who like ot have fun. The second game developement no longer becomes fun and inventive.... creative... it's broken. And that is where we are.
I'm still running an a64 3500 and i like it enough that i dont need to go higher just yet. Although i would like to upgrade.
I'm also still running a dual 2000+ amd system... and a p 1.6ghz pc... and i have a laptop thats a p4 3ghz
Really, the dual 2000+ does most stuff fine.
The only real reason to upgrade is for games or software reasons. Right now there just arent any games for the pc that are worth buying or upgrading for.
It's not that i think people just change music... Its that i think if people listen to themselves, they can find a lot of great things in other places.
:)
:)
And i think as we grow up we experience those things... and figure out what we like and dont. I'm not saying we stop liking rap. I didnt... I'm just saying we become more rounded and cultured.
Kids wont like rap much longer... they're not going to be into what their parents are
Ah, the embarrasing moment of being picked up after school (with your friends) by your mother with the new Eminem Album blasting.
Beleive me i get GTA :) I love the concept... The problem is that it hasnt evolved enough, and they started to just rely on marketing.
GTA:SA is the best GTA game that i've never played. Its the same as GTA3 with better environments, some cut scenes, and some small added gameplay features...
But it hasnt evolved enough for me to buy it. My friends own it, and play it. We laugh as we try to do ridiculous things with the limited gameplay in it...
It definatly is a cartoon, and i think its intended as such but its not quite marketed that way. Its like saying "you and i know the joke... but the other guy doesnt"
They're banking on the fans, and that other guy... the other guy being the guy who remains from the "ghetto" is cool days...
Look at Mark Echo's graffiti game.. people like it, some say its garbage. He's a very nice guy in real life actually... but the game is aimed at an obvious ghetto wannabe audience... and it really offers nothing in terms of gameplay... and people still play it.
Oh i didnt mean to say i did not enjoy GTA: SA. I'm saying that I had no interest in GTA SA. I enjoyed GTA 3 a lot. I didnt care for any of the sequencial rehashes... and as i saw them become more and more "ghetto" to meet the growing market of similar games that have failed... i quickly lost all interest in GTA :SA
:) Its not that i dont have a sense of humor :) Its a fun game and we have fun with it... I just dont play it. I find the concept tired and its not offered much in terms of new ideas.
I personally think GTA:SA is the best GTA made... It overs so much more than any of the others and i did not say it was a bad game. I just said i had no interest in it...
By mocking it... I meant that i sit and watch my friends enjoy the game.. We laugh, have fun, we make fun of the cartoon of it all. Beleive me i want a game where you kidnap a retard bus and hold them hostage while fucking farm animals to john denver tunes
I still think GTA:SA is the best GTA made... I just have no interest to play it. I watch my friends play... but that is all.
"It also means you'd have to re-buy your game collection every time your console died."
;)
Aww.. GEE what a whiner... Suck it up and rebuy all your games! Awww.. you're system broke...
Dont act like your money matters, it belongs to sony.
exactly. If i cant bring Street Fighter 3 Third strike to a friends house to battle for hours... then whats the dam point of owning a video game system?
Games are for fun, they can bring friends together, create memories and good times...
If sony wants to take that away from games... so be it. I'm not dragging the console and the game over to a friends house just to play it.
When will sony create a technology that prevents me from borrowing my friends game controller... and forcing me to buy another just so he can play, rather than bring his over...
When will they force me to have a SONY ONLY television...
Fuck Sony. Sony has to be aware of the growing hatred for its entire brand.... they have to be... dont they?
Just to reply... I'm modded as a troll when i speak the truth? I get 3 replies that proof i'm correct, and i'm modded a troll. The truth hurts. Beleive me i know it does... I was not trolling. I'm trying to make a point, and the replies have made my point even more clearer. Linux is not ready... I would like it to be, but it is not ready for all yet.