>It's still a publicly traded company, it's just not listed on the NYSE during bankruptcy.
You aren't thinking of MTLQQ.PK, are you? Because that isn't "GM". That's the ugly little pieces of the old GM that were left behind in the bankruptcy process. The collection of "good" parts of the old GM (such as the company that is selling the Camaro) is not currently a publicly traded company.
One of these days in the not-so-distant future, the price of MTLQQ.PK is going to go to zero.
>But after they wash the clothes they just hang them up to dry. That's what I do at home, not even on an outdoor clothesline, but just on a drying rack in my apartment.
Hanging up a load of damp laundry in a "tight" house in the middle of winter would result in window sweating as well as mold. Adding a lot of indoor moisture in the winter here in the snowbelt is not a good idea.
I agree that more people should hang laundry outside when the weather is appropriate. I have a small clotheslines in my backyard even though it is expressly forbidden in the subdivision bylaws. The only people who can see my little clothesline are my immediate neighbors. You can't see my laundry from the street. With the growing focus on saving energy, I don't know why the "no clotheslines!" edict couldn't be repealed in my subdivision. As long as you keep your undies in the back yard and I can see 'em from the street, go ahead and hang things outside.
>That said, nothing would probably happen for the three to four hours mentioned in the other posts, but I wouldn't let it sit more than that, especially on a hot day.
If there is a long delay ( > 4 hours) between when you wash your clothes and when you dry them, doesn't that imply that you are running your washing machine during "peak time"? Why are you running your washing machine during "peak time"?
I'm not sure if this is still the case, but several years ago Detroit Edison installed shut-off boxes on A/C units in southeastern Michigan and possibly elsewhere. There were several instances where our air conditioning was turned off by the company during the day.
I have one of those shut-off boxes on my AC system by my choise. The utility (We Energies) can turn off the AC compressor when electrical demand is very high. My furnace fan, ceiling fans and dehumidifer will continue to run when the AC compressor is remotely disabled. I don't remember the length of the outage but I know I signed up for the "worst" plan (the plan that comes with the longest outage). In return for installing this box, I get $50 off my electric bill every summer - whether We Energies activates the box or not! It's a pretty sweet deal for me. If the temps are so high outside that I am worried about We Energies turning off my AC compressor (my furnace fan will still run to circulate air in the house), then I will have all of the windows closed and all of the blinds down. My house stays medium cool during the day even when the AC does not run. I'm not home during the day so I wouldn't know if the utility disabled my compressor or not. The plan only allows the AC compressor to be cut-off during the day. At night, the compressor will run to cool the house down.
>I have a large family, and we run our dishwasher 4-5 times a day, so scratch that one too.:)
If your family is so large that you have to run your dishwasher four to five times a day, you should pay some sort of "conspicuous consumption" tax for having so many children. This reminds me of a Motifake that I saw that had a picture of 20-some person Duggar family and said "Your vagina: It's not a clown car." Families that have so many kids that they have to run the dishwasher and washer/dryer nonstop during the day should be penalized for consuming so much energy. Think globally - act locally.
> You'd likely think different if you ever had to smell an entire load of clothing that smelled like an old wet dish rag.
I too am puzzled by this "OMG, my wet clothes are producing penicillin as we speak!" FUD. I am on a time-of-use plan that provides cheaper electricity between 7pm and 7am weekdays and all-day on weekends. I run my washing machine and dryer after 7pm. My washer even has a timer on it so I can delay the start time. If I knew I was going to be away from the house at 7pm, I could load the washer at 5pm and set the timer for a two-hour delay. The washer would start at 7pm (burning the cheap electrons) and when I get home later than night, I would pop the clothes into the dryer (also burning the cheap electrons). What is so hard about doing laundry only between 7pm and 7am? Or only doing laundry on the weekends? I am puzzled by the whole "the moldbeast will consume your wet skivvies!"
For what it's worth, my AC is on an intelligent thermostat that is set to cool at 84 degrees (the house never gets that warm) during the day. The AC will not run between 7am and 7pm on weekdays. Is the house a few degrees warmer than I would like when I get home at 5:30pm? Yes, on some days but I deal with it. Sometimes I run errands after work or go to the gym because I know the house is not going to cool down until 7pm.
The utility sends me a report every six months that shows how much money I have saved by using the time-of-use plan. I am always wayyy ahead moneywise by running the heavy electricity consuming appliances during the cheap hours.
Stop calling someone straight and gay. You're a person who just happens to be attracted to people of your own gender, the oppositye gender, both or neither. It is the year 2009 and by now one would expect people to be a little bit wiser, especially on places like/..
You must be new here. You mentioned/. as a place where you have higher expectations for individual behavior. The same/. where violent flame wars break out over the type of OS (Windows vs. Linux) a person uses on his/her computer or even the logo (Apple vs non-Apple) on the that person's computer./. is anything *but* the tolerant nirvana that you are seeking. If you are looking for "Tolerance and Understanding", you got off the elevator on the wrong floor. There are a lot of people with very strong opinions on/. and they are not afraid to speak their mind. This is not a safe place for people with thin skin.
>My father-in-law complained that the "computer was no damn good" at finding directions Finally I got him to admit the real problem: "well that route takes me past these weigh scales here." He needed a goat-trail route so he could take a crappy overloaded truck full of junk across the state with less chance of running into the commercial vehicle inspectors! I was not impressed.
One easy solution would have been to ask Bo and Luke to take the General Lee in the opposite direction at high speed to distract Rosco P.Coltrane while your father-in-law delivers his "junk". Look on the bright side: you are married to Daisy Duke.
> In my experience, anti-depressants make you feel nothing, neither positive nor negative emotions.
It could be that you did not try the right ones. There are certain anti-depressants that have a profound positive effect on my mood. The people that I work with can tell I am much happier and more easy to get along with when I am "on the meds". I agree with what you said regarding "feeling nothing." Anti-depressants seem to give me "thicker skin" and make it less likely for me to be affected by the crazy stuff that goes on at work. Sometimes, a little "patience in a pill" is not a bad thing.
Let me guess... you're the firewall Nazi at your company.
Let me guess...you didn't even read the message that I posted.
"Check with your company's firewall nazi (that's one of the hats I wear during the day)."
('firewall nazi' is a title given by one of the corporate counsel at a place I used to work when our email scanning appliance blocked a non-work-related.exe attachment from getting to that particular lawyer's inbox.)
the Windows 7 ISO weighs in at 2.3GB, which would take several hours to download on an average broadband connection and potentially do serious damage to a customer's broadband data cap.
There is an easy solution to this problem: if you don't have a decent connection at home, download the ISO at work. Check with your company's firewall nazi (that's one of the hats I wear during the day). See if he/she objects to you downloading that ISO or if company policy prohibits this type of download. If you ask nicely, the firewall nazi will probably find a way to download that ISO image rather quickly and you won't have to worry about burning up your bandwidth cap at home or waiting five days for the download at home to finish. If you mention something like, "Hey, I heard you like Five Guys. Can I buy you a burger and fries sometime?" as you hand the USB drive to the fw nazi, he/she will be much more receptive to your request. It's all in how you ask. Am I going to download a copy of the latest Star Trek movie for you (even if some free F.G. is on the line)? *No.* Would I download an ISO from Microsoft for you if you ask in a pleasant tone? Probably. Also, the chances are good that I have already downloaded that ISO for my own testing or someone who sits near me at work has a copy of that ISO.
>If the logs aren't there, the subpoena doesn't hurt anything. So I ask what sort of logs does slashdot keep that could conceivably be used to track down an AC? Be imaginative in your answers (e.g. someone could try matching the HTTP access logs against the time the comment was posted(*)). Think like a smart technical cop who really wants to figure this out.
Why even make it that complex? Who's to say that there isn't a field in database row 28360595 that contains the IP address of the system used to post that message? Every post by an AC could have the source IP recorded in case LEOs come knock-knock-knockin on the/. door. (Cue the "But I am using TOR/a web proxy/botnet to hide my identity" or "I am behind a firewall that uses NAT so you'll never catch me!11!1111!!!" replies)
> Of course we didn't have the freeze/thaw cycles people do farther north so I could be talking out of my backside, but these things appeared well-nigh indestructible.
A little road salt in the winter will take care of your "indestructible" concrete...
AC said: >Sorry dude, but you're way off and really reaching. RLS is very uncommon and was never a real problem.
I am going to need to play the [citation needed] card. Please provide some links that backup your statement that "RLS was never really a problem". After being diagnosed, I have found no shortage of information regarding RLS, sleep disorders related to movement and PLMD on the Internet. I have also had quite a few appointments with doctors who are experts in sleep disorders. I don't get the impression that "RLS is very uncommon and was never a problem."
>But of course the notion that your 66/22 instance is "abnormal" is a normative position based on, at best, a statistical model that says you'll be better off in some way if you sleep "like" a majority of others, and an epistemological ethos that values statistical models as "knowledge."
That's not to say that it's an incorrect assumption for you, but merely to point out that the "nonnormal" evaluation of such a state is a socially constructed matter, not an objective matter.
LOL...wut? We are talking about *sleep* here, Mister Time Cube. The sleep study showed that I woke up twenty-two times in one hour in the middle of the night when I was "asleep". How many times do you wake up in the middle of the night in a given sixty minute period? Once to the go the bathroom, maybe twice to roll over or find a more comfy position. Certainly not twenty-two times in one hour.
Certainly if you start calling people dickwads for challenging socially constructed assumptions and definitions, you deserve to be seen as at least a little bit ideologically unreflective.
I called Causality a dickwad because he labelled a legitimate medical condition a "designer disease." Go back and re-read his message and then mine.
Slashdot Mirror
>have you heard about Mexican flue?
Mexican flue? Isn't that the part of the chiminea where the smoke comes out?
>It's still a publicly traded company, it's just not listed on the NYSE during bankruptcy.
You aren't thinking of MTLQQ.PK, are you? Because that isn't "GM". That's the ugly little pieces of the old GM that were left behind in the bankruptcy process. The collection of "good" parts of the old GM (such as the company that is selling the Camaro) is not currently a publicly traded company.
One of these days in the not-so-distant future, the price of MTLQQ.PK is going to go to zero.
>I'd be betting long on GM stock.
There is no such thing as GM stock.
>But after they wash the clothes they just hang them up to dry. That's what I do at home, not even on an outdoor clothesline, but just on a drying rack in my apartment.
Hanging up a load of damp laundry in a "tight" house in the middle of winter would result in window sweating as well as mold. Adding a lot of indoor moisture in the winter here in the snowbelt is not a good idea.
I agree that more people should hang laundry outside when the weather is appropriate. I have a small clotheslines in my backyard even though it is expressly forbidden in the subdivision bylaws. The only people who can see my little clothesline are my immediate neighbors. You can't see my laundry from the street. With the growing focus on saving energy, I don't know why the "no clotheslines!" edict couldn't be repealed in my subdivision. As long as you keep your undies in the back yard and I can see 'em from the street, go ahead and hang things outside.
>That said, nothing would probably happen for the three to four hours mentioned in the other posts, but I wouldn't let it sit more than that, especially on a hot day.
If there is a long delay ( > 4 hours) between when you wash your clothes and when you dry them, doesn't that imply that you are running your washing machine during "peak time"? Why are you running your washing machine during "peak time"?
>but the very first damn thing is for power companies to start charging us different amounts for different times
Something like this?
http://www.weenergies.com/residential/acctoptions/tou_wi.htm
I'm not sure if this is still the case, but several years ago Detroit Edison installed shut-off boxes on A/C units in southeastern Michigan and possibly elsewhere. There were several instances where our air conditioning was turned off by the company during the day.
I have one of those shut-off boxes on my AC system by my choise. The utility (We Energies) can turn off the AC compressor when electrical demand is very high. My furnace fan, ceiling fans and dehumidifer will continue to run when the AC compressor is remotely disabled. I don't remember the length of the outage but I know I signed up for the "worst" plan (the plan that comes with the longest outage). In return for installing this box, I get $50 off my electric bill every summer - whether We Energies activates the box or not! It's a pretty sweet deal for me. If the temps are so high outside that I am worried about We Energies turning off my AC compressor (my furnace fan will still run to circulate air in the house), then I will have all of the windows closed and all of the blinds down. My house stays medium cool during the day even when the AC does not run. I'm not home during the day so I wouldn't know if the utility disabled my compressor or not. The plan only allows the AC compressor to be cut-off during the day. At night, the compressor will run to cool the house down.
>I have a large family, and we run our dishwasher 4-5 times a day, so scratch that one too. :)
If your family is so large that you have to run your dishwasher four to five times a day, you should pay some sort of "conspicuous consumption" tax for having so many children. This reminds me of a Motifake that I saw that had a picture of 20-some person Duggar family and said "Your vagina: It's not a clown car." Families that have so many kids that they have to run the dishwasher and washer/dryer nonstop during the day should be penalized for consuming so much energy. Think globally - act locally.
> You'd likely think different if you ever had to smell an entire load of clothing that smelled like an old wet dish rag.
I too am puzzled by this "OMG, my wet clothes are producing penicillin as we speak!" FUD. I am on a time-of-use plan that provides cheaper electricity between 7pm and 7am weekdays and all-day on weekends. I run my washing machine and dryer after 7pm. My washer even has a timer on it so I can delay the start time. If I knew I was going to be away from the house at 7pm, I could load the washer at 5pm and set the timer for a two-hour delay. The washer would start at 7pm (burning the cheap electrons) and when I get home later than night, I would pop the clothes into the dryer (also burning the cheap electrons). What is so hard about doing laundry only between 7pm and 7am? Or only doing laundry on the weekends? I am puzzled by the whole "the moldbeast will consume your wet skivvies!"
For what it's worth, my AC is on an intelligent thermostat that is set to cool at 84 degrees (the house never gets that warm) during the day. The AC will not run between 7am and 7pm on weekdays. Is the house a few degrees warmer than I would like when I get home at 5:30pm? Yes, on some days but I deal with it. Sometimes I run errands after work or go to the gym because I know the house is not going to cool down until 7pm.
The utility sends me a report every six months that shows how much money I have saved by using the time-of-use plan. I am always wayyy ahead moneywise by running the heavy electricity consuming appliances during the cheap hours.
Damn. Slashdot chewed-up the long URL from the Sears website. Let's try again:
www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_12605_Appliances_Washers+%26+Dryers_Dryers?sbf=Brand&sbv=Kenmore#viewItems=40&pageNum=1&sortOption=ORIGINAL_SORT_ORDER&&filter=Power+Source|Gas&lastFilter=Power+Source
> Gas powered dryers? Really? They exist?
Ask and ye shall receive:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/s_10153_12605_Appliances_Washers+%26+Dryers_Dryers?sbf=Brand&sbv=Kenmore#viewItems=40&pageNum=1&sortOption=ORIGINAL_SORT_ORDER&&filter=Power+Source|Gas&lastFilter=Power+Source
Couple one of these with a front-loading washer to save money on your utility bills.
Well said, Artifakt. Well said.
Stop calling someone straight and gay. You're a person who just happens to be attracted to people of your own gender, the oppositye gender, both or neither. It is the year 2009 and by now one would expect people to be a little bit wiser, especially on places like /..
/. as a place where you have higher expectations for individual behavior. The same /. where violent flame wars break out over the type of OS (Windows vs. Linux) a person uses on his/her computer or even the logo (Apple vs non-Apple) on the that person's computer. /. is anything *but* the tolerant nirvana that you are seeking. If you are looking for "Tolerance and Understanding", you got off the elevator on the wrong floor. There are a lot of people with very strong opinions on /. and they are not afraid to speak their mind. This is not a safe place for people with thin skin.
You must be new here. You mentioned
>My father-in-law complained that the "computer was no damn good" at finding directions Finally I got him to admit the real problem: "well that route takes me past these weigh scales here." He needed a goat-trail route so he could take a crappy overloaded truck full of junk across the state with less chance of running into the commercial vehicle inspectors! I was not impressed.
One easy solution would have been to ask Bo and Luke to take the General Lee in the opposite direction at high speed to distract Rosco P.Coltrane while your father-in-law delivers his "junk". Look on the bright side: you are married to Daisy Duke.
> Didn't your friend speak English?
That wouldn't have helped. The OP and his buddy were in Michigan's upper peninsula. The guy who was lost needed an English-to-Yooper dictionary.
> In my experience, anti-depressants make you feel nothing, neither positive nor negative emotions.
It could be that you did not try the right ones. There are certain anti-depressants that have a profound positive effect on my mood. The people that I work with can tell I am much happier and more easy to get along with when I am "on the meds". I agree with what you said regarding "feeling nothing." Anti-depressants seem to give me "thicker skin" and make it less likely for me to be affected by the crazy stuff that goes on at work. Sometimes, a little "patience in a pill" is not a bad thing.
Being a student I still use Wikipedia alot of the time.
Really? We couldn't tell...
Let me guess... you're the firewall Nazi at your company.
.exe attachment from getting to that particular lawyer's inbox.)
Let me guess...you didn't even read the message that I posted.
"Check with your company's firewall nazi (that's one of the hats I wear during the day)."
('firewall nazi' is a title given by one of the corporate counsel at a place I used to work when our email scanning appliance blocked a non-work-related
the Windows 7 ISO weighs in at 2.3GB, which would take several hours to download on an average broadband connection and potentially do serious damage to a customer's broadband data cap.
There is an easy solution to this problem: if you don't have a decent connection at home, download the ISO at work. Check with your company's firewall nazi (that's one of the hats I wear during the day). See if he/she objects to you downloading that ISO or if company policy prohibits this type of download. If you ask nicely, the firewall nazi will probably find a way to download that ISO image rather quickly and you won't have to worry about burning up your bandwidth cap at home or waiting five days for the download at home to finish. If you mention something like, "Hey, I heard you like Five Guys. Can I buy you a burger and fries sometime?" as you hand the USB drive to the fw nazi, he/she will be much more receptive to your request. It's all in how you ask. Am I going to download a copy of the latest Star Trek movie for you (even if some free F.G. is on the line)? *No.* Would I download an ISO from Microsoft for you if you ask in a pleasant tone? Probably. Also, the chances are good that I have already downloaded that ISO for my own testing or someone who sits near me at work has a copy of that ISO.
> Then I had a 97 V6 Camaro
Please accept my most sincere condolences.
>If the logs aren't there, the subpoena doesn't hurt anything. So I ask what sort of logs does slashdot keep that could conceivably be used to track down an AC? Be imaginative in your answers (e.g. someone could try matching the HTTP access logs against the time the comment was posted(*)). Think like a smart technical cop who really wants to figure this out.
/. door. (Cue the "But I am using TOR/a web proxy/botnet to hide my identity" or "I am behind a firewall that uses NAT so you'll never catch me!11!1111!!!" replies)
Why even make it that complex? Who's to say that there isn't a field in database row 28360595 that contains the IP address of the system used to post that message? Every post by an AC could have the source IP recorded in case LEOs come knock-knock-knockin on the
>Yes, we are. If everybody would just go out and buy a goddam new car (from one of the Big 3, of course).
By "Big 3", do you mean Toyota, Honda and Fiat?
> Of course we didn't have the freeze/thaw cycles people do farther north so I could be talking out of my backside, but these things appeared well-nigh indestructible.
A little road salt in the winter will take care of your "indestructible" concrete...
AC said:
>Sorry dude, but you're way off and really reaching. RLS is very uncommon and was never a real problem.
I am going to need to play the [citation needed] card. Please provide some links that backup your statement that "RLS was never really a problem". After being diagnosed, I have found no shortage of information regarding RLS, sleep disorders related to movement and PLMD on the Internet. I have also had quite a few appointments with doctors who are experts in sleep disorders. I don't get the impression that "RLS is very uncommon and was never a problem."
I am looking forward to your reply.
>But of course the notion that your 66/22 instance is "abnormal" is a normative position based on, at best, a statistical model that says you'll be better off in some way if you sleep "like" a majority of others, and an epistemological ethos that values statistical models as "knowledge."
That's not to say that it's an incorrect assumption for you, but merely to point out that the "nonnormal" evaluation of such a state is a socially constructed matter, not an objective matter.
LOL...wut? We are talking about *sleep* here, Mister Time Cube. The sleep study showed that I woke up twenty-two times in one hour in the middle of the night when I was "asleep". How many times do you wake up in the middle of the night in a given sixty minute period? Once to the go the bathroom, maybe twice to roll over or find a more comfy position. Certainly not twenty-two times in one hour.
Certainly if you start calling people dickwads for challenging socially constructed assumptions and definitions, you deserve to be seen as at least a little bit ideologically unreflective.
I called Causality a dickwad because he labelled a legitimate medical condition a "designer disease." Go back and re-read his message and then mine.
Thanks,
-Scott