Well the hardware to setup these systems up is one of the major problems for the price. Most researchers have limited funding. I doubt using WIndows is going to help the price problem at all though.
How can you say C# is better than VB.NET? If you set your compile options correctly they compile the same in most cases. What matters more is the quality of the programmer and you will get better code. If I could get a good VB.NET programmer I would take him over 4 bad C# programmers and vice versa. The languages are basically the same.
I've written in both, the main advantage C# has is that it is less verbose but that doesn't make it better, it probably makes it more difficult for inexpierenced programmers to read.
Portables make horrible servers. No RAID, slower disks, single processor only(although you could get dual core). Also laptops are more likely to break. I notice some people saying they run Apache on thiers, well big deal that doesn't make it a business quality server that means it can run some low memory footprint software.
His arguement is that open source systems are free. Well.Net is free so if there is a problem with system costs that is an OS issue not.Net which is free just like Java.
There are other ways than storing a password. For example in Windows ASP/ASP.NET you could use a domain account to run your app and then use windows integrated authentication on a SQL Server database.
Tell me where you can sell your 2 year old PC for nearly 60% of it's value and easily get it sold. Apple's usually get that premium.
Buy a Sun Workstation, that will hold value even longer. As if people buy computers as investments for resale value.
Other than games or wierd business apps from the vertical market, there is no real reason to not switch to a more stable, secure and user friendly platform like OSX.
Do you work for Apple marketing or something? I don't know that Mac is really anymore user friendly than Windows anymore(I don't think it has been since Windows 95 came out), especially considering most office workers already know how to use Windows because they use it at work. But I'll give you a reason not to switch almost no software you own will run on a Mac.
Also faced with dropping $300.00 for Vista and the requirement to double ram, speed,etc... people will really look at apple closer as their current system ages.
I don't get this point, Macs are still going to cost more for similarly equiped systems. They have always priced themselves out of the market. They make systems that are not suitable for business and systems that cost too much for most home users. In a few years Apple is just going to be a media and consumer electronics company. OSX has no where to go in the market, Windows is the commercial desktop OS of choice and Linux is a more attractive alternative than Mac.
Use stored procedures and you won't care if semi-colons are inserted, they won't hurt the statement. Plus you'll get a performance boost to boot. Use of stored procedures have so many advantages over dynamic SQL, you really are quite novice to not realize this.
Really he should be CEO, you should take several of the lesser titles to make employees know you are both powerful. You could takes titles of CIO, CTO, and Enterprise Architech.
Something else you should think about do you want to spend a large amount of time dealing with investor relations, hr issues, accounting, and so on. If you guys are both majoring in what you like, I would think you would prefer to be involved with technology and he would prefer to be running the business side. If you both have equal shares of stock in the end who cares about titles.
For an example look at Sun they are being led by a man who has technology at his core not business and it is only half successful.
This is NOT 100% true. Sure there 'can' be minor syntax changes, but there are ALSO pages that can run in ASP.NET and no programming changes are required to the native ASP page. So you are missing the differences here, there are many times ASP Pages can be put into an ASP.NET Application without modification.
Who ever you are replying to was wrong about most things but I haven't seen a page that does anything useful that can be resaved from.asp to.aspx without editing. Just about the only things you can do with the same syntax is response and request type operations.
SQL Express is just a weakend version of SQL Server, it will run an app like your saying without trouble. But it is a network database not a file type like Access. Also you can't include UI in it, you need a different front end. Developing for it is just like developing for any other SQL Server Edition with a few weaknesses like only single processor and 1GB of RAM max.
it's funny: my nephew's ten, and a huge fan of family guy. he thinks the simpsons are a poor imitation of the former - not funny, and not worth watching.
Has is occured to you that the Simpsons main audience may be older. Go to a college and you will find no shortage of Simpsons fans.
Bullshit. There is no way I believe that exact combo has 70% of the web sites. Lets see Linux might have the most but I highly doubt they have 70% are you saying that Windows, FreeBSD, Solaris, and Misc O/S only total 30%.
What about sites that use PERL , ASP, ASP.NET, JSP, or just static HTML, once again I doubt that only totals 30% of sites.
Then the big one MYSQL is not used on 70% of sites, I worked at a web host for a while and know that most hosting customers don't even really know what a database is, let alone use one.
But the problem with SQL Server for Oracle is that each SQL Server release narrows the gap. Before SQL 6.5, SQL Server was a joke. By 7 it was good for web enabled apps, 2000 could handle a decent amount of traffic and provide reasonably high availabilty. 2005 looks to be an improvement, probably needs a few service packs though.
This is what Microsoft does best, they put out a product and slowly over time make it eat into market share and improve the features until it becomes the market leader. They have the money and marketing to slowly chip away at competitors.
SQL Server 2005 enterprize is 26000 and Standard is 6000. Now I know it is not as good as Oracle for huge volume databases. But if a company wants a commercial DB Oracle really has priced themselves too high for most uses. I think DB2 and Sybase are cheaper as well but I don't know the exact pricing.
Wow you really are dumb. You think if it is written for Windows it is a write once never maintain. I've seen huge apps written for Windows COM based that run account management for hundred million dollar companies. How about Microsoft Office that was written on a Windows Platform for a Windows platform that software far exceeds MySQL in deployment.
You're just plain wrong: The popularity of Visual studio doesn't count for shit because of these knobs that are using it- that aren't doing development.
Where is your fact this isn't development. Because this software doesn't run on Linux or Unix. Well I got news for you Windows is the top platform right now. It obviously isn't suited to developing Linux or an OS, because VS right now is for.NET which sits on top of the OS.
Development in Windows for example.
Monster.com is running ASP thats on Windows
MS Office thats built on Windows and is one of the most used pieces of software on the planet
Every little Access and VB app around took analysis of business processes and rules. That seems to be development to me, I guess that just isn't on a grand enough scale to you
But you are really just a tool anyways, you ramble a bunch of large open source projects and then through in Oracle and you some how make this seem to be an example of how Windows isn't a good development platform. Hell your first example of Mozilla isn't even very good since they state they develop Firefox for Windows XP first and then port to other platforms. The fact is Visual Studio is the top IDE and it blows away all opponents in usability. Do a search on Monster or Hot Jobs and see how many jobs there are for.Net development then do a search for Python or Ruby and see which is greater.
Most applications do not involve anything more than writing code
Where do you work, I've never worked any place that just is write the code. Where is the requirements gathering, cost/benefit analysis, scope, etc. Almost any paid development job is more than just coding.
Most people writing software on Windows aren't developers- they're doing something, but I'm certain it's not software development.
I have no clue what you mean by this. The only thing I can tell is that you don't think Windows is good so you just say things like this with no real fact behind them. You may not like VB6 type applications but they fill business needs, and they fall in the definition of development.
I agree with you. Its hard to believe the future of the web is going to be Javascript passing XML. Sure it makes the UI seem fast but at the cost complexity. Plus I have to believe there is a model that is better for performance, I mean XML is is too repetive all that meta data comes at a cost.
I never said these features were useful. I am saying the grand parent poster called Google very featurful, I don't think that is the case. Google is great but it doesn't crame in the features.
I think developers for Windows are programming productivity tools, games, virus scanners, business apps, etc. You are correct these things will need to be installed yes, but first they need to be created. Last time I checked Visual Studio was very popular and other tools such as Eclipse, JDeveloper, and Delphi all function on Windows.
Wait I guess it is only developing to you if some nerd is sitting in their basement writing a perl script to sort porn files.
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Power is also another issue involved, that is not cheap.
Well the hardware to setup these systems up is one of the major problems for the price. Most researchers have limited funding. I doubt using WIndows is going to help the price problem at all though.
How can you say C# is better than VB.NET? If you set your compile options correctly they compile the same in most cases. What matters more is the quality of the programmer and you will get better code. If I could get a good VB.NET programmer I would take him over 4 bad C# programmers and vice versa. The languages are basically the same.
I've written in both, the main advantage C# has is that it is less verbose but that doesn't make it better, it probably makes it more difficult for inexpierenced programmers to read.
Portables make horrible servers. No RAID, slower disks, single processor only(although you could get dual core). Also laptops are more likely to break. I notice some people saying they run Apache on thiers, well big deal that doesn't make it a business quality server that means it can run some low memory footprint software.
His arguement is that open source systems are free. Well .Net is free so if there is a problem with system costs that is an OS issue not .Net which is free just like Java.
I can't wait for this.
Is this really news or this the kind of crap like they shot in the 50's where they claimed everyone would own a robot and dive a flying car by 1980.
There are other ways than storing a password. For example in Windows ASP/ASP.NET you could use a domain account to run your app and then use windows integrated authentication on a SQL Server database.
Tell me where you can sell your 2 year old PC for nearly 60% of it's value and easily get it sold. Apple's usually get that premium.
Buy a Sun Workstation, that will hold value even longer. As if people buy computers as investments for resale value.
Other than games or wierd business apps from the vertical market, there is no real reason to not switch to a more stable, secure and user friendly platform like OSX.
Do you work for Apple marketing or something? I don't know that Mac is really anymore user friendly than Windows anymore(I don't think it has been since Windows 95 came out), especially considering most office workers already know how to use Windows because they use it at work. But I'll give you a reason not to switch almost no software you own will run on a Mac.
Also faced with dropping $300.00 for Vista and the requirement to double ram, speed,etc... people will really look at apple closer as their current system ages.
I don't get this point, Macs are still going to cost more for similarly equiped systems. They have always priced themselves out of the market. They make systems that are not suitable for business and systems that cost too much for most home users. In a few years Apple is just going to be a media and consumer electronics company. OSX has no where to go in the market, Windows is the commercial desktop OS of choice and Linux is a more attractive alternative than Mac.
Use stored procedures and you won't care if semi-colons are inserted, they won't hurt the statement. Plus you'll get a performance boost to boot. Use of stored procedures have so many advantages over dynamic SQL, you really are quite novice to not realize this.
Really he should be CEO, you should take several of the lesser titles to make employees know you are both powerful. You could takes titles of CIO, CTO, and Enterprise Architech. Something else you should think about do you want to spend a large amount of time dealing with investor relations, hr issues, accounting, and so on. If you guys are both majoring in what you like, I would think you would prefer to be involved with technology and he would prefer to be running the business side. If you both have equal shares of stock in the end who cares about titles. For an example look at Sun they are being led by a man who has technology at his core not business and it is only half successful.
This is NOT 100% true. Sure there 'can' be minor syntax changes, but there are ALSO pages that can run in ASP.NET and no programming changes are required to the native ASP page. So you are missing the differences here, there are many times ASP Pages can be put into an ASP.NET Application without modification. .asp to .aspx without editing. Just about the only things you can do with the same syntax is response and request type operations.
Who ever you are replying to was wrong about most things but I haven't seen a page that does anything useful that can be resaved from
SQL Express is just a weakend version of SQL Server, it will run an app like your saying without trouble. But it is a network database not a file type like Access. Also you can't include UI in it, you need a different front end. Developing for it is just like developing for any other SQL Server Edition with a few weaknesses like only single processor and 1GB of RAM max.
Imagine storing a terabyte of data on a single disk, and it all runs on Linux
Why can't the same concept be used to compress on Mac, BSD, Windows, and Solaris?
it's funny: my nephew's ten, and a huge fan of family guy. he thinks the simpsons are a poor imitation of the former - not funny, and not worth watching.
Has is occured to you that the Simpsons main audience may be older. Go to a college and you will find no shortage of Simpsons fans.
If they are only using it for Parked domains it shouldn't effect your services, unless you are using it for parked domains that is.
70% of websites around the world.
Bullshit. There is no way I believe that exact combo has 70% of the web sites. Lets see Linux might have the most but I highly doubt they have 70% are you saying that Windows, FreeBSD, Solaris, and Misc O/S only total 30%.
What about sites that use PERL , ASP, ASP.NET, JSP, or just static HTML, once again I doubt that only totals 30% of sites.
Then the big one MYSQL is not used on 70% of sites, I worked at a web host for a while and know that most hosting customers don't even really know what a database is, let alone use one.
But the problem with SQL Server for Oracle is that each SQL Server release narrows the gap. Before SQL 6.5, SQL Server was a joke. By 7 it was good for web enabled apps, 2000 could handle a decent amount of traffic and provide reasonably high availabilty. 2005 looks to be an improvement, probably needs a few service packs though.
This is what Microsoft does best, they put out a product and slowly over time make it eat into market share and improve the features until it becomes the market leader. They have the money and marketing to slowly chip away at competitors.
Oracle $40,000 a processor
SQL Server 2005 enterprize is 26000 and Standard is 6000. Now I know it is not as good as Oracle for huge volume databases. But if a company wants a commercial DB Oracle really has priced themselves too high for most uses. I think DB2 and Sybase are cheaper as well but I don't know the exact pricing.
Well that is true. But that wouldn't really be AJAX.
You're just plain wrong: The popularity of Visual studio doesn't count for shit because of these knobs that are using it- that aren't doing development.
Where is your fact this isn't development. Because this software doesn't run on Linux or Unix. Well I got news for you Windows is the top platform right now. It obviously isn't suited to developing Linux or an OS, because VS right now is for
Development in Windows for example.
But you are really just a tool anyways, you ramble a bunch of large open source projects and then through in Oracle and you some how make this seem to be an example of how Windows isn't a good development platform. Hell your first example of Mozilla isn't even very good since they state they develop Firefox for Windows XP first and then port to other platforms. The fact is Visual Studio is the top IDE and it blows away all opponents in usability. Do a search on Monster or Hot Jobs and see how many jobs there are for
Most applications do not involve anything more than writing code
Where do you work, I've never worked any place that just is write the code. Where is the requirements gathering, cost/benefit analysis, scope, etc. Almost any paid development job is more than just coding.
Most people writing software on Windows aren't developers- they're doing something, but I'm certain it's not software development.
I have no clue what you mean by this. The only thing I can tell is that you don't think Windows is good so you just say things like this with no real fact behind them. You may not like VB6 type applications but they fill business needs, and they fall in the definition of development.
I agree with you. Its hard to believe the future of the web is going to be Javascript passing XML. Sure it makes the UI seem fast but at the cost complexity. Plus I have to believe there is a model that is better for performance, I mean XML is is too repetive all that meta data comes at a cost.
I never said these features were useful. I am saying the grand parent poster called Google very featurful, I don't think that is the case. Google is great but it doesn't crame in the features.
I think developers for Windows are programming productivity tools, games, virus scanners, business apps, etc. You are correct these things will need to be installed yes, but first they need to be created. Last time I checked Visual Studio was very popular and other tools such as Eclipse, JDeveloper, and Delphi all function on Windows.
Wait I guess it is only developing to you if some nerd is sitting in their basement writing a perl script to sort porn files.