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GoDaddy.com Dumps Linux for Microsoft
RobertB-DC writes "Bargain-basement registrar GoDaddy.com has decided to move all its parked domains to Microsoft servers, saying that they'll provide 'a technology platform that is security-enhanced, highly scalable and easy to manage.' This is a shift away from Linux, a decision met with derision by other registrars such as Gandi.net, which greeted the news with the headline 'Go Daddy and never come back'. Late last year, GoDaddy.com had some 'issues', shall we say, with non-Microsoft browsers."
Ghandi never struck me as the kind of guy who trashtalks others. Well you learn something new everyday, I suppose.
Since most of these parked domain names are just misspellings of respectable sites or total nonsense, full of links to casinos and places to get prescription drugs, which no one would ever actually register and use for hosting, does it really matter what OS the server is running?
Who cares?
An OS is no good without applications on top of it.
If GoDaddy doesn't have the wherewithal to develop applications for Linux, maybe they'll have better luck with Windows. It gives them the ability to use ASP.Net on the server side with all the benefits that entails.
GoDaddy has jumped the shark,
News at eleven
All your base to Microsoft.
The filesystem is the package manager
I have approx. 13 domain names registered with GoDaddy. I've always loved their service and prices.
Now, while I don't mind Windows (yes, counter-culture here on Slashdot) for my desktop OS, I can't stand using windows for anything related to hosting web sites, if only for the fact that I'm used to working with Linux, MySQL, and being able to chmod (yes, Windows boxes have something similar, but it doesn't work nearly as well through FTP).
So I'm assuming the service is going to start going downhill. Anyone care to point me to a good alternative domain hoster with comparable prices?
I use GoDaddy for my hundreds of domain registrations....too bad to see them make this decision. Not to be a blatant Microsoft troll, but it is nearly generally recognized in the server community that Linux/Apache is a more secure solution than Windows. Why would GoDaddy site security as their reason to change vendors?
Read the only personal Runyon page out there.
"It was clear from all of the testing we've conducted that Microsoft provides an efficient and scalable operating platform, while also providing the performance needed to handle our extraordinary growth."
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!!!!!!!
30% Troll, 50% Underrated, 10% Interesting
Score:5, Troll
I think we can all agree that, at the very least, Linux SERVERS are better than Windows servers.
And, GoDaddy should at least know that much.
So, the question is, why are they doing it? Do you think Microsoft is paying them to do this? Did management's preconception that "Windows is what we use on our desktops, so it MUST be good for our servers" override any rational thought? Did they think it would trick customers who didn't know better and think, "They use Windows, just like our own computers, it must be good"?
Any thoughts?
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It's interesting that GoDaddy.com is looking for people with Linux skills:x &cn=GoDaddy&sort=rv&vw=b&cy=US&re=14&brd=1%2C128%2 C1862%2C1863
3 8005&AVSDM=2006-02-20+15%3A04%3A46&Logo=1&q=linux& cn=GoDaddy&lid=338&sort=rv&vw=b&cy=US&brd=1,128,18 62,1863
5 5008&AVSDM=2006-02-24+17%3A38%3A10&Logo=1&q=linux& cn=GoDaddy&lid=338&sort=rv&vw=b&cy=US&brd=1,128,18 62,1863
http://jobsearch.monster.com/jobsearch.asp?q=linu
Examples:
Linux Systems Manager
http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=399
Senior Linux Software Engineer
http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=401
They talked about moving to Windows and said, basically, that the costs roughly in line with Linux when you take into account administration/management costs and that MSFT was bending over backwards to meet their needs. They liked MSFT's customer service. They like ASP.NET because of the capabilities it provides. They like MSFT's vision and...most important of all...their customers liked the results when they used Windows hosting sevices.
Sounds like another move from Microsoft's corporate espionage department, building on the previous "problems" GoDaddy had with non-MS browsers. I think my favorite MS black-ops move was when they made "The Matrix" DVD playable on every DVD player except the Macintosh DVD player, and yes, this is the only DVD that does this. Go ahead, grab your copy and read the fine print at the bottom.
Ex nihilo nihil fit.
MS is just pissed off that they keep loosing market share on netcraft so the likely dropped godaddy a big ole wad of cash to move all those worthless
.net is. Being a ex asp programmer I grabbed the latest copy of visual studio and had a little go with
parked domains to IIS servers....To think there is a technical reason or advantage is pure hog wash...
And don't give me a bunch of bull about how great
it.....guess what, it is still the same buggy piece of crap it always was.
Got Code?
I wish GoDaddy would treat their resellers better. I am a co-owner of http://namecents.com/ and I'm really starting to regret choosing GoDaddy over Enom. At least Enom would let the resellers know of such changes ahead of time.
Religion for nerds. Stuff that really matters
I have a php on linux package there... are they moving away from these? Because if they are their going to lose my business.
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out?
I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
I would HIGHLY recommend http://1and1.com/ for your hosting needs. I've had 5 or 6 domains registered there under a couple accounts with different hosting plans and have had nothing but excellent service. They've got both linux and microsoft hosting plans, dirt cheap prices and lots of storage space and monthly transfer for the price, plus great custom service.
(and it you want to switch over let me know and you can say you heard about it from me so I get a little $$ =)
Gnnrh, erk, urgh, aangh... twitch... spasm
So let me get this straight, GoDaddy are going to "maximize all of our resources, particularly our technology assets" by switching to a system with higher general resource requirements and higher cash costs than they have now?
When did they change management and why has that man, or body of men, not been smacked around repeatedly with a nice fat, two tonne LART?
His name is Robert Paulsen...
When I waste money registering misspelled domain names and register tons of word combinations while speculating on new product names, I need somewhere that can handle the strenuous demands of parking my domains.
I'm not stupid - I wouldn't trust the job of handling web redirects to any of that old legacy stuff like UNIX. That stuff was old back when I was using Windows 3.1... and Windows has gotten a lot better since then. When people try to access my domainnames, I expect the performance of Geniune Windows.
I know that sometimes domain names need to be rebooted too, like when critical updates get applied, but that's okay. I wouldn't want my domain names parked on an unpatched, so-called "highly available" server.
No sir, it's genuine-windows-advantage-plays-for-sure for me and my domain collection.
My experience with GoDaddy shows that the company takes advantage of people with little technical experience by confusing them. Visit the GoDaddy website yourself and see what you think. It's filled with ads, especially when you are in the second and third pages of registering a domain.
I'm guessing Microsoft paid GoDaddy to change. That would fit with my conception of the behavior of both of them.
"a technology platform that is security-enhanced, highly scalable and easy to manage."
That sounds exactly like the junk that Microsoft spews in their ads. This is advertising money at work.
-1 disagree is not a modifier for a reason. -1 troll, flaimbait, redundant, overrated are NOT acceptable substitutes.
I heard MS is paying godaddy for doing this a lot of money. All MS wants is to say most domain names are hosted on a windows platform.
I beg the Linux zealots not to do their thing right away. GoDaddy will come back sooner or later. Nothing can hide a fact, nothing! We've seen this before. They will come back. May be this is part of the incompetence I have seen in US companies lately. I hope I am wrong.
GoDaddy's tech staff obviously isn't capable of configuring anything running on Linux (see the last GoDaddy article). Personally I'd rather see them send proper HTTP headers on a Windows platform than such malformed ones using Linux.
Skype is too convoluted... Now I'm reverse-engineering the Kyoto Protocol.
"Go ahead, grab your copy and read the fine print at the bottom."
"The enhanced DVD-ROM features will not work on a Macintosh computer"
"I think my favorite MS black-ops move was when they made "The Matrix" DVD playable on every DVD player except the Macintosh DVD player, and yes, this is the only DVD that does this."
Shrek.
- Server-side development on Unix/Linux platform, Windows experience a plus
- SQL development utilizing MySQL DBMS and MS SQL
Not exactly a linux engineer.Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I know this might sound crazy. But perhaps GoDaddy might use... I dunno... cluster services, so that when they're rebooting one server it all fails over to the second.
The Matrix dvd will play fine in a Mac. The "enhanced features" e.g.: interactive sofware is windows only.
That is my assumption... I used to work for Register.com and we were having a HUGE number of parked domains and redirected domains served by Linux. Basically Microsoft approached us and offered us a pile of cash AND some of their engineers to help so we migrate the servers serving this (futurestep it was called if i remember right) to Windows and that they can use that as advertisement AND that netcraft would show a significant change in the number of sites hosted by Windows.... Let's say that it was very hard to refuse this...
So yeah... I would assume the same. How much money/services did they got from Microsoft?
No, no it does not. It might play okay on OSX, or perhaps they finally found a way for the OS 9 player to get around MS's shenanigans, but let me be clear: when the Matrix DVD was released, nothing on it played or worked in a Mac OS 9 DVD player, and didn't for at least a year or two. I remember this quite well as my Mac was my only DVD player, and I got the Matrix as soon as it came out on DVD. Imagine my chagrin. And yes, I checked with other people; the Apple support forums were flooded with complaints.
Ex nihilo nihil fit.
Well I'm sold.
"I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
Oh c'mon, Go Daddy is not suddenly the bad guy because they chose a different technology platform. They didn't choose it to make Linux advocates resentful or to make Microsoft partners happy. It was a business decision. They think it will help them for their specific need. If Mac OSX would have been more helpful to their business they would have chosen it instead, or Atari OS or whatever. So what if they had problems with non-Microsoft browsers in the past or not; the author tries to draw a correlation but it's irrelevant. The author is just acting stupid I'm afraid to say. I mean, the issue is very interesting in and of itself, but I want to see mature discussion. Let's not put Go Daddy down because we prefer apples over oranges. I would rather see mature discussion about the switch. Indeed the good posts are already coming in ...
When you boss points out this time you can say, "Google uses Linux, not Windows."
I don't think 10,000 outfits such as GoDaddy are going to have a pull anywhere near Google collectively.
Interesting article. I found out today that Godaddy had lost all of the email forwarding accounts I had set up for my friends, family and coworkers on March 6th. Not sure that its related to the server switch, but their tech support couldn't tell me why it happened. Their response - well, email forwarding is just the tiniest bit of web hosting and we don't really track it that much. Maybe so, but try telling that to the fifty people not getting their email.
... Who's your daddy now?
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Or they'll lose LOTS of business. They did default my site to MS, but I called and asked them to switch it to linux as I use php forums, and php gallery, etc.
rhY
I hold very few opinions. I hold information based on observation and fact. If you wish to disagree, please use facts.
This move isn't surprising because of the fact that ASP.NET has become fairly well adopted among a sizable group of web developers. Merits of Linux vs Windows on the server aside (each has pros and cons), it is clearly easier to standardize on a single platform than to support both, and if you're going to support ASP.NET, Windows is required. On the other hand, all the web technologies that are often deployed on Linux like Apache and PHP and mod_perl and whatever else are also available for Windows, giving Windows the superset of oft-used web development technologies and thus the win.
.NET APIs (particularly .NET 2.0), and therefore isn't really a solution for people who need ASP.NET support that Just Works.
Note: I am, of course, aware of Mono, and it is great, but doesn't implement all the
"Microsoft, the preferred platform for content-free websites"
"Microsoft, recommended by 9 out of 10 get-rich quick customers"
Seems kind of appropriate that MS is out to capture the scammer segment of the market, doesn't it? (Apologies to folks who park sites to protect themselves from scam artists.)
Microsoft has just released their much anticipated hands-free cordless mouse. Warning, it may hurt a little at first.
If Microsoft provided me with all new servers and gave me a bunch of support and management people for 5 years, I'd seriously consider migrating to Microsoft's platform too.
But if not, well, I'll stay with my functional, stable, inexpensive, fast, secure, scalable, reliable Linux based systems.
But that's just me. Call me a risk-adverse cheapskate - I can take it.
This makes perfect sense for anyone who's had experience with both Godaddy and Microsoft products. This is good news for those of us who want more stability and performance in our offerings. It's even easier to steer clear of these monstrosities. Now let's see if we can get Hyundai and Network Solutions to team up.
Aren't they afraid of loosing clients? This is one of the few areas that we have great influence... I mean we, the tech guys who use Linux (and read /. ). People usualy ask us for a list of recomendations before choosing. And, unless they keep a Linux service (cheaper that MS servers), they won't be in my lists when a client asks me for web hosting.
You may say this is a political reason for a technical question. Yes, part of it. But I want to have Linux around when all those Windows servers stop working at the same time (I've seen it happen and I won't make the same mistake twice).
Linux option or no recomendation for them.
GoDaddy can GoFuckThemSelves.
Ok so I've already said that in the last Slashdot story about GoDaddy. But really, I didn't have any interest in doing business with GoDaddy before (though do buy domain names occasionally), and if they are stupid enough to choose Microsoft products for their servers, well I don't I'll ever have interest in doing business with them.
#!/
Sounds like the cybernym of a beatnik or a pedophile.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
"And don't give me a bunch of bull about how great .net is. Being a ex asp programmer I grabbed the latest copy of visual studio and had a little go with
it.....guess what, it is still the same buggy piece of crap it always was."
Well I'm a Smalltalk/Lisp/Forth programmer and all the rest of you suck. So there! Pfft!
GoDaddy have always been MS shills. They've always touted their Windows hosting as superiour the linux. Their tech people don't know anything about linux, and try to sell you windows hosting when you have a problem with their pathetic linux offerings. Years ago when I saw them advertising how much more secure their windows hosting is compared to linux, I moved all my stuff away.
Which instantly crashes due to the sudden surge in load... :)
Microsoft has just released their much anticipated hands-free cordless mouse. Warning, it may hurt a little at first.
Most of the other servers hold xxx% of the Internet, and the remaining 5 hold the tech/geek content.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I recently had to write a program for a network programming class that accepts a URL, determines its host and request and sends out an HTTP request, then takes the resulting HTML and parses it for all URLs within it, and finally ping all the URLs it finds in that HTML page. Now, my program is only as verbose as it had to be but out of curiosity, I wanted to use it to try two URLs I saw in the replies for this post. Seeing how everyone says the command-line browsers all fail, I just had to try it, so here's my first try, and I get results as expected: $ java LinkParser www.photosparks.com Running... Connecting to host: www.photosparks.com Sending server the request: GET / HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: Java Host: www.photosparks.com Connection: close Pinging www.photosparks.com (gallery) Requesting /gallery/index.html
Returned status 200 OK
Pinging www.photosparks.com (weddings)
Requesting /weddings.html
Returned status 200 OK
Pinging www.photosparks.com (contact)
Requesting /contact.html
Returned status 200 OK
Pinging www.photosparks.com (home)
Requesting /index.html
Returned status 200 OK
Pinging www.photosparks.com (portraits)
Requesting /portraitpricing.html
Returned status 200 OK
Pinging sparks.photoreflect.com (click here)
Requesting /
Returned status 302 Redirect
Pinging www.photoreflect.com (click here)
Requesting /
Returned status 302 Redirect
Okay so now I try another one:
$ java LinkParser www.catalogueofships.com
Running...
Connecting to host: www.catalogueofships.com
Sending server the request:
GET / HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Java
Host: www.catalogueofships.com
Connection: close
And the output stops there, the program just terminates. I have seen this behavior just once before, the sample testing page the professor offered us. It was hosted on the school server which behaved the same way. (I'm not saying it has the same problem as described with godaddy domain, but the result was the same, the program would just seemingly die.) For our scenario, the server was configured to reject all requests that lacked a User-Agent field in the header; it wouldn't even give a connection refused response.
I'm sure if I make my program more verbose I will discover what others have already found about the problem described.
I thought it would be interesting to post these results, and also, what is the purpose to configure a server to reject requests without a User-Agent? If the answer is to stop abusive network traffic, what is the point, anyone can very easily specify any User-Agent value as I have: I simply put "Java" there, as if the server knows any better!
Gentoo Linux - Wouldn't have it any other way. And fuck beta.
Billions of dollars flow to them daily
Oops. Make that millions.
No seriously, I think the CEO saw the output of Linux compiling a program with gcc and screamed "LINUX IS BROKEN AND GOING CRAZY!" which made him switch to the "security" of Windows.
;P
Now I bet that's what REALLY happened!
READY.
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How many customers will now dump GoDaddy?
It's overpriced (comparing to 1&1, for example) AND it hosts parked domains on MS servers. More than enough reasons to dump GoDaddy, if you ask me.
As far as Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers is concerned, that's a false premise as you are quite capable of running Apache, MySQL, Sendmail, BIND, etc, on a Windows platform. Linux per-thread costs are far better than Windows per-thread costs, but we're talking seldom-accessed parked sites that will be visited by the occasional webcrawler, portscanner and domain name buyer. They don't need to do much more than serve a static page.
In which case, you wouldn't need to run a server on Linux at all - you'd use Tux, which is extremely fast for static-only content. I think there was another accelerated system - I think it was X15 - but dunno what happened to that. Actually, you'd be better off running ExoPC and their Cheetah webserver, as you don't even really need a full OS for single-page static content.
Windows, though, would do fine in such an environment. The one risk Microsoft is, however, running is that competitors may be able to leverage this as a way of "proving" Microsoft can't do anything real, that it can ONLY do toy stuff. That could hurt it in the server market. Again, though, only if the competitors were to spin the move in this way.
(Hint hint...)
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
"We needed to do some things that were impossible with Linux given the time demands and budget," said Linus Torvalds, a spokesperson for Linus Torvalds. "By migrating all our systems to Microsoft over the next eighteen quarters, we will save an estimated 35% on our IT costs."
By leveraging innovative technologies, content providers streamline compelling enterprise solutions. Microsoft. Where do you want to get the facts today?
Are you that stupid to not see the millions recently deposited in GoDaddy accounts?
I'm definitely not a google fanboi, quite the opposite in fact, but http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html is one thing they've given back. Sure, doesn't make up for the fact they're pandering to the needs of certain govts and doing their dirty work for them, and they're datamining waaay too much stuff in my opinion, but it's something at least.
In any case, saying Go Daddy uses windows is a bullshit PHB thing, saying google uses linux is a counter bullshit PHB thing. Fire with fire.
(Ironic that my captcha reads "vilified")
GoDaddy has decided to switch to Microsoft servers. That is the first sign of their evil infection. The other sign is that they are now lying about why. It cannot possibly be that GoDaddy is in the business of making money and Linux was hindering that in any way. We all know that Linux is always better at everything. We must assume that GoDaddy knew it was more secure with Linux but decided to switch to MS because they enjoy being less secure.
Yea that makes a lot of fucking sense! Now quell your anger by clicking on the dropdown and selecting "Flamebait -1". Feel better now?
Post the URL of a Windows web site that doesn't work because it is running windows...
This is not a troll, Just Joe Sixpack wanting to see the difference from my FireFox browser... I can't tell what I am looking at. For all I know Slashdot runs on IIS 4.
"I knew Ghandi, he was a prick..." (from Robin Williams live on Broadway, so it must be true)
DNS service is not exactly a high-tech endeavour anyway. It is akin to word processing and spreadsheets. The escalator of technology has passed this point a long time ago.
It doesn't say much there.
Wanted: Clever sig, top $ paid, all offers considered.
Office Intern: "Is it me or does the GoDaddy.com Girl look a little strange today? She's dressed in black. She has this laser pointer strapped to the side of her head, and she keeps posting this message everyones mailbox." Office Jerk: "I'd like to 'service' that if you know what I mean...Ha ha--" *Loboobus sneaks up behind him and injects him with Microsoft Nanoprobes XP*
/Set phasers to Dreamhost.com
The Rapture is NOT an exit strategy.
If you want to run anything on Godaddy's servers that accesses files in PHP (which includes things like include and require in directories other than the current one), you have to ask to be put on a Linux server. This is because the only way Godaddy has found to keep Windows "secure" is to disable features... It's one of the reasons they recently stopped supporting "one button install" for PHPBB; it wouldn't work if it was on a Windows box, due to safe mode restrictions.
Fortunately, that isn't a problem with parked domains!
Well of course they're going to Microsoft - they're pro torture. GoDaddy's CEO's Blog.
...to us. We (no, not management) thought it would be a good idea to get a billboard opposite their offices - only about 10 miles from us - that had a tag line of "Everybody's moving to IPOWER", with photos of all the key employees we gained on it.
:)
I don't think marketing went with the idea though. Shame really...
Who cares about which OS they use when they've got the The GoDaddy Girl!
(and she's from Wisconsin I might add)
The summary and ESPECIALLY the headline are misleading enough I think that /. should post an edit to it...
"GoDaddy.com Asks for Forgiveness and Crawls Back to Linux"
You may hate the movies but they make a great foil for philosophers to practice their craft much as superheroes were for physicists.
BTW, what has Google ever given back to the OSS community it depends on to supply Linux, MySQL, Python, etc.?
Does employing a huge number of prominent open-source developers count for anything? OSS coders gotta eat, you know. A partial list, off the top of my head: Guido Van Rossum (Mr. Python), the Gaim lead developer, the Camino lead developer, Spamassassin lead developer (I think; not sure), a bunch of Firefox developers ... the list goes on. These people are paid to work on OSS projects and contribute code back to the community!
"The actual press-release on Yahoo! Finance states 'Go Daddy® will have moved all its parked domains from Linux to the Windows platform.'" ... and back again!
What a cunning stunt!
Mwehehehehehee
I first bought my domains from GoDaddy.com a while back because they were cheap. Then they started bringing in the ads and web interface started getting really annoying. I then found out about 1and1.com. They are cheaper than Godaddy for domains and just about everything else. Their web interface is cleaner. No annoying ads that I encountered. They dont nickel and dime you on small stuff. For example Godaddy charges you extra if you want to hide your registration information from the spammers. Not so with 1and1.com.
I am much happier with 1and1.com.
I do still have a few domains left with Godaddy. I will now hurry up and switch them over. Teaming up with Microsoft and making press releases about their switch away from Linux will cost them some business. May not be much but I'll do my part.
Lets disregard the fact that most of their coders are from the OSS world, and contribute heavily. Perhaps the single best thing that they have given is a superior search engine that is browser neutral. Yahoo and MSN have done a piss poor job of supporting anything but MSIE. Now that Google has come along, Yahoo has improved, but MSN is going to get far worse; Why? To counter the threat that google has created.
Google has given a great deal to the community. Far more than MS has to the world in its 30 years.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Well, they're good guys no more. Today they have broken this long standing promise and sent their "Newsletter" to every single customer. The contents: Promotional crap for a bunch of services I don't give a rat's arse about.
So what's everyone's favorite decent low-cost regristrar? 1and1?
Your domain name parking/registration is usually done with a different company than the company you choose to be your web host.
Unless you're clueless, then you go with somebody like dreamhost or 1and1 to do everything for you. Good luck moving to a different host down the road.
How's your uptime, btw? Heard it's pretty shitty on the http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ boards. You did the proper research there before choosing 1and1, right?
MS IIS servers can handle very high loads very well, .net and asp, when done correctly are very efficient(precompiling files and whatnot) IIS does not have the end user control panels (cpanel and the like)or multiuserness(is that a word) down well at all, but for parked domains it makes a lot of sense. Microsoft has done a hell of a job making sure there stuff runs fast on their servers when programmed with their stuff(thats why I always bet on them, they make devloping for their platforms too easy/efficent(pretty much the only reason anyone uses iis)). Precompiled code will always run faster then interpeted(or whatever you want to call perl/any non compiled code) Very few people commenting on this have ever run websites under the load we are talking about, believe me code that fine with 100k/day hits does not usually scale to millions of hits well. And cost is not an object really in business, you need support and linux support contracts costs just as much as ms licenses. When you have multimillion dollar companies with investors they don't care that the IT guy is a genious with the os, they need a tangible contract with a SLA regardless if you'll ever use it.
So parked domains make sense, but they will not switch over their other servers/services.
And besides no matter what OS, web, app, or db server you run, they always fail to scale at the backend(DB) due to poor shortsighted design.
So at the end of the day it comes down to your developers/DBA's: GIGO
... does anyone here bother to check some facts, or is it all just zealotry on both ends?
There have been less exploits for IIS 6.0 than for Apache. IIS 5.0, on the other hand, has been full of holes, but with patches regularly applied, there were no problems with security. The same goes for Apache.
If you patch your web servers, you're OK. If you don't, it doesn't matter what OS and web server you're using, someone will do nasty stuff to them.
Where I work at (it's a government institution), we have both IIS 6.0 and Apache servers open to the world. Apache serves static content, IIS has a SQL Server backend. Both have been running for a bit more than two years, and in that time, neither of them had any security breaches, nor did any one of them crash, nor be unavailable, despite about a million hits and 80-100k unique visitors daily.
Bottom line is: BOTH PLATFORMS ARE SECURE IF THEIR ADMINISTRATORS HAVE A BRAIN.
I was hosting a couple dozen domains with GoDaddy for the longest time but they keep going downhill in various respects, It's a shame but, hey, there are other bargain registrars and hosts that offer better service and that have become more secure and reliable - thanks to switching to Linux servers.
Joking, but one good thing all those parked domains on IIS are useful for is improving their "market share" on Netcraft's site survey. I would bet that nearly half (or more) of all registered domains are just "parked", I am unsure how many of those are on godaddy.com though.
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
Some of the Netcraft numbers are based on the number of domains hosted by a platform or web server. By paying off GoDaddy.com for parked domains they will get a large boost in Netcraft numbers for IIS and Windows Server. Sure the domains don't reflect 'productive' websites; but they still count. Not a bad plan.
From GoDaddy's point of view, it's a no brainer. Who doesn't want money? Besides, there isn't even any evil involved in this one.
They are not removing their Linux hosting. Go to godaddy.com, Hosting & Servers, Virtual Dedicated Servers. All of the preconfigured plans use Red Hat Fedora Core 2. The "Hosting Plans" section of their web site allows the user a choice between Fedora and Windows. This move to Windows is in just in a certain part of their system. Removing support for Linux web servers would be suicide. Microsoft's web serving numbers aren't going anywhere from this decision.
"it's not about aptitude, it's the way you're viewed" - Galinda
But if you are technology impaired beyond failing to operate a broomstick it doesn't matter what OS you use. Failure will be the outcome.
Retep.
Sounds suspiciously like somneone who should know better is being anti-competitive to me. I trust someone is investigating this very interesting decision properly...
That company is so full of douche bags that they need to change their name to SummersEve.com. Guess which company?
Well, he certainly never bowed to those who endangered people's rights or freedoms. And that's exactly what Go Daddy are doing, by choosing and promoting an insecure platform for what seems like political or money-oriented purposes. This not only shows a lack of IT sense, but also a lack of integrity. Go Daddy just lost my custom; I'll be switching later today.
Microsoft is paying them so as to artificially improve the ratio of "websites (domains) running windows" vs. "total number of domains", as in the Netcraft survey.
Windows is security-enhanced. Linux is just plain secure.
The only reason to do this is for bribe-money from MS. I'm sure in a few years we'll see "... moves back to Linux for parked domains" after a nice little donation from RedHat or whatever.It's just not good for the SOUL, that's all.
So one of several thousands of registars changes OS... is this really that big of a deal?
;)
Now if a big company like IBM were to switch OS, that would be significant!
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
Is it that they are being called because they shut down sites for spamming???
I think that they are a bit slow on canceling spammer domains.
Fight Spammers!
More proof that they don't have the experience (well... knowledge before experience) to maintain the systems they chose, so they ran to something else.
Good? Bad?
Good for them, assuming they have the knowledge to back it up.
Bad for us, because lol LUN1X R00LZ, ANY DISSiDENTS WILL BURN.
Or perhaps it's that we'll l-o-l hax0r their M$ Wind0ze.
(Emphasis on the good... manage what you know, or learn something new and run with it. Either way, just make it work right and securely...)
With MS essentially bribing GoDaddy to make the rather trivial move for their parked domains, you have to wonder just what MS's PR people were thinking.
Will their new slogan be, "Microsoft - where do you want to park today?"
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Remember the TIOBE index is the predominantly the number of people having problems with a language. You usually don't see hundreds of people going out and posting on forums just to mention that they're using the language. Usually it's because they have some arcane problem with it they're hoping to get an answer on. Which explains why Java is king! (j/k, I'm bitter after tracing exceptions, sorry.)
I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. - Hunter S. Thompson
I just dumped GoDaddy for my local linux based small-shop registrar.
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Microsoft must have used its $$$$ to send an EVEN HOTTER chick to the CEO of GoDady.com -- an offer he couldn't refuse...
As soon as she invites all her "friends", GoDaddy will be 100% M$ hosted.
I don't see how the platform godaddy uses for parked domains is much of an issue at all. Parked domain get extremely low traffic, they have no content... why all the fuss?
I'm a godaddy customer - I have simply stayed with them over the last 4-5 years after poor expereinces at buydomains and registrar.com. While I would have issue if there were real services that they provided that went to an OS that had security issues, for example if I was using their blog software or if they had my on a virtual hosting platform... but most everyone that does serious web work hosts themselves or with a professional hosting service, no a registrar like godaddy.
In their favour, the hosting more or less works as intended, but in my experience the hosting software is pretty awful. As soon as my hosting is up I'm off to somewhere else.
GoDaddy is known only for their controversial superbowl ads. They are one of the worst registrars. I was transferring 3 domains away from them to 1and1.com and they put some ir-rational clause saying the domains were last updated(My Address) within the past 30 days and refused to transfer 2 of the domains. ICANN doesn't enforce that law. I called their president's office fought with them as to why did they let one domain transfer go through and held the other two ? They had no answer. Looks like their must be some BUG in their software, apparently easier to blame Microsoft for the same ;-)
How about an "Office Space" edition of VS that arrives in an old fax machine!
And then there is MS Office itself!
You're a genius!
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Actually, MySQL overtook Oracle last year as the number one most popular database and is installed on over 55% of ALL servers (not just web servers).
MySQL still can't hold a candle to OracleDB in terms of features, scalability and on some levels also performance. MySQL's advangate is mostly lower costs. All a lump statistic like that tells you very little. What is probably happening (among other things) is that people using databases are beginning to deploy databases strategically, keeping costs in mind, aggressively using low end solutions where they get away with it and only deploying expensive high end stuff like OacleDB only where it is absolutely needed. Another thing is that more and more websites and small businesses are starting to use database driven solutions, usually this involves relatively basic DB functionality, and the first choice in that arena is not exactly an expensive full featured OracleDB license (again, think costs). This is possibly also why Oracle has been looking into a low end database manufacturer with a healthy market share to buy up so that they can integrate a low end solution into their product line and quickly move into this lower end market. Last I looked they were sniffing around none other than MySQL it self.
Only to idiots, are orders laws.
-- Henning von Tresckow
I changed my domains provider for this reason. I have more domains and no like work in windows. My all servers work in Linux, SunOS and NetBSD.
Microsoft windows just became the biggest parking lot on the information super highway, and they told the press about this?
That Balmer IS a good salesman..
where do u get all that shit from??
if anything thats a blatant lie !!
A single static page for any request to a site isn't exactly the most demanding of jobs for a web server. In fact you could do it with a 20 line bash script. Come to think of it, I did once write a 20 line bash script that punted out a static page, used tcpd to hoick it on to port 80 and had myself a web server that did exactly that.
:)
So it would seem that IIS is about as useful as a 20 line bash script
Why don't racists have the guts to speak their views in public instead of posting as AC's in slashdot forums? Sorry about the offtopic, I just got sick of all the pointless rubbish from fringe nutcases on slashdor (thankfully a minority here).
l'Homme n'est Rien l'Oeuvre Tout: Gustave Flaubert to George Sand
Chris ,
Php Programmers.
Okay...essentially, the core change is that GoDaddy is moving their parked sites from BIND to MS DNS. Curiously, most of the argument here focuses elsewhere (LAMP, IIS, LAMP's components vs alternatives).
I use MS DNS 2003. It's nice. It's easy to use. I enjoy having a GUI built in and supported by the developer in addition to having the power of command line editing. The only thing I wish I could change is that it uses a sequential zone serial number instead of a dated one (ie, instead of 2006032301, 2006032302, 2006032303, it uses a raw format - 1, 2, 3...)
I really don't see what the big deal is...
ACs are modded -6. I don't read you, I don't mod you, I don't see you. Don't like it? Don't be a coward.
Did you mean: what a stunning cunt
http://documents.secureserver.net/show/document.as px?plvid=1&name=hosting_sa
"In addition to transactions entered into by You on Your behalf, You also agree to be bound by the terms of this Agreement for transactions entered into on Your behalf by anyone acting as Your Agent, and transactions entered into by anyone who uses the account You've established with Go Daddy , whether or not the transactions were in Your behalf." (aka hacked)
Those are not community, they are individual people. Are you also saying Microsoft is giving back to OS community when it hires OS developers?
The parked domains are practically worthless properties anyhow.
Whatver MS did for GoDaddy has to look nice on the balance sheet compared to the piss-poor performance of properties that would be better off deleted.
I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
That has absolutely nothing to do with my comment, I was simply pointing out another gotcha that further shows how bad it could be. Though many hosting services have such heavy handed agreements.
Are you suggesting that they give money to everyone who uses the software? ^_^ (Because I wouldn't be too opposed to that.
Google using Linux doesn't make it more viable; it demonstrates Linux's existing viability in a very high-profile way.
I'm not even a Linux fanboy, but really: do your research.
Any sufficiently self-referential snowcloned
'a technology platform that is security-enhanced, highly scalable and easy to manage.'
And the war will last 6 weeks, cost 2 billion dollars and enhance our position in the world.
With the Romans it was lead in the water. Us?
Rather than a brief statement sounding all the world like FUD from a Microsoft brochure, it really would be fascinating to read a detailed technical/MIS article of all the terible experiences they had with linux that justify their decision.
I found it interesting that GoDaddy didn't make a joint announcement with Microsoft on this issue. Nor, is this mentioned on GoDaddy's website. Apparently, GoDaddy didn't think this was that big an announcement. I also noticed that only the nameservers are mentioned (which are relatively few machines), and not the rest of GoDaddy's infrastructure.
.NET stuff. Certainly, if GoDaddy was abandoning Linux, they'd switch their PHP, Ruby, and Perl hosting to Windows too.
.NET hosting, and Microsoft gets to make a big announcement about a big Windows win over Linux.
GoDaddy offers multiple Linux platforms, and their Windows platforms don't offer such services as PHP hosting, Ruby on Rails, or Perl/CGI scripting. Their Windows platforms only do ASP and
I suspect that GoDaddy and Microsoft worked out an agreement where Microsoft would provide free technical assistance, free software, and maybe some hardware if GoDaddy agreed to switch their nameservers from Linux to Windows. GoDaddy would get help setting up
No you're a tool.
My understanding is Google encourages employees to deveote a percentage of each day to their own projects. That can include OSS. That means each day there are people on payroll, paying rent, buying food, etc, who are working on OSS tools.
MSFT hardly encourages it's employees to work on software [specially stuff that runs in BSD or Linux] that they just give away. So it may hire OSS developers but that's just for their talents and not for their ideals.
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
"The Microsoft Solution for Windows-based Hosting supports GoDaddy.com's low-cost, high-value strategy by providing a technology platform that is security-enhanced, highly scalable and easy to manage."
:-)
I haven't the words.
The less confident you are, the more serious you have to act.
looks like no one linked to the gandi post, here it is.
It's stupidity such as this that is causing Linux to start fading into obscurity. Instead of making snide quips, we should be looking at this very closely.
Here we have a real business that began by using Linux as a means of cutting costs. That business has grown and become not only large but, also quite profitable. So, if Linux is "more secure, faster and easier to manage", why would any company decide to drop this "cheaper solution" in favor of Microsoft's? Why are they saying that it is secure and actually easier to manage? Why do they think that they will cut costs or be better off with Windows than with the free solution?
Frankly, this causes me to sit up and take notice! Here we have a company managing hundreds of thousands of domain pages on numerous servers and they say it is easier to manage with IIS! That's worth looking into regardless of whether you are a company that is looking for a server or a fanboy that is resting on his laurels.
I registered a domain with them a few years ago. It made me put in my business name so I made one up. For the next year I got sales calls asking if I'm the business owner of this fake business. I'm _very_ careful about those little privacy checkboxes too. I registered a domain a couple years later with my cell number as the contact. Sure enough, I got sales calls on my cell phone for the next six months (before that I never got one).
The only upside to the whole thing was office depot kept sending coupons to my fake business.
If an officer ever threatens to taze you, say you have a pacemaker.
MS is a company with buketfulls of cash. No news here.
..."
About 5 years ago the german company Wortmann was a prime quality vendor of Laptops with Linux preinstalled (service and all). In the end they where having full page adverts praising their Laptops and Hardware and how well it run's with SuSE Linux. They where making serious inroads in the market. MS just went there and removed all traces of Linux and turned them into what looks like a walking MS commercial. It literally happend overnight.
It goes something like this:
->MS marketing guy notices OSS Vendor that doesn't look like a kid in basement company - by seeing adds or getting intel from system houses reporting XYZ mopping up their area and market with OSS/Linux products.
->MS Marketeer calls alert.
->They either buy into the vendor by strawmen/companies or directly.
->New kid on the board has "real good cash heavy connections to some key MS people".
->MS officals move into meeting with super prime turbo MS gold partner offer as a freebee to warm up and add in a little "we've got serious work to do, we've got 5 customers who want serious MS Infrastructure, it's a high 7 digits all together. We need good people like you, you must help us to help you to get yourselves huge amounts of cash - the cash only MS people can make. But we need to move quick. You'd have to go all-out MS by tomorrow. You can get all the resources for free, just help us do this customer."
->CEO get's excited. Issues decree to remove all mentioning of Linux imediately. Admins and Service Personell can't believe what they're hearing.
->MS training rolls in + MS Gold Partner Release DVDs + Manuals and Gold Partner Hotlines for the bedazzled Unix Admins.
->Company gets rolling with their serious MS pitch to new customers. Does attraktive 180 turns for the ones they where pitching Linux to. "Yes, there's this new product and service, it's all much better, even our Unix Admins are impressed with the service and quick response, TCO is cheaper because this one has more options, You can try it and if you don't like it we move back for free, blah, blah, blah
->1 year later customers have enjoyed prime time MS funded services whilst staying with their good' ole Exchange and not having to go through the tedious switch. Unix Admins take the cash, shut up and OSS is pushed back into the basement and Linux Install Party crowd.
MS is a business. They don't care about software, they care about money. They have the monopoly edge and they use it. Like a sect. MS doesn't turn it's brain on when they do software. They are factually BRAINDEAD when it comes to being smart with software. They couldn't care less. They don't need to. MS goes alive when it's about CASH. And then your way can be a bazillion times better/more secure/easier - they just come and squish you. And you will love it and it doesn't even show a blip on their quarterly report. I know double and triple certified MS trainees who will second exactly that.
If I were MS, I'd do it the same way btw.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Back in my day, the ancient days of IT...three or four years in the dark past, it was big news when a company switched to Linux. These days it's a headline when a company switches to MSFT.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
Google helped deal with IDE controllers.
Google helped improve TCP/IP performance.
I switched from 1and1 to GoDaddy because 1and1 sucked so much - getting to the domain panel in the admin interface sometimes took 5~7 minutes because of how slow their admin system was.
Second, when I needed to change my hosting to a different provider (due to the speed issue), It was like pulling teeth. First, I reset my nameservers and I had to change 1and1 about 5 times in the first two weeks in order to keep them from reverting back (it seemed whenever I even logged into the admin page, it reverted them back). Then when I gave up and transferred my domain registrations, it took a month before their system would issue an Auth code. Never... Never...
But with this recent news I'm not sure if I should evoke a registrar switch...
;-)
Hmmm.... Geek Algebra will clarify this for me I think...
Bad Technical Debugging Skills (a malformed URL?!?!?! PUH-LEEEZ!)
plus
Microsoft ("We'll charge what we want when we want" Service)
plus
(-) Low Margins being the low cost provider
equals
RUN! FOR CHRISSAKES RUN!
Let the race begin!!!! Starters at your marks....
"Don't fear death... fear not living..." -me
And do it every time he decides to derail a legitimate discussion by bringing up US politics.
He's the worst political troll on this site, and I'm happy I finally remembered to foe him.
"The government grants you rights, not the other way around."-- beav007. Yes, these people really exist...
There are a lot of comments here, and I don't want to read them all. So it may be that I am being redundant here. (Don't really care but I feel like talking) :)
"You get what you pay for!"
If a service is bargan-basement then it only seems to me that this service will have a lot of problems. If you just want something simple that you don't care that the service is there all the time, then this is for you. But if you want a stable service that brings your message to as many people as possible, then you want something that is not bargan-basement. Certainly you may get an incredible deal sometimes, but never expect it on anything.
- my $.02? - you can't have it...it's all I have!!
The next security hole found in MS's server will open up thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of machines to control by bot owners. GoDaddy just became bot heaven. The GoDaddy DOS(tm) attack would be truely monsterous.
The only thing I use godaddy for is domain registration / DNS management. Their web site kind of sucks, (at least in firefox). I can't ever seem to log out once I have logged in to change something in DNS, no matter how hard I click the "Logout" link. They are probably just trying to use linux as a scapegoat, and I suspect there are more problems behind the scenes that caused such a dramatic turn.
So basically:
- All the domains that are empty (parked awaiting content) will be served from Windows servers
- All the domains that have content, that somebody cares about, will be served from Linux as before
Gosh, what a victory for Microsoft.
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
How weak is that, just; Whew! Thank God I never used these pussies. Sounds like godaddy has fucked themselves for all the wrong reasons, bummer is those are other peoples domains they're playing around with.
Sounds like GoDaddy is trying to cash in on the lucrative BotNet market by moving to Windows.
So, maybe this is related to security after all.
means higher costs. Better renew your domains now before GoDaddy has to raise it's prices.
It took a real world war to end the airplane's patent wars. - Fâché Rouge -
I think we can safely assume that there will be even more Microsoft ads on GoDaddy's parked domains. I wouldn't be at all surprised if MS paid much more than the going rate for those ads. I wonder if either MS or GoDaddy would care to refute this idle speculation
This is NOT A TROLL, check your facts before modding, mods!
I have a terrible time with go daddy e-mail accounts.
I use them as my out going server and lots of ISP's seem to filter and I just get the mail bounced back saying its black listed. I've called them on it and they say well it's a isp problem. Now if they would just get around to unblocking it..
There's one factor in the open vs. closed source battle that keeps getting overlooked. Open source thrives on two things. First, it is extremely easy for anyone to give it a try. Between open source apps like OpenOffice that are available for Windows to Live CD distros of Linux that can be run by anyone who can burn a CD, the cost of giving them a try is tiny. They don't require an infrastructure of retail sales outlets and various other middlemen. Second, the survival of most open source projects is not dependent on sales.
Open source projects start and thrive in an environment where all they really need is good communication (the Internet) and a chance to gain some mindshare to attract users and developers. Because of the licenses, the projects can outlive individual developers and companies that support them. By driving down transaction costs the cost of starting up an open source project and of its growth are drastically diminished.
Closed source, on the other hand, is tied to the economic fortunes of its owners. Ever stumble on Microsoft's part, including the recent Vista delay, represents a loss or delay of revenue to Microsoft and its partners. Microsoft can weather that storm currently. Not all of its partners can.
Open source will not destroy closed source. It can't. On the other hand, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world. Microsoft is the largest software company. Assuming that the Halloween documents are to be taken seriously, they decided years ago that open source is the number one threat to their business. Since then, they have been completely unable to do anything to significantly slow its spread. Open source projects will outlast their closed source competitors in many cases.
It may seem silly, but I think it is worth transfering your domains away to another service if you disapprove. As a left-leaning individual, I would cease giving business to an organization which, say, started donating to RNC. Similarly, I dislike Microsoft and I do not want to support businesses who support them. All of us who are likewise compelled should inform Go Daddy of our view point and move on. The only question is, what is a good alternative?
Join Tor today!
It won't happen right away, but I'll start migrating all my business away from Godaddy. I'm not looking forward to systems being administered by people that just know how to toy with M$ dialog boxes.
I want a bonifide skilled shop with Unix people doing things intelligently. I also demand no outsourcing.
GoDaddy is not very Linux friendly despite their Linux hosting. Everything but the super deluxe plans has significant constraints that makes most open source CMS/gallery/wikis appear broken.
I tried to build a PHPNuke/Gallery connector so only one login would work across both systems and I could never get gallery to work right. Debug messages:: sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable.
I'm cheap and thats why I picked GoDaddy, I'll admit that. I'm about to move to tikiwiki and it's known as an "unfriendly" host.
Screw GoDaddy's Linux hosting. It's known to be "broken"
Utter bull I'm sad to say. You'd be wise to have sound backup for accusations like that in future, unless you want to be seen as trying to score points by attacking someone respectable.
I used GoDaddy last year to host a website for my kid, and since I program in a MS shop, I chose a windows server. Wouldn't you know, it got hacked. No defacing, but I found a file inside my folder saying that I was hacked.
I immediatly switched to linux and no problems since. GoDaddy just lost a customer. Oh well, they were really slow anyways.
Bought!
That's why.
dont feed the trolls
I've had continous trouble with this domain register, and heartidly don't recommend them.
Ok, godaddy.com is (always has been, recently became, whatever) evil.
Now, name a non-evil domain registrar.
[o]_O
I've tested www.godaddy.com with the w3 validator. The page has no DocType attached, but when set to 4.01 transitional, the validator discovers 495 errors on GoDaddy's homepage only. I'm very surprised that there are browsers that can render this page anyway.....
P&T are entertainers. It's their job to hype things, come up with controversy and make a good show. Naturally, that means that their words are infallible truth.
In the 70s, no one was the least bit racist, and suggesting otherwise is ridiculous. It has NOTHING to do with people wanting to whitewash our past.
Mother Teresa is obviously sadistic because they couldn't afford to get modern medical care for all of India and yet she herself once had an operation or two. Worse, they baptised people who agreed to it on their deathbeds, even though that may have been against their religion. Obviously, it's horrible that they would do something people consented to like that.
Worse, she can probably be blamed for all the failings of Catholics for the past couple millenia or so. I mean, by being Catholic, you automatically assume guilt everything done over the past 2,000 years. You can't merely absolve them of guilt by pointing out that these things were done centuries ago by unrelated people who claimed to believe the same thing and were part of the same, large organization any more than you can claim that all Germans alive today aren't Nazis.
Really, the greatest person ever to live is the one who kept us from starving due to overpopulation. No, the estimates weren't wrong at all, even though they apparently didn't take any sort of mechanisation into account. And clearly the notions that we'd have all been dead by 1990 were completely accurate if they hadn't started making more food due to increased demand.
Speaking of which, we'll all probably die by 2020 due to overpopulation, so be ready.
I recently found out that GANDI has chosen to use a new payment system which redirects one to ones internet banking site (which by itself makes GANDI a prime target for phishing), but that many, as my bank, internet banks use microsoft-only technology on their sites.
:(
So much for registering/renewing domains on GANDI using firefox!
Based on my prior experiences with GoDaddy, I'm not at all surprised that they would agree to such a flash-without-substance arrangement.
Maybe it was the horrifying not-quite-a-job-interview that I had with them, in which they gave me a "pseudo IQ test" (the words of the hiring manager, which is interesting because intelligence testing as a prerequisite for hiring is illegal in the United States), or the fact that the test they gave was administered and scored inconsistently with the type of test it was.
Maybe it's the Orwellian dreary work environment that I witnessed when I went to interview there. (It was worst for the call center peeps, but pretty dungeon-like everywhere else.)
Maybe it's the really (IMHO) offensive ads they ran.
Maybe it's the caliber of people I met there.
Maybe it's the irresponsible way they blacklisted Qwest's e-mail servers for the sites and mail accounts they host; at least one recruiter e-mailed me from an account hosted by them, and when I replied, the e-mail bounced because apparently GoDaddy considered Qwest to be a haven for spammers and zombies. (Kind of funny, when you consider that GoDaddy used to be a spammer's paradise, and probably still is. Pot, kettle, black.)
Whatever the reason, I quickly developed the impression that GoDaddy.com is nothing but a bunch of frat boys who like to play at being IT professionals. People who want to give the illusion of computer literacy and competency, but who don't care about technology as anything other than a means to screw other people out of money.
For a press release that's all about appearances and not about anything of import -- it's for parked domains, for crying out loud, so you know this is something only squatters probably care about -- it fits their MO perfectly. And Microsoft's, not coincidentally.
But hey, maybe all the dough they're getting from Microsoft for this little non-event will help pay for the perpetual party at the GoDaddy frat house... The sad thing is, I'm sure one of the scumbags running the show at GoDaddy figured this Microsoft partnership announcement would actually be good for their image. Whatever their reasons, it's pretty clear they don't value geek cred.
Several people have noted it, but I'm going to again.
This looks like way to pull server percentages toward Microsoft.
Think of the tens of thousands of domains that will be moving from an Apache/Linux server string to an IIS/Microsoft one.
Does it matter that they are, as people have been poking at, just domain name squatters? Not in the least!
When they do transition, expect Microsoft to really push at how they have more market share.
It's just a publicity stunt.
Maybe they are desperate for business and wanted a (little) world-wide attention any way they could get it.
No PR is Bad PR! (they say)
It's not the same thing. Google is paying people to develop OSS software _and contribute the changes back to the community_. I cannot say that Microsoft isn't doing the same thing in some cases (I have no idea, and I'm not trying to make any statement about Microsoft), but the comparison you make is not valid. MS paying a Windows OS developer to write Windows is not quite akin to Google paying Ben Goodger to develop Firefox, which results directly in code contribution to an open source project.
They have always been a Linux/Unix shop. The problem GoDaddy had last year with Parked pages not working on Safari was not a problem at GKG.
They're priced the same as GoDaddy (in most cases). So if security is an issue, switch to GKG!.
The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck, it will be known as the Microsoft Vaccuum Cleaner!
I actually spent some time and found Google really is hiring people to do real Firefox development (well, it's says that on the job application notice). Guess that proves me wrong. I have always thought Firefox developers were hired to make Google toolbar and other Google stuff to work better with Firefox, and not to actually develop Firefox.
No, I am a person that responded by ACTUALLY LOOKING UP SOME INFORMATION about Google hiring people to work with Firefox and admitted being wrong. YOU are a person who WOULD NOT include ANY PROOF of your "understanding" but instead chose to call me a tool.
Now, what does that make you?
People are probably saying what they heard on the Pen and Teller TV show Bullshit. You can find mention of it on wikipedia and the quote that is supposed to be proof. Having actually spent some time living in India at about the same level as the average person (no hotels or special crap and little to no money to spare) I think people are reading too much into the quote at wikipedia, because to me it is saying not to give into greed and let mindsets that put the pursuit of wealth over all else poison your mind. I could be wrong in that and am not reading it in the right context. I never blindly trust the information on bullshit, and take into account that they ignore details or slant things towards their bias (just like anyone alive will).
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.