so what was yer original "point" again? can you sum up your "point" in one or two sentences? the typos didn't interfere with anything you may have been trying to say- we're smart enough to fill in the blanks and cover for a couple mispelled words. i've tried reading your tripe several times now, but i feel dumber for having made the effort. plz help me out here, dull, 'cause you're muddying the waters of an otherwise clear-headed conversation.
and if you don't have a "point", shut the fuck up. apply this to any future posts you may (will) make in the near future.
It has the FEEL of something that was put together by a moron from the ground up. The majordomo-evil idea of setting up a patent-holding company is getting off on the wrong foot. They will buy/license your patent, and then CONSIDER letting you use your own invention for a nominal fee? Fuck these AOL-using assholes, they're giving corporations a bad name, and that's not greasy kid stuff.
what is about sig11 and annemarie et al that rub sensibility the wrong way? mebbe they're the handful in a couple hundred thousand folks who will abuse *any* system in an almost interesting way....
Robert Anton Wilson wrote a book in which one of the characters is desperately trying to convince the other characters that they are all characters in a novel written by RAW. It's an interesting take on self-reference.
When we can portray RealLife(tm) within the engine of a video game, how much more insight will we have into the human condition? Shakespeare had it right way long before this- "All the world's a stage, and we are merely players."
Let's use Occam's razor. Possibilty 1: maybe someone is taking the trouble to affect their writing style trying to come across as someone they're not. Possibility 2: credit where credit is due, let's hear it for Web Ferret.
There's much to be said for a randomly selected governing body. It has the effect of dumbing-down the system to the lowest common denominator. Good for making things simple and straightforward, bad because well, imagine how dumb the average american is, then figure that half the population is dumber than that, and you want these people running the place?
Politics seems to be hard-wired into the human head. Probly it carried great evolutionary weight, helping select the fittest of the species carry leadership genes forward. Why not let them that have mad politico skillz use the gifts god gave 'em?
And on a third almost unrelated tangent, what about Assassination Politics? It combines stuff like digital cash, secret bank accounts, the lottery, and strong Libertarian beliefs. Do check it out! http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.26/jimbell.htm
Of course wire everything. Until we have transmission of power through the air, you may as well include some data pipes if you're gonna be digging up the yard anyway. Seems like the best idea may be to even include some extra space for those vaccuum tube delivery things so you can send to the kitchen for a fresh drink and it'll swoosh back to you. No, wait. To me;j
Absolutely the skillz transfer. What was the original poster's point again? Developing talent in an obscure area is scary? How many hours did I blow that saxophone "practicing"? For what? All it got me was exposure to lots of strange folks who also loved music. There's a reason it's called the online gaming community.
And I still espouse my theory of FPS as unappreciated art form. Look at motion pictures of the early 20th century. There's a *lot* of potential there, not limited to the mid-century Hollywood community that became the focus of a communist hunt just a few years after coming to power. This could be the same movie, folks.
Plus Also: the gamers have been THE driving (pun intended) force behind the tremendous increase in rendering capabilities of today's graphics cards. Well, the gamers and the porners....:)
I'm going through (hopefully not) the same thing with internet Unreal Tournament. There are always the newbies, racists, cheaters, and people who generally make everybody else's experience less fun. Probly it's too much effort to learn the game at home and then go online where you treat others with a modicum of respect.
We can't do it in meatspace, why expect cyberspace to be any different? What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding? We can put men on the moooon, but when it comes to the simple things, like living together? HAH!
I've been playing UT since it came out, and have tried to keep the profanity to a minimum, along with encouraging respect for other players. Human nature will do what it will, though. Come play and make it better. It'll be fun to get fragged by you:)
Of course beer wants to be free. This was one of the motivations for humans settling down and becoming agrarians instead of hunters and gatherers. There was a time when every farmer worth his hops knew how to brew beer with the stuff he grew himself. What do you think the "Whiskey Rebellion" was all about? Whiskey wants to be free, too:)
From the corporate site:
"RadioShack operates 7,100 company-owned stores and dealer franchises nationwide. RadioShack serves more than one million customers each day. In fact, 94 percent of all Americans live or work within 5 minutes of a RadioShack store or dealer. "
Now *that's* an install base! With a little more exposure from the barcode-reading cat, it's about time that this Intellectual Property issue get a little better coverage in the mainstream media beyond the napster crap.
There's an idealogical war starting over control and distribution of information. You'll find me on the front lines.
No case from the store, just a plastic baggie. My guy didn't even ask for my address- can he get fired for that? I'm SURE it's a punishable offense there....
Here's hoping that ColonCat really did have consumers' best interests at heart, and wasn't playing some Tom and Jerry jerkaround like it looks like they're doing. crap.
Maybe it'll be more useful in a few weeks? What does one use these things for? Maybe we didn't know we needed a personal CatScanner;j
The combustion engine is also called an "Otto" engine after Nicolaus Otto. The guy with a bright idea for the roads was named John McAdam, and the road became known as "macadam". No sources I've seen have said whether either man became rich, but I haven't looked very hard....
Given the choice between rich and famous, choose rich. -Bill Murray
TWISI, "under the GPL" means there's nothing stopping M$ from rewriting a linux kernel as long as credit is given where credit is due. The problem is in author's intentions.
The name Linux and Linus have been forever inextricably interlinked. It can be generally assumed that any changes to Linux will move Linux closer to the author's vision. When we don't have the same degree of control over the process of dissemination that Linus did, it's possible that changes to our work will take a different direction than one we'd intended. But by the GPL credit will still be given to the original author.
The original poster's concern seems to be the consequences of letting other people play with your toys. You may not always like what happens to them;j
Linux as an operating system can and should handle all of the tasks we're asking of a desktop computer today. The mainstream, easy to use OS will help me play UT (have you heard about the unappreciated art form that is FPS?) Don't count out games as one of the driving (pun intended:) forces behind the growing demand for big iron power in little iron boxes. I see little danger in Linux becoming a "gaming" OS.
I'd hate to see a bunch of punkass newbie kids come in and rune the powerful thinking man's little slice of heaven;j
Thank you for taking the time to explain about freenet. When the subject was first brought up, it sounded like a pipe dream akin to the Open Windows project. After reading more info at http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ it still sounds vaporish. From the FAQ:
"On Freenet, whatever you do, your identity is still revealed to the first Freenet Node you talk to. The anonymity that Freenet offers is really just obscurity in the fact that it is hard to prove that your node wasn't proxying the request for or insert of data on behalf of somebody else (who might also just have been proxying it)." "to attain true anonymity you have to send the message through an external network of anonymous remailers first "
This is what originally made me think of the meta-web anonymity issues. Freenet is taking us no further along than non-trivial implentations of encryption. And as for removing or censoring information, isn't the DeCSS mirroring phenomenon proof enough that it's really hard to whack *all* the moles?
This Freenet thing came to my attention a few months ago in a discussion on Web Politics. I saw it as just another level removed from the ideals of the Internet- the unrestricted exchange of information between computers. Freenet seems redundant since it's based on the same principles of file transfer. It's like a "meta-internet". What's to keep us from needing a "meta-freenet" down the road? Is it the anonymity? Is it the security? Both are available through the Internet, right? I'm not *trying* to be thickheaded about this, just tell me what the differences and advantages are.
Didnt realise what an idiot the dull blade was until i saw the 50 comments he has posted in the last couple weeks. I was in the middle of lambasting him directly when i ran across this thread and couldn't resist adding to it. Sorry i even replied to dumb bull's post. It was before i'd gotten this far in the story. Thought he may have something worthwhile to contribute. dull blade indeed. More like dim bulb. Yer website is really, really weak. And yer comments are vastly weaker. If you EVER get a job, plz tell me so i don't have to deal with the nincompoops who hired you. pax anyway;j
ok then. i almost follow you. so how would you respond to the question of whether Harrison Ford, in "Witness", did the deed with the Amish girl at the end of the film? there is much room for speculation here. i've asked this before and am really interested in what you and your english teacher/movie buff cronies think about this particular ambiguity, especially since he was in both movies, and since you seem to have such strong feelings on the subject of subjectivism. pax
The comment that each viewer must decide for himself the "meaning" of the story, or whether the Prisoner was responsible for the Village reminds me of another excellent Harrison Ford vehicle, "Witness". At the end, did he and the heroine get it on? (Admittedly, I am fishing for other people's thoughts here, 'cause I *still* haven't made up my mind on _this_ one:) pax
good to hear from you, signail11. food for thought. unfortunately, it's more like whole-wheat cracker food than steak and potato food. zerokelvin, in his inimitable offensive style, made the same observation. i understand that we have to respect the rule of law and the authority of the judicial system or society will break down. at the same time, it's up to us to QUESTION authority (not DEFY like signal's sig- it's a subtle yet important difference) and to keep an eye on those bozos. the gov't has no more power than what We the People give it.
if your original point was "obey the rulings, even the ones you don't agree with" why didn't you say that? the post came across as wishywashy, like yer others where you are hedging every bet except the technical ones. while you are contributing to the conversation, i felt dumber after reading "If the judge had gone the other way?" and had to clear my air.
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so what was yer original "point" again? can you sum up your "point" in one or two sentences? the typos didn't interfere with anything you may have been trying to say- we're smart enough to fill in the blanks and cover for a couple mispelled words. i've tried reading your tripe several times now, but i feel dumber for having made the effort. plz help me out here, dull, 'cause you're muddying the waters of an otherwise clear-headed conversation.
and if you don't have a "point", shut the fuck up. apply this to any future posts you may (will) make in the near future.
peace, fred
It has the FEEL of something that was put together by a moron from the ground up. The majordomo-evil idea of setting up a patent-holding company is getting off on the wrong foot. They will buy/license your patent, and then CONSIDER letting you use your own invention for a nominal fee? Fuck these AOL-using assholes, they're giving corporations a bad name, and that's not greasy kid stuff.
what is about sig11 and annemarie et al that rub sensibility the wrong way? mebbe they're the handful in a couple hundred thousand folks who will abuse *any* system in an almost interesting way....
Robert Anton Wilson wrote a book in which one of the characters is desperately trying to convince the other characters that they are all characters in a novel written by RAW. It's an interesting take on self-reference.
When we can portray RealLife(tm) within the engine of a video game, how much more insight will we have into the human condition? Shakespeare had it right way long before this- "All the world's a stage, and we are merely players."
as it turns out, yes, it IS a small world :)
trevor's still a twat :)
user 33456.
kudos, guys. that's big brass ones.
Let's use Occam's razor. Possibilty 1: maybe someone is taking the trouble to affect their writing style trying to come across as someone they're not. Possibility 2: credit where credit is due, let's hear it for Web Ferret.
I don't think it's a "Bruce Perens" issue.
pax
There's much to be said for a randomly selected governing body. It has the effect of dumbing-down the system to the lowest common denominator. Good for making things simple and straightforward, bad because well, imagine how dumb the average american is, then figure that half the population is dumber than that, and you want these people running the place?
Politics seems to be hard-wired into the human head. Probly it carried great evolutionary weight, helping select the fittest of the species carry leadership genes forward. Why not let them that have mad politico skillz use the gifts god gave 'em?
And on a third almost unrelated tangent, what about Assassination Politics? It combines stuff like digital cash, secret bank accounts, the lottery, and strong Libertarian beliefs. Do check it out! http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.26/jimbell.htm
Of course wire everything. Until we have transmission of power through the air, you may as well include some data pipes if you're gonna be digging up the yard anyway. Seems like the best idea may be to even include some extra space for those vaccuum tube delivery things so you can send to the kitchen for a fresh drink and it'll swoosh back to you. No, wait. To me ;j
Absolutely the skillz transfer. What was the original poster's point again? Developing talent in an obscure area is scary? How many hours did I blow that saxophone "practicing"? For what? All it got me was exposure to lots of strange folks who also loved music. There's a reason it's called the online gaming community.
:)
And I still espouse my theory of FPS as unappreciated art form. Look at motion pictures of the early 20th century. There's a *lot* of potential there, not limited to the mid-century Hollywood community that became the focus of a communist hunt just a few years after coming to power. This could be the same movie, folks.
Plus Also: the gamers have been THE driving (pun intended) force behind the tremendous increase in rendering capabilities of today's graphics cards. Well, the gamers and the porners....
I'm going through (hopefully not) the same thing with internet Unreal Tournament. There are always the newbies, racists, cheaters, and people who generally make everybody else's experience less fun. Probly it's too much effort to learn the game at home and then go online where you treat others with a modicum of respect.
:)
We can't do it in meatspace, why expect cyberspace to be any different? What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding? We can put men on the moooon, but when it comes to the simple things, like living together? HAH!
I've been playing UT since it came out, and have tried to keep the profanity to a minimum, along with encouraging respect for other players. Human nature will do what it will, though. Come play and make it better. It'll be fun to get fragged by you
Of course beer wants to be free. This was one of the motivations for humans settling down and becoming agrarians instead of hunters and gatherers. There was a time when every farmer worth his hops knew how to brew beer with the stuff he grew himself. What do you think the "Whiskey Rebellion" was all about? Whiskey wants to be free, too :)
From the corporate site:
"RadioShack operates 7,100 company-owned stores and dealer franchises nationwide. RadioShack serves more than one million customers each day. In fact, 94 percent of all Americans live or work within 5 minutes of a RadioShack store or dealer. "
Now *that's* an install base! With a little more exposure from the barcode-reading cat, it's about time that this Intellectual Property issue get a little better coverage in the mainstream media beyond the napster crap.
There's an idealogical war starting over control and distribution of information. You'll find me on the front lines.
No case from the store, just a plastic baggie. My guy didn't even ask for my address- can he get fired for that? I'm SURE it's a punishable offense there....
;j
Here's hoping that ColonCat really did have consumers' best interests at heart, and wasn't playing some Tom and Jerry jerkaround like it looks like they're doing. crap.
Maybe it'll be more useful in a few weeks? What does one use these things for? Maybe we didn't know we needed a personal CatScanner
The combustion engine is also called an "Otto" engine after Nicolaus Otto. The guy with a bright idea for the roads was named John McAdam, and the road became known as "macadam". No sources I've seen have said whether either man became rich, but I haven't looked very hard....
Given the choice between rich and famous, choose rich. -Bill Murray
TWISI, "under the GPL" means there's nothing stopping M$ from rewriting a linux kernel as long as credit is given where credit is due. The problem is in author's intentions.
;j
The name Linux and Linus have been forever inextricably interlinked. It can be generally assumed that any changes to Linux will move Linux closer to the author's vision. When we don't have the same degree of control over the process of dissemination that Linus did, it's possible that changes to our work will take a different direction than one we'd intended. But by the GPL credit will still be given to the original author.
The original poster's concern seems to be the consequences of letting other people play with your toys. You may not always like what happens to them
Standard Linux Troll Response #41:
;j
Linux as an operating system can and should handle all of the tasks we're asking of a desktop computer today. The mainstream, easy to use OS will help me play UT (have you heard about the unappreciated art form that is FPS?) Don't count out games as one of the driving (pun intended:) forces behind the growing demand for big iron power in little iron boxes. I see little danger in Linux becoming a "gaming" OS.
I'd hate to see a bunch of punkass newbie kids come in and rune the powerful thinking man's little slice of heaven
Thank you for taking the time to explain about freenet. When the subject was first brought up, it sounded like a pipe dream akin to the Open Windows project. After reading more info at http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ it still sounds vaporish. From the FAQ:
"On Freenet, whatever you do, your identity is still revealed to the first Freenet Node you talk to. The anonymity that Freenet offers is really just obscurity in the fact that it is hard to prove that your node wasn't proxying the request for or insert of data on behalf of somebody else (who might also just have been proxying it)."
"to attain true anonymity you have to send the message through an external network of anonymous remailers first "
This is what originally made me think of the meta-web anonymity issues. Freenet is taking us no further along than non-trivial implentations of encryption. And as for removing or censoring information, isn't the DeCSS mirroring phenomenon proof enough that it's really hard to whack *all* the moles?
I remain unconvinced.
This Freenet thing came to my attention a few months ago in a discussion on Web Politics. I saw it as just another level removed from the ideals of the Internet- the unrestricted exchange of information between computers. Freenet seems redundant since it's based on the same principles of file transfer. It's like a "meta-internet". What's to keep us from needing a "meta-freenet" down the road? Is it the anonymity? Is it the security? Both are available through the Internet, right? I'm not *trying* to be thickheaded about this, just tell me what the differences and advantages are.
Didnt realise what an idiot the dull blade was until i saw the 50 comments he has posted in the last couple weeks. I was in the middle of lambasting him directly when i ran across this thread and couldn't resist adding to it. Sorry i even replied to dumb bull's post. It was before i'd gotten this far in the story. Thought he may have something worthwhile to contribute. dull blade indeed. More like dim bulb. Yer website is really, really weak. And yer comments are vastly weaker. If you EVER get a job, plz tell me so i don't have to deal with the nincompoops who hired you. pax anyway ;j
ok then. i almost follow you. so how would you respond to the question of whether Harrison Ford, in "Witness", did the deed with the Amish girl at the end of the film? there is much room for speculation here. i've asked this before and am really interested in what you and your english teacher/movie buff cronies think about this particular ambiguity, especially since he was in both movies, and since you seem to have such strong feelings on the subject of subjectivism. pax
The comment that each viewer must decide for himself the "meaning" of the story, or whether the Prisoner was responsible for the Village reminds me of another excellent Harrison Ford vehicle, "Witness". At the end, did he and the heroine get it on? (Admittedly, I am fishing for other people's thoughts here, 'cause I *still* haven't made up my mind on _this_ one :) pax
kudos! this is the funniest thing i've seen all day! laughed so hard i almost puked!
(of course, i just woke up about an hour ago....)
pax
good to hear from you, signail11. food for thought. unfortunately, it's more like whole-wheat cracker food than steak and potato food. zerokelvin, in his inimitable offensive style, made the same observation. i understand that we have to respect the rule of law and the authority of the judicial system or society will break down. at the same time, it's up to us to QUESTION authority (not DEFY like signal's sig- it's a subtle yet important difference) and to keep an eye on those bozos. the gov't has no more power than what We the People give it.
if your original point was "obey the rulings, even the ones you don't agree with" why didn't you say that? the post came across as wishywashy, like yer others where you are hedging every bet except the technical ones. while you are contributing to the conversation, i felt dumber after reading "If the judge had gone the other way?" and had to clear my air.
pax