Rate Plan Details Included Data 5 GB Additional data $0.00048/KB Canadian Data $0.015/KB International Data $0.0195/KB
That is probably what they are told.
BUT...
Read it closer
That 5GB is still US only. What is included is a whooping 100MB. For $49 dollars more than 5GB US plan. If they actually explain that do they still sell any?
I say the rep leaves out this little detail. Afterall i had a sprint rep flatout lie about a package he was selling me when i asked point blank.
I believe when i looked these plans up a couple days ago (slashdot is a tad slow again) you have to add an '5GB north american data plan'
That 5GB is still US only however. The 'North American' portion is 100MB of data they add on. This ONLY costs $49 more than the 5GB US plan !! Almost twice as much to be able to send a few emails home. Pretty sad when stamps are cheaper than your email...Burn to CD and overnight your letter and photos home. How long to use up 100MB surfing slashdot i wonder...
10 to 1 says rep does not spell this out very well if you call and ask about it. How many of these plans could they sell if they did?
at&t will ask for $2000 and settle for $200 and still make over 50% what do you bet? Nice business model if you have the balls.
PS. Please use Vancouver B.C. to refer to that other Vancouver;)
(0) You also must publicly disclose in a reproducible manner the method(s) used to win the challenge.
You think the 3 letter agencies are going to tell us their secrets for $40 ?!?!? You think the professional recovery companies will either?
Since the consensus is that you will to disassemble it to some extent that pretty much wraps it up. The possible 'fame' is the only reason left and noone seems to know these people so that 'fame' doe not seem valuable enough.
Perhaps if Google sponsored it and you get your name on the home page for a few days and a nifty Google logo name thingie....
Still won't answer if the alphabet soup guys can do it tho. Maybe $10k some else might try and prove it possible that they could.
The cat, however, will simply stay attached to your leg til your skin peels away....
lol, we actually had a cat do that to a dog that got in pissed in its yard. He jumped on its back and dug in...dog got out of the yard, and the street, and the block:)
Is there even a media drawer or something to organize and store USB drives in? Do i just toss all my movies into a drawer in a random pile? Is it labeled? It does not appear to be labeled with movie. Would label be readable if stacked nicely in a storage cabinet which may or maynot exist? Doubtful unless stored sideways...taking up a much room as a DVD.
or
Some years from now it takes 2 hours to dig thru a stack of USB keys to find the right one.
A cheap gimmick at the moment that is quite expensive. no thanks
But i want to know more about buying the upgrades before i get wrapped up in a new game of this level. Seems to be zero info. $2, $20, $$$ at least they could say from $x to $y but it seems you have to plunk down at least $20 to even find out:(
Might be worth a try since it seems to limit the idiots a tad. If i can ever get my wheel calibrated correctly.
I wonder how they 'require' a wheel? Does it check? That implies only certain wheels. Mine is not really name brand and the company only does profession sims now and bailed on the retail altogether. And do i have to actually use it? lol, faster with joystick usually:)
Funny timing, i just tried out my wheel last night after a year.
lol, i really don't need anymore junk i suppose unless you have an LVP floating around:) I have a soft spot for Wang since writing a 'online' version of battleship for ours. ASCII (more or less...ok, less) over a 300 baud modem FTW:) Victim of bit-rot i fear i only had one copy left and even a Wang disk is not totally indestructable.
I do think the picture frame mentioned above is worth a shot in addition to other media.
Now try that with a 25 year-old 3-1/2" floppy. Not sure i would bet on 1 out of 10. The newer the format the shorter the lifespan it seems as densities increase:(
I had a failure rate of about 5% on 5-1/4" but at least twice that on 3-1/2" disks trying to transfer my old DOS stuff:(
Like someone else said, maybe several formats and/or many copies. 1 of 10 DVDs might survive.
hehe, 25 years ago we used a Wang 10MB removable platter for storage. Good luck with reading that. I have never seen the drive come up on eBay and the shipping alone would be several hundred plus adding a 20 amp circuit to plug it into:) Only a handful of working systems in US including mine.
With the zillions of USB devices around they MAY make it that far. That Wang did make it 15+ years cause there were (relatively) alot of them installed. A SATA CD drive or HD might work. I also think the IDE drive is the least likely choice, it is only hanging on because of the CD/DVD drives:(
I imagine any of them would be available second hand however due to sheer numbers now. HAving one out of thousands is a ways from finding one of 100's of millions in 25 years. Toss both a CD and thumbdrive in there and call it a day. Hmm, on second thought will the media itself be readable at that age? CDR probably won't make it. No idea on thumbdrive lifespan. Maybe a HD afterall, should be able to dig up (oops, bad pun) something to run it somewhere. Will a modern HD even store data that long?
Not only is the Global Hawk huge, this thing apparently IS the size of a fighter (or BIGGER!) with 'upto' 18 meter wingspan. No idea why 'upto' is needed, maybe they lost their tape measure.
I don't know about the birds in your area but the ones around here are a bit smaller than 18 meters....
Invariably these things are really slow. Radar? Perhaps one should just look up to find it instead. (i did assume upto 18 meters doesn't actually mean 1 meter!)
This isn't the toy Rc plane you buy for 19.95 and flies for 3 minutes ya know;)
It sounded like one of the 3 (or 10 depending on how you read it) chutes added to clear the airplane failed. It takes a chute to clear the plane if you drop it out the back door?!? I don't really get that part and besides shouldn't you design a drop that doesn't add components that aren't going to be on the real deal?
Have you heard how some blacks talk with/about each other in private? I only went to one family get-together with my very black SO for that reason.
So they are terrorizing their own relatives and neighbors ? That would give one a lower impression of them than a simple racist would hold wouldn't it? Or is it OK if they call their neighbor a nigger because they are all black. Is that fair?
At least they didn't talk about me (being very white) but still quite uncomfortable. And left me with nothing to add to conversations as every other word seemed to be nigger and I wasn't about to jump in. Seemed quite rude to me, but the food was good.
Hmm must be a seperate setting to add my lines back in in Idle . This section is strange:/
lol, the other window open on my machine right now is a terminal emulator set for WYSE60 to run our stupid accounting system. I would rather have the real thing but all the vendor purchasing info,etc not to mention email is on websites or windows (or both:/) so people still need a real computer.
The training class we took in 2004 for it was on the real deal tho...
Only takes a 2.5GHz HT windows box to emulate...um nothing?!?
lol, yup we had a 3MHz? machine with 512MB ram that 7 people could log in to...provided you turned up the air conditioning first;) I still have the Hard Drive, it still weighs more than me.
I have a user that wanted the green on black for our current accounting program when i showed the vintage look.
I think 2 whole emails/conversations/ whatever was kinda thin also.
The basketball players are amateur? because they are on vacation this week?
Many athletes get paid for a winning a medal including US and Canada... Phelps should have a couple hundred grand in pocket change by now.
Many certainly get something as they are training full time, they beg for dinner on the street after training perhaps?
Irrelevant anyway as you said there is still more money later on often times and that wouldn't change either way. Even without any money at all some are still going to want to be the best at any cost.
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Rate Plan Details
Included Data 5 GB
Additional data $0.00048/KB
Canadian Data $0.015/KB
International Data $0.0195/KB
That is probably what they are told.
BUT...
Read it closer
That 5GB is still US only. What is included is a whooping 100MB. For $49 dollars more than 5GB US plan. If they actually explain that do they still sell any?
I say the rep leaves out this little detail. Afterall i had a sprint rep flatout lie about a package he was selling me when i asked point blank.
I believe when i looked these plans up a couple days ago (slashdot is a tad slow again) you have to add an '5GB north american data plan'
That 5GB is still US only however. The 'North American' portion is 100MB of data they add on. This ONLY costs $49 more than the 5GB US plan !! Almost twice as much to be able to send a few emails home. Pretty sad when stamps are cheaper than your email...Burn to CD and overnight your letter and photos home. How long to use up 100MB surfing slashdot i wonder...
10 to 1 says rep does not spell this out very well if you call and ask about it. How many of these plans could they sell if they did?
at&t will ask for $2000 and settle for $200 and still make over 50% what do you bet? Nice business model if you have the balls.
PS. Please use Vancouver B.C. to refer to that other Vancouver ;)
Forgot a biggie
(0) You also must publicly disclose in a reproducible manner the method(s) used to win the challenge.
You think the 3 letter agencies are going to tell us their secrets for $40 ?!?!? You think the professional recovery companies will either?
Since the consensus is that you will to disassemble it to some extent that pretty much wraps it up. The possible 'fame' is the only reason left and noone seems to know these people so that 'fame' doe not seem valuable enough.
Perhaps if Google sponsored it and you get your name on the home page for a few days and a nifty Google logo name thingie....
Still won't answer if the alphabet soup guys can do it tho. Maybe $10k some else might try and prove it possible that they could.
Not sure on rabbits
The cat, however, will simply stay attached to your leg til your skin peels away....
lol, we actually had a cat do that to a dog that got in pissed in its yard. He jumped on its back and dug in...dog got out of the yard, and the street, and the block :)
ok, probably a girl i suppose.
Doesn't someone read this stuff before it gets to front page?
Seriously, what is there to discuss besides the lack of anything to discuss?
Yup, send that guy back to 7th grade english class please. Seems to have entirely skipped the part about supporting the premise you start with.
I know we don't need articles that need 20 years of education to read but a least a couple years worth would be nice.
Is there even a media drawer or something to organize and store USB drives in? Do i just toss all my movies into a drawer in a random pile? Is it labeled? It does not appear to be labeled with movie. Would label be readable if stacked nicely in a storage cabinet which may or maynot exist? Doubtful unless stored sideways...taking up a much room as a DVD.
or
Some years from now it takes 2 hours to dig thru a stack of USB keys to find the right one.
A cheap gimmick at the moment that is quite expensive. no thanks
Very interested...
But i want to know more about buying the upgrades before i get wrapped up in a new game of this level. Seems to be zero info. $2, $20, $$$ at least they could say from $x to $y but it seems you have to plunk down at least $20 to even find out :(
Might be worth a try since it seems to limit the idiots a tad. If i can ever get my wheel calibrated correctly.
I wonder how they 'require' a wheel? Does it check? That implies only certain wheels. Mine is not really name brand and the company only does profession sims now and bailed on the retail altogether. And do i have to actually use it? lol, faster with joystick usually :)
Funny timing, i just tried out my wheel last night after a year.
umm, which computer and where ;)
lol, i really don't need anymore junk i suppose unless you have an LVP floating around :) I have a soft spot for Wang since writing a 'online' version of battleship for ours. ASCII (more or less...ok, less) over a 300 baud modem FTW :) Victim of bit-rot i fear i only had one copy left and even a Wang disk is not totally indestructable.
I do think the picture frame mentioned above is worth a shot in addition to other media.
"I could read a 5 1/4 floppy disk today,"
Maybe. 1 out of 5-10 probably after 25 years.
Now try that with a 25 year-old 3-1/2" floppy. Not sure i would bet on 1 out of 10. The newer the format the shorter the lifespan it seems as densities increase :(
I had a failure rate of about 5% on 5-1/4" but at least twice that on 3-1/2" disks trying to transfer my old DOS stuff :(
Like someone else said, maybe several formats and/or many copies. 1 of 10 DVDs might survive.
hehe, 25 years ago we used a Wang 10MB removable platter for storage. Good luck with reading that. I have never seen the drive come up on eBay and the shipping alone would be several hundred plus adding a 20 amp circuit to plug it into :) Only a handful of working systems in US including mine.
With the zillions of USB devices around they MAY make it that far. That Wang did make it 15+ years cause there were (relatively) alot of them installed. A SATA CD drive or HD might work. I also think the IDE drive is the least likely choice, it is only hanging on because of the CD/DVD drives :(
I imagine any of them would be available second hand however due to sheer numbers now. HAving one out of thousands is a ways from finding one of 100's of millions in 25 years. Toss both a CD and thumbdrive in there and call it a day. Hmm, on second thought will the media itself be readable at that age? CDR probably won't make it. No idea on thumbdrive lifespan. Maybe a HD afterall, should be able to dig up (oops, bad pun) something to run it somewhere. Will a modern HD even store data that long?
Try Chuck-E-Cheese's i think they still license it ;)
lol, and even then reality TV needs 6 people or more, plus artificial events, plus a bunch of time to produce 1 hour of entertainment.
The first couple pages did sound like an 8th grade what-I-did report at best all right.
Not only is the Global Hawk huge, this thing apparently IS the size of a fighter (or BIGGER!) with 'upto' 18 meter wingspan. No idea why 'upto' is needed, maybe they lost their tape measure.
I don't know about the birds in your area but the ones around here are a bit smaller than 18 meters....
Invariably these things are really slow. Radar? Perhaps one should just look up to find it instead. (i did assume upto 18 meters doesn't actually mean 1 meter!)
This isn't the toy Rc plane you buy for 19.95 and flies for 3 minutes ya know ;)
It sounded like one of the 3 (or 10 depending on how you read it) chutes added to clear the airplane failed. It takes a chute to clear the plane if you drop it out the back door?!? I don't really get that part and besides shouldn't you design a drop that doesn't add components that aren't going to be on the real deal?
Well if it is like our 20 year old system noone knows how to program it.
Including the local Toshiba shop :(
Even after i added phones with a display so you don't have to read binary from the blinky lights, lol.
I just hope that isn't a default setting that can get back out....
So each of the 4 wives get half your salary right? :(
"When you call a Black person "nigger""
Define 'you' please...
Is that white people?
How about other blacks?
Or did you just assume everyone here is white?
Have you heard how some blacks talk with/about each other in private? I only went to one family get-together with my very black SO for that reason.
So they are terrorizing their own relatives and neighbors ? That would give one a lower impression of them than a simple racist would hold wouldn't it? Or is it OK if they call their neighbor a nigger because they are all black. Is that fair?
At least they didn't talk about me (being very white) but still quite uncomfortable. And left me with nothing to add to conversations as every other word seemed to be nigger and I wasn't about to jump in. Seemed quite rude to me, but the food was good.
Hmm must be a seperate setting to add my lines back in in Idle . This section is strange :/
I found my FM antenna works better than either set of rabbit ears to get a signal inside. Brick and plaster and metal cabinets, oh my... :(
Sounds like you have a decent antenna tho. May be stuck with cable.
lol, the other window open on my machine right now is a terminal emulator set for WYSE60 to run our stupid accounting system. I would rather have the real thing but all the vendor purchasing info,etc not to mention email is on websites or windows (or both :/) so people still need a real computer.
The training class we took in 2004 for it was on the real deal tho...
Only takes a 2.5GHz HT
windows box to emulate...um nothing?!?
Isn't progress grand?
lol, yup we had a 3MHz? machine with 512MB ram that 7 people could log in to...provided you turned up the air conditioning first ;) I still have the Hard Drive, it still weighs more than me.
I have a user that wanted the green on black for our current accounting program when i showed the vintage look.
I think 2 whole emails/conversations/ whatever was kinda thin also.
The basketball players are amateur? because they are on vacation this week?
Many athletes get paid for a winning a medal including US and Canada... Phelps should have a couple hundred grand in pocket change by now.
Many certainly get something as they are training full time, they beg for dinner on the street after training perhaps?
Irrelevant anyway as you said there is still more money later on often times and that wouldn't change either way. Even without any money at all some are still going to want to be the best at any cost.
lol, i was picturing 8 of us going headfirst into the wall trying to swim 200m :)
Good luck finding marathon runners...finish line would be a lonely place!