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In this week's Disagree Mail, I try to show the range of messages I get. It's not all angry or insane, sometimes it's sent to us for no apparent reason. We start off a little mad, slip into a whole bunch of crazy and finish with someone who has a complaint about racism at his favorite restaurant. Read below to get started. The last sentence in this one is what sold me.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, ******** wrote:
"I have been blocked from Slashdot. I have done nothing worthy of being banned and if you would take your head out of your ass long enough you would realize it! I have to put up with this kind of shit at work but I won't put up with it here! so here's what I demand you do: Apologize to me, both here and in a letter. Apologize to my isp, I called at yelled at them yesterday thinking it was their fault. Finally, I want a written promise that you will never do this to me or anyone else again. If you do not meet these demands in 10 business days, I will be forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know to tell them of how you treat innocent users or reading my news else where. Your move asshole!"


I've often wondered to myself, what would you do if someone who stole from the FBI found out you were a human computer? Thanks to this woman I still don't know.

On Fri, 30 Nov, ****** wrote:
"I'm in search for one of your representatives, or National Security. I have been able to read ********** mind. I showed up at *********, in Eugene, Oregon and let him know about the money that he stole from government agencies, including the FBI, which ironically protects him. He thought I was undercover or believed I was a human computer; which he still may believe. He witnesses that his computers talk to me, as if I were one of them. I can tell what program his computers are on and what they are interlocking with most of the time. He gave me a 400 million dollar check that day, as I sat there reading his mind explaining to him what I knew. At that point he had 8-10 billion dollars of government money/funding hidden away. But after the planes went down he stole over a 100 billion. He used Mike's pin# and password to get into National Security. He helped himself into instruments and institutions, and began using them incorrectly and illegally. I am offering National Security or any Representative a lot of my money to help me put this man away. It seems he is being protected by the forces I need. He is station #3 of the HAARP Project and I'm in search for anyone ready to earn a lot of money; for actually representing the United States of America the Right Way. He's been looking into the minds of his people and brainwashing them, so he will not be seen. I can read his mind faster than any instrument, and ironically he seems he has to answer my questions like I was a machine. When I listen, I can hear him telling people he's playing God and to digest this information; or to Change their mind. Another one he uses, line one--, line two--, line three--, Lock and Load, which also seems to convince people that he is innocent. He changes the information nightly so he won't be seen, for he is a computer programmer as you will soon see. I've even tried try to get the HAARP to tune into me, so they could see me which would see him. This is just the beginning of what I know. Eugene, Oregon's FBI seem to be full of idiots or his "Change Your mind Method" is working pretty damn good. Right now I get denied as they listen to him and not me. But COME ON PEOPLE, He wrote me a $400 Million dollar check. (SO, WAKE UP! FBI, because you are obviously, virtually blind),. This Nation seems to be lacking people like me. That can discover people like ********** and his black market industry."


The next is a bit long. I'm not sure why this was sent to us or what he thought we were going to do about it. He might have a legitimate complaint but even with the vast power of the internet I can't make racist people stay away from restaurants. Calling them terrorists is a bit of a stretch too.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, ******* wrote:
Hello info@ostg.com, Happy New Year to you. Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white terrorist in ****** on December 30. The reason I'm posting you is to seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this devilish had happened to you?

This is the second time this has happened to me in the same *******. The first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from me at the bar.

She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well.

The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action.

They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004.

I went out to ******** here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of them was named "*******" from the ****** family here. I talked to them about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year young African American. Most whites won't.

Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking when it comes to how they view others around the world.

Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right.

The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a salon here. I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area.

After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, and one of you is a fucking nigger"

I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the ********* manager was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told him that he had to leave the club.

The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and talked to the manager of *******. He never came over and asked me anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation.

I'm one of the charter members of ******* here. I have been going there since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a serious incident like this one

So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently she was happy that he was gone.

After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and told me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck. None of the other white men there, except for the canadian fella I was talking to had anything positive to say to me, and they said nothing to the WS who started the whole incident. Why am I not surprised?

So I called the police department again. I relayed the information to the police and sat back once more. After a few minutes the officer arrived and for the second time, the ******** manager met him in the vestibule, and they talked for a few minutes. Again, the policeman never came over to talk to me at all. Now I really felt something odd was going on because I'm the one doing the calling, but no one wants to talk to me. Is that normal police procedure now across the USA?

Nicole was very quiet while the white guy was calling me a nigger. She got on her cell phone and called her biracial boyfriend and told him to come by. The other couple got Up and left after a half hour or so. Then this attractive light skinned black man about 25 came in and Nicole snuggled up in his arms as he sat down beside her.

She told him what had happened and he began telling us what all behind he would have kicked had it been done to him. He told me he was a criminal and didn't play that sort of mess. The more we discussed it the more they seemed to try to blame me for everything. I asked Nicole why she had become such a chatterbox now that her black boyfriend had arrived. She laughed and said that she felt safe now. They continued spewing out all sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to their ignorance, I told them I had to go. I wished them a happy New Year and walked outside to the parking lot.

I saw the truck was still there. So when I left I drove around town in a random manner for about fifteen minutes to see if I was being followed. When I felt that I wasn't I headed on home and called it a night. I decided to stay home for New Years eve as I didn't want to run into any more of these beer drinking, ball cap wearing rabid, mad dog, psychotic folks like I had the night before. I didn't want to start the New Year being a victim, or being in jail for harming some piece of trash.

I haven't heard anything at all from ******** yet. I'm not surprised however. They didn't say or do anything when I called them about the first incident.

So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What are my rights? I've emailed ****** twice, and spoke to them twice, but so far they have done nothing.

I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. Amicably Yours If you have a interest in being helpful to me then, email me at *******"

264 comments

  1. like me by extirpater · · Score: 0

    i receive these kinds of mails from nigeria from a prince every time.

    1. Re:like me by DittoBox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a designer this design makes me puke, crap and wee myself at the same time. While seizing.

      Please make the text readable with black on white. I realize that there's plenty of pedantic crap that could be said about archaic hardware, 80 columns of text and green on black but we don't live in the 1980's anymore. ;)

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    2. Re:like me by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I only made it half way through the second paragraph before my eyes started freaking out.

      If you want more than that out of me, you'll have to change the colors.

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    3. Re:like me by jdoss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Same. I was doing well until I saw, "The next is a bit long", and figured to hell with it. I wasn't laughing anyway... perhaps because my eyes were bleeding.

    4. Re:like me by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny


      What do you mean, "We aren't in the 80s anymore?" I sit here, typing on my
      Apple //c, with a white glove on my hand, "Thriller" playing the the background,
      and I'm about to pop off to my break dancing lessons. I would say more, but I
      have to clean off the ranch dressing I just got all over my parachute pants
      before I head out the door.

      Sincerely,
      M.C. Morgan

    5. Re:like me by isomeme · · Score: 3, Informative

      +1

      As a mildly visually handicapped person, I can't comfortably read that color scheme at any text size. It's just horrible. Please consider accessability issues in your web design.

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    6. Re:like me by ari_j · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I know how you feel. I used to have 20/15 vision but I read an article from the Idle section in full and now I had to spend most of my paycheck for a down payment on a seeing eye dog.

    7. Re:like me by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please make the text readable with black on white.

      Agree!

      There are worse possibilities than white on green, but I wouldn't read those, either.

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    8. Re:like me by Knara · · Score: 0, Redundant

      *whine*

    9. Re:like me by StDoodle · · Score: 1

      When I can honestly say that a good percentage of MySpace pages are more easily read than a Slashdot "article," you know something is wrong.

    10. Re:like me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second that

      Why is it that so many people fail to realize that visual contrast is REALLY REALLY important when preparing web pages, advertisements and contract fine print.....

    11. Re:like me by scalarscience · · Score: 1

      You should try this on a high gamut monitor (samsung 275t here). Ouch!

    12. Re:like me by kriebz · · Score: 1

      As I understand it, accasablity on the web is achieved through both the page and the browser. Turn the stylesheet off, or tweak the background color. While I can be sensitive to your needs, I feel the Slashdot designers have met the requirements of accesiblity, if not taste.

      Also, I can read this all just fine. I don't know what everyone is complaining about. Get better monitors or something. My only complaint is that the lines are very long and I tend to take extra time to find the begining of the next one.

    13. Re:like me by keithius · · Score: 1

      Agreed. White text on a dark background is painful on the eyes.

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    14. Re:like me by isomeme · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm reading on a 40" high-end LCD display, so I doubt my monitor is the problem. :)

      And yes, I could try to do CSS surgery, but it would be a fair amount of work to figure out what to override. /. depends on CSS for layout control as well, so I can't just turn it off.

      If this information were critical to me, I'd jump through hoops to read it. But it's not, so I won't, and thus the design fails. I don't seem to be the only one who feels that way.

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    15. Re:like me by EvilBudMan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Damn, going from white on green to black on white lettering damn near blinded me and I want to complain or something.

      Eyes back to normal now.

    16. Re:like me by clone53421 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      javascript:var f=Function("var e=document.getElementsByTagName(arguments[0]);for(var i=0;i<e.length;i++){e[i].style.color='black';e[i].style.backgroundColor='white';}");f("body");f("div");f("span");f("td");f("th");f("p");f("a");void(0);

      Now if I could just figure out why the text in the buttons is still white...

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    17. Re:like me by windsurfer619 · · Score: 1

      In this week's Disagree Mail, I try to show the range of messages I get. It's not all angry or insane, sometimes it's sent to us for no apparent reason. We start off a little mad, slip into a whole bunch of crazy and finish with someone who has a complaint about racism at his favorite restaurant. Read below to get started.
      The last sentence in this one is what sold me.

      On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, wrote:
      "I have been blocked from Slashdot. I have done nothing worthy of being banned and if you would take your head out of your ass long enough you would realize it! I have to put up with this kind of shit at work but I won't put up with it here! so here's what I demand you do: Apologize to me, both here and in a letter. Apologize to my isp, I called at yelled at them yesterday thinking it was their fault. Finally, I want a written promise that you will never do this to me or anyone else again. If you do not meet these demands in 10 business days, I will be forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know to tell them of how you treat innocent users or reading my news else where. Your move asshole!"

      I've often wondered to myself, what would you do if someone who stole from the FBI found out you were a human computer? Thanks to this woman I still don't know.

      On Fri, 30 Nov, - wrote:
      "I'm in search for one of your representatives, or National Security. I have been able to read - mind. I showed up at - in Eugene, Oregon and let him know about the money that he stole from government agencies, including the FBI, which ironically protects him. He thought I was undercover or believed I was a human computer; which he still may believe. He witnesses that his computers talk to me, as if I were one of them. I can tell what program his computers are on and what they are interlocking with most of the time. He gave me a 400 million dollar check that day, as I sat there reading his mind explaining to him what I knew. At that point he had 8-10 billion dollars of government money/funding hidden away. But after the planes went down he stole over a 100 billion. He used Mike's pin# and password to get into National Security. He helped himself into instruments and institutions, and began using them incorrectly and illegally. I am offering National Security or any Representative a lot of my money to help me put this man away. It seems he is being protected by the forces I need. He is station #3 of the HAARP Project and I'm in search for anyone ready to earn a lot of money; for actually representing the United States of America the Right Way. He's been looking into the minds of his people and brainwashing them, so he will not be seen. I can read his mind faster than any instrument, and ironically he seems he has to answer my questions like I was a machine. When I listen, I can hear him telling people he's playing God and to digest this information; or to Change their mind. Another one he uses, line one--, line two--, line three--, Lock and Load, which also seems to convince people that he is innocent. He changes the information nightly so he won't be seen, for he is a computer programmer as you will soon see. I've even tried try to get the HAARP to tune into me, so they could see me which would see him. This is just the beginning of what I know. Eugene, Oregon's FBI seem to be full of idiots or his "Change Your mind Method" is working pretty damn good. Right now I get denied as they listen to him and not me. But COME ON PEOPLE, He wrote me a $400 Million dollar check. (SO, WAKE UP! FBI, because you are obviously, virtually blind),. This Nation seems to be lacking people like me. That can discover people like - and his black market industry."

      The next is a bit long. I'm not sure why this was sent to us or what he thought we were going to do about it. He might have a legitimate complaint but even with the vast power of the internet I can't make racist people stay away from restaurants. Calling them terrorists is a bit of a stretch too.

      On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, - wrote:
      Hello info@o

    18. Re:like me by riceboy50 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't help that the text is italicized. It's the perfect storm of unreadability!

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    19. Re:like me by Lord+Crc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And yes, I could try to do CSS surgery, but it would be a fair amount of work to figure out what to override.

      Depends on your browser I guess... In Opera you could simply go "View -> Style -> High Contrast (B/W)" and everything is turned into readable black on white.

    20. Re:like me by geekoid · · Score: 1

      But you still posted, and that's all that counts.

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    21. Re:like me by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "As I understand it, accasablity on the web is achieved through both the page and the browser." [sic]
      Then you obviously don't understand it.

      "Also, I can read this all just fine"
      Typical unlearned wannabe web designer response. 'Well, I can can use it! That means everyone else can too!'

      On second thought, are you even serious?

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    22. Re:like me by kriebz · · Score: 1

      I'm not trying to insult the OP or force my opinions on anyone. I don't have trouble reading it, and people are being very dramatic about how much it hurts their eyes. I thought maybe it was like an optical illusion or something and it just didn't "work" on me.

      I guess you could call me a wannabe Web designer, since I only write web stuff for myself and do some grunt work for other designers/programmers. I don't even think the title "web designer" is legit. But I do read books and standards docs, and I mostly know what I'm talking about. So, please don't call my skills into question because I don't get hysterical or nauseous reading text in the color scheme of a chalk board.

      In the words of Egon, "I'm always serious."

    23. Re:like me by synchronous0987 · · Score: 1

      You could just highlight it with your cursor, it's not really that hard to figure out.

    24. Re:like me by Khyber · · Score: 1

      You seem to me to be a poor designer - white text on black background is the standard for readability for users with vision issues, and is far less eye-strain inducing. However, I agree, white on green is just absolute bullshit.

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    25. Re:like me by Khyber · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You actually think a site that has moved to basically shoving web ads down your throat with half a 'story' is going to care about your eyesight?

      Slashdot has gone down the tubes since it tried to catch up with digg and reddit.

      GET BACK TO THE BASICS, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

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    26. Re:like me by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Have your doctor check your eyes, if such a visually low-strain scheme like white text on black background hurts your eyes, you have something wrong and probably need Lasik corrective surgery.

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    27. Re:like me by keithius · · Score: 1

      Lasik corrective surgery is for correcting nearsightedness or farsightedness - not sensitivity to high levels of contrast, which is what we're talking about here. (The specific problem of white text on a dark background is amplified by the way an LCD monitor produces its images as well - as does the specific environment in which you are viewing the monitor... but I digress.)

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    28. Re:like me by FatalTourist · · Score: 1

      In summary: You're a hipster.

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    29. Re:like me by wellingj · · Score: 1

      No one's asking you to waste your time here. Go waste it somewhere else if you don't like the colors.

  2. what is the idle template doing by old+and+new+again · · Score: 2, Insightful

    on the front page, messing everything

    1. Re:what is the idle template doing by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can change this in your preferences. Just go to 'help and preferences' and then 'sections' section assign a thin box or a no-display to this category.

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    2. Re:what is the idle template doing by chunkyq · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That may be, but this colour scheme should not exist in the first place.

    3. Re:what is the idle template doing by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...and especially not as "default"

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    4. Re:what is the idle template doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must be the only person who likes the color scheme :-p

    5. Re:what is the idle template doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not that bad. Quit whining.

    6. Re:what is the idle template doing by chunkyq · · Score: 1

      Yes. You must be.

  3. Choice of words did not go unnoticed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you going to come out in support of something? Have you come out recently?

    You say more than you think. I would rather you think before you engage your keyboard.

    Posted AC for obvious reasons.

  4. Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Making fun of mentally ill people - how noble of you. Not.

    1. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Otter · · Score: 1

      Mod this up. At least it's better than the old days when RobLimo would "interview" obviously deranged people for everyone's amusement.

    2. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct! He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed to defend the honor of some random crazy person from the internet! Hail and godspeed hero crusader! Give me a break.

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    3. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Maudib · · Score: 3, Funny

      Didn't you just do the same? GAH- Now I did!?!?! Where will the cycle end?

    4. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct!

      He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed to defend the honor of some random crazy person from the internet! Hail and godspeed hero crusader!

      Give me a break.

      That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

      It's really a question of taste and sportsmanship, not political correctness.

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    5. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind

      I'm sure glad you aren't making movies! That stuff is slapstick gold! :)

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    6. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sportsmanship - As in that it's too easy? Wow.

    7. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by prettything · · Score: 1

      there's no Way to tell if any of the authors are mentally ill, internets is publish and be damn'd! :)

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    8. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by CaptPungent · · Score: 5, Insightful
      BS.

      It's not acceptable to kick over wheelchairs or trip blind people because you are directly harming the person. They anonymized the emails so we have no idea who sent them in, even if they did it's a username on the internet. I'm not standing in front of the nutbag that typed all of that up and laughing in their faces. I'm chuckling at some anonymous ravings.

      The other consideration you might not have taken is that it could be a completely normal, creative person. I've done similar things before just exercising writing styles, writing about nonsense situations for no reason other than to try out something new.

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    9. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct!

      He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed to defend the honor of some random crazy person from the internet! Hail and godspeed hero crusader!

      Give me a break.

      That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

      It's really a question of taste and sportsmanship, not political correctness.

      Yes, random and unsolicited e-mails qualify as "trolling."

    10. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by jitterman · · Score: 1

      He/she has ridden in on his/her redoubtable white steed...

      Apparently AC isn't the only person who wants to be politically correct.

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    11. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by harryk · · Score: 1

      In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

      It's not?

      I kid I kid...

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    12. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by SoupGuru · · Score: 1

      Uh, what?

      If we can't make fun of the semi-literate ravings of lunatics on the mostly anonymous world wide web, then who ARE we allowed to make fun of? No really, who?

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    13. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Thaelon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Time spent avoiding offending the easily offended is time wasted.

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      Question everything

    14. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Bearpaw · · Score: 1

      Oh no! Someone on /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the (supposedly) politically incorrect! Poor baby, someone's challenged his delicate world-view!

      I usually find people who whine about "political correctness" much more annoying -- and for less reason -- than those they whine about.

      (And yeah, now I'm whining about someone whining about someone whining. Genius.)

    15. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I'm a commissar, you insensitive clod!

      --
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    16. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hal Porter, is that you?

    17. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Roblimo · · Score: 1, Funny

      We have never interviewed anyone who thought they were deranged. That would be cruel!

      - Robin

      PS - Note that we haven't interviewed *you* yet... :)

    18. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dear Penthouse;

      I am writing you because Slashdot makes fun of me. They refuse to believe that one day, two stunningly beautiful blonde Swedish twins walked in and asked me to have a threesome with them while coding. They explained they'd heard that men who can write in assembler are supposed be good at pounding on the bare metal. In this case it wasn't metal. But I digress. Just then two brunettes walked in and demanded I write realtime code for them in Basic, and they said if I made it happen they would richly reward me. To prove it, one opened her blouse and I fell down in a faint. When I woke up, I was tied to my keyboard. This has very little to do with Slashdot but I like taunting the staff.

      Sincerely

      Commodore Sixtyfour, Retired.

    19. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Oh no! /. has offended a whiny, oversensitive commissar of the politically correct!

      You're confusing "offensive" with "lame".

    20. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the point. In much the same way it's not cool to kick over wheel chairs or trip the blind it's also not cool to troll mad people or laugh at their ravings in public.

      It's really a question of taste and sportsmanship, not political correctness.

      What a ridiculous comparison. One persons "taste" and "sportsmanship" is another's political correctness gone wrong. Perhaps if people weren't so politically correct to the retarded, we wouldn't have one in the whitehouse.

    21. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares. It's funny, and you're not.

    22. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why is the comment entry
      field so fracking small? It's
      inexcusable that this has n
      ot yet been fixed. In fact, it
      boggles the mind that it wa
      s even publicly released in
      the first place.

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    23. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      So, what's the difference between "taste and sportsmanship" and political correctness?

      I'm not trying to be clever here, I actually do want to know.

      --
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    24. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Yeah that was ment to be ironic and sarcastic in the same spirit as the praise contained in the sentence. -1 for having to explain the joke.

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    25. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      I would have to say it's the separation of the thing done from the person doing. It's ok in my mind to say wow, the stuff this crazy person wrote is hilarious. However it would not be ok to simply say it is hilarious that somebody is crazy.

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    26. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by LearnToSpell · · Score: 1

      They anonymized the emails so we have no idea who sent them in, even if they did it's a username on the internet. I'm not standing in front of the nutbag that typed all of that up and laughing in their faces. I'm chuckling at some anonymous ravings.

      Actually, if you look at this story on Baidu, the names are in there.

    27. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm in search for one of your representatives, or National Security. I have been able to read ********** mind."

      Woah, I think I can read ******'s mind...
      *o**o**ea*
      *o*bo**eal

      I'm getting closer...

    28. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      So, what's the difference between "taste and sportsmanship" and political correctness?

      I'm not trying to be clever here, I actually do want to know.

      Taste and sportsmanship is a personally, subjective thing. Political correctness is something that you try to force everyone else to follow.

      I think there's a scale of crazy - at the low end of it, it's quite legitimate to laugh at people. But beyond some level it just doesn't seem funny anymore. Basically it's too easy because these people can't really think, argue or defend themselves, hence the analogy with tripping up blind people. It's not funny, and is actually rather sickening to watch.

      In fact the best objection to places like /b/ and Encyclopedia Dramatica is that they don't get this rule - they thing it's quite ok to torment people that have quite obvious mental health issues.

      Sane people behaving like pretentious twats are quite ok to torment in my book, but schizophrenics for example are not. Now I've no intention of trying to force anyone else to observe this rule (unlike the PC brigade who try to get people banned or fired) but I will point out that it's not funny or particularly clever when they break it.

      Actually if the PC crowd only argued on a level playing field for their rules, I'd have no problem with them.

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    29. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by evilninja · · Score: 1

      Harassing the disabled would not be acceptable on YouTube even if their faces were blurred out or voices modulated for the sake of anonymity. Anonymizing the e-mails provides some privacy for the senders, but it still allows the possibility of undue humiliation.

      That said, there's no solid evidence that these people are anything less than your normal, everyday, stoned college student.

      Except for the third guy; and I just feel bad for him.

    30. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Hal Porter, is that you?

      Go back to your hugbox!

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    31. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      youre a nigger
      and a kike
      and a faggot
      and a fatbody
      and a spic
      and a retard.

    32. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up, you retard.

    33. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other consideration you might not have taken is that it could be a completely normal, creative person. I've done similar things before just exercising writing styles, writing about nonsense situations for no reason other than to try out something new.

      Or maybe you're actually crazy and just think you're normal. Hmm?

    34. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      Its only funny until someone gets hurt, then its hilarious!!

      (my favorite dotcom era slogan)

      --
      music lover since 1969
    35. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by CaptPungent · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you look at this story on Baidu, the names are in there.

      But I'm not reading the story on Baidu, I'm reading it on /.

      See the distiction?

      --
      C Pungent
    36. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by CaptPungent · · Score: 1
      If that's what your concience tells you, that's fine.

      I just really don't care enough to bother feeling bad about someone whom I know neither the name, face, or location of. I'm just chuckling at the stories presented.

      --
      C Pungent
    37. Re:Yeah, haha, you're so funny. by LearnToSpell · · Score: 1
  5. Wow, a whole 3 rants? by alta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, judging by the small number of flames you guys are getting, people must REALLY LOVE YOU.

    But then again, based on the number of flames in the poll comments, that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Maybe yall are missing some somehow. Something MUST be misconfigured. Maybe you should check your MX records. Then again, maybe not. Ignorance is bliss.

    --
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    1. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 1

      Same thing was said about last week only having "a whole 2 rants". So far we are at 5, perhaps just give it some time? In 52 weeks we could be at a whole 104 rants.

      --
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      We may not be created equal
      But we can be treated equal.
    2. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by electrosoccertux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was thinking perhaps a separate page for this kind of thing would simply be better. No need to create a whole story for it-- just put a link at the top of the page which says "3 new slashdot nastygrams!" or something similar.

      Or we could have it bash.org style, post up the best ones and let us vote them up or down.

    3. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Jesus you people are rediculous! These guys are going above and beyond the call of a /. editor to bring us this stuff. Do you really think they have time to go over thousands of emails and put it all up so you'll be happy? How much time do you think they have? Being a /. editor means spending literally minutes a day meticulously researching submitted posts for dupes, checking spelling, revising incomplete submissions, looking up rules of grammar, fact checking, source checking, etc. etc. And now that they take a few minutes out of their 23 hours of free time to bring you a little laughter from retarded people and misdirected emails, all your can do is complain? Sheesh, the nerve of some people!

    4. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by alta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You missed the memo. They said last year that they replaced all their editors. They heard some quote about an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of keyboards.

      Now the procedure is, we post something to firehose, and a bunch of monkeys sit around trying to click on a submit button that moves around the page... Kinda like that annoying swat the fly flash ad, or the crosshairs on obama one.

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    5. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by Barny · · Score: 1

      RIP http://bash.org/

      Oh how we miss you

      --
      ...
      /me sighs
    6. Re:Wow, a whole 3 rants? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      You missed the memo. They said last year that they replaced all their editors.

      BTW, where do you hear this sort of thing? I don't see editorial changes posted as stories, and I don't know where else they'd be published.

      I know if a story had been posted about JonKatz's firing, it would have broken records for comments posted. It would have been a huge party.

  6. Let me guess by dedazo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The ********** on the second email was Bill Gates. Right?

    BTW, how come the input box on the reply page for this section is really small but not on the others?

    And seriously, that green background has to go.

    --
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    1. Re:Let me guess by dgbrownnt · · Score: 1

      Teal

    2. Re:Let me guess by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Try CowboyNeal :)

  7. Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They weren't funny or interesting the last time. I almost fell asleep reading these ones.

  8. trolling, duh? by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not all angry or insane, sometimes it's sent to us for no apparent reason.

    Everything is done for a reason- in this case, it's probably to try and troll Slashdot staff, though some of the babbling nonsense may be spammers; they're known for taking text off the internet and using it. Now that you're posting the emails, expect the volume to skyrocket from the people who are purposefully sending the email to you.

    I honestly don't find any values in these emails. They're either assholes or babbling idiots, neither of them interesting or funny.

    1. Re:trolling, duh? by HardCase · · Score: 1

      I get 'em all the time, too, and I own a piddly little insignificant web site. But what's worse than the trollish emails is the god-awful white on green format of idle.slashdot.

      The tiny little comment box is kind of cute, though.

  9. hate mail & hide idle by Animaether · · Score: 3, Informative

    you want to see hate mail? Well, technically, not mail - but try the last time this stuff got posted to front page:
    http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/13/2336232

    Plenty of hate.

    Thankfully, you can hide Idle. Customize > Sections, set Idle to the left-most radiobutton option, click the button in the bottom and.. ahhh, bliss.

    1. Re:hate mail & hide idle by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thankfully, you can hide Idle. Customize > Sections, set Idle to the left-most radiobutton option, click the button in the bottom and.. ahhh, bliss.

      it's obviously not working since you're still posting in Idle.

      --
      Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
    2. Re:hate mail & hide idle by Chad+Birch · · Score: 2, Funny

      I asked in the last Idle story that clogged up my feed, but didn't get a response:

      Does anyone know how to stop idle from appearing in the RSS feed? The posts are really fucking terrible and I would like to pretend they don't exist.

      P.S. I really like this 100px-wide comment box on idle, it's almost as good as the white-on-teal articles.

      --
      Sturgeon was an optimist.
    3. Re:hate mail & hide idle by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      Idle-free slashdot, thanks to yahoo pipes

    4. Re:hate mail & hide idle by Tejin · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should send an email about it.

      --
      The seekers do no need truth, the seekers do find truth and the finding do be painful
    5. Re:hate mail & hide idle by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU so very, very much for that. Leave it to the answer to the Ultimate Question.

      Keep this "idle" bullshit out of the regular RSS feed - the one that's for real stories. Not that I'll ever see the crap again.

      --
      Oppressing an entire population is never cheap.
      --Jeckler (/. Beta IS GARBAGE!)
    6. Re:hate mail & hide idle by Animaether · · Score: 1

      *grin* I was giving them the benefit of doubt that maybe, just maybe, the second time they ran this particular storyline, they'd keep it off the front page; but alas. Hence, it's since hidden (got here this time through my account overview).

  10. uh.... by jgarra23 · · Score: 1

    That's insane?

    Wow, it's eerie how mentally-unstable peoples' ramblings sound astoundingly similar to Nigerian spam. No kidding either, it's creepy to me!

  11. Obligatory Mel Brooks by Legion_SB · · Score: 1

    "Sir, he specifically requested two 'niggers'. Well, to tell the family secret, my grandmother was Dutch."

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  12. What she should've done... by evil_aar0n · · Score: 1

    Take the $400 mil and hop a jet to someplace warm and sunny.

    Your move, asshole!

    --
    Truth, Justice. Or the American Way.
  13. Idle on front page. by Drakin020 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Can we keep the Idle stuff off the front page?

    --
    The greatest revenge in life is massive success.
    1. Re:Idle on front page. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, take the idle section off the front page!

    2. Re:Idle on front page. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

      Even Katz and Timothy were never this lame. People who want to be amused read the comments in classic mode at -1 (inviting the inevitable -- thank you moderators).

  14. I Move We Rename the "Idle" Section by aquatone282 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . to the "Lame" section, because the few times I've visited I've always left thinking "Man, that was lame.

    --
    What?
  15. PS: found that email.. by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-01/2996.html In short, that email was sent to a bunch of techie related lists. If you had bothered to search on a phrase in the email, you would have found it too.

    1. Re:PS: found that email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I like the fact that the /. version used 'nigger' and censored 'Applebees', and the linked version did the reverse.

    2. Re:PS: found that email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      and, because this guy annoyed half the net, someone even found out who the guy is

    3. Re:PS: found that email.. by ari_j · · Score: 1

      The editors don't edit the submissions they approve. They don't check for anything in the way of factual sanity, much less correctness. They certainly don't read the articles that submissions link to. Do you really expect them to read sites for which they aren't spoon-fed a link?

    4. Re:PS: found that email.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Slashdot has fallen to a new low. I think that I'm going back to watching daytime TV.

    5. Re:PS: found that email.. by ZX3+Junglist · · Score: 2, Funny

      Apparently using "nigger" to describe a black person is nowhere near as bad as using "applebees" to describe food.

  16. This thread belongs by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    in the TotalSlashdot section!

    1. Re:This thread belongs by British · · Score: 1

      You're right. This Ide section of Slashdot is like what FarkTV was to fark.

  17. 30th of November by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That email should be obvious to everyone.. It's a spam mail bot.. I get them all the time too. Maybe someday one of mine will make front page of slashdot.

  18. OT: obvious reasons by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Posted AC for obvious reasons.

    Am I the only one that always gets a chuckle out of these disclaimers? The 'obvious reasons' always seem to boil down to a) don't want to go through the karmic trauma of being modded down or b) persecution complex.

    1. Re:OT: obvious reasons by corbettw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      by thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) on Wed Aug 20, '08 12:20 PM (#24677003) Homepage

      Posted AC for obvious reasons.

      This is why the preview button exists, kids.

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    2. Re:OT: obvious reasons by Fael · · Score: 1

      From context, that seems to have been a quotation, not an assertion.

    3. Re:OT: obvious reasons by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Yep, that's a quote, which I figured would be obvious since it was in GP's post ;) It does correctly show up as a quote now, but earlier I did see it wasn't for some reason. Odd.

    4. Re:OT: obvious reasons by DieNadel · · Score: 2, Informative

      thePowerOfGrayskull was talking about the person he replied to, who indeed posted as AC and invoked the disclaimer.

      Go to the message and click the "Parent" button at the bottom of it, and you'll see.

      --
      Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
    5. Re:OT: obvious reasons by harryk · · Score: 1

      laugh ... He was obviously attempting to quote the original post, not attempt to disclaim that he was posting AC. Wow ...

      --
      think before you write, it'll save me moderator points.
    6. Re:OT: obvious reasons by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Something was messed up with the formatting, it didn't look like a quote (and I had my threshold set sufficiently high that I didn't see the original AC comment).

      I suspect it was the stylesheet used by idle; when I view your post using the regular Slashdot stylesheet, it looks fine and it's obvious you're quoting something in that statement. In the future, I'll either avoid idle entirely, or just remove 'idle' from the URL (that seems to fix the problem). Guess I should also take more than four seconds to think of a smart ass comment and post it, too. Nah, that sounds too much like actual work. ;)

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      God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
    7. Re:OT: obvious reasons by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Ah, yep - gone back and checked, and noticed the same think with the idle stylesheet. And taking more than four seconds to think of a smart-ass comment /is/ too much work - it can interrupt the flow and ruin the 'zing' factor...

  19. Tubbs wants his color back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Word of advice - use teal sparingly. Reading white text on that background gives me a headache. I feel like I got my ass kicked by Miami Vice.

  20. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by joggle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Practically any crime involving intimidation can be turned into terrorism if you consider that the criminal is trying to terrorize you. The armed burglar, mugger, etc. are all trying to scare you into giving them what they want. Doesn't make them terrorists though.

    They already have hate crimes for things like this, no need to further stretch the 'terrorism' word further than it already has been.

  21. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "But a standalone fact is that racism is indeed terrorism. When you call a Black person "nigger", you are referring to a long history of abuse, often lethal (and worse) of Black people."
    No not at all. No more than someone saying whitey or honky is!
    What about Redneck or Cracker?
    It is ugly and ignorant but terrorism? You are granting idiots too much power over you.

    Get over it people.

    --
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  22. Comment Bar placement by Rashkae · · Score: 1

    Question:, how I do I stop the comment bar from pinning itself on this page layout? The little down arrow clicky isn't there, and I can't find it's equivalent. (It's a small thing, but annoying like a sore tooth I can't stop poking at)

    1. Re:Comment Bar placement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Change your user agent from FireFox to IE7. Fixed.

  23. Yeah. by juuri · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about we just pretend these two idle postings to the front page never happened and return to our usual flaming of microsoft, apple, and wondering when esr is going to start using a proper deodorant.

    Seriously? Guys? This is complete FAIL.
     

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    --- I do not moderate.
  24. First Response by LiquidvsMetal · · Score: 1

    I'm still laughing about the first letter. And I'm curious what move did you make, asshole?

    Seriously, who does this guy think he is?

    "I'll read my news elsewhere!"

    Let him go get his news from Fox, he'll fit in better there anyway.

  25. Not funny... by MojoRilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The second email seems to be from a bipolar or schizophrenic woman who is having severe delusions. I know because a relative of mine who has been diagnosed as bipolar has had similar delusions.

    Instead of posting the email and laughing at this poor woman, why don't you try to get her help?

    1. Re:Not funny... by Rick+Genter · · Score: 1

      I assumed it was some sort of bot, similar to those that post to Usenet every so often.

      --
      Don't underestimate the power of The Source
    2. Re:Not funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good grief. 1) it's not their responsibility to look out for the wellfare of the mentally ill for Christ sake.

      2) Her condition doesn't make the ramble any less funny.
      Mentally Ill or not, it's STILL funny. Nobody's making fun of that fact -we're laughing at the context of the message - not her illness.

      You need a friggin' massage along with the rest of the /. prudes.

    3. Re:Not funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second email seems to be from a bipolar or schizophrenic woman who is having severe delusions.
      I know because a relative of mine who has been diagnosed as bipolar has had similar delusions.
      Instead of posting the email and laughing at this poor woman, why don't you try to get her help?

      +1

      Thank you MojoRilla for saying that, I also have a sister with serious bipolar/delusions. Not fun, and not funny, and not something to laugh at that for sure.

    4. Re:Not funny... by spookymonster · · Score: 1

      Mod the parent AC up.

      The last thing the world needs is the a bunch of Thought Police telling us what we can or can't find funny.

      Thanks for telling me what I should've done, but if it's all the same to you, I'll let my own conscious be my guide, rather than fake righteousness out of fear or peer-pressure.

      And feel free to mod me down for supporting him... karma (like words) only controls you if you let it.

      Oh.... and for God's sake... please change the color scheme!

      --
      - Despite popular opinion, I am not perfect.
    5. Re:Not funny... by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      So, which social service agency is it I can contact to report a mentally disturbed person by email address, and where did they get their email to names database.

      --
      Snowden and Manning are heroes.
    6. Re:Not funny... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Becasue it's not our job to help everyone?
      Seriously, how do you expect to help a schizophrenic(possible paranoid) person over the internet?

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    7. Re:Not funny... by Xybre · · Score: 1

      You're kidding right?
      What are they going to do?
      Call the local hospital and say "I got an email from a crazy woman go pick her up"?

      --
      Eternity is a time bomb.
    8. Re:Not funny... by Xybre · · Score: 1

      I've known a few people like that, close friends, family..

      And you know what?

      It's still damn funny.

      --
      Eternity is a time bomb.
    9. Re:Not funny... by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Instead of posting the email and laughing at this poor woman, why don't you try to get her help?

      How? No, seriously, how? In the US, at least, we've eliminated most avenues for treating all but the most severe forms of mental illness. Right now, homelessness seems to the accepted end-result.

      Pointing and laughing or muttering and shaking your head seems to be the only responses now.

  26. Good Grief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The /. community needs to friggin' chill out.

    I myself find these posts interesting, somewhat humorous and you should continue posting them -the rest of you, take a pill for God sake.

  27. It's all downhill from here by sjonke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I didn't say anything the first time, but this time.... Really, how do you follow up the first Disagree Mail with something even worse even when you know you're going to get hammered for it? Let's all hope this is the last Disagree Mail episode, because it obviously isn't going to get any better.

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    --- What?
  28. Dear editor... by aug24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please take this idle shit off the RSS feed.

    Ta muchly,
    Justin.

    --
    You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
    1. Re:Dear editor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, please. It's great that idle is separate from the rest of /. -- if only it were also separate from the rss feed. And the whole internet.

    2. Re:Dear editor... by martinmarv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I concur. I read Slashdot via RSS. This idle stuff is not as bad as people make out, but I don't want to read it with the rest of my "Technology" stories. So please give me the chance to choose a non-idle RSS feed.

      I know it's not a threat to say "or I will stop reading Slashdot" - you don't need my custom, and won't miss it. However, listening to the requests of your users is one of the marks of a good website that people pass on to each other and keep using.

    3. Re:Dear editor... by wye43 · · Score: 1

      I agree, please remove idle or provide an option to customize the RSS. I read /. from RSS as well.

      Seriously, idle has no place in tech news. Its not even funny, its just lame.

  29. Human Computers by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A little history: Before ENIAC was engineered, a "computer" was a human being whose job was to do math, e.g. making ballistics tables for artillery, etc.

    During WWII the military employed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of human computers.

    Frank herbert called them "Mentats".

    BTW and OT, the black on dark green on this screen is unreadable to geezers (and possibly to young people as well). I really wish you guys would fix that, thx.

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    mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
  30. I get enough meaningless drivel in my own mailbox by D.+Taylor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't need to read yet more crap on slashdot. Especially when it isn't even funny.

  31. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Base insults are not terrorists acts.

  32. Racist comments are NOT Terrorism by scipiodog · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wow.

    He got called "nigger" two times in five years and that's Terrorism to you?

    By your logic, calling someone "Faggot" twice is terrorism, too. After all, there's a long history of oppression of gay people (longer than black people, in fact.)

    How about being called "witch" or "infidel"?

    All terrorism, according to you.

    Ridiculous.

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  33. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every fucking thing the religious right and religious left doesn't like becomes "terrorism."

    Terrorism is the most overused word in the english language these days.

    Also reminds me of the lame attempts to eliminate the word from gangster rap and hip hop.

    This kind of stupidity makes people cling to these words more strongly.

    Instead of getting enraged at speech, get enraged at real injustice.

  34. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you call a Black person "nigger", you are referring to a long history of abuse, often lethal (and worse) of Black people.

    "Black people" can be perceived as derogative as well. And so can "negroid", "coloured", and so on. Take offense to the "I hope he's not a" part. That is the racist element.

    If I said "look at Obama, there might be a nigger in charge of the USA soon, that'd be so cool".. how would that be racism, let alone terrorism? Context means a lot in communication.

  35. They clearly need the material... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and they figure this is the best way to get it.

  36. Why? by Dan+Parker · · Score: 1

    Why the horrible text and background colors? It's as if you want no one to read it.

  37. You know what's even funnier? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    All the angry /. people posting angry rants about white text on green (which I quite like) and how oppressed they are by an item appearing on the front page of /. that they don't want to read. If I were you I'd just tell them 'We must pick up our crosses daily."

    --
    Drill baby drill - on Mars
    1. Re:You know what's even funnier? by CaseyB · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, I haven't seen such unanimous disdain for a series of slashdot articles since Jon Katz. Is it still ungrateful whining if *everyone* is doing it?

    2. Re:You know what's even funnier? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, I haven't seen such unanimous disdain for a series of slashdot articles since Jon Katz. Is it still ungrateful whining if *everyone* is doing it?

      Yup.

      --
      Drill baby drill - on Mars
    3. Re:You know what's even funnier? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      except it's a horrible combination of colors and hard on the eyes for most people.

      Take into account when you are running a business, and a lot of your customers complain about something you should look into it.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  38. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are saying it to terrorize them. Not just personally, but as part of a whole group of people that you are trying to intimidate.

    Nope. "nigger" and other racial slurs serve more to dehumanize their targets and distance them from the person uttering it.

    Dehumanize =/= Terrorize.

  39. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

    You know, the fact that both of those people got escorted off the premises and that most of the people around him were very receptive to him screams that it's an isolated problem. Keep in mind that he's in Missouri, which sided with the South and had slavery (if I remember correctly).

    Racism is isolated and uncommon; bringing attention to it's just going to backfire at this point.

  40. Dear Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have recently begun reading a section of your website called "Idle", but the text is an ugly white on green and it's making my eyes bleed.

    Seeing as you are based in the USA, can you recommend a lawyer so I can sue you and can you tell me how much money you have?

    Thank you.

  41. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by jmorris42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > But a standalone fact
    > is that racism is indeed
    > terrorism.

    No. Some skinhead pansy prancing around is an idiot. Not enough of a threat to waste the word terrorist on. Some hillbilly who still uses the N word in public is not a terrorist. Bigot? Yes. Terrorist? No.

    The Klan burning a cross in somebody's front yard? Terrorist. Burning one at a Klan rally? Stupid but not terrorist.

    To qualify for terrorist there needs to be violence or the direct threat of violence.

    Of course lesser evil still needs to be defeated, not just terrorists. I'm just objecting to throwing that word around so much it becomes meaningless. And stupid is sometimes just ignorant. Ignorant can be cured.... sometimes.

    --
    Democrat delenda est
  42. Tagging by theIsovist · · Score: 1

    Can we start tagging this one as PleaseStop as well?

  43. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by 42Penguins · · Score: 1

    If racism is terrorism, then we are all terrorists.

    Recently a woman with dark skin (white mother, black father) was shot during a drug raid. She had 6 children from 5 fathers, and lived with a new boyfriend who was the focus of the raid for crack dealing. The self-appointed black leaders of the town shouted for months (and are still shouting) about racism in policing and the court system, brought Jesse Jackson to town, and called for murder charges against the officer. He was acquitted in court of lesser charges, and now they are pushing for a federal civil rights case.

    Meanwhile, there have been 300 police calls for shootings this year, many of them black-on-black and from the same neighborhood as the raid, and not a peep from the same people from above. Racism?

  44. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But a standalone fact is that posting as an Anonymous Coward is indeed terrorism. When you post as an Anonymous Coward, you are referring to a long history of trolling, often annoying (and worse) Slashdot users. You are posting to terrorize them. Not just personally, but as part of a whole group of people that you are trying to intimidate. That's an instance of using trolls for political effects: suppressing legitimate posters by drowning out legitimate conversations and derailing threads.

    It is indeed terrorism. It's not at all the scale of crashing planefuls of people into giant office towers, or beheading someone in a widely distributed video. But it is indeed terrorism. And repeated thousands of times a day, for hundreds of years, that kind of terrorism has a very large scale effect.

    That's no joke.

  45. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the fact that this sort of ignorance is abound makes me sad for our society. I'm no racist, but the minute you start telling me which words i can and cannot say you are trampling my rights. If i want to go into a nightclub in the middle of Harlem and scream a racial slur that's my right. any beatings resulting from it are also my right, but constitute physical assault charges on the offending party.

    Retards were picketing the new release of the movie Tropic Thunder for "gratuitous use" of a "hateful word".

    honestly, what ever happened to "sticks and stones"? none of the blacks born in the last 50 years have been oppressed. next issue please.

    and everyone, please refrain from using the word "toast", as it offends me, and i have lobbied my congresspersons to have its utterance deemed a hate crime. too many innocent pieces of bread have been burned in the past.

  46. Gah. by Duncan+Blackthorne · · Score: 0

    Reading these makes my brain hurt. I think I'll pass from now on. :p

  47. Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by philspear · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't realize I could gain publicity from this place for trolling. Now that I know...

    The holocaust was faked.

    CmdrTaco is dead.

    Evolution isn't real, God created us to fight other ethnic groups and win.

    If I don't get my own section of slashdot for this post, I'm going to turn you into the FBI for child porn.

    Maybe I should have included some random caps lock fouls. The Godwin in the subject line should be enough for something.

  48. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry, but the dictionary disagrees with you. I would like to quote the Firesign Theater (I think from the "Bozos" record, I got stoned a lot back then and it was thirty or more years ago):

    There's micks and wops and niggers and kikes with noses as long as your arm, and honkeys who never left the farm. THAT'S America, buddy!

    My ancestors were called "micks" and it was spewed back then like "nigger" is now. Have you seen the movie Blazing Saddles? "Ok, we'll even take the niggers, but NOT the Irish!" We got past it, so should you.

    I heard a man once say that when black people would stop using the word "nigger", he would too. Although I personally dislike the word, I think he has a valid point.

    The reason the word is so distasteful is that "nigger" means "slave"; back when slavery was legal, a slave was considered just another farm animal, a subhuman. You had "field niggers" and "house niggers", like a house cat or an alley cat.

    A "nigger rig" was a mechanical device meant for the slaves to use, usually junk, that was hastily repaired by a white slave owner or his white employees with the least amount of effort and expense. It was not "Afro-American Engineering".

    If a word terrorizes you, you are indeed a cowardly wimp. Grow up and grow a spine.

    --
    mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
  49. Missouri / Verbal Assault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Missouri, there's no such thing as "verbal assault". It's harassment. You have the right to walk away, and an owner or custodian of private property has the right to eject any individual, and may seek criminal trespass charges if the harassment persists.

    It may not be just or fair, but if you can provoke someone into attacking you using only words, they are guilty of assault in Missouri.

  50. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    right or wrong, in this country someone is still free to call someone else whatever they want.

    There is NO right to not be offended in our constitution.

  51. What a waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was a waste of time. Im going to write you to ask for my 10 minutes back. Popeye is funnier than this garbage. Popeye.

  52. She's onto me! by Experiment+626 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I must confess, I am the computer programmer identified as "**********" in the second letter who used Mike's Pin# and password to steal 100 billion dollars from National Security and who has been reading people's minds and brainwashing them.

    Thanks to this human computer discovering my evil scheme, and the Slashdot editors posting it for all the world to see, it appears I have to do some damage control to keep my "black market industry" a secret. I am now forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know or reading my news else where. Your move ***hole!

  53. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by nawcom · · Score: 1

    Language can be a challenge to some people. I heard this the other day from my girlfriend who lives with a girl who takes care of children born with autism. It is considered offensive to be called an "autistic child" versus a "child suffering from autism." Yeah, it can be looked as being a little too sensitive, though if you look real hard, there is a difference between describing who (or what) a person is (he or she is autistic) and what a person (as in the same as everyone else) is suffering from.

    Myself, when it comes to skin color, usually refer to one as a person with x skin color, since that is the only difference, for example i'm just a human being with white-colored skin. Just my own preference. Unfortunately there are still many people who define a "black person" or "a black" as a lazy no-good big-boned ape. Which is sad.

    I just did a quick read-through, was the issue with skin color taking place in Canada? I'm a little curious on the status of skin color segregation in other countries of the world, other than Canada and the US.

  54. Please search google first by blast3r · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The last two have been around for a long time. This was just someone spamming a list of email addresses they had. One is even as far back as 2001. I was happy to see the first post of this last week but if it is just going to be a place to bring up old spam then yuck.

  55. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  56. you could start with fixing the ad server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right now, there's an ad that never goes away, and page content never appears. It looks like the ad itself is doing a redirect, sending the client to a page that only contains the ad. Weird.

  57. Tag as "pleasestop" by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

    I said it in the last Idle article, and I'll say it in this one:

    New tag: pleasestop

    Never give up, never surrender!

    -G

    --
    Their may be a grammatical error, misspeling, or evn a typo in this post.
  58. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by nawcom · · Score: 1

    And with the reference to terrorism, that is too much. Why? Because these types of phobias and insecurities and hate are actually quite common, and it can be looked on as a special trait of humans. Along with the great complexity of the human brain comes the possibility of a logic-simplistic skill of hate, because the people around you are different. From the single celled amoeba to the intelligent complexities such as dolphins, monkeys, and pigs, none have the flaw that humans continue to socially carry to their young, the flaw against their own. Sad really.

  59. Eugene, Oregon? by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 1

    Since I actually live in Eugene, this one was kinda weird. For those of you who aren't familiar with our little part of the world, it's know for rain, runners, and an aging hippie population.

    I'm not familiar with any human computers or FBI conspiracies, but maybe those are just "his" mind control methods in action.

    1. Re:Eugene, Oregon? by Webs+101 · · Score: 1

      Eugene's also known for grass seed. And the pollen that makes it.

      Whenever I visit in the summer, my allergy makes me feel like my face is going to melt.

      --

      "Even for Slashdot, that was a very obscure reference!" - Anonymous Coward

    2. Re:Eugene, Oregon? by ngrier · · Score: 1

      But if you live there, you should also know that Eugene has more than its share of schizophrenics, paranoid delusionals and just plain freaks. (Speaking as someone who grew up there...) This is, at least in part, related to the recreational activities of all those "aging hippies" to which you refer (pun intended).

      I'm sure this person has, in fact, contacted the local FBI office several times and each time been politely ignored. They have better things to do with their time (like listen to your phone conversations!).

  60. Okay, Doctor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What are your qualifications for diagnosing these people based on a single letter they have written? Who, in your esteemed opinion, is an acceptable target for mockery?

    Humor is one of the ways we deal with the world so that we do not become mentally ill. Humor and compassion are not mutually exclusive.

    People who cannot find humor in the actions of the mentally ill are usually full of pity, which is much, much worse. It's an insidious way of disenfranchising the mentally ill. It is incompatible with compassion and does no one any favors. The only thing it does is assuage your own guilt - but at the expense of the people you are supposedly defending.

  61. sigh by legoman666 · · Score: 1
    Why are so many people under the impression that making racist comments is illegal?

    And oh my god, reading that white on green text made my eyes water.

    1. Re:sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "reading that white on green text made my eyes water."

      if you're on a mac, you can fix that by hittin control-option-apple-8.

    2. Re:sigh by Slash.Poop · · Score: 0

      Is there possibility we could get a few more buttons to hit at once? Just how many fingers do you think I have?

    3. Re:sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are so many people under the impression that making racist comments is illegal?

      Because in most countries it actually is. Belgium for instance has a fine reputation in prosecuting hate-speech and racism online (as well as prosecuting people who deny the holocaust)

      I'm pretty sure someone will follow with the "oh my god, you guys don't have free speech!!!!!!111one" argument. Feel free to write the words "Colored people are scum" (or whatever fancies you) on a large sign a wave it at some non-caucasians to prove that you have free speech, and learn the valuable lesson of how to properly exercise your right to free speech.

    4. Re:sigh by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Is there possibility we could get a few more buttons to hit at once? Just how many fingers do you think I have?

      Hopefully more than four!

  62. Poll by ari_j · · Score: 1

    I submitted a poll (or I hope I did - there is not a good interface for submitting polls) the other day:

    Which would you rather see terminated?
    - kdawson
    - idle.slashdot.org
    - both
    - Not CowboyNeal

    It'll never get posted, of course, but maybe someone will listen. It seems that Slashdot is becoming more "corporate," and of course by that I mean "mismanaged." The overall impression I get is that Slashdot has meetings to come up with new ideas, and just like many meetings of that sort, instead of acting as a filter by having more voices to reject bad ideas, those voices instead multiple only the number of bad ideas generated and accepted for lack of rejection.

    Make it stop. And if this is just a New Coke-esque ploy to get us not to complain about spelling and grammatical errors in stories and stupid April Fool's Day jokes, it has accomplished its purpose already and you can bring back Slashdot Classic now.

    1. Re:Poll by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

      Turn the f'n channel if you don't like it. Christ, I'm sorry this little bunch of bytes isn't yet another putrefied article gobbling Steve Jobs' cock, but damn, is the Back button too much for you to handle?

    2. Re:Poll by ari_j · · Score: 1

      As others have pointed out, there isn't that level of control over the RSS feed. And we are trying to do Slashdot a favor by pointing out the things that piss its precious users off, since without those users the site is worthless. If you are saying that you enjoy kdawson's work and the Idle section, then do so clearly for the benefit of the discussion. If you just want to be a prick, well, I guess you've come to the right place but it sure doesn't give you a lot of credibility.

      Besides, I've been here way longer than you have. :P

    3. Re:Poll by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      You should obviously have submitted that poll to Disagree
      Slashdot the other day. You could have made Frontpage today!

      --
      "Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
    4. Re:Poll by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Dude, did you read the dates? They're on the 2005 backlog still!

  63. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by MPAB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What would be more accurate: "a child suffering from autism" or "a child whose family suffers from his/her autism"? "An autistic child" is the most accurate of all, just as "african american" isn't anywhere as accurate as "dark skinned person" or "black person".
    And I rather don't mention the "special abilities" fad.

    It's Newspeak all along, sacrificing clarity and straighforwardness.

  64. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I disagree that calling someone "nigger" implies a threat. It's a hateful word, and can certainly be used in a threatening context - but the word itself is not a terrorist threat.

    As an extreme and obvious example, Chris Rock can say it and it's comedy. Less extreme is this hick at Applebee's - if he was trying to insult the guy and make him uncomfortable - that's not terrorism. There needs to be a threat of violence.

    I'm not trying to defend the hick at Applebee's - he's the worst kind of person. But people are tossing the word "terrorism" around so much that it is losing it's meaning. If insulting people is terrorism, then what the hell do you call blowing up a building full of your political enemy?

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  65. For the love of $imaginary_deity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the name of everything holy, get rid of that goddamn horrible white-on-green design. I actually want to read this section, but not at the cost of setting my eyes on fire.

  66. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You amateur..

    1) Guns are for people with small penises and short man syndrome. They've done nothing but increase the crime rate not lower it.

    2) For those religious nutjobs that don't believe in evolution or the world is older than 8000 years, get over it. If you believe God not only created the world for our sole enjoyment, but created it in one big magic flash with light from distant stars and galaxies already in transit to trick us or test our faith, then you must have a very small opinion of God or an over inflated sense of self presence in the universe.

    3) A womans body is her own and its her choice with what to do with it. However after the first trimester abortion should be illegal as the fetus now has consciousness and is considered a human with rights of its own. (got both sides with that one)

    4) You're a jackass if you vote Republican. Republican politicians fundamentally lie and pander to the religious right to deceive them into voting Republican. They don't actually believe any of that nonsense.

    5) Windows, Linux and Macs ALL suck. In fact computer operating systems are just a fundamentally flawed and bad idea.

    5) Dogs are FAR FAR smarter than cats.

    6) All religions in the world fundamentally talk about and believe in the same thing. Variations and disagreements are simply individual people projecting their own beliefs and warping the intent of the religion to suit their own twisted views.

    How about that?

    --
    Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
  67. Buy a design! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This addition sucks. The formatting makes it impossible to read. Try adding some horizontal rules between the messages or something. I didn't get far before I starting looking for the reply button.

    You would think after this long, it would be a no brainer for slashdot to know ahead of time how to implement a decent design. But of course the last redesign didn't come until after someone did a case study on slashdot saving tens of thousands or more by using some normal things like css files instead of imbedded styles.

    do your self a favor and higher a decent designer or at least pick up a book on it.

    Also, I'm calling the FBI because ****** ***** gave me his pin and I can get the trillion dollars to build human computers.

  68. The last e-mailer by Kelbear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...was incredibly racist.

    It was particularly damning how there were no simple "men" or "women" in that story, just Canadian men, biracial women, black boyfriends, white truck-cap wearing men, caucasian women. How is /any/ of that relevant? He's terribly fixated on race.

    1. Re:The last e-mailer by Digital_Quartz · · Score: 1

      Very true. When he said "I turned to the white people on each side of me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person," all I could think was, why would you do that? Why would you expect other people to go say something if you're not willing to go say something?

      Maybe racism is so bad in Missouri that it wouldn't be safe for him to say something in that situation? I've never been there, so I can't really say.

    2. Re:The last e-mailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Racist or not that guy has a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas.

  69. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 1

    "But a standalone fact is that racism is indeed terrorism. When you call a Black person "nigger", you are referring to a long history of abuse, often lethal (and worse) of Black people. You are saying it to terrorize them. Not just personally, but as part of a whole group of people that you are trying to intimidate. That's an instance of using threats for political effects: suppressing Black people by singling one out as a representative of all Black people, then attacking them as that representative."

    No, it's a word and nothing more. I'm so tired of of this one in particular. The media and just about the entire US is starting to sound like a bunch of little school children by constantly reffering to it as "The 'N' word". How is it that the word "Nigger" has become so offensive that it's no longer PC to say it when it's not even being used in a derogatory manner. It's not even acceptable to say it even when explaining how ignorant a person or group is for using it. (E g. I can't believe that women called my friend a nigger!) However if you are black, it is perfectly acceptable to refer to other "black" people as, "Nigga". What the fuck is that about! It's either offensive or it's not. You can't "reclaim" word simply by changing the way it's spelled. It's either a new word, or you're accepting it as being non-offensive. Furthermore, shouldn't it be considered racist to have a word that only a certain race is allowed to use? If "nigga" is supposed to be some way of making the term acceptable, then everyone should be free to use it. I've had idiots call me by stereo-typical racial terms many times in my life and frankly I just don't care. To me it's simply a word and has not power over me unless I choose to give it such. I just don't get why so many people allow this kind of stupidity to bother them. In doing so, it simply encourages it.

  70. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Implicit in the term, when used in the context from the letter, is a threat of physical bodily harm -- in this case, a lynching.

    Not really terrorism, but I can see why it might be perceived that way. It actually is very close, when used like this.

    Contrast this to the domestic terrorism of certain people who support PETA have been doing in California and of certain people who support an errant fundamentalist-interpretation of Christianity have been doing against abortion providers.

    So it is not terrorism. But to the extent it is meant to make black people feel ill at ease being out in public, a political objective of the white power movement, it borders on terrorism.

  71. this isn't somethingawful.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These emails are hardly interesting or funny and neither is the editors commentary. I know you guys probably crunched some numbers and came to the conclusion that if you started tossing up enough "randum lolol" shit that you'll increase the page hits at the expense of some long time readers. Great trade off huh?

    Meanwhile there's plenty interesting stuff being posted on other news sites and even the lowliest of blogs that never will grace the front page of slashdot.

  72. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard a man once say that when black people would stop using the word "nigger", he would too. Although I personally dislike the word, I think he has a valid point.

    I don't. "Black people" are not a homogeneous group, there are plenty of them who don't call each other "niggers". Why should we demean them because the term has been incorporated into the broken English spoken in ghettos?

    There's something about letting the most ignorant members of society set our agenda that doesn't sit well with me.

  73. Pluh-ease by hurfy · · Score: 1

    "When you call a Black person "nigger""

    Define 'you' please...

    Is that white people?
    How about other blacks?

    Or did you just assume everyone here is white?

    Have you heard how some blacks talk with/about each other in private? I only went to one family get-together with my very black SO for that reason.

    So they are terrorizing their own relatives and neighbors ? That would give one a lower impression of them than a simple racist would hold wouldn't it? Or is it OK if they call their neighbor a nigger because they are all black. Is that fair?

    At least they didn't talk about me (being very white) but still quite uncomfortable. And left me with nothing to add to conversations as every other word seemed to be nigger and I wasn't about to jump in. Seemed quite rude to me, but the food was good.

    Hmm must be a seperate setting to add my lines back in in Idle . This section is strange :/

  74. Ummm by Kylere · · Score: 1

    Who tagged this as "humor"?

  75. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by akadruid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's essential for our national security to stretch the word terrorism to encompass anything you wish terrorism laws to be used for.

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    "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything." (attrib. Joseph Stalin)
  76. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Necrobruiser · · Score: 1

    Easy there, John Rocker! Just 'cause it's true doesn't mean you can say it out loud.....

    --
    "I planned within my means and got a fixed rate mortgage, so where's MY bailout?" -cafepress
  77. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by JeanCroix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Almost a 10/10. You forgot vi versus emacs.

  78. Banned ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And just how do you managed to get banned from slashdot ?

    First - how do you insult someone that badly on here?
    Second - didn't know slashdot control THAT much of the internet !

  79. It's official. by Metasquares · · Score: 1

    Slashdot has officially jumped the shark.

  80. Executive Summary Please by daveywest · · Score: 1

    If this is going to continue, please consider the possibility of trimming down the long stuff to just the funny parts. Or in other words, if you can't say something funny or insightful, just don't say anything at all.

    1. Re:Executive Summary Please by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Given that its only three letters, I think this was the executive summary.

  81. kill the italics by bugi · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I find white on this green quite readable, though for me it would be most readable as white on black. At least it's not yellow on blue.

    The italics however, must go. Or at least italicize the editorial comments instead of the quoted material.

  82. It's SUPPOSED to fail miserably! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Seriously? Guys? This is complete FAIL.

    That's the POINT of Idle! Corporate wants Slashdot to become the next Digg or Fark. Taco does not, so he's setting this up to fail miserably. He posted as much on another Idle story.

    And it seems to be working, so keep up the complaints!

  83. Do not look at Idle.slashdot by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...with remaining eye.

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    Weaselmancer
    rediculous.
  84. Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by Antwerp+Atom · · Score: 1

    You can make the article a bit more readable using the negative plugin of compiz-fusion (linux).
    When you press superkey+n it changes to black on pink :).

    1. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by NoStrings · · Score: 1

      On a Mac, try "Command, Option, Control, 8" to invert the colours.

    2. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by oedneil · · Score: 0

      Black on pink? OMG, Ponies!!

    3. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a Mac, try "Command, Option, Control, 8" to invert the colours.

      This works... made it easier to read

    4. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      super+m does the entire desktop. super+n does the window.

    5. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by no1home · · Score: 1

      Or use the "Darken" bookmarklet:
      javascript:(function(){var%20newSS,%20styles='*%20{%20background:%20black%20!%20important;%20color:%20grey%20!important%20}%20:link,%20:link%20*%20{%20color:%20#0000EE%20!important%20}%20:visited,%20:visited%20*%20{%20color:%20#551A8B%20!important%20}';%20if(document.createStyleSheet)%20{%20document.createStyleSheet(%22javascript:'%22+styles+%22'%22);%20}%20else%20{%20newSS=document.createElement('link');%20newSS.rel='stylesheet';%20newSS.href='data:text/css,'+escape(styles);%20document.getElementsByTagName(%22head%22)[0].appendChild(newSS);%20}%20})();

      --
      I hope this comment is well received... I could have moderated instead!

      Persecutors will be violated!
    6. Re:Negative plugin in compiz-fusion. by slarrg · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that OMG Ponies!!! pink background still wasn't attractive. ;)

  85. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Lol - actually I've always loved vi, but found the convenience of emacs too hard to ignore for general purpose editing.

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    Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
  86. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    But a standalone fact is that racism is indeed terrorism. When you call a Black person "nigger", you are referring to a long history of abuse, often lethal (and worse) of Black people.

    So sticks and stones may break your bones but names should get people sent to Guantanamo?

    --
    Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  87. Over at El Reg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...you can get better wacko in comments by "amanfromMars" on any given day. This is farm league stuff by comparison.

  88. idle is FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we're all niggers now

  89. This makes more sense by Marvin01 · · Score: 1

    I'm in search for one of your representatives, or National Security. I have been blocked from Slashdot. I have done nothing worthy of being banned and if you would take a few minutes of your time to think about this and then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said something so lowlife in a letter. Apologize to my isp, I called at yelled at them yesterday thinking it was their fault. Finally, I want a written promise that you will soon see. I've even tried try to get the HAARP to tune into me, so they could see me which would see him. This is just the beginning of what I know I'm using the right password why won't you let me in the same Applebee's. The first time was about five years ago when I listen, I can hear him telling people he's playing God and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to his modo di pensare. I didn't write that my little brother did but I really don't want to get into National Security. He helped himself into instruments and institutions, and began using them incorrectly and illegally. I am offering National Security or anyone else again. If you do not meet these demands in 10 business days, I will be forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know. Eugene, Oregon's FBI seem to be full of idiots or his "Change Your mind Method" is working pretty damn good. Right now I can't! I'm mailing you from the library right now cause you won't let me on the internet!

    Your move asshole!

  90. Let Mommy and Daddy have the keyboard back, dear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that Mom and Dad have control of the computer again...it's not smart to let little kids use the Internet unsupervised. Lock the OS next time you walk away from the keyboard, okay?

  91. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by Daimanta · · Score: 3, Funny

    He argues that both editors could live together!

    Stone him!

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    Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
  92. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by pnewhook · · Score: 1

    I've stopped coding a long time ago. See point 5 above.

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    Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
  93. Not improving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "idle.slashdot.org: an idea whose time still hasn't come"

    These post still aren't funny. They're just annoying, puerile and against the spirit of slashdot.

    1. Re:Not improving by DarenN · · Score: 1

      "idle.slashdot.org: an idea whose time still hasn't come"
      These post still aren't funny. They're just annoying, puerile and against the spirit of slashdot.

      That's not entirely true. The first one made me laugh. I mean

      Finally, I want a written promise that you will never do this to me or anyone else again. If you do not meet these demands in 10 business days, I will be forced to take drastic action, including but not limited to: emailing everyone I know to tell them of how you treat innocent users or reading my news else where. Your move asshole!

      Priceless. Nerd stereotypes everywhere have been replaced by this shining example of what living in your mothers basement and never meeting a girl can do to you :)

      (ps. Problem with the quote tags?)

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      Rational thought is the only true freedom
  94. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by nurightshu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Uh, hate to break it to you there, but if you're referring to the Tarika Wilson shooting in Lima, Ohio, by Officer Joseph Chavalia, you're leaving out some salient points (and, might I add, attempting to smear the victim with irrelevancies).

    For starters, she wasn't just "shot during a drug raid". That implies that the target(s) of the raid exchanged fire with the Lima police department. What actually happened is that another Lima police officer shot and killed the two dogs that lived in the house. Chavalia mistook the shots of a fellow officer for incoming fire from a bedroom where Wilson was holding her infant son. Without stopping to identify a target, Chavalia fired blindly into the bedroom, striking both Wilson (who died) and her son, who — thank whatever deity you like — survived.

    A jury concluded that the officer had a reasonable fear for his life, which is something that juries have been singularly unable to do for innocent citizens who, when their homes were unjustly invaded by militarized police officers, sought to defend themselves against people they believed to be criminal intruders. See, for example, Derrick Foster, Corey Maye, or Ryan Frederick.

    Was the Tarika Wilson shooting racially motivated? Almost certainly not. Was Joseph Chavalia's acquittal a miscarriage of justice? I believe so.

    If we hold police officers to a lower standard than the citizenry they are supposed to be protecting, we do nothing less than create a government-sanctioned criminal organization, one without conscience or accountability.

    NB: Before you start calling me a bleeding-heart liberal or some such similar crap, I'm actually a former USAF Security Policeman. I just happen to believe that putting military hardware into the hands of police, giving them a macho name like SWAT, glamorizing their ass-kicking behavior in movies and reality television, and then expecting them to behave with restraint when they're sent out to serve non-violent drug warrants is a pretty damned stupid policy.

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    They that would sacrifice their .sig space for that cliched Franklin quote deserve neither.
  95. I can't read this... by greymond · · Score: 1

    With everything written in italics, and no real header between what is an email and what is a comment I not only had trouble reading, I gave up about two sentences in. Also the white text on a green background is awful.

    Please die. Thanks.

  96. A point for point. by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

    As others have pointed out, there isn't that level of control over the RSS feed.

    Well, there IS a level of control over whether or not you read or don't read an article, isn't there? But I do understand the sentiment. My TV has the same problem, sometimes there's stuff on I don't like, and I really don't have much control over some of the pap they show there, but you know, it never would occur to me that I have to like or appreciate everything that's on. It takes so much effort for me to just click a button on the remote to either change the channel or turn it off. So is what you're basically saying is that you only want stuff you LIKE in the RSS feed? Ahh. That's a pretty reasonable thing to ask for. Perhaps I was a bit too hasty in my response.

    And we are trying to do Slashdot a favor by pointing out the things that piss its precious users off, since without those users the site is worthless.

    Given the level of conversation around here most of the time, I'd say it has little to do with the fact that either the users are precious or that without them the site is worthless. Personally, the links to the articles are infinitely more valuable than about 99% of the comments posted in their wake. But that's just a personal observation.

    But you are doing such a great service posting a poll which is either "yes" or "abstain". If you really wanted to get the feel for the user on the ground, you would have given them a "no, I rather enjoy this" option. But this isn't about them, it's about you, as your poll so gracefully illustrates.

    You know you're in trouble if the inflation of your ego causes your hat to feel tight. Time to get a bigger cap, there?

    If you are saying that you enjoy kdawson's work and the Idle section, then do so clearly for the benefit of the discussion. If you just want to be a prick, well, I guess you've come to the right place but it sure doesn't give you a lot of credibility.

    You want a contribution to the obviously highbrow intellectual discourse? Fine, not a problem.

    I don't necessarily like kdawson's work OR the Idle section, as I find it a little hit or miss. Sometimes good. Sometimes bad. Like all things. Yet I find it a bit on the side of unacceptably presumptuous of you to assume (as your poll illustrates) that your particular detestation is so widely shared as to be axiomatic, and this in light of the fact that you KNOW you don't like it as a more general rule and feel the need to say so. Is it so unlikely that some might enjoy it? And is it also so unlikely that THEY don't necessarily feel the need to comment on just how much they do? And what is your motivation for your little one-option poll? It's clogging up your RSS feed? To up the quality quotient of Slashdot as a whole to a level you feel owed? I can almost see the righteous purpose behind your post if it weren't obfuscated by a haze of self-importance.

    I guess if I'm a prick, I did come to the right place, and responded to the right person. As for MY credibility, well I'm not really concerned about that. If there is room for it, it will come out by my words and my deeds. And if I was found to be lacking in this regard in your opinion, well, I'd probably sleep OK knowing that a person who hasn't exactly gone out of the way to earn MY respect (and, judging by your comment, probably never will earn my respect,) finds my opinions and comments unworthy of his consideration.

    But I will say that a person valuing "the benefit of discussion" so much as to basically tout a joke poll as "discussion," while taking a strident comment which lambastes it (and IMHO, deservedly so) is the one truly lacking in credibility. Hypocrisy is the wormsign of a person who shouldn't be taken as particularly credible.

    Besides, I've been here way longer than you have. :P

    Woo. You want a cookie? Perhaps a balloon?

    1. Re:A point for point. by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Five-digit UIDs already got cookies in 2003.

  97. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by 42Penguins · · Score: 1

    I was just trying to give a quick example - all the intricacies brought out in court would have ended up with way too long a post for my point, which was pointed (as you know) at the Black Ministerial Alliance and a certain city councilman.

  98. Now that my seizure has settled down . . . by az-saguaro · · Score: 1

    !drawkcab siht daer ot gniyrt ekil si neerg no etihw gnidaeR
    .
    (Hold your monitor up to a mirror to see what it really says.)

    1. Re:Now that my seizure has settled down . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh. There must be something to that, since I can read backwards quite comfortably, and I like the white on green.

      No mirror required :)

  99. Should be in Ask Slashdot by eyrieowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    why was the last one not posted on Ask Slashdot? Clearly it belongs there, not under idle. At least the discussion would be interesting....

  100. From the summary... by Kagura · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They continued spewing out all sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to their ignorance ...

    Alright, man. You're not the racist. Don't worry.

  101. LEARN2FORMATPLZTHX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BLOCKQUOTE or something FTW

  102. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by geekoid · · Score: 1

    There are no hatefull words, just hateful contexts.
    I can find plenty of none hateful uses of the word nigger.

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    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  103. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Americium · · Score: 1

    Every kid in the nation says "nigga" all the time. (not applicable to nerds) They repeat everything they see on MTV or BET, it's the way it was and the way it will be. The rap artists are 100% responsible for this.

    Every now and then some old white racist says nigger, but this was in Missouri for christ sakes, of course they are racist down there. That's like being surprised their IQ is really low, or that they voted for Bush.

    If mexicans and peurto ricans can make their way up to NYC and NJ, I'm sure the black people living down south have the ability to do that as well. At least everyone hates everyone up there, and the racism is mostly just for amusement in NYC

  104. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    "But to the extent it is meant to make black people feel ill at ease being out in public, a political objective of the white power movement, it borders on terrorism."
    Wacked.
    First this was at best some idiot. Probably the only movement they where worried about is the next bowel movement.
    Second since when is being made to fell uncomfortable terrorism? Guess what sparky. I will bet you a dollar that idiots playing Gangster make people uncomfortable all the time.
    Heck people blasting profanity filled music so load that I can hear it in my care with the windows up and the AC on and my stereo playing makes me uncomfortable but it sure isn't terrorism.
    As I said letting idiots have way to much power over you.

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  105. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which number 5? I can see how both would apply.

  106. Re:Publicizing trolls? You're worse than hitler! by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

    So your dog does your coding for you now?

  107. huh? what huh? by baydat · · Score: 1

    yawwwwwwn....

  108. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by MightyYar · · Score: 1

    I can find plenty of none hateful uses of the word nigger.

    Even when two black guys use it in a warm context, the reason that they use the word is because it represents a shared hardship. The word, all alone and without context, stirs up powerful emotions.

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  109. color scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is in fact horrifying.

    However, if for some reason you wanted to read it, without fscking around with preferences or css mangling, theres a far easier solution: copy/paste. Just select/mark the text, copy it, and then paste it into something where you can read it.

    Of course, it still would be a good idea for the eds to make it readable in the first place.

  110. I'd rather have blink and marquee tags with GIFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and horrible use of frames than this layout schema.

    IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THIS HORRIBLE COLOR SCHEME for the love of god PLEASE AT LEAST MAKE THE WHITE TEXT BOLD / AND OR USE A BETTER FONT.

  111. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by mr_gorkajuice · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, "black-skinned people" don't entirely suffice... it should be "black-skinned people with bigger lips and dicks, a skull structure not entirely identical to that of white-skinned people, better sense of rhythm and the ability to jump". Seriously though, in this age, nigger is just slang for negroid, negroid is an indication or race, refusing to acknowledge the existence of races is stupid (I can tell whether someone is a nigger, a caucasian or a mongol in less than a second with 99% (+/-1) success rate, and it doesn't even make me feel special!) All you niggers out there, tell me how often you've been offended by another nigger saying nigger. But as soon as a white man says it, he's "referring to a history of abuse". Pfft. Yes, racism is bad, but nigger is just a word. I personally feel really awkward saying "black people" - cause nigger is easier, it's more integrated in popular language, and most importantly - when I say "black person", I'm being conscious about how this is supposedly some exposed group, whom we must protect and shield by constantly referring to them in politically correct terms. I call a shovel a shovel, and a nigger a nigger - treating niggers differently is racism, and I would be treating them differently if I in fact *were* overly conscious about what I called them. That being said, I rarely use that term, cause a persons race is rarely relevant for anything. And btw, niggers can be racists too - Chris Rock certainly seems to hate white people...

  112. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    I agree with your post completely - that is my personal policy and belief. I don't go around calling anyone "nigger". But it annoys me when a black person uses that word but insists that white people don't. It's hypocracy. If you don't like a word, don't use it yourself.

    The way to combat racism is to act like a decent human being, to everyone.

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  113. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Moderation -1
        60% Overrated
        30% Insightful
        10% Interesting

    Those 60:40 negative mods, and the 18 replies that insistently fail to understand either racism or terrorism, are the clear evidence that we're not going to see the end of either racism or terrorism any time soon.

    Even in a Slashdot discussion, people will not think about how attacking one person as an arbitrary representative of their entire large group is a political act, and how violence used to intimidate a group for political effect is terrorism. Refusing to think about it is how we keep it.

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  114. Way off the mark (and green too) by bratwiz · · Score: 1

    This stuff is junk. Blah, blech, phooey. I thought this stuff was supposed to be funny? Its just pathetic-- and not in a nice way.

    And who picked the color scheme-- ugh. Looks like someone puked up alphabet soup all over the screen.

    Someone get a mop 'n clean this shit up!

  115. Sounds like you need another. by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

    And maybe a nap on the blankie.

  116. Thanks ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I contacted *******. he just wrote me a check for 400 million ! This is awesome !

  117. Mod parent up. by classicalnewt · · Score: 1

    You make some good points. Having worked with schizophrenics, I completely agree. Once I realized that the writer of the e-mail was likely mentally ill, the story wasn't amusing at all. Some people who should know better can be tormented (within reason), but not the mentally ill who can't help their behaviors.

  118. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by Pandarsson · · Score: 1

    "I heard a man once say that when black people would stop using the word "nigger", he would too. Although I personally dislike the word, I think he has a valid point.

    "Black people" don't use that word. I've often heard this kind of logic used by racists in the interest of dismissing objections to their behavior. Under the same logic, "men" beat "women". I suppose you're okay with that, too.

  119. Re:Racist Attacks are Terrorism by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    "Black people" don't use that word.

    That is the most disingenuous statement I've ever heard, unless your difinitions are as twisted as your logic, or you have never met any working class black people or seen movies with black people in it.

    Under the same logic, "men" beat "women".

    First, I didn't say I was ok with that word, as you can see from the statement you quoted. Second, your "logic" is quite twisted. "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never harm me." Words do not equal physical attacks.

    I think you're trolling.

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    mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest