The real problem is that Iran is not letting international inspectors see their installations. Remember what happened to Iraq in a similar case?
Are you referring to the make believe WMD's that they allegedly had that the weapons inspectors were unable to find? Big difference here. What the heck right does the US have to tell Iran that they can't have nukes?
Well, I suppose this means you would also throw power steering, anti-lock braking systems, traction control and so on out of your car because you like it the traditional way.
No, but if you throw drive by wire in my car there's a snowball's chance in hell I'd buy it. I like technology a lot, but I think certain things are better handled mechanically than by computers.
Turn a wheel to send a signal to a computer to turn your wheels? Press the gas to send a computer a signal to open the throttle more?
Nothing? It costs you one parent's income. That's more expensive than private school.
My wife stays home with our daughter because it's better for her. We have a $400,000 in the suburbs instead of a $600,000 house in town because of it.
It's all about choices. Society isn't responsible for your choices, only you are. You can choose to live in an apartment or a townhouse and have your wife stay at home so you can be a single income family. You've chosen not to and blame society for your choices.
Parents need to get away from that bullshit desire that if you have money to buy your kids stuff, it's okay to dish them off to day cares, the school system and grandparents so that you can earn more money to have more stuff. Truth is, kids need their parents, not an xbox.
Because the alternatives aren't really feasible for most people. Give them the cash that the public school would spend on their kid and let them take it to a private school -- that's an option that works.
Not having the cash to send your kid to a school that shares your believes is not the same as having school forced upon them. You are free to home school your kids if you like and that costs you nothing.
The GP makes a valid point by saying you can home school your kids. You counter with : I don't have the money to send my kids to a private school. That's a straw man fallacy. Many people have the means to home school their kids.
I prefer to keep an open mind until an independant review validates or invalidates their findings. Whatever happened to the scientific method here folks??? They have made an observation and a hypothesis around their observation. Now let's see if an independant review will validate or invalidate their findings...
Do they claim to have broken the law in physics that energy cannot be created or destroyed? They claim free energy, not newly created energy. IMO those claims are vastly different no?
No please get rid of Insert, I would give blood, sweat and tears for that!
Actually, in a geek magazine I read, that was one of the quick and cheap mods to do to your computer. It's the most annoying key because it's next to backspace.
At work and at home I just pop that key out. I can't stand it either. Think I might start popping out the caps key too.
You seem to have a blind faith that the human brain is capable of understanding every facet of the universe. Why is that?
First fallacy. You assume the the human brain need understand every facet of the universe. In fact, I'd argue that a single brain is probably incapable of understanding it all. But your fallacy is thinking that it's one brain that need understand it all.
Second fallacy - you assume that every facet of the universe is not understandable. That's a circular argument you cannot prove either way. You can neither prove or disprove that every facet of the universable is not understandable. However you can say that we continue to understand at a growing pace.
Seriously, it's humanity that understands things, not just a single human brain. HUGE difference.
You seem to be confusing Fact and Truth. To intertwine Science with Truth would be a huge mistake. Leave the pursuit of Truth for philosophy and religion.
What???? Fact leads to Truth. Science finds facts that find truth to assertions.
Prove that MOST don't. Statistically speaking that is. I would say that iTunes has had amazing success, all of their downloads are from paying consumers.
Does most mean 10% of music holders? 5%? What's "MOST" as you put it?
Personally I download music from bands that I enjoy, and I support them by going to their shows.
There's nothing "draconian" about paying someone for their work. Paying someone for their efforts isn't just a business model, it's common sense, fairness, and the keystone of economics.
Of course the gray part is fair use and what constitutes it.
Recall a while ago that a writer's group was getting pissed that Amazon facilitated the ability for book owners to resell their old books.
Also consider that music is freely available on the airwaves, and I have a right to record what's on the airwaves. So if something is already available for free (I don't have to listen to the commercials do I? I can change the station at any time), and I am freely able to record it, should I not be able to hand that recording to the person who too has access to the same freely available music?
If I want to support an artist, I'll go to their concert. I won't give a dime to the RIAA.
I'd say that a company being focused intently on its competitors is a staple of business, isn't it?
No, a company who copies instead of innovates is problematic.
Look, Apple takes good ideas from Microsoft and vice versa. And while we're at it, anyone seen all the stuff in xgl? Looks like that was copied much of all from Apple.
A good idea is a good idea. Microsoft has had some, Apple's had more, and sometimes the Linux world has them too... It's really silly to finger one as a copy cat when they all do it.
Since when are banks required to protect themselves against people who have keyloggers on their computers? Not really much one can do IMHO if there's a keylogger present...
I guess the only way around it is to have a pin pad and use the mouse to enter in your pin code as well as your pass code.
While their competitors are saying "do no evil", Yahoo seems to be living it.
Need I remind you about the X10 popups? That caused me to switch my home page over to Google and have never, ever looked back.
Perhaps Yahoo is just playing catchup to google with crap like search.yahoo.com and now this. Seems like they are no longer innovating but they are just copying.
Seen their new Mail client? Fully Ajax driven. Hmmm. Gmail anyone?
It's like taking a book and photocopying the pages so that your friend doesn't have to go and buy his/her own copy, but it doesn't seem to cost you anything, so why not?
Back in my university days I quite frequently copied journal articles out of academic journals so I could take them home and write research papers for my classes. Should the journal come knocking on my door?
Really, Libraries lend out books all the time, where people can make photocopies and use them privately as they please. As long as you don't commercially distribute the copy of that book, you are allowed to do so, at least in Canada. US laws are a bit more restrictive from what I understand.
That's BS. SeaMonkey (and Firefox, and Thunderbird, and thousands of other appliactions) isn't a.net application or trivial MFC application, yet somehow runs on all versions of Windows from the past decade (even NT 3.51 with some minor caveats!). It's also not written in Java. It's a pretty serious piece of software.
That's because the UI is written in XUL, and the installer includes all the libraries for it, for all win32 platforms. Not all software for windows is so lucky and portable. You're mistaken about windows apps being portable.
Explain to me how this is not more complicated than Windows where you just go to the program's site and download the installer.
Seriously, have you ever looked at the seamonkey download page where they offer a Fedora Core rpm build?
If you want the ability to be able to download and install, just use Fedora. Don't bitch if you're using a geek Linux like Ubuntu or Gentoo or Slackware or something. Fedora is a pretty usable Desktop OS right now, and most download sites offer rpm builds of their software. Not everything needs to be in a yum repository.
Look, there are other problems with desktop Linux, but the ones you cite aren't the bad ones. Hardware compatibility for example. Or kernel modules you need to recompile every single bloody kernel update. Drivers that only work under ndiswrapper. WPA support in Linux wireless-tools package instead of wpa_supplicant. Those are issues. Wireless support should be friggin' perfect by now, yet lags behind the windows world by a long shot. Those are barriers to penetration much more than the availability of a binary installer (which btw some companies also offer).
I'm not meaning to moralize here. I mean, I can see the reasoning used - "I'm poor, I can't afford to buy it, someone's willing to share it, so why not?"
You don't get this reasoning?
How about "I'm too poor to own a car, but I borrow my parent's whenever I need one".
I am too poor to own a microwave, so I borrow my roommates?
I am too poor to by an arc welder so I borrow one off a friend of mine.
It isn't that complex of a thought process if you really consider it for a moment. Imagine of the maker of that arc welder said that the owner of that arc welder was not allowed to lend it out. What's the difference?
Even for OSS, that's just not the same as being able to distribute one package that works everywhere. On Windows (9x, 2k, XP Home, XP Pro, Vista's 7 versions), I can ship one binary package that works for everybody.
Depends. Do all 9x boxen have the.net runtime? Do they all use the same MFC? Only the most basic program can you make it run on any platform. Or are you coding in Java???
Microsoft doesn't have to approve my package before making it easily available to users - any Windows user can download my one simple installer and have it work for them regardless of their version.
Odd, I use FC5, and I use third party yum repositories for any software not officially provided by the main Fedora repository.
Now look at Linux: there are many different distros, with many different package formats. I'd have to provide RPMs, DEBs, tarballs, and probably multiple versions in each format (since it might depend on different packages for different distros). Users would have to know which package to download.
That's what apt-get or yum are for. And with synaptic or yumex it's a piece of cake.
If the experience is going to be easy, I have to beg the distro's maintainer to provide an official package--some distros are very slow to add new products.
Again, see my comment above about third party repositories.
A real-world example of this is SeaMonkey [mozilla.org]. How long will it be until Debian users can install the software easily? Windows users can have the latest version as soon as we ship it. Linux users generally have to wait for their distro to provide an updated package.
That's odd. pbone.net has Seamonkey in their repository. If I want it, I can get it here...snip
but the vast majority of people just want to install a binary using whatever method they normally use (e.g. google for the website, download an installer, or search Synaptic, etc).
See comments above about third party repositories. If you want to be bleeding edge, that's your problem, not the distro's.
At the risk of over-generalizing my own experience, groups that do development like the transparancy of distros like Gentoo or Debian or one of the BSDs
Unless you're a java developer... Java support on *BSD is really lacking:
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The real problem is that Iran is not letting international inspectors see their installations. Remember what happened to Iraq in a similar case?
Are you referring to the make believe WMD's that they allegedly had that the weapons inspectors were unable to find? Big difference here. What the heck right does the US have to tell Iran that they can't have nukes?
IMO Dubya is just as fascist as Iran's president.
Well, I suppose this means you would also throw power steering, anti-lock braking systems, traction control and so on out of your car because you like it the traditional way.
No, but if you throw drive by wire in my car there's a snowball's chance in hell I'd buy it. I like technology a lot, but I think certain things are better handled mechanically than by computers.
Turn a wheel to send a signal to a computer to turn your wheels? Press the gas to send a computer a signal to open the throttle more?
No bloody way.
Nothing? It costs you one parent's income. That's more expensive than private school.
My wife stays home with our daughter because it's better for her. We have a $400,000 in the suburbs instead of a $600,000 house in town because of it.
It's all about choices. Society isn't responsible for your choices, only you are. You can choose to live in an apartment or a townhouse and have your wife stay at home so you can be a single income family. You've chosen not to and blame society for your choices.
Parents need to get away from that bullshit desire that if you have money to buy your kids stuff, it's okay to dish them off to day cares, the school system and grandparents so that you can earn more money to have more stuff. Truth is, kids need their parents, not an xbox.
Because the alternatives aren't really feasible for most people. Give them the cash that the public school would spend on their kid and let them take it to a private school -- that's an option that works.
Not having the cash to send your kid to a school that shares your believes is not the same as having school forced upon them. You are free to home school your kids if you like and that costs you nothing.
The GP makes a valid point by saying you can home school your kids. You counter with : I don't have the money to send my kids to a private school. That's a straw man fallacy. Many people have the means to home school their kids.
and as i recall it actually has some pretty scary consequences associated with it,
Probably not as scary as the consequences for online gambling in Washington State!
I know, offtopic... I still get a kick out of some stupid laws like that sometimes.
Thank god, now finally the damn buzz-word will be gone forever.
Now what'll we use to impress C level management??? Hard work??? I want more jargon! All I have left is Ajax!
I call this bogus
I prefer to keep an open mind until an independant review validates or invalidates their findings. Whatever happened to the scientific method here folks??? They have made an observation and a hypothesis around their observation. Now let's see if an independant review will validate or invalidate their findings...
Do they claim to have broken the law in physics that energy cannot be created or destroyed? They claim free energy, not newly created energy. IMO those claims are vastly different no?
So if you buy the complete album, should they forbid you to skip some tracks?
/me really annoyed with that bullshit policy.
DVD's do it. They forbit you to skip over the advertisements and previews.
No please get rid of Insert, I would give blood, sweat and tears for that!
Actually, in a geek magazine I read, that was one of the quick and cheap mods to do to your computer. It's the most annoying key because it's next to backspace.
At work and at home I just pop that key out. I can't stand it either. Think I might start popping out the caps key too.
You seem to have a blind faith that the human brain is capable of understanding every facet of the universe. Why is that?
First fallacy. You assume the the human brain need understand every facet of the universe. In fact, I'd argue that a single brain is probably incapable of understanding it all. But your fallacy is thinking that it's one brain that need understand it all.
Second fallacy - you assume that every facet of the universe is not understandable. That's a circular argument you cannot prove either way. You can neither prove or disprove that every facet of the universable is not understandable. However you can say that we continue to understand at a growing pace.
Seriously, it's humanity that understands things, not just a single human brain. HUGE difference.
You seem to be confusing Fact and Truth. To intertwine Science with Truth would be a huge mistake. Leave the pursuit of Truth for philosophy and religion.
What???? Fact leads to Truth. Science finds facts that find truth to assertions.
YOU may do that. Most people don't.
Prove that MOST don't. Statistically speaking that is. I would say that iTunes has had amazing success, all of their downloads are from paying consumers.
Does most mean 10% of music holders? 5%? What's "MOST" as you put it?
Personally I download music from bands that I enjoy, and I support them by going to their shows.
There's nothing "draconian" about paying someone for their work. Paying someone for their efforts isn't just a business model, it's common sense, fairness, and the keystone of economics.
Of course the gray part is fair use and what constitutes it.
Recall a while ago that a writer's group was getting pissed that Amazon facilitated the ability for book owners to resell their old books.
Also consider that music is freely available on the airwaves, and I have a right to record what's on the airwaves. So if something is already available for free (I don't have to listen to the commercials do I? I can change the station at any time), and I am freely able to record it, should I not be able to hand that recording to the person who too has access to the same freely available music?
If I want to support an artist, I'll go to their concert. I won't give a dime to the RIAA.
You're damn right... who says I have to use the saw to cut wood.. what if I'm cutting up say.. dead bodies?
Pretty hard to use a table saw to cut up human bodies. Probably better off using a bandsaw or something... Not that I've, er... Tried or anything...
I'd say that a company being focused intently on its competitors is a staple of business, isn't it?
No, a company who copies instead of innovates is problematic.
Look, Apple takes good ideas from Microsoft and vice versa. And while we're at it, anyone seen all the stuff in xgl? Looks like that was copied much of all from Apple.
A good idea is a good idea. Microsoft has had some, Apple's had more, and sometimes the Linux world has them too... It's really silly to finger one as a copy cat when they all do it.
No, HSBC, this is a problem.
Since when are banks required to protect themselves against people who have keyloggers on their computers? Not really much one can do IMHO if there's a keylogger present...
I guess the only way around it is to have a pin pad and use the mouse to enter in your pin code as well as your pass code.
W00t. Three tiered logins. Fun stuff.
While their competitors are saying "do no evil", Yahoo seems to be living it.
Need I remind you about the X10 popups? That caused me to switch my home page over to Google and have never, ever looked back.
Perhaps Yahoo is just playing catchup to google with crap like search.yahoo.com and now this. Seems like they are no longer innovating but they are just copying.
Seen their new Mail client? Fully Ajax driven. Hmmm. Gmail anyone?
It's like taking a book and photocopying the pages so that your friend doesn't have to go and buy his/her own copy, but it doesn't seem to cost you anything, so why not?
Back in my university days I quite frequently copied journal articles out of academic journals so I could take them home and write research papers for my classes. Should the journal come knocking on my door?
Really, Libraries lend out books all the time, where people can make photocopies and use them privately as they please. As long as you don't commercially distribute the copy of that book, you are allowed to do so, at least in Canada. US laws are a bit more restrictive from what I understand.
That's BS. SeaMonkey (and Firefox, and Thunderbird, and thousands of other appliactions) isn't a .net application or trivial MFC application, yet somehow runs on all versions of Windows from the past decade (even NT 3.51 with some minor caveats!). It's also not written in Java. It's a pretty serious piece of software.
That's because the UI is written in XUL, and the installer includes all the libraries for it, for all win32 platforms. Not all software for windows is so lucky and portable. You're mistaken about windows apps being portable.
Explain to me how this is not more complicated than Windows where you just go to the program's site and download the installer.
Seriously, have you ever looked at the seamonkey download page where they offer a Fedora Core rpm build?
If you want the ability to be able to download and install, just use Fedora. Don't bitch if you're using a geek Linux like Ubuntu or Gentoo or Slackware or something. Fedora is a pretty usable Desktop OS right now, and most download sites offer rpm builds of their software. Not everything needs to be in a yum repository.
Look, there are other problems with desktop Linux, but the ones you cite aren't the bad ones. Hardware compatibility for example. Or kernel modules you need to recompile every single bloody kernel update. Drivers that only work under ndiswrapper. WPA support in Linux wireless-tools package instead of wpa_supplicant. Those are issues. Wireless support should be friggin' perfect by now, yet lags behind the windows world by a long shot. Those are barriers to penetration much more than the availability of a binary installer (which btw some companies also offer).
I'm not meaning to moralize here. I mean, I can see the reasoning used - "I'm poor, I can't afford to buy it, someone's willing to share it, so why not?"
You don't get this reasoning?
How about "I'm too poor to own a car, but I borrow my parent's whenever I need one".
I am too poor to own a microwave, so I borrow my roommates?
I am too poor to by an arc welder so I borrow one off a friend of mine.
It isn't that complex of a thought process if you really consider it for a moment. Imagine of the maker of that arc welder said that the owner of that arc welder was not allowed to lend it out. What's the difference?
Even for OSS, that's just not the same as being able to distribute one package that works everywhere. On Windows (9x, 2k, XP Home, XP Pro, Vista's 7 versions), I can ship one binary package that works for everybody.
.net runtime? Do they all use the same MFC? Only the most basic program can you make it run on any platform. Or are you coding in Java???
...snip
Depends. Do all 9x boxen have the
Microsoft doesn't have to approve my package before making it easily available to users - any Windows user can download my one simple installer and have it work for them regardless of their version.
Odd, I use FC5, and I use third party yum repositories for any software not officially provided by the main Fedora repository.
Now look at Linux: there are many different distros, with many different package formats. I'd have to provide RPMs, DEBs, tarballs, and probably multiple versions in each format (since it might depend on different packages for different distros). Users would have to know which package to download.
That's what apt-get or yum are for. And with synaptic or yumex it's a piece of cake.
If the experience is going to be easy, I have to beg the distro's maintainer to provide an official package--some distros are very slow to add new products.
Again, see my comment above about third party repositories.
A real-world example of this is SeaMonkey [mozilla.org]. How long will it be until Debian users can install the software easily? Windows users can have the latest version as soon as we ship it. Linux users generally have to wait for their distro to provide an updated package.
That's odd. pbone.net has Seamonkey in their repository. If I want it, I can get it here
but the vast majority of people just want to install a binary using whatever method they normally use (e.g. google for the website, download an installer, or search Synaptic, etc).
See comments above about third party repositories. If you want to be bleeding edge, that's your problem, not the distro's.
The Canada site didn't support Linux and Firefox, so I just waited it out until the census people called me. They had to make it stupidly difficult...
In Firefox, right click on the link, click on `Open Link in New Tab'.
... and in Windows, middle click closes the tab. Although in Linux it refreshes the tab.
Just middle click on the link. Faster.
Stupid default settings for FF that are not the same across OS's...
What are these ads that people are clicking on? I haven't seen one for a very long time now...
Thank you adblock and adblock filterset.g and me blocking that google script. Life is much better without that crap anyway.
^_^
like the transparancy of distros like Gentoo or Debian or one of the BSDs
Unless you're a java developer... Java support on *BSD is really lacking:
(from FreeBSD's Java site
W00t. No guarantees in Usability.
I a a FreeBSD FanBoi, but that's not acceptable if you're a java developer.