I think a lot of people are under the impression "Yeah, Fedora is just Red Hat under a new name". Fedora is a completely different beast all together. I wouldn't put Fedora in the same class as Mandrake or Suse. Fedora is muich more cutting edge/ development oriented. The type of crowd that actually should be using Fedora aren't going to have to boot back into Windows to read info about their problem. They will boot back into their other linux partition, mount the Fedora partition, chroot to it, and fix the problem.
isn't the adoption of "Linux" already blown?
Fedora is wrongly reccomended to those that haven't already adopted linux completely. Everyone really should stop using Fedora and Red Hat synonimously because they aren't. If you want to adopt people to Linux, reccomend Suse or even Mandrake. Reccomending Fedora is like reccomending Debian to a newbie.
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The term "scalable" has become an industry buzzword. It is fruitless to argue whether something is scalable or not if there is no clear defination. It's like arguing whether you believe in freedom or not. Of course most people in the world will say they believe in freedom, but if you ask 100 people to define it you will get 100 different answers (the Bush administration has had a field day with this because the minute you oppose them, they accuse you of not believing in freedom; their defination of course).
It is impossible to say php is or is not scalable unless a defination can be agreed on. And with "scalable's" current buzzword status, I don't see that happening very soon.
Looking at it, it's not minimalist in the same sense google is. Google has a lot of content that is extremely well organized without a lot of extra crud. Google's content is well formatted and easy to read. Simply taking out your ads and superfluous fonts and graphics doesn't make put in the same ranks as google.
For the most part, the only one in the community who actually believes Sun is in the same ranks as MS and SCO is Pamela Jones. But a zealot of zealot's isn't a representation of the community. Yes, Sun wants to make money. That doesn't make them evil. They have given back a lot and anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously misguided.
Look at it all from the college's prospective. It's EXTREMELY expensive to contantly identify and quarentine infected machines. Viruses and malware in general take a huge bite out of the universities limited bandwidth. After months/years of fighting the losing cycle of identify -> block, something else has to be done. Yeah, it really sucks, but you'll be glad when your connection becomes 50% faster overnight. It's really not their fault Windows is a piece of crap and that end users don't do anything about their infected machines. From their prospective, they've got a 10 megabit connection, and 5 megabits of that is being used by complete and utter crap. Not even p2p, but machines scanning other machines to try and infect them. You just eventually reach a frustration point where nothing else works and you have to punish everyone because there is little other choice.
Oracle is fast on high end hardware. Otherwise it is in fact one of the slowest databases. For example I put it on an Athlon XP 2500+ machine with a gig of ram, and not only did it instantly eat up all the ram, but performed marginally. A single Oracle connection requires 10 times the amount of ram as compared to a lightweight database such as MySQL. You've oversimplified things by just saying Oracle is fast. If given the right hardware, query time outweighs connection time, and the databases are extremely huge, Oracle performs well. Otherwise, it's too resource intensive to use reasonably.
Who knows if it will flop or fly for what you've described it for, but I can think of a lot of good uses for it in the private sector.
Current time clock systems allow for a lot of cheating. "Here's my timecard, I'm going home early. Please clock me out". Timecard fraud becomes much easier to prevent when you can't just give someone your card to clock you out.
Most people HATE remembering passwords. If given the choice, most people would gladly trade in all their pins and passwords for the ability to have an iris scan identify them. Even if told it's not perfect.
What about cars? I'd love to be able to just open my door and while my hand is in contact with the handle scan my fingerprint and remember how I like my seat, mirrors, etc. adjusted.
I remember when Netscape first introduced cookies everyone was up and arms about the privacy issues. People were PISSED. And yes, plenty of people have abused cookies. But the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Almost all current web login systems use cookies. If we didn't have cookies we'd have to use a dirty work around like putting cookie data in the url for GET requests (which is incredibly insecure).
Biometrics are a good thing for day to day life. Very rarely does anything that sets out to change the world actually do; but it can definatly make the world a little easier to live in and help the average person immensely.
All of the filesystems tested are pretty mature. Reiserfs had some early 2.4 kernel issues (but then again, what didn't!). JFS is the "youngest" of all those (Well, JFS on linux anyway). A filesystem would have to be of pretty shitty design these days to have random corruption issues. You'd be more likely to have hard drive issues before random filesystem corruption issues.
It's been a year now, guys. The completely unrelated SCO comments are old. The "wow, only 699 dollars" comments were funny for like a week. First post, GNAA, and other completely random stuff gets modded down quickly, so why doesn't this? There was a SCO story today. Make all the stupid comments there. They don't belong in every story.
The reason companies outsource to China, India, etc. is because they can get away with paying these people next to nothing. They literally wouldn't be able to legally pay these people those wages in the US because they are below minimum wage. It's not about quality or anything like that. It's because these people live in such poor countries they can be paid next to nothing. If they legally could, I'm sure these companies would have slaves. If they want to pay these people the SAME US wages I have no problem with that.
You probably want to try Andrew Morton's kernel patches. I've got some servers running his kernel patches and it's nearly impossible to make the damn things swap. Machines with uptimes of 4 months and more, and top shows swap file usage at 0 kilobytes. His kernel patches generally give quite a performence gain. I don't know how they would react under an environment of older machines though.
Her article is Sun FUD. I don't see how it's any different when FUD is coming out of her mouth as opposed to Steve Balmer. She is criticizing a product based on how she feels about a company. That's very hypocritical. Is it fair to criticize open source software based on a dislike for RMS? Then how is it all of a sudden ok to criticize JDS based on a dislike for Sun?
For how much they must have paid in licensing costs, that's not too unreasonable. This seems like the first product of it's kind. If it's successful the price will undoubtedly come down considerbly. And yes, I know the parent is trying to be funny. =P
PJ is not a programmer, lawyer, or analyst, she is a paralegal. I don't see why her comments are newsworthy to begin with. It seems PJ just looks for things to be high and mighty about sometimes. A lot of noob friendly distros attempt to hide the fact you're using linux. So what? Lindows renames a lot of programs to generic names; such as renaming Mozilla to "Web Browser" and things of that nature. How many people actually know their linksys router is a linux based product. Or that their DVR runs linux. Complaining about something like that becomes complaining just for the sake of being a zealot.
Heh, I know this goes against everyone's opinion here and we'll both be modded down, but it needs to be said...
Groklaw offers up many legal "opinions", but most of these are full of bias and B.S. They have about as much grounding as the pundits PJ is always complaining about. It's extrememly hypocritical of Groklaw to constantly complain about the pundits and talking heads that ground their arguments in FUD when Groklaw does the exact same thing. PJ makes wild accusations all the time but people seem to forget quickly. PJ is neither a lawyer nor a programmer. She tends to offer about as much insight as Rob Enderle.
Sometimes I question the intelligence of the people writing these things. People were complaining about trivial things. Large documents not saved in their native format taking as long as 10 extra seconds to open. Be fucking glad you can open them at all in open office. Office can only open it's own native file formats. If anything, I'd bitch Office can't open other formats. Furthermore, cons were listed as basically "OpenOffice.org isn't Office, so your users won't be used to it". Statements like that are moronic. Of course it's not Office. It stands on it's own. All the cons basically stem from "It's not Office". People complained about things as trivial as they had to learn new key combination shortcuts. If your organization is so fickle that you'd choose Office over OpenOffice.org because of different key bindings, slightly different layout, and documents taking slightly longer to open, then I say go ahead, waste your money.
I wouldn't exactly say what he does is education. Many times he just scares users by taking a security situtation and blowing it out of proportion. For example, the XP raw sockets fiasco, or syn flooding routers with a spoofed source address of the host being attacked. Both of those are problems, but the way he talked about them, he acted like they would bring the internet to a stand still.
RC1 was announced already, announcing RC2 on slashdot is just a bit superfulious. When 5.0 is released it will be news worthy, but rc2 isn't really news, espically since rc1 got it's own slashdot story.
We wouldn't have to deal with Real's bullshit if Media Player didn't force them to go to such steps. There was a time when Real player was spyware and adware free. Anyway, I think this would be a good time to get an official port of mplayer to windows so it could spank them both like a couple of bitches.
Speaking of perl...
I really wish lanugages would start implementing the ~ operator from perl (as with $myvar =~/expression/). From what I understand Ruby also has it. I'm tired of having to deal with pcre's little caveats (as implemented in php, python, java, c, c++ etc.). Such as having to compile the expressions beforehand. Or having to play the backslash game \\\\n to get a newline. There's nothing nicer than being able to have a regular expression that does exactly what I want on one line with minimal code. When programming in perl I tend to use the =~ operater almost as much as the == operator!
I gave a bad example. Perl doesn't support true multi dimensional arrays. Read
http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/perlreftut.ht ml
The values within an array must be scalars. This is something back from the perl 4 days. So in the example I gave, everything deeper than [4] is actually an anonymous reference.
I haven't been following perl 6 too closely, is there any word on if Perl will be getting rid of the multi dimensional array hack of having to use references? This is something that dates back to Perl 4. It could have been fixed in Perl 5 but was the whole references thing was introduced for backwards compatability. But so much is changing in Perl 6 anyway it would be nice to be able to do things like @array[6][4][2][5][6] = "whoa!"
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It's nice to see Toyota get a patent these days. They took a big hit when Honda got the patent for ricers.
I think a lot of people are under the impression "Yeah, Fedora is just Red Hat under a new name". Fedora is a completely different beast all together. I wouldn't put Fedora in the same class as Mandrake or Suse. Fedora is muich more cutting edge/ development oriented. The type of crowd that actually should be using Fedora aren't going to have to boot back into Windows to read info about their problem. They will boot back into their other linux partition, mount the Fedora partition, chroot to it, and fix the problem.
isn't the adoption of "Linux" already blown?
Fedora is wrongly reccomended to those that haven't already adopted linux completely. Everyone really should stop using Fedora and Red Hat synonimously because they aren't. If you want to adopt people to Linux, reccomend Suse or even Mandrake. Reccomending Fedora is like reccomending Debian to a newbie.
The term "scalable" has become an industry buzzword. It is fruitless to argue whether something is scalable or not if there is no clear defination. It's like arguing whether you believe in freedom or not. Of course most people in the world will say they believe in freedom, but if you ask 100 people to define it you will get 100 different answers (the Bush administration has had a field day with this because the minute you oppose them, they accuse you of not believing in freedom; their defination of course).
It is impossible to say php is or is not scalable unless a defination can be agreed on. And with "scalable's" current buzzword status, I don't see that happening very soon.
Looking at it, it's not minimalist in the same sense google is. Google has a lot of content that is extremely well organized without a lot of extra crud. Google's content is well formatted and easy to read. Simply taking out your ads and superfluous fonts and graphics doesn't make put in the same ranks as google.
For the most part, the only one in the community who actually believes Sun is in the same ranks as MS and SCO is Pamela Jones. But a zealot of zealot's isn't a representation of the community. Yes, Sun wants to make money. That doesn't make them evil. They have given back a lot and anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously misguided.
Look at it all from the college's prospective. It's EXTREMELY expensive to contantly identify and quarentine infected machines. Viruses and malware in general take a huge bite out of the universities limited bandwidth. After months/years of fighting the losing cycle of identify -> block, something else has to be done. Yeah, it really sucks, but you'll be glad when your connection becomes 50% faster overnight. It's really not their fault Windows is a piece of crap and that end users don't do anything about their infected machines. From their prospective, they've got a 10 megabit connection, and 5 megabits of that is being used by complete and utter crap. Not even p2p, but machines scanning other machines to try and infect them. You just eventually reach a frustration point where nothing else works and you have to punish everyone because there is little other choice.
Isn't that what Sean Mondavi wines used to produce their fine line of wines?
Oracle is fast on high end hardware. Otherwise it is in fact one of the slowest databases. For example I put it on an Athlon XP 2500+ machine with a gig of ram, and not only did it instantly eat up all the ram, but performed marginally. A single Oracle connection requires 10 times the amount of ram as compared to a lightweight database such as MySQL. You've oversimplified things by just saying Oracle is fast. If given the right hardware, query time outweighs connection time, and the databases are extremely huge, Oracle performs well. Otherwise, it's too resource intensive to use reasonably.
Who knows if it will flop or fly for what you've described it for, but I can think of a lot of good uses for it in the private sector.
Current time clock systems allow for a lot of cheating. "Here's my timecard, I'm going home early. Please clock me out". Timecard fraud becomes much easier to prevent when you can't just give someone your card to clock you out.
Most people HATE remembering passwords. If given the choice, most people would gladly trade in all their pins and passwords for the ability to have an iris scan identify them. Even if told it's not perfect.
What about cars? I'd love to be able to just open my door and while my hand is in contact with the handle scan my fingerprint and remember how I like my seat, mirrors, etc. adjusted.
I remember when Netscape first introduced cookies everyone was up and arms about the privacy issues. People were PISSED. And yes, plenty of people have abused cookies. But the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Almost all current web login systems use cookies. If we didn't have cookies we'd have to use a dirty work around like putting cookie data in the url for GET requests (which is incredibly insecure).
Biometrics are a good thing for day to day life. Very rarely does anything that sets out to change the world actually do; but it can definatly make the world a little easier to live in and help the average person immensely.
All of the filesystems tested are pretty mature. Reiserfs had some early 2.4 kernel issues (but then again, what didn't!). JFS is the "youngest" of all those (Well, JFS on linux anyway). A filesystem would have to be of pretty shitty design these days to have random corruption issues. You'd be more likely to have hard drive issues before random filesystem corruption issues.
It's been a year now, guys. The completely unrelated SCO comments are old. The "wow, only 699 dollars" comments were funny for like a week. First post, GNAA, and other completely random stuff gets modded down quickly, so why doesn't this? There was a SCO story today. Make all the stupid comments there. They don't belong in every story.
The reason companies outsource to China, India, etc. is because they can get away with paying these people next to nothing. They literally wouldn't be able to legally pay these people those wages in the US because they are below minimum wage. It's not about quality or anything like that. It's because these people live in such poor countries they can be paid next to nothing. If they legally could, I'm sure these companies would have slaves. If they want to pay these people the SAME US wages I have no problem with that.
You probably want to try Andrew Morton's kernel patches. I've got some servers running his kernel patches and it's nearly impossible to make the damn things swap. Machines with uptimes of 4 months and more, and top shows swap file usage at 0 kilobytes. His kernel patches generally give quite a performence gain. I don't know how they would react under an environment of older machines though.
Her article is Sun FUD. I don't see how it's any different when FUD is coming out of her mouth as opposed to Steve Balmer. She is criticizing a product based on how she feels about a company. That's very hypocritical. Is it fair to criticize open source software based on a dislike for RMS? Then how is it all of a sudden ok to criticize JDS based on a dislike for Sun?
For how much they must have paid in licensing costs, that's not too unreasonable. This seems like the first product of it's kind. If it's successful the price will undoubtedly come down considerbly. And yes, I know the parent is trying to be funny. =P
PJ is not a programmer, lawyer, or analyst, she is a paralegal. I don't see why her comments are newsworthy to begin with. It seems PJ just looks for things to be high and mighty about sometimes. A lot of noob friendly distros attempt to hide the fact you're using linux. So what? Lindows renames a lot of programs to generic names; such as renaming Mozilla to "Web Browser" and things of that nature. How many people actually know their linksys router is a linux based product. Or that their DVR runs linux. Complaining about something like that becomes complaining just for the sake of being a zealot.
Heh, I know this goes against everyone's opinion here and we'll both be modded down, but it needs to be said...
Groklaw offers up many legal "opinions", but most of these are full of bias and B.S. They have about as much grounding as the pundits PJ is always complaining about. It's extrememly hypocritical of Groklaw to constantly complain about the pundits and talking heads that ground their arguments in FUD when Groklaw does the exact same thing. PJ makes wild accusations all the time but people seem to forget quickly. PJ is neither a lawyer nor a programmer. She tends to offer about as much insight as Rob Enderle.
Sometimes I question the intelligence of the people writing these things. People were complaining about trivial things. Large documents not saved in their native format taking as long as 10 extra seconds to open. Be fucking glad you can open them at all in open office. Office can only open it's own native file formats. If anything, I'd bitch Office can't open other formats. Furthermore, cons were listed as basically "OpenOffice.org isn't Office, so your users won't be used to it". Statements like that are moronic. Of course it's not Office. It stands on it's own. All the cons basically stem from "It's not Office". People complained about things as trivial as they had to learn new key combination shortcuts. If your organization is so fickle that you'd choose Office over OpenOffice.org because of different key bindings, slightly different layout, and documents taking slightly longer to open, then I say go ahead, waste your money.
I wouldn't exactly say what he does is education. Many times he just scares users by taking a security situtation and blowing it out of proportion. For example, the XP raw sockets fiasco, or syn flooding routers with a spoofed source address of the host being attacked. Both of those are problems, but the way he talked about them, he acted like they would bring the internet to a stand still.
RC1 was announced already, announcing RC2 on slashdot is just a bit superfulious. When 5.0 is released it will be news worthy, but rc2 isn't really news, espically since rc1 got it's own slashdot story.
We wouldn't have to deal with Real's bullshit if Media Player didn't force them to go to such steps. There was a time when Real player was spyware and adware free. Anyway, I think this would be a good time to get an official port of mplayer to windows so it could spank them both like a couple of bitches.
Speaking of perl... /expression/). From what I understand Ruby also has it. I'm tired of having to deal with pcre's little caveats (as implemented in php, python, java, c, c++ etc.). Such as having to compile the expressions beforehand. Or having to play the backslash game \\\\n to get a newline. There's nothing nicer than being able to have a regular expression that does exactly what I want on one line with minimal code. When programming in perl I tend to use the =~ operater almost as much as the == operator!
I really wish lanugages would start implementing the ~ operator from perl (as with $myvar =~
I gave a bad example. Perl doesn't support true multi dimensional arrays. Read http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/perlreftut.ht ml
The values within an array must be scalars. This is something back from the perl 4 days. So in the example I gave, everything deeper than [4] is actually an anonymous reference.
I haven't been following perl 6 too closely, is there any word on if Perl will be getting rid of the multi dimensional array hack of having to use references? This is something that dates back to Perl 4. It could have been fixed in Perl 5 but was the whole references thing was introduced for backwards compatability. But so much is changing in Perl 6 anyway it would be nice to be able to do things like @array[6][4][2][5][6] = "whoa!"
In related news, in an attempt to gain new viewers Fox will be broadcasting it's lastest special. Celebrity drunken midgets beat up little kids in a boxing ring with oversized novelty boxing gloves.