I noted an observation based on past events, that is , since ringtones have come into existence, fewer people use vibrator.
This is an observation based on events that HAVE happened.
You state an opinion that has no basis, that is "f custom ringtones disappeared overnight, people would still leave their phones in the loudest ring mode."
This, on the other hand, is conjecture that you have no basis for.
You completly ignore the premise that people choose to use a ringtone becuase they want to, which you admit yourself is the reason you use them, whereas before ringtones were cool, vibrate was a genuine alternative. If there were no ringtones some people would forget to turn they're phones off, but most would default to vibrate as it is more useful.
Frankly, in some industries, you're too young. I cut my teeth (as a teenager) on a KIM-1 and what I remember about the VIC20/ZX80 crowd is you're afraid of hardware.
We use to refer to you lot as the "appliance computer users".
I've found my familiarty with hardware/electronics to be an EXTREME asset in the embedded market.
I call strawman. Nobody said anything about "offensive", nobody is talking about just being in public.
Wanna take your cooool ringtone out to the club, be my guest, noone will complain there. But, as I pointed out in the ORIGINAL message, since ringtones have come into widespread use and that because they "entertain you," you leave your phone on ring instead of vibrate in all sorts of innappropriate places. You don't switch it back to vibrate when you walk into the theatre, classroom, or frankly, even the coffee shop. You just contribute to noise polution with your shitty little one inc speaker blasting out whatever you think represents you as an individual.
It's not that people don't like loud music, people don't like YOUR loud music. Most of us our considerate enough not to subject you to OUR loud music in places where it is inappropriate.
So what. You have the right to be annoying because you don't want to carry your cell phone in your trowser pocket. Solve your problem without creating problems for others.
In a word, yes. If your dealer cannot demonstrate the features to you that you need then select a different dealer that can. Because you don't know how to buy something that has the features you need does not give you the right to be inconsiderate of others. If you cannot determine up front whether a phone model will work for you then you should accept the consequence of your lackluster shopping skills rather than be inconsiderate of others.
I have never had this probelm btw, and I have ALWAYS used vibrate on EVERY cell phone I've owned.
Riiight, and if your phone is in your pocket and the vibrator goes off you think that someone else's phone is ringing?
You are making the same tired argument that everyone with a "cool ringtone" makes, it's not an original argument and it doesn't stand up. Your need to have an audible tone should not override consideration for others.
In addition to the points already made it is not unreasonable to simply tell the prof that his/her expectations are unreasonable. Perhaps "get stuffed" is a bit over the top but I've found that employers (even professors) will listen to reasonable explanations.
I used to have a boss that would say things like "this should only take you about five minutes". I finally told him, "nothing takes just five minutes, if I have to stop what I'm doing there is a startup/teardown cost for every task." I convinced him that there was a granularity of 1/2 hour for every random task he wanted done. The discussion was fruitful for both of us, he was more reasonable about his expectations and put a bit more thought into what he wanted to distract me from my primary task to do.
Now, the original idea is a reasonable proposition, however, it isn't really the sort of thing that should be done for just one prof. Perhaps several departments can combine their resources to setup something that will allow this type of thing to done in a reasonable time frame.
You are making excuses to play music you like that you think others will like under the pretense that the built in tones are annoying. Nobody wants to be "turned on" to your really cool favorite band dude! Get over yourself.
This is the second link from this google search. If you really want a standard ring you can find it. However, the primary point is that your phone should be SILENT so as not to annoy others. Almost every phone has a vibrate mode and that's what you should be using if you are in a public place where phones are not appreciated.
1) It is your responsibility to select a phone that has a vibrate feature that works as you need it too.
2) If you are SOOO important that you can't miss a call or two then spending the money to get the proper phone shouldn't be an issue. For normal people, missing a call or two should override being inconsiderate of others.
3) If you must recieve a call when others might be bothered with your dumbass ringtones then get the damn thing out, put it on lights only mode, and sit it in front of you. Now you won't miss that oh so important phone call.
4) Finally, there is a BIG, and I mean BIG distinction between someone who occasionally let's the phone ring audibly with the STANDARD ringer vs someone who leaves their phone on audible all the time so others can hear how coooool their ringtones are.
Stop making excuses for your rudeness. When your phone goes off in a theatre, classroom, library, or any place where people expect a certain noise restraint you are being inconsiderate. There is no legitamate reason, not even the fabled doctor and his dying patient, for your RUDENESS!!!
Since ringtones have become popular I've noticed that fewer people choose the vibrate option. For those of you with ringtones get a clue, your ringtones are NOT cool! Everytime I hear one I just roll my eyes. Everyone thinks that they have the one tone that is soooo cooool that nobody will mind listening to it. People fail to realize that others don't want to be interrupted by random snips of ANY music played on a crappy speaker.
Perhaps if the RIAA managed to get some draconian measures enforced to charge you a royalty fee everytime your dumbass ringtone went off you'd switch back to vibrate. I hate the RIAA, but honestly, I hate ringtones more.
What about jesus christ? What is your point? There is historical evidence to suggest he was a man that existed 2000 years ago. That is all there is, nothing more.
Wow, that's clever. I've never seen somone make a meter out of dashes and numbers like that. I guess I better pay more attention to being original if I want you to type more spaces before marking my score with a carret.
Thanks, that was really helpful plurvert (ever so more concerned about his trollOmeter score)
Riiiight, that's why there's more to the rule. But, does the word believe break the rule? I'll answer that for you, no, it doesn't. That's why the rule was posted. See, the poster mispelled a common word that follows the rule learned in grade school, and then I poke fun by posting the rule in grade school terms.
Thank you for responding to mr plurvert's flame. Since this is a response to a flame, this response is being handled by mr plurvert's you-are-irrelavent-auto-responder bot.
Mr plurvert apologizes for not being able to respond directly, however, he is simply not able to respond to each and every response to his comments as some are, well, just inane.
A forum for buyers and sellers to get together. I don't see them as Sears, they are simply a conduit for a buyer to purchase something from one of the many "Sears" who sell on ebay. As a buyer, I do not think I am purchasing from ebay when I buy, thus, I make my own careful choices about who to buy from. As a seller, I don't represent myself as ebay, thus, I expect no trust benefit to come from the name association.
I've bought and sold a few things on ebay and on the net in general. Some deals have been better than others but I can't say that I've ever been burned.
This is completely off topic. But, way way way back when my buddy's 60s mustang fastback crapped out on him. The only thing we had to get it back to the baracks was his kawasaki 400. Well, he ties em together with some rope and gives me some "pointers" on driving the towed vehicle. Since I had just learned to drive (in a military jeep), experience was not my strong suit. At any rate, he manages to get us going and tows me through the fog of burnt clutch smell he created and things are going fine until we start going down a slight hill. I'm catching up to him fast and panic, I tap the brakes, the rope snaps, he brakes, I let go, I bump his bike, his tire squeals, he guns it and I coast to a stop at the bottom of the hill. After I got out he started giving me the business about how I suck as a driver yada yada yada when a n MP (military police) jeep pulls up. The cop gets out and asks us why we are out here at 4 in the morning and Rocky feeds him some shit when the cop sees the broken rope. He asks, "you guys trying to tow this car with that motorcycle", we laugh, and reply in unison "of course not". He warns us about the associated dangers and leaves us to deal with the dead car. At that point, we decided to just push the car back. I got to bed around 6am that morning.
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I noted an observation based on past events, that is , since ringtones have come into existence, fewer people use vibrator.
This is an observation based on events that HAVE happened.
You state an opinion that has no basis, that is "f custom ringtones disappeared overnight, people would still leave their phones in the loudest ring mode."
This, on the other hand, is conjecture that you have no basis for.
You completly ignore the premise that people choose to use a ringtone becuase they want to, which you admit yourself is the reason you use them, whereas before ringtones were cool, vibrate was a genuine alternative. If there were no ringtones some people would forget to turn they're phones off, but most would default to vibrate as it is more useful.
plurvert
Frankly, in some industries, you're too young. I cut my teeth (as a teenager) on a KIM-1 and what I remember about the VIC20/ZX80 crowd is you're afraid of hardware.
We use to refer to you lot as the "appliance computer users".
I've found my familiarty with hardware/electronics to be an EXTREME asset in the embedded market.
plurvert
I call strawman. Nobody said anything about "offensive", nobody is talking about just being in public.
Wanna take your cooool ringtone out to the club, be my guest, noone will complain there. But, as I pointed out in the ORIGINAL message, since ringtones have come into widespread use and that because they "entertain you," you leave your phone on ring instead of vibrate in all sorts of innappropriate places. You don't switch it back to vibrate when you walk into the theatre, classroom, or frankly, even the coffee shop. You just contribute to noise polution with your shitty little one inc speaker blasting out whatever you think represents you as an individual.
It's not that people don't like loud music, people don't like YOUR loud music. Most of us our considerate enough not to subject you to OUR loud music in places where it is inappropriate.
DJ plurvert
hard-house/techno/acid-trance
So what. You have the right to be annoying because you don't want to carry your cell phone in your trowser pocket. Solve your problem without creating problems for others.
In a word, yes. If your dealer cannot demonstrate the features to you that you need then select a different dealer that can. Because you don't know how to buy something that has the features you need does not give you the right to be inconsiderate of others. If you cannot determine up front whether a phone model will work for you then you should accept the consequence of your lackluster shopping skills rather than be inconsiderate of others.
I have never had this probelm btw, and I have ALWAYS used vibrate on EVERY cell phone I've owned.
plurvert
Riiight, and if your phone is in your pocket and the vibrator goes off you think that someone else's phone is ringing?
You are making the same tired argument that everyone with a "cool ringtone" makes, it's not an original argument and it doesn't stand up. Your need to have an audible tone should not override consideration for others.
plurvert
In addition to the points already made it is not unreasonable to simply tell the prof that his/her expectations are unreasonable. Perhaps "get stuffed" is a bit over the top but I've found that employers (even professors) will listen to reasonable explanations.
I used to have a boss that would say things like "this should only take you about five minutes". I finally told him, "nothing takes just five minutes, if I have to stop what I'm doing there is a startup/teardown cost for every task." I convinced him that there was a granularity of 1/2 hour for every random task he wanted done. The discussion was fruitful for both of us, he was more reasonable about his expectations and put a bit more thought into what he wanted to distract me from my primary task to do.
Now, the original idea is a reasonable proposition, however, it isn't really the sort of thing that should be done for just one prof. Perhaps several departments can combine their resources to setup something that will allow this type of thing to done in a reasonable time frame.
plurvert
I call bullshit.
/plurvert
You are making excuses to play music you like that you think others will like under the pretense that the built in tones are annoying. Nobody wants to be "turned on" to your really cool favorite band dude! Get over yourself.
This is the second link from this google search. If you really want a standard ring you can find it. However, the primary point is that your phone should be SILENT so as not to annoy others. Almost every phone has a vibrate mode and that's what you should be using if you are in a public place where phones are not appreciated.
1) Put phone in vibrate mode.
2) Put phone in your pocket.
3) Stop being an annoying ass with your dumass ringtones.
nuff said!
I call bullshit.
1) It is your responsibility to select a phone that has a vibrate feature that works as you need it too.
2) If you are SOOO important that you can't miss a call or two then spending the money to get the proper phone shouldn't be an issue. For normal people, missing a call or two should override being inconsiderate of others.
3) If you must recieve a call when others might be bothered with your dumbass ringtones then get the damn thing out, put it on lights only mode, and sit it in front of you. Now you won't miss that oh so important phone call.
4) Finally, there is a BIG, and I mean BIG distinction between someone who occasionally let's the phone ring audibly with the STANDARD ringer vs someone who leaves their phone on audible all the time so others can hear how coooool their ringtones are.
Stop making excuses for your rudeness. When your phone goes off in a theatre, classroom, library, or any place where people expect a certain noise restraint you are being inconsiderate. There is no legitamate reason, not even the fabled doctor and his dying patient, for your RUDENESS!!!
plurvert
Since ringtones have become popular I've noticed that fewer people choose the vibrate option. For those of you with ringtones get a clue, your ringtones are NOT cool! Everytime I hear one I just roll my eyes. Everyone thinks that they have the one tone that is soooo cooool that nobody will mind listening to it. People fail to realize that others don't want to be interrupted by random snips of ANY music played on a crappy speaker.
Perhaps if the RIAA managed to get some draconian measures enforced to charge you a royalty fee everytime your dumbass ringtone went off you'd switch back to vibrate. I hate the RIAA, but honestly, I hate ringtones more.
plurvert
doh, doh, of course I meant
Hear all of the...
this!
/plurvert
Here all the golden tones of startrek here.
Slashdot
nuff said
plurvert
Paren post is goatse cx.
What about jesus christ? What is your point? There is historical evidence to suggest he was a man that existed 2000 years ago. That is all there is, nothing more.
plurvert
Wow, that's clever. I've never seen somone make a meter out of dashes and numbers like that. I guess I better pay more attention to being original if I want you to type more spaces before marking my score with a carret.
Thanks, that was really helpful
plurvert
(ever so more concerned about his trollOmeter score)
Riiiight, that's why there's more to the rule. But, does the word believe break the rule? I'll answer that for you, no, it doesn't. That's why the rule was posted. See, the poster mispelled a common word that follows the rule learned in grade school, and then I poke fun by posting the rule in grade school terms.
hope this helps.
plurvert
Thank you for responding to mr plurvert's flame. Since this is a response to a flame, this response is being handled by mr plurvert's you-are-irrelavent-auto-responder bot.
Mr plurvert apologizes for not being able to respond directly, however, he is simply not able to respond to each and every response to his comments as some are, well, just inane.
thank you
the autobot
Is a "houndred" years the same as a hundred dog years?
Just curious.
plurvert
Nothing like getting you religious nuts all riled up to the point that you start name calling. Just like jesus did right?
plurvert
Deity falls under the rest of the rule...
/plurvert
science.... (quick, where's the C)
I'm sure that to those who do not beleive in any of the Bible, or in God, or Jesus, this sounds like nonsense.
/plurvert
No, it IS nonsense.
Hopefully its interesting though,
It's nutty, but I don't think that counts.
Also it would be interesting the different opinion that other beleivers have, not necessarily agreeing I'm sure!
I before E except after C.
A forum for buyers and sellers to get together. I don't see them as Sears, they are simply a conduit for a buyer to purchase something from one of the many "Sears" who sell on ebay. As a buyer, I do not think I am purchasing from ebay when I buy, thus, I make my own careful choices about who to buy from. As a seller, I don't represent myself as ebay, thus, I expect no trust benefit to come from the name association.
I've bought and sold a few things on ebay and on the net in general. Some deals have been better than others but I can't say that I've ever been burned.
plurvert
This is completely off topic. But, way way way back when my buddy's 60s mustang fastback crapped out on him. The only thing we had to get it back to the baracks was his kawasaki 400. Well, he ties em together with some rope and gives me some "pointers" on driving the towed vehicle. Since I had just learned to drive (in a military jeep), experience was not my strong suit. At any rate, he manages to get us going and tows me through the fog of burnt clutch smell he created and things are going fine until we start going down a slight hill. I'm catching up to him fast and panic, I tap the brakes, the rope snaps, he brakes, I let go, I bump his bike, his tire squeals, he guns it and I coast to a stop at the bottom of the hill. After I got out he started giving me the business about how I suck as a driver yada yada yada when a n MP (military police) jeep pulls up. The cop gets out and asks us why we are out here at 4 in the morning and Rocky feeds him some shit when the cop sees the broken rope. He asks, "you guys trying to tow this car with that motorcycle", we laugh, and reply in unison "of course not". He warns us about the associated dangers and leaves us to deal with the dead car. At that point, we decided to just push the car back. I got to bed around 6am that morning.
I'm not making this up....