Why would you consider such hatred irrational? Its not like I hate religion, "just because." It's what relgiion does to people and how you attempt to limit our liberties and impose you views upon people who don't care about your fairy tales. You don't like abortion? Don't practise it! DOn't tell other people how to live, relgion has proven itself as a failure when it comes to ethics. You guys probably killed more people then Hitler.
Dude, playing a game doesn't harm anyone (maybe yourself, but that's your choice)!
You can't compare that to religions that have resulted in more deaths than Hitler. Have you forgotten about the crusades? The Inquizition? What about limiting right of homosexuals? Relgious groups have always been the first to limit our freedoms and impose their stupid rules upon people. Organized religion is agianst the human spirit, if anything taking part in organized religion is anti-social behaviour.
Far more good... Good for who? For fanatics and people who want to limit my liberties?
Dude, it wasn't like he just made up a name that sounded like Microsoft! His real name was Mike Rowe. Are you saying that anyone name Mike Rowe is banned from entering the software business just because of MS? Get a grip, mikerowesoft has nothing to do with microsoft! Microsoft themselves agreed that they went on overkill mode with that case.
What's wrong with abortion or evolution? It hasn't harmed anyone. Ok social darwinism did, but most people who supported that crap were conservatives not humanists.
Turning what around? Faith doesn't stand up science, deabte over. Just because you believe in something doesn't make it true or even relevant. If believe in invisible pink unicorns, does that make them real? Does that mean that you have to follow their code of conduct, which only I can understand?
Why are humanistist crazies? I don't seem to notice any active action from their side (like limiting the rights of sexual minorities, racisim, blowing up stuff).
It is a big deal. You want to pretend ripping someone off isn't a big deal, but hey, thanks for admitting you're 100% anti-artist. Again, do you think John Carmack would appreciate all his years of work into Doom 3 going unpaid? Be sure to avoid this point again.
You haven't used the John Carmack argument on me. I like Doom and I think id make fun games, thats why I buy their work. See an evil pirate who kills babies and supports the axis of evil is not pirating something? Guess why?
Do you think The Bad Plus likes it that their album...
Ok, you named one band (after like 3 posts where you ignored my questions), how much did they lose because of P2P. You can't look at this from a moral standpoint, since IP is not a moral thing. We tolerate it because it is supposed to benefit our society. So how much did they lose and would they have really lost that money? Can you actually prove that those people who downloaded the album would buy it if people got executed for using P2P?
Haha, you must've Google for some random economic term to throw out in an attempt to appear to be debating me. Opportunity cost doesn't mean that at all. Opportunity cost is the consideration of what other thing you might have purchased had you not purchased something else.
Again copied arguments. Drop it. You get what I mean, people have better things to spend their money than on some top 40 shit. If P2P and piracy wouldn't exist then that doesn't mean that everything that was downloaded would be bought. I mean you can't argue against that.
Piracy does hurt artists.
Evidence! Show some proof. More than just oh artist XYZ feels bad that his new album is on P2P. Figure and facts. I am not going to believe something just because you say so. Until you provide evidence, your statement doesn't mean shit! Record labels where never big on unsafe artists, they have to make money not promote art.
P2P users are more likely to cheat and shoplift. No surprise at all. You have this bizarre moral relativism that you lack the objective capability of recognizing in yourself.
Please, the study is fucked! Its not objective and its full of shit. Physical property and IP are different things. Saying "its the same" won't change that.
Again, I mention artists, and you retreat to the "corporate" attacks, ignoring the human beings in the bands you're making sure don't get paid today.
Well first of all, your not giving me much chance to mention the human beings, since your not providing any evidence that they get hurt (your words aren't enough). Secondly, as I told you before, in my view pirating indie artists is bad and it shouldn't be done unless there is no way in hell you buy that album. I am not going to apply the same to corporate music. For me there is distinction. If you think corporation have the same rights as normal citizens, then thats your problem. I see nothing wrong with ripping off members of RIAA, period.
You'll never address any of my basic points.
Strange that anytime I say something, you use that in your next post. What basic points dude? What haven't I addressed. Regarding people getting hurt, I told you, evidence! Regarding loss of sales, I told you I don't agree with you that P2P download must = sale. Regarding corporations, I told you I see a distinction between corps and humans. For me pirating RIAA is morally ok. Since they are breaking the rules (unlimited copyright that doesn't even expire by the worldwide life expectancy, making market-orientated shit not art) by which they are supposed to play. Since they have fuckloads (after all piracy is hurting) they can manipulate public opinion and the government so things work they way they want to. I don't have such resources, so I don't see anything wrong with fucking them over. What else? GPL? You don't get its point, so what do you want. Saying that I am just avoiding the point (regarding the GPL) is all nice, but I can't argue with you if you don't unders
makes the assumption that without organized religion these fundamentalist wouldn't be finding other reasons to kill each other. Using what we know if human nature, I suspect they would.
Your shooting yourself in the foot here. You used the word fundamentalist, that just kills your argument. Fundamentalists are the direct result of religion. Religion in one form or another creates people who are not tolerant. Do you have any evidence that the level of violence during the last 1000 years would be the same had their not been any organized religion? Think about almost any conflict, religion made contributions to violence.
ignores any existing benefits chrisian ethics may have on existing practising societies. In other words, if the a moral doctrine says at times to kill and others times to not kill, how do we find out its net effect on the murder rate? Abrahamic religions allow violence in a few corner cases, but the overall very strongly discourages it.
So what? Just because the Bible has some good things in it, doesn't mean that religious killings are justified. What makes you think that an alternative doctrine couldn't have the same good things in it (and more) without all the mass atrocities committed by christianity and other cults?
You are so retarded that it's not even funny? How the hell does being socialist or liberal have anything to with opposing violence in games?
Do you even understand what the word liberal means? Or are you completely stupid? Liberalism (social+economic) involves something called Laissez faire. Google it dumbass, no liberal would supporting banning a game unless it was obviously racist.
Bible bashing isn't getting old, you idiots never change. You acted like stupid children afraid anything new that threatened the protective world that you built around yourself a 100 years ago and you still act like that now!
These people who want to remove violence from culture
I wih someone sent your stupid christian ass to cambodia during Pol Pot. Hehe, you would have learned a very good lesson.
and ban guns
OMG your precious, you lazy coward. Its not like you need those guns to protect yourself from the big bad government, conservatives are always the last ones to oppose the government when it counts! They will only do it to protect their fantasy world.
One hates it because it's a sin
Only in your stupid cult, it's a sin. No one gives a shit, your cult is as real as the spaghetti monster!
OMG, you completely twist everything, avoid answering and accuse other people of your mistakes!
Because when indie artists end up on P2P, it's worst of all because these are the artists trying to get started in their careers and make it, and need support the most.
When does that happen? Stop talking BS! If it doesn't happen, it doesn't matter.
Nobody is "starving" from piracy, and that has nothing to do with anything. You don't have the right to rip someone off and violate their rights as a copyright holder (or else we can kiss the GPL goodbye, since it relies on copyright to protect code).
There you go, you yourself just proved that its no big deal. We have more importan things to worry about, then something that just means that corporations get less profit. I couldn't care less if universal makes less money. As long as indie artists don't get hurt (you yourself said that you can't fin their music on P2P - So how do they get hurt? Figures? Evidence? Stop avoiding the answer!).
I love it. You have no thought of your own, so you tell me to go to the fanatical RMS. How about thinking on your own for a change and responding yourself? My view that the GPL relies on copyright is 100% correct in every way.
Your view on GPL is worth a cow's ass. This has nothing to do about thinking by yourself. The purpose of the GPL is a workaround against copyright. If it didn't exist, there would be no need for the GPL. If you don't believe me check the Free software foundation's page.
It's this magical thing called "math."
Paying for an album = money paid to artist
Not paying for an album = money not paid to artist
Well, this sort of logic might cut it when your in 8th grade, but not in the real world. There is a thing called opportunity cost that means that if people had to pay for certain things, they would simply not buy these things! How does that fit into your little world?
Your pretty pathetic, how you try to appeal to slashdotters. You constantly mention Carmack when talking about piracy because you know that ppl on/. like Carmack. Or you attempt to de corporatize the music industry as if piracy is hurting poor starving artists. You have to get your priorities right, copyright infringement isn't theft, far from it and it shouldn't be a priority for a society where poverty is still the norm. There are things more important than corporate profit.
Dude, simple solution. You yourself solved your problem!
In order to implement this feature, Google, obviously needs to know who is actually looking at the page, so that it could then personalize it - therefore, you need to "Sign In" to use the page.
Since Google "needs to who is actually looking at the page", I see only one way out, don't let google set cookies. It's not like anyone is forcing you to personalize your homeapge. It's extra, it's not like they even advertize it all that hevaily. If you are so paranoid about cookies, but you still want the functionality they give, just spoof the cookies. There are several extensions for Firefox that allow you to to do this. I really don't see why you are so worked up....
You still didn't answer any of my questions! Stop posting pointless personal attacks and avoiding the question!
* You still didn't prove how downloading a file of P2P results in a loss for the indie music artist
* You still haven't named any artists that are starving due to piracy. I'll even let you name top40 artists
* You still haven't addressed the issue that iTunes doesn't work with everything or on everything
* You seem to ignore the fact that non-top40 artists get revenue differently from top40 artists
* You fail to address you contradication about piracy hurting the small artist, but P2P being full of top40 stuff
* Your views on the nature of GPL are false, talk to RMS about it. He would know best.
* Cartels don't exists right?
Actually, in the US, it's not just the corporations that are telling us about copyright laws, it's our government, at various levels. The corporations are merely attempting to enforce their copyrights, as is their legal right to do. I'll leave the argument about whether copyrights are "right" for another time.
Guess you never heard of lobbying and its impact on American politics. Calling bribes a different name doesn't make them any better!
Gosh, this is a good one! Where to start? How about this: The whole concept of "Civil Law" and "Criminal Law" doesn't really exist in the real world, either - human beings created them, just as they did the concept of copyright. Amazing, but true: The WHOLE body of law is something that human beings created!
Stop twisting my words. The point I was making that, that civilization existed without copyright laws and it didn't fall apart. And that it isn't a core part of our society like law. Again, I am not saying that we should completely do away with copyright, but changes need to be made!
Yup. And, there's more to society than just you. There's other people, and here in the US, corporations are deemed citizens, and so are a part of our society too (and I'll leave the discussion about whether that is "right" for another time).
Fair enough, when did I say that everyone has to think the same way as I do? Again you don't have to abolish copyright to make things more fair.
Um, by definition, they do, at least with regards to their copyrights, until they expire: That's the WHOLE purpose of copyright in the first place, at least in the US.
My mistake, I meant a special right to profit, as if they were something special. They are just another corporation, when they are trying to portray themselves as some sort of crusaders for morality, who are fighting against pirates.
Um, by definition, they do, at least with regards to their copyrights, until they expire: That's the WHOLE purpose of copyright in the first place, at least in the US.
Do you seriouslly think they won't extend the copyrigh duration once its 2015 (or whatever the date is)? Don't be so naive, you might as well just let them work for ever if in your liftime you are not able to see copyright expire.
In other words, you can't address a single point I made, so you're bringing out the tired "you're an APOLOGIST!" retort.
The reason why I said that is because you repeat the same thing over and over again. I've seen enough of your rhetoric to have some idea of your standard methods of offence. I've seen ppl counter you, but it only works for one particular story in question. Basically, you repeat the same thing over and again and again even if people have argued with you. Plus I have a suspicion that you use several accounts. Why would you have several accounts if all you points are so superior and meaningful. Last resort my ass, if that would be my motivation then I would have trolled you and wouldn't be writing this post.
Nobody's telling me anything. Why are you guys OBSESSED with the "corporations?" Why not a single thought devoted toward the very real human beings you're ripping off instead? You know, the artists you're making sure don't get paid today?
Your anti-copyright rant means the GPL has no legal standing. You do realize the GPL stands on copyright, don't you? I'll be sure to remember what you said in the next "stolen GPL code" article...
Why am I obsessed with corporations? Umm, because their activity are making feel that allowing incorporation isn't really benefiting society. Very real human beings? Now you are using rhetoric, you know, proving your point by making some sort of symbolic hard working human beings. If you don't like hearing rhetoric, don't use it yourself. The last sentence in your quote is full of BS? Don't get paid? What do you mean? A download over P2P doesn't mean a lost sale for the artist. Human or not human (drop the "appeal to common man" diction), a loss only happens when an additional cost is incurred. This isn't really true for P2P. How can you prove that I would buy a particular song if wasn't able to pirate it? And since you can't do that, there is no loss. Why do you think microsoft keeps its OS crackable? Because, if it wasn't, it would lose the whole of the 3rd-world market in a few months. Back to the corporation bit, anti-RIAAers (btw, when I say RIAA I mean content cartels etc) often make reference to corporations because they are what harm the consumer. Small bands and who want to make a living don't get harmed by piracy that much. Most of them are product orientated and focus on live shows. Anyway, proper music bands don't have that much of a problem with piracy as they actually have music for which fans are ready to pay.
Your argument about GPL doesn't really stand. Since in a world without copyright, there would be no need for GPL. The GPL is just a workaround for those of us who like "open" software and don't the works open source coders to be taken by 3rd parties (use BSD for that).
And again, we run back to the scapegoat-the-RIAA mindset. It's all you have, stereotypes and emotion-based rhetoric.
Scapegoat? What are you talking about? All I was pointing out was that RIAA isn't some holy entity that can do no wrong. I haven't seen any of your posts that recognize this. On the contrary, I get the impression that in your world, RIAA can do no wrong.
You just can't address my points. As I said, Slashdot has become piracy central, actively advocating ripping people off just because they made the mistake of trying to sell something in a world of freeloaders with high-speed connections.
Then what are you doing here? Since we are all "college kids getting albums for free", what's your point man? Do you think your boring repetition will help change anything? I am sick os seeing you in every story about RIAA. Whenever, RIAA (or CRIA) does something stupid (are you saying that their survey is objective?) you come around and defend them? Do you see why I think that you believe that RIAA can do no evil? Because you are not objective even by your own moral/political standards. If you would really want to be objective you would blame piracy and the corporocracy. I have never seen
Dude, everyone knows you are a RIAA/MPAA apologist. Just because the corporations tell you something doesn't mean it is true. Did you even consider that the whole concept of copyright doesn't exist in the real world? That we are allowing for the creation of artificial monopolies for society's benefit. Copyright isn't something divine or something that should be on the UN's declaration of Human Rights. When will you learn that there are more important things in life then protecting corporate interests?
When will you understand that not everyone believes that copyrights are useful to society? It was meant to benefit society. The vast majority of this top40 shit is imposed on us by corporations; it has gotten so bad, that I am better of looking for good music in archive.org's OSS music section. Copyright has outlives its usefulness for society, so why should people support it?
RIAA does not have any right for profit. If they do get profit, that's fine, there is nothing moral about protecting a corporation!
But of course, I know nothing, RIAA is always correct and evil commmie pink liberals should all die. Please, your apologist stance is getting old and pointless.
The kids have already turned to drugs, your reasoing is flawed! When was the last time you were in a school?
That aside, what makes you think drugs are inherintly evil? I mean if the governemnt OKs some mild drugs alcohol), why can't that be applies to other mild drugs? And generally, drop the "drugs are the root of all evil" BS, it won't stop people from doing (both mild and hard) drugs.
There is a difference! At least taxes are meant to do some good, like create a social security net to stop people gowing below the line of poverty. In a perfect world, there would be no need for taxes as everyone would contribute for the common goog.
I will never understand you people who put private property above human life. Your just plain insane, you are actually implying that privatizing a hiking trail is good idea. And the worse thing is that we are heading down that path. Its scary.
So what if he is an admirer of Castro? At least he didn't support a corrupt government that was involved with the mafia led by Batista.
You right wing need to learn that some things (human life?) are important than the free market and property rights.
Doesn't it shock you that we have the capacity to eliminate hunger and poverty alll in one go, yet we are doing nothing to achieve this. And fuck trickle down economics and Reagan!
Yeah, so lets give all our money to corporations, they will find better use of it, right? Please, corporations were benefit us, not waste money making us buy more shit that we don't need. I'd rather give my money to a government which at least at times spends money on things like public services and social security rather than a corporation that has no concept like humanitariansim.
Corporations are good for certain things but not replacing the government.
Do you have any examples of companies seriously (not some scrap code that they don't need anymore) contributing to the BSD community? Specifically in a scenario like you described.
Those songs might not belong to me, but they don't belong to anyone else as well? Is right that corporations change laws to suit themselves, when in reality these laws should work for the public?
But isn't just 1mm of aluminium enough to stop both alpha and beta particles since they are so big. I thought that your skin could even stop alpha particles. And aren't Alpha and Beta particles the ionizing, high-energy radiation ones?
Jesus is dead! He died of hypothermia while trying to find heaven in the troposphere.
Your faith is fake. It doesn't make any difference whether the astronauts will survive or not. Only knowledge and science will be able to help. Stop preaching, you knew that you would cause a backlash.
The fact I'm not planning a terrorist attack with a dirty bomb perhaps?
How do I know that? The government doesn't need to show any evidence? Maybe you are just saying this right now to avoid being arrested? I think we shouldn't take the risk and arrest you just for the sake of it.
I am not willing to take or be subjected to that risk.
And I am not willing to subject myself to the power of the government. As student studying about Russia under the 'communist' dictatorship and a Ukrainian citizen living in Moscow, I can tell you that you don't want your country pushing up security. We have cops on every fucking corner and the worst thing is that they are pointless. All they do is stop you to check your documents (and get bribes if your forgot them). Any terrorist can pay the cops around $400 and they will have a police car escorting them. Of course the situation is slightly different in USA. But the point remains, short of kicking out ALL muslims (even that won't really help), you will only be as strong as you weakest link.
This is war - one in which you are, in fact, either with us, or against us.
But this stupid. You can't say things like that. I oppose your governments intervention in Iraq. IMHO its economically motivated. Does this mean I am against you? Does that mean I want to kill Americans or something like that? This a conformist attitude, you can't make things only black and white.
The Islamic extremists want to rebuild the Caliphate and eventually subjugate the whole world under Sharia law.
How is that different from your own christian extremists? They want to limit our liberty and impose christian rule worldwide. And their just as crazy. Sure they haven't started using bombs yet (because they don't want to be discredited), but they do intimidate doctors who are involves in abortion and help spread HIV/AIDS (you can call that bio terrorism).
1. Give them everything they want.
Never! Wouldn't want to live in a world like that. Anyway where did you get this from? I never suggested giving in to Islamic radicals.
2. Fight them everywhere they are.
Your present government will never be able to do that. Didn't you forget that it's in bed with Saudi Arabia? And where does Bin Laden come from? If your government was genuinely worried about terrorism, why not invade Saudi Arabia. They supply most of the finances for terrorism and they have a huge problem with human rights abuse. And don't start about how Hussien wanted to nuke USA and help terrorist. He was mad, but he was more or less secular. He didn't really give a shit about Islam and holy wars.
Thinking bin Laden will stop attacking because we give economic aid or are nicer about globalization.
No, but if you stop treating muslims as terrorists and be nicer about globalization (cash in the middle east goes to Kings and other people in power) he will have a lot less recruits and support. Thats what really counts.
These enemies are Palestinian,
Americans and the Israelites are most responsible for creating Palestinian radicalism. Rather than financing Israel, America should have forced to close down settlements in Palestinian territory ages ago and help Palestine develop to increase living standards and promote peace. (when everything is cool in your life, there is a lot less motivation to go out and kill yourself).
Shooting innocent children in a Russian school
Did you consider why this was done? Did you know that the terrorist were willing to lets everyone go if Russian forces would get their asses out of chechnya? However, the Russian didn't allow the mass media to report this. Furthermore, you don't seem to be worried about systematic abuse by Russian forces of the chechen people! Did you consider that there might be a link between these two things. Think about it, you are much more likely to do something horrific like taking children hostage, if a bunch Russians break into you
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Why would you consider such hatred irrational? Its not like I hate religion, "just because." It's what relgiion does to people and how you attempt to limit our liberties and impose you views upon people who don't care about your fairy tales. You don't like abortion? Don't practise it! DOn't tell other people how to live, relgion has proven itself as a failure when it comes to ethics. You guys probably killed more people then Hitler.
Dude, playing a game doesn't harm anyone (maybe yourself, but that's your choice)!
You can't compare that to religions that have resulted in more deaths than Hitler. Have you forgotten about the crusades? The Inquizition? What about limiting right of homosexuals? Relgious groups have always been the first to limit our freedoms and impose their stupid rules upon people. Organized religion is agianst the human spirit, if anything taking part in organized religion is anti-social behaviour.
Far more good... Good for who? For fanatics and people who want to limit my liberties?
speaking of apologists....
Turning what around? Faith doesn't stand up science, deabte over. Just because you believe in something doesn't make it true or even relevant. If believe in invisible pink unicorns, does that make them real? Does that mean that you have to follow their code of conduct, which only I can understand?
Why are humanistist crazies? I don't seem to notice any active action from their side (like limiting the rights of sexual minorities, racisim, blowing up stuff).
You haven't used the John Carmack argument on me. I like Doom and I think id make fun games, thats why I buy their work. See an evil pirate who kills babies and supports the axis of evil is not pirating something? Guess why?
Do you think The Bad Plus likes it that their album...
Ok, you named one band (after like 3 posts where you ignored my questions), how much did they lose because of P2P. You can't look at this from a moral standpoint, since IP is not a moral thing. We tolerate it because it is supposed to benefit our society. So how much did they lose and would they have really lost that money? Can you actually prove that those people who downloaded the album would buy it if people got executed for using P2P?
Haha, you must've Google for some random economic term to throw out in an attempt to appear to be debating me. Opportunity cost doesn't mean that at all. Opportunity cost is the consideration of what other thing you might have purchased had you not purchased something else.
Again copied arguments. Drop it. You get what I mean, people have better things to spend their money than on some top 40 shit. If P2P and piracy wouldn't exist then that doesn't mean that everything that was downloaded would be bought. I mean you can't argue against that.
Piracy does hurt artists.
Evidence! Show some proof. More than just oh artist XYZ feels bad that his new album is on P2P. Figure and facts. I am not going to believe something just because you say so. Until you provide evidence, your statement doesn't mean shit! Record labels where never big on unsafe artists, they have to make money not promote art.
P2P users are more likely to cheat and shoplift. No surprise at all. You have this bizarre moral relativism that you lack the objective capability of recognizing in yourself.
Please, the study is fucked! Its not objective and its full of shit. Physical property and IP are different things. Saying "its the same" won't change that.
Again, I mention artists, and you retreat to the "corporate" attacks, ignoring the human beings in the bands you're making sure don't get paid today.
Well first of all, your not giving me much chance to mention the human beings, since your not providing any evidence that they get hurt (your words aren't enough). Secondly, as I told you before, in my view pirating indie artists is bad and it shouldn't be done unless there is no way in hell you buy that album. I am not going to apply the same to corporate music. For me there is distinction. If you think corporation have the same rights as normal citizens, then thats your problem. I see nothing wrong with ripping off members of RIAA, period.
You'll never address any of my basic points.
Strange that anytime I say something, you use that in your next post. What basic points dude? What haven't I addressed. Regarding people getting hurt, I told you, evidence! Regarding loss of sales, I told you I don't agree with you that P2P download must = sale. Regarding corporations, I told you I see a distinction between corps and humans. For me pirating RIAA is morally ok. Since they are breaking the rules (unlimited copyright that doesn't even expire by the worldwide life expectancy, making market-orientated shit not art) by which they are supposed to play. Since they have fuckloads (after all piracy is hurting) they can manipulate public opinion and the government so things work they way they want to. I don't have such resources, so I don't see anything wrong with fucking them over. What else? GPL? You don't get its point, so what do you want. Saying that I am just avoiding the point (regarding the GPL) is all nice, but I can't argue with you if you don't unders
Your shooting yourself in the foot here. You used the word fundamentalist, that just kills your argument. Fundamentalists are the direct result of religion. Religion in one form or another creates people who are not tolerant. Do you have any evidence that the level of violence during the last 1000 years would be the same had their not been any organized religion? Think about almost any conflict, religion made contributions to violence.
ignores any existing benefits chrisian ethics may have on existing practising societies. In other words, if the a moral doctrine says at times to kill and others times to not kill, how do we find out its net effect on the murder rate? Abrahamic religions allow violence in a few corner cases, but the overall very strongly discourages it.
So what? Just because the Bible has some good things in it, doesn't mean that religious killings are justified. What makes you think that an alternative doctrine couldn't have the same good things in it (and more) without all the mass atrocities committed by christianity and other cults?
but the overall very strongly discourages it.
LOL, well it's working isn't it?
Do you even understand what the word liberal means? Or are you completely stupid? Liberalism (social+economic) involves something called Laissez faire. Google it dumbass, no liberal would supporting banning a game unless it was obviously racist.
Bible bashing isn't getting old, you idiots never change. You acted like stupid children afraid anything new that threatened the protective world that you built around yourself a 100 years ago and you still act like that now!
These people who want to remove violence from culture
I wih someone sent your stupid christian ass to cambodia during Pol Pot. Hehe, you would have learned a very good lesson.
and ban guns
OMG your precious, you lazy coward. Its not like you need those guns to protect yourself from the big bad government, conservatives are always the last ones to oppose the government when it counts! They will only do it to protect their fantasy world.
One hates it because it's a sin
Only in your stupid cult, it's a sin. No one gives a shit, your cult is as real as the spaghetti monster!
Because when indie artists end up on P2P, it's worst of all because these are the artists trying to get started in their careers and make it, and need support the most.
When does that happen? Stop talking BS! If it doesn't happen, it doesn't matter.
Nobody is "starving" from piracy, and that has nothing to do with anything. You don't have the right to rip someone off and violate their rights as a copyright holder (or else we can kiss the GPL goodbye, since it relies on copyright to protect code).
There you go, you yourself just proved that its no big deal. We have more importan things to worry about, then something that just means that corporations get less profit. I couldn't care less if universal makes less money. As long as indie artists don't get hurt (you yourself said that you can't fin their music on P2P - So how do they get hurt? Figures? Evidence? Stop avoiding the answer!).
I love it. You have no thought of your own, so you tell me to go to the fanatical RMS. How about thinking on your own for a change and responding yourself? My view that the GPL relies on copyright is 100% correct in every way.
Your view on GPL is worth a cow's ass. This has nothing to do about thinking by yourself. The purpose of the GPL is a workaround against copyright. If it didn't exist, there would be no need for the GPL. If you don't believe me check the Free software foundation's page.
It's this magical thing called "math." Paying for an album = money paid to artist Not paying for an album = money not paid to artist
Well, this sort of logic might cut it when your in 8th grade, but not in the real world. There is a thing called opportunity cost that means that if people had to pay for certain things, they would simply not buy these things! How does that fit into your little world?
Your pretty pathetic, how you try to appeal to slashdotters. You constantly mention Carmack when talking about piracy because you know that ppl on /. like Carmack. Or you attempt to de corporatize the music industry as if piracy is hurting poor starving artists. You have to get your priorities right, copyright infringement isn't theft, far from it and it shouldn't be a priority for a society where poverty is still the norm. There are things more important than corporate profit.
In order to implement this feature, Google, obviously needs to know who is actually looking at the page, so that it could then personalize it - therefore, you need to "Sign In" to use the page.
Since Google "needs to who is actually looking at the page", I see only one way out, don't let google set cookies. It's not like anyone is forcing you to personalize your homeapge. It's extra, it's not like they even advertize it all that hevaily. If you are so paranoid about cookies, but you still want the functionality they give, just spoof the cookies. There are several extensions for Firefox that allow you to to do this. I really don't see why you are so worked up....
* You still didn't prove how downloading a file of P2P results in a loss for the indie music artist * You still haven't named any artists that are starving due to piracy. I'll even let you name top40 artists * You still haven't addressed the issue that iTunes doesn't work with everything or on everything * You seem to ignore the fact that non-top40 artists get revenue differently from top40 artists * You fail to address you contradication about piracy hurting the small artist, but P2P being full of top40 stuff * Your views on the nature of GPL are false, talk to RMS about it. He would know best. * Cartels don't exists right?
Guess you never heard of lobbying and its impact on American politics. Calling bribes a different name doesn't make them any better!
Gosh, this is a good one! Where to start? How about this: The whole concept of "Civil Law" and "Criminal Law" doesn't really exist in the real world, either - human beings created them, just as they did the concept of copyright. Amazing, but true: The WHOLE body of law is something that human beings created!
Stop twisting my words. The point I was making that, that civilization existed without copyright laws and it didn't fall apart. And that it isn't a core part of our society like law. Again, I am not saying that we should completely do away with copyright, but changes need to be made!
Yup. And, there's more to society than just you. There's other people, and here in the US, corporations are deemed citizens, and so are a part of our society too (and I'll leave the discussion about whether that is "right" for another time).
Fair enough, when did I say that everyone has to think the same way as I do? Again you don't have to abolish copyright to make things more fair.
Um, by definition, they do, at least with regards to their copyrights, until they expire: That's the WHOLE purpose of copyright in the first place, at least in the US.
My mistake, I meant a special right to profit, as if they were something special. They are just another corporation, when they are trying to portray themselves as some sort of crusaders for morality, who are fighting against pirates.
Um, by definition, they do, at least with regards to their copyrights, until they expire: That's the WHOLE purpose of copyright in the first place, at least in the US.
Do you seriouslly think they won't extend the copyrigh duration once its 2015 (or whatever the date is)? Don't be so naive, you might as well just let them work for ever if in your liftime you are not able to see copyright expire.
The reason why I said that is because you repeat the same thing over and over again. I've seen enough of your rhetoric to have some idea of your standard methods of offence. I've seen ppl counter you, but it only works for one particular story in question. Basically, you repeat the same thing over and again and again even if people have argued with you. Plus I have a suspicion that you use several accounts. Why would you have several accounts if all you points are so superior and meaningful. Last resort my ass, if that would be my motivation then I would have trolled you and wouldn't be writing this post.
Nobody's telling me anything. Why are you guys OBSESSED with the "corporations?" Why not a single thought devoted toward the very real human beings you're ripping off instead? You know, the artists you're making sure don't get paid today?
Your anti-copyright rant means the GPL has no legal standing. You do realize the GPL stands on copyright, don't you? I'll be sure to remember what you said in the next "stolen GPL code" article...
Why am I obsessed with corporations? Umm, because their activity are making feel that allowing incorporation isn't really benefiting society. Very real human beings? Now you are using rhetoric, you know, proving your point by making some sort of symbolic hard working human beings. If you don't like hearing rhetoric, don't use it yourself. The last sentence in your quote is full of BS? Don't get paid? What do you mean? A download over P2P doesn't mean a lost sale for the artist. Human or not human (drop the "appeal to common man" diction), a loss only happens when an additional cost is incurred. This isn't really true for P2P. How can you prove that I would buy a particular song if wasn't able to pirate it? And since you can't do that, there is no loss. Why do you think microsoft keeps its OS crackable? Because, if it wasn't, it would lose the whole of the 3rd-world market in a few months. Back to the corporation bit, anti-RIAAers (btw, when I say RIAA I mean content cartels etc) often make reference to corporations because they are what harm the consumer. Small bands and who want to make a living don't get harmed by piracy that much. Most of them are product orientated and focus on live shows. Anyway, proper music bands don't have that much of a problem with piracy as they actually have music for which fans are ready to pay.
Your argument about GPL doesn't really stand. Since in a world without copyright, there would be no need for GPL. The GPL is just a workaround for those of us who like "open" software and don't the works open source coders to be taken by 3rd parties (use BSD for that).
And again, we run back to the scapegoat-the-RIAA mindset. It's all you have, stereotypes and emotion-based rhetoric.
Scapegoat? What are you talking about? All I was pointing out was that RIAA isn't some holy entity that can do no wrong. I haven't seen any of your posts that recognize this. On the contrary, I get the impression that in your world, RIAA can do no wrong.
You just can't address my points. As I said, Slashdot has become piracy central, actively advocating ripping people off just because they made the mistake of trying to sell something in a world of freeloaders with high-speed connections.
Then what are you doing here? Since we are all "college kids getting albums for free", what's your point man? Do you think your boring repetition will help change anything? I am sick os seeing you in every story about RIAA. Whenever, RIAA (or CRIA) does something stupid (are you saying that their survey is objective?) you come around and defend them? Do you see why I think that you believe that RIAA can do no evil? Because you are not objective even by your own moral/political standards. If you would really want to be objective you would blame piracy and the corporocracy. I have never seen
Dude, everyone knows you are a RIAA/MPAA apologist. Just because the corporations tell you something doesn't mean it is true. Did you even consider that the whole concept of copyright doesn't exist in the real world? That we are allowing for the creation of artificial monopolies for society's benefit. Copyright isn't something divine or something that should be on the UN's declaration of Human Rights. When will you learn that there are more important things in life then protecting corporate interests? When will you understand that not everyone believes that copyrights are useful to society? It was meant to benefit society. The vast majority of this top40 shit is imposed on us by corporations; it has gotten so bad, that I am better of looking for good music in archive.org's OSS music section. Copyright has outlives its usefulness for society, so why should people support it? RIAA does not have any right for profit. If they do get profit, that's fine, there is nothing moral about protecting a corporation! But of course, I know nothing, RIAA is always correct and evil commmie pink liberals should all die. Please, your apologist stance is getting old and pointless.
That aside, what makes you think drugs are inherintly evil? I mean if the governemnt OKs some mild drugs alcohol), why can't that be applies to other mild drugs? And generally, drop the "drugs are the root of all evil" BS, it won't stop people from doing (both mild and hard) drugs.
I will never understand you people who put private property above human life. Your just plain insane, you are actually implying that privatizing a hiking trail is good idea. And the worse thing is that we are heading down that path. Its scary.
So what if he is an admirer of Castro? At least he didn't support a corrupt government that was involved with the mafia led by Batista. You right wing need to learn that some things (human life?) are important than the free market and property rights. Doesn't it shock you that we have the capacity to eliminate hunger and poverty alll in one go, yet we are doing nothing to achieve this. And fuck trickle down economics and Reagan!
No need for such extremes. Just use Firefox with NoScript, Adblock and CookieButton. All three can be used on a whitelist basis.
Yeah, so lets give all our money to corporations, they will find better use of it, right? Please, corporations were benefit us, not waste money making us buy more shit that we don't need. I'd rather give my money to a government which at least at times spends money on things like public services and social security rather than a corporation that has no concept like humanitariansim. Corporations are good for certain things but not replacing the government.
Do you have any examples of companies seriously (not some scrap code that they don't need anymore) contributing to the BSD community? Specifically in a scenario like you described.
So how effective would several mm of aluminum foil be against strong alpha/beta radiation?
Those songs might not belong to me, but they don't belong to anyone else as well? Is right that corporations change laws to suit themselves, when in reality these laws should work for the public?
But isn't just 1mm of aluminium enough to stop both alpha and beta particles since they are so big. I thought that your skin could even stop alpha particles. And aren't Alpha and Beta particles the ionizing, high-energy radiation ones?
Your faith is fake. It doesn't make any difference whether the astronauts will survive or not. Only knowledge and science will be able to help. Stop preaching, you knew that you would cause a backlash.
How do I know that? The government doesn't need to show any evidence? Maybe you are just saying this right now to avoid being arrested? I think we shouldn't take the risk and arrest you just for the sake of it.
I am not willing to take or be subjected to that risk.
And I am not willing to subject myself to the power of the government. As student studying about Russia under the 'communist' dictatorship and a Ukrainian citizen living in Moscow, I can tell you that you don't want your country pushing up security. We have cops on every fucking corner and the worst thing is that they are pointless. All they do is stop you to check your documents (and get bribes if your forgot them). Any terrorist can pay the cops around $400 and they will have a police car escorting them. Of course the situation is slightly different in USA. But the point remains, short of kicking out ALL muslims (even that won't really help), you will only be as strong as you weakest link.
This is war - one in which you are, in fact, either with us, or against us.
But this stupid. You can't say things like that. I oppose your governments intervention in Iraq. IMHO its economically motivated. Does this mean I am against you? Does that mean I want to kill Americans or something like that? This a conformist attitude, you can't make things only black and white.
The Islamic extremists want to rebuild the Caliphate and eventually subjugate the whole world under Sharia law.
How is that different from your own christian extremists? They want to limit our liberty and impose christian rule worldwide. And their just as crazy. Sure they haven't started using bombs yet (because they don't want to be discredited), but they do intimidate doctors who are involves in abortion and help spread HIV/AIDS (you can call that bio terrorism).
1. Give them everything they want.
Never! Wouldn't want to live in a world like that. Anyway where did you get this from? I never suggested giving in to Islamic radicals.
2. Fight them everywhere they are. Your present government will never be able to do that. Didn't you forget that it's in bed with Saudi Arabia? And where does Bin Laden come from? If your government was genuinely worried about terrorism, why not invade Saudi Arabia. They supply most of the finances for terrorism and they have a huge problem with human rights abuse. And don't start about how Hussien wanted to nuke USA and help terrorist. He was mad, but he was more or less secular. He didn't really give a shit about Islam and holy wars.
Thinking bin Laden will stop attacking because we give economic aid or are nicer about globalization.
No, but if you stop treating muslims as terrorists and be nicer about globalization (cash in the middle east goes to Kings and other people in power) he will have a lot less recruits and support. Thats what really counts.
These enemies are Palestinian,
Americans and the Israelites are most responsible for creating Palestinian radicalism. Rather than financing Israel, America should have forced to close down settlements in Palestinian territory ages ago and help Palestine develop to increase living standards and promote peace. (when everything is cool in your life, there is a lot less motivation to go out and kill yourself).
Shooting innocent children in a Russian school
Did you consider why this was done? Did you know that the terrorist were willing to lets everyone go if Russian forces would get their asses out of chechnya? However, the Russian didn't allow the mass media to report this. Furthermore, you don't seem to be worried about systematic abuse by Russian forces of the chechen people! Did you consider that there might be a link between these two things. Think about it, you are much more likely to do something horrific like taking children hostage, if a bunch Russians break into you