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Record Labels Release Software To Combat Piracy

mrsalty writes "CNET reports that IFPI representatives are pushing a new piece of software to delete filesharing programs. It will also 'search computers for music and movies and remove any illegal copies'." From the article: "Digital File Check is easy to use and can help people prevent their employees, children and others from illegally downloading and swapping movies ... It could be especially useful for parents who want to encourage their children to enjoy music responsibly on the Internet ... It is free, voluntary and for private use only and does not tip off any antipiracy organizations."

427 comments

  1. fair trade? by overpayd · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Please remove your spyware-filled file-sharing software in favor of our spyware-filled file-sharing-deleter software." -IFPI

    1. Re:fair trade? by nudeatom · · Score: 5, Funny

      I tried, but it wont run on Linux. Damn this crappy operating system. I will be forced to continue using P2P networks to download fully legal software and NOT illegal music

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    2. Re:fair trade? by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I tried, but it wont run on Linux.

      That's alright. For those using a unsupported operating system, the **AA will send you a device to help you remove all pirated material on your computer and iPod.

      If you want to be doubly sure though, you can send your computer away and they'll run it through their automagic de-pirater device.

      Either way, you're sure to be safe from those evil pirated files!

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      /)
    3. Re:fair trade? by lbmouse · · Score: 4, Funny

      Turn the tables...
      Who wants to be the first to write a new piece of software to delete the Digital File Check software? It should 'search computers for annoying file-sharing-deletion programs and remove any it finds'. It should be easy to use and can help people prevent their noisy employers, parents and others from deleting their stash.

    4. Re:fair trade? by bjheu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Where's the linux removal--auto-billing Windows restoring app? Not only do I want rid of my P2P apps, but linux is an os of evil hackers and degenerate low-lives who make life harder for all of us by forcing bill gates to increase seurity, DRM etc...

      I will take my place by his side, and after we have killed piracy in all of its forms he will restore peace to the internet....

      If it weren't for the fact that I found this post amusing, I would have already shot myself for typing such blasphemous remarks.

    5. Re:fair trade? by moviepig.com · · Score: 3, Funny
      It ... does not tip off any antipiracy organizations...

      ...but a version is available that signals each illegal discovery by playing a rendition of "Folsom Prison Blues"...

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    6. Re:fair trade? by C0rinthian · · Score: 4, Funny

      But is it a legally acquired, authorized copy of "Folsom Prison Blues"?

    7. Re:fair trade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SURE GLAD THE LINK IS DEAD

    8. Re:fair trade? by Gathers · · Score: 1
      I'm also stupid enough to run Linux, and I can't even download it!
      while [ "foo" != "bar" ]; do wget --delete-after http://www.ifpi.org/dfc/downloads/setup.msi; done
      has been running for hours now and it still hasn't finished because Linux is making my computer so slow.

      Maby I'll have to download an illegal copy of it instead, using P2P software..

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    9. Re:fair trade? by Agent+Green · · Score: 4, Funny

      The question is though... ...Does it support Ogg Vorbis?

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    10. Re:fair trade? by MasterClown · · Score: 1

      Does someone have a link to a Bittorrent of this thing? I was going to put it in My Shared Crap Folder so that Lemonwire could re-distribute it.

    11. Re:fair trade? by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Who wants to be the first to write a new piece of software to delete the Digital File Check software? It should 'search computers for annoying file-sharing-deletion programs and remove any it finds'.

      Don't antivirus programs target malware in general these days ? Why would we need a new program for this ?

      It should be easy to use and can help people prevent their noisy employers, parents and others from deleting their stash.

      You aren't keeping any of your files where your employer might accidentally or purposefully delete it, are you ? And you have password-locked your home machine so your parents or other tresspassers have only a limited access if any, haven't you ? It helps tremendously to have a real multiuser operating system for the latter purpose...

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    12. Re:fair trade? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      No, they play their own MIDI synth version as a demonstration of RIAAs artistic breadth and to avoid those pesky ASCAP fees.

      Johnny Cash ... Musac style.

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    13. Re:fair trade? by zotz · · Score: 1

      While it is playing the blues, who does it tip off if not antipiracy organizations?

      all the best,

      drew
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      Rainwater Blues
      You can get it for free and you can even sell copies if you want.
      Creative Commons BY-SA License.

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    14. Re:fair trade? by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Don't need Linux to stop most trespassers, attrib +h under any Microsoft OS will do quite nicely for stopping 90% of threats. :)

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    15. Re:fair trade? by numbski · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'm torn. I refuse to install this thing. Yet I want to so badly....

      So I can submit a definition to Clam for a new virus definition. ;)

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    16. Re:fair trade? by darc · · Score: 1

      This is the best piece of software that the RIAA has ever put out. When the Campus Cops come, i'll be sure to run the RIAA Evidence Eliminator.

      Thanks RIAA!
      You saved me alot of time manually deleting incriminating files :)

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    17. Re:fair trade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let see... Record Labels Release Software To Combat Privacy^H^H^H^H^H^H Privacy?

    18. Re:fair trade? by amishdisco · · Score: 1

      The copy is totally legit, but the cd it was ripped from was stolen.

    19. Re:fair trade? by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Don't need Linux to stop most trespassers, attrib +h under any Microsoft OS will do quite nicely for stopping 90% of threats. :)

      Sure - but it's the last 10% that will get you. Better have backups, hard disks hidden to hidden compartments in your walls, and just to be sure, encase one or two in Faradays cage and bury them separately on some secret spots. Then, just to make sure you don't forget, make a map with vague instructions and a big "X" showing their location...

      Cue "Muppet Treasure Island" theme ;). But seriously, I can always make more gold, but bits, once gone, are really gone, so they should be protected more rigorously.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    20. Re:fair trade? by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      A horseshoe magnet will not ruin computer components. This is a commonly held misconception, even around very computer literate people (even me until a couple of years ago). While hard disks and many other computer devices use devices that work using magnetism, the magnetic parts and particles involved are so small that a conventional magnet will not move them. It is requires a very focused electromagnet pulsing at a specific frequency to flip bits. No magnet commonly available can do this, although the MRI machine might be able to (plus, would tear the case into shrapnel that would destroy the drives anyway). The only component in a modern computer that can be hurt by a regular refridgerator strength magnet is a floppy disk, and only at very close range. Keeping a magnet near an empty floppy drive does not cause problems though. I work in IT, and have seen computers running fine for years covered in powerful refridgerator magnets (no accounting for taste). I have even proven this on my own computer to skeptical friends. I invite them to use one of my quite powerful rare earth magnets and stick it on and into my brand new P4 system, as long as they are careful not to short anything out by touching the magnet to it. Also, while CRT displays are vunerable to distortion caused by magnets (which can often be fixed with degaussing), LCDs are completely immune to magnets, unless thrown at the display (has happened), in which case cracking can occur if the speed and mass of the magnet is sufficient. The best way to destroy a computer system is tinfoil or water poured inside. If none is available, physical beating works, but requires more effort.

    21. Re:fair trade? by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1

      LCDs are completely immune to magnets, unless thrown at the display (has happened), in which case cracking can occur if the speed and mass of the magnet is sufficient.

      Daaaaamn....

      Please, someone, mod parent Funny. More people need to be able to enjoy that one. :)

  2. OH MY GOSH! by MicroPat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait until the download completes!!!!

    1. Re:OH MY GOSH! by rovingeyes · · Score: 1

      Already did it! Thank god, the program was easy to use as the article said. I was worried may be it'd be complex and would prevent wide spread use!

    2. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't wait until it deletes users files it's not supposed to and RIAA gets sued.

    3. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > I can't wait until the download completes!!!!

      Of what, the 3.5 megabyte "setup.msi" file, or the Macromedia Flash plugin? :-)

    4. Re:OH MY GOSH! by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      Who is going to do this suing? I mean, who is going to be able to finance this? Perhaps a business, but even then, most businesses probably will not be willing to take the risk. So while it's perhaps a good solution in theory, suing them over this is most likely completely infeasible in reality.

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    5. Re:OH MY GOSH! by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > suing them over this is most likely completely infeasible in reality.

      Yeah, anyone who's read a EULA should know it disclaims all liability for anything that ever happens to anyone. Heck, even if you HAVEN'T read a EULA...

    6. Re:OH MY GOSH! by chrismcdirty · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd like to know how it differentiates between a legal file and an illegal file. Would it delete my podcasts of a local radio show that are perfectly legal, but distributed in mp3 format? Would it delete a ripped copy of a DVD that I created from a DVD recorder. Would it delete any movie files (mpeg, wmv, avi, mov) I have stored, regardless of their content? Or will it actually perform hashes on every single file stored on the computer that has an extension that could deem it illegal?

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    7. Re:OH MY GOSH! by CTalkobt · · Score: 3, Funny

      >> I can't wait until the download completes!!!!

      Geesh - think of all the disk space I could save!!! Who needs archival copies when you've got the real thing broken into pieces by your moronic three legged cat that really thought it was a frisbee and tried to catch it in her mouth. ( She jumped up, grabbed it in mid-air, bit and decided she didn't like classical music... ).

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    8. Re:OH MY GOSH! by elasticwings · · Score: 1

      Torrent anybody?

    9. Re:OH MY GOSH! by harley_frog · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Does anyone have a bittorrent for this?

      But seriously, isn't this akin to a computer virus? Who's to say that the RIAA/MPAA/IFPI/(other unknown entitiy) wouldn't/won't use this or similar program to spread a virus that deletes your MP3/Ogg/WMV/etc. files, even the legit ones? I'd file this under "Extremely Bad Ideas".

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    10. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny
      She jumped up, grabbed it in mid-air, bit and decided she didn't like classical music...

      Instead of asking the obvious question, "why were you throwing your CD" (note no "?"- I'm not a asking), I will instead point out that your kitty might have better appreciated an introduction to classical music via listening. If, however, you are comitted to an introduction of classical music via taste, I would recommend that the composers' works are played in the correct order. Nothing tastes worse than decomposing maestros.

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    11. Re:OH MY GOSH! by MCraigW · · Score: 4, Informative
      I'd like to know how it differentiates between a legal file and an illegal file.

      It doesn't. The EULA says that it doesn't and that you have to make that determination yourself. It only deletes what you tell it to delete. The EULA also says it may not find everything.

    12. Re:OH MY GOSH! by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      It does nothing of the sort. It just finds all the media files it can and lists them as possibly illegal. The user has to go through the list and mark the legit files.

      In the hands of a typical luser, this thing will wipe out ANY media on the machine.

    13. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be really pissed if it deleted my historical documentary collection (Power of Nightmares, for example)

    14. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Franklinstein · · Score: 1
      Can someone please post a .torrent?

    15. Re:OH MY GOSH! by eXtro · · Score: 1

      In other words it's the equivalent of:

          find / -name "*.mp3" -exec rm -i {} \;

    16. Re:OH MY GOSH! by dteichman2 · · Score: 1

      Umm... wouldn't that just be the same as me deleting files on my own. What's the point of a file-delete utility that does nothing that I couldn't do just as easily?

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    17. Re:OH MY GOSH! by ilyaaohell · · Score: 1

      Umm... if you care about this stuff, this software is obviously not for you. It's for grandmas who don't want their children filling up their "recipe computers" with thousands of songs and then face the possibility of being brought to court over it.

      I'm sure that if someone with your sorts of complaints wants to perform the tasks that this program is meant to accomplish, you could do it faster and easier on your own. For the people who might want to use this program, they simply won't care about the things you do.

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      UNIX: A computer user is defined as a programmer. WINDOWS: A computer user is defined as a consumer.
    18. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds very fishey to me. I would assume this is spyware, and consider it as such. Now, you are installing the RIAA trojan on your machine, forever snooping on you, then snitching on you for downloading free music.

      Please tell me you people are NOT planning to run this program on your machine. How can anyone be so stupid and run this? I went to the site, not to download the program, because I was curious of a Mac version was available, but (smile) the site was unavailable, and I'm hoping a large DDOS attack might be the reason why it's unavailable, but more then likeley it's just getting a good 'slashdotting'...

    19. Re:OH MY GOSH! by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In other words the real function of this program is to create fear, uncertainty and doubt in the minds of parents and employers who aren't savvy enough to run find on mp3s and avis.

      It doesn't delete anything, it creates social conflict which is it's function. Only they call it "talking to your kids."

      KFG

    20. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Baricom · · Score: 1

      Sorry, you just violated their patent on finding and removing audio recordings with a computer. Don't forget to remit your settlement fee in a timely manner. You can call the Recording Industry Association of America legal advice hotline if you have any questions.

    21. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you take a look at the flash tutorial for the app, the scanning identifies 3 zip-files that belong to Java Runtime Env. So, if a less knowledgeable person scans the system and selects "Delete all", they no longer have a working Java installation...

    22. Re:OH MY GOSH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could use it to find your kids filez because you don't know how to download them yourself...

    23. Re:OH MY GOSH! by kfg · · Score: 1

      Ah, you'd want a program that finds image filez for that.

      KFG

    24. Re:OH MY GOSH! by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

      Of course I know that this software is not for me. The questions I posed were actually referring to the philosophical me, and not the actual me. And the philosophical me, in this case, was a reference to the average user who may fear that the FBI will come knocking down their door if they don't delete all their illegal files.

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    25. Re:OH MY GOSH! by uvatbc · · Score: 1

      You mean to say that all this is just a GUI around 'rm -f' ?

  3. Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by Tikicult · · Score: 1

    Any bets on how long the program will remain uncracked?

    1. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by rovingeyes · · Score: 1

      RTFA - it is voluntary at this point. Why the fuck do you wanna download it? Are you so self-rightheous? Then don't wait for it to be cracked!!!

    2. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by hesiod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > RTFA - it is voluntary at this point.

      I think he means so people can get around it at work, where they don't have any say in what gets installed on "their" PCs.

      I just wonder... what if someone renamed all their .MP3 files to .FKU and associated .FKU with WinAmp... Unless the thing tried to read ID3 tags from every file on the disk, I wouldn't think it would know for sure.

    3. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by Pichu0102 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If it checks for ID3 tags on every file, does this mean if you add ID3 tags to iexplore.exe, it'll remove it?

    4. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by EvanED · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wait... wait...

      Why iexplore.exe?

      Why not add an ID3 tag to itself?

      What will happen then?

    5. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by hesiod · · Score: 1

      Don't think the running program could delete itself.

    6. Re:Waiting for the crack in ... 10, 9, 8, by lisany · · Score: 1

      Must be a windows thing...

      *hugs her inodes

  4. Voluntary for how long? by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Indeed, considering the political clout of these media groups, it would not be unreasonable to believe that running such software on a very regular basis will become mandatory in the near future. Of course, what that means for non-Windows users is uncertain.

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    1. Re:Voluntary for how long? by rovingeyes · · Score: 1

      Doesn't apply to non-windows users. Mac fanatics are eager to pay to Itunes so they are not worried about them. Unix users are mostly serious about their work and they don't fuck around. That leaves linux community but they have DVDJon on their side. So RIAA and gang know that it is already cracked.

    2. Re:Voluntary for how long? by c · · Score: 2, Funny
      Of course, what that means for non-Windows users is uncertain.

      Well, I tried it but it didn't find anything...

      cpb@localhost:~$ dfc.exe
      bash: /home/cpb/bin/dfc.exe: cannot execute binary file
      c.
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    3. Re:Voluntary for how long? by Lord+Raze · · Score: 1

      what that means for non-Windows users is uncertain

      That means it's only a matter of time until "unregulated operating system software" like Linux is declared illegal.

      Or maybe not illegal, but perhaps anyone running Linux will be viewed by other people with suspicion.

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    4. Re:Voluntary for how long? by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      Indeed, that's what I was suggesting. Just like anybody with a backpack is now considered a "terrorist" in London, soon enough anybody running a non-Microsoft operating system will automatically be declared a "copyright infringer". If you don't run such programs then it will be assumed you are guilty of copyright infringement, and you will be punished immediately.

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    5. Re:Voluntary for how long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I quote: "Unix users are mostly serious about their work and they don't fuck around."

    6. Re:Voluntary for how long? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Or more likely you'll be forced to run a DRM enabled Windows machine to view any content produced by the major record labels or movie publishers.

    7. Re:Voluntary for how long? by maotx · · Score: 1

      Well, for those like me who read this article and thought it sounded familar, the MPAA tried it once before. Haven't heard anything from it since so I'd imagine that this one will go the same way and we'll never hear from it again either.

      From the looks of it, they pretty much operate the same way. Scan your computer for media files, display the results, and you choose which ones to delete.

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  5. It must use magic! by Inkieminstrel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How, pray tell, does it tell the difference between bits that come from my CDs that I own versus those which come from CDs that others own? I believe one of those copies is perfectly legal.

    1. Re:It must use magic! by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It probably doesn't. After all, these companies don't exactly believe in fair use, even if it is legally mandated. As far as they're concerned, any such file should be treated as an illegal copy, and thus should be deleted. It's quite possible that that's what this software has been designed to assume.

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    2. Re:It must use magic! by Doctor+Ian · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's a slight difference between what you believe and what they believe. Can't put my finger on it, though.

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    3. Re:It must use magic! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It apparantly can't tell a .txt file from a movie.

      On the "Media in other folders" page they list "log.txt" as a legitimate file to delete.
      There are others (zip files inside java folders etc)

      It also lists something called "music.wma" from the all users/my music folder.

      If I remember rightly, thats default and installed legally on windows xp.

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    4. Re:It must use magic! by techstar25 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It doesn't try to determine which is legal and which isn't. It only compiles a list of ALL the media files on your computer, and then compiles a list of all the media file in your "shared" folder. Any deleting has to be done by the user.

    5. Re:It must use magic! by hungrygrue · · Score: 1

      Easy, as far as the RIAA is concearned, the music that you have purchased is perfectly safe because it is on the CD where it belongs. I think their filter looks something like this: "rm -rf *.mp3"

    6. Re:It must use magic! by interiot · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The EULA is short and scary. In summary, his tool is designed to rid yourself of illegal files, but please back the illegal files up first (oh, and we blame the "unpredictable file sharing programs" for any damage).
      1. IFPI's suppliers have developed the Software solely to perform the limited functions described in this license under these terms of use. IFPI, its national groups and its suppliers do not make any other warranties or guaranties about the Software, its operation or results, and the Software is thus provided 'AS IS' and 'WITH ALL FAULTS'.

      2. ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR OTHER TERMS (INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE) ARE EXCLUDED.

      3. Given that the Software is provided at no charge, the downloading, installation and use of the Software is done at your own discretion and risk. Given the unpredictable behavior of some file-sharing programs, you should always retain a back up of important programs and files on your computer when installing or using software like this.

      4. In no event shall IFPI, its national groups, its Software or other suppliers, or endorsing parties be liable to you or any third party for any damages, whether direct, indirect, incidental, special, punitive, consequential or other damages of any kind. Consumers' statutory rights are unaffected.

      5. It is your responsibility to comply with the law and the terms of this license. The user will indemnify and hold IFPI, its national groups, suppliers and endorsing parties harmless from any claim or demand, and damages and costs arising thereof, made by any third party due to or arising out of the user's violation of the law or this license.

    7. Re:It must use magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They believe the Consitution is a roll of toilet paper. Since they pay the election funding of most politicians in office, they are not necessarily wrong.

    8. Re:It must use magic! by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      Just "rm -rf *" is more likely to get all those pesky illegal wossnames you have cavorting around your hard drive. Plus it's four keystrokes less work for the recording industry.

    9. Re:It must use magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Screw that! I'm not running that crap on my system for any reason. Even if they made it mandatory, I'm not letting any of these scum bags anywhere near my system. Just think, they probably have a way to plant anything they want on your system and when they do plant something and then "find it" you're automatically guilty because THEIR software found something that wasn't supposed to be there. Heck why stop there, why not let the government install software to plant falsified evidence on every citizen's hard drive and then put everyone in jail.

      I say personal privacy invasion by the government and business/other groups has GOT TO STOP!!!!!

    10. Re:It must use magic! by stuuf · · Score: 1

      "find / -name '*.mp3' -exec rm -f {} \;" would make more sense.

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    11. Re:It must use magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect that the software makes the assumption that any music which is not DRMd is illegal and will there for delete it.

    12. Re:It must use magic! by DavidBartlett · · Score: 1

      Or, more likely, it deletes non-drm'd media files. Remember that they want you to consume their media, as long as they get to decide how and where.

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    13. Re:It must use magic! by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      Actually it makes the assumption that any media is illegal. No checking for DRM or any of that nonsense.

    14. Re:It must use magic! by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

      Another way it might know if something is illegal if it has a "definition" file
      like Norton-AntiVirus for example and has a list of CRCs of illegals or the
      other way around, CRCs or legals or something a legal song's file header that
      makes it appear to be valid.

    15. Re:It must use magic! by zopf · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to write a virus that pops up a EULA that most users would click Yes to before it installs itself. Would it then be legal?

      Then again, I guess CoolWebSearch et al have already done it, albeit by exploiting holes in people's brains rather than in computer software :).

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    16. Re:It must use magic! by ElGameR · · Score: 1

      3. Given that the Software is provided at no charge, the downloading, installation and use of the Software is done at your own discretion and risk. Given the unpredictable behavior of some file-sharing programs, you should always retain a back up of important programs and files on your computer when installing or using software like this.

      So, if I don't have any file sharing programs, I run this tool and it breaks my computer, can I sue them?

    17. Re:It must use magic! by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

      More than likely, it would just check for a valid DRM signature on each audio file. If one does not exist, like one you ripped from a CD you own into a MP3 file, it will, of course, delete it for you and accuse you of being a pirate. Then it will pop up ads telling you where you can buy a DRM copy of the songs due to the Spyware/Adware it installed. Lucky you, you get to buy each song you like twice in order to have a copy of it on your computer and a CD, to comply with the RIAA's definition of DRM. Once with your CD purchase, and twice via a DRM Music Store because your MP3 file just got wiped as a possibly bootleg copy and future MP3 rips will be deleted as well as remove the software that does the ripping. If you want a backup, simply buy a third copy. See how many rights they just gave you? Most people who do not use this software have the right to backup their songs, but this software takes away that right and gives you the right to buy multiple copies of the same song so the RIAA has a right to make more money off of you. Two rights do not make a wrong, so it must be more right!

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    18. Re:It must use magic! by InvalidError · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting if music buyers initiated a class-action suit against the RIAA for destroying fair use... but this will have to wait until DRM has become more of a pain in the ass - need more inconvenienced people to show the courts that DRM ultimately creates more problems than it solves.

    19. Re:It must use magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I'd be more curious to see how long it is before this software accidentally deletes, say, some programmer's work that happens to share a filename with a P2P software program and that programmer sues for destruction of private property.

    20. Re:It must use magic! by Rolan · · Score: 1

      Read prettymuch any EULA and you'll see the exact same thing. A lot of open source software has the same disclaimers attached, it is standard practice to avoid lawsuits due to bugs.

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    21. Re:It must use magic! by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      2. ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR OTHER TERMS (INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE) ARE EXCLUDED.

      I took business law and the exclusion in item 2 are illegal. They are called implied warranties for a reason. If you say a program is going to do something and it does something else then that is a breach of the implied warranty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implied_warranty Notice the last part about the term being deemed unconscionable and any clause limiting liability being deemed prima facie unconscionable.

      This basically means that if this program deletes files that you did pay for and this causes you financial loss because there are no backups then you can and should sue the creater of said software. BTW, IANAL.

    22. Re:It must use magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The demo for installing the software has them simply clicking through their own EULA.

      "Just click OK... we're here to help!"

  6. Didn't someone do something like this before? by tlpalmer · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember someone releasing a scanner for illegal files a while ago which turned out just to flag things randomly by file extension or something.

  7. Yes, but... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    Does it run on Linux?

    Seriously, though, I think this is a good idea. It's voluntary, and should be used by parents to keep their kids in line. (Around here, don't we normally bitch about parents not being involved in their kids' growth?)

    1. Re:Yes, but... by CyricZ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It starts out as voluntary. Then it's mandated by law. Soon enough it becomes illegal to run operating system software that this software does not run on. And they do not port it beyond Windows. Indeed, this could become a very powerful weapon against Apple. If running such software on a regular basis becomes mandatory by law, and a port is not made to Mac OS X, then Apple could be in a real bind. Wouldn't that be something if the media groups were able to get revenge on Jobs for his recent animosity towards them by basically outlawing Mac OS X, hmm?

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    2. Re:Yes, but... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      And I thought I was paranoid.

      There's going to be so many problems implementing this software in a way that doesn't piss people off that any attempt at making it mandatory will lead to a consumer revolt.

    3. Re:Yes, but... by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      No, I think the consumers will just bend over a bit further so that they can be fully penetrated. Let's be honest; Western consumers have forgotten how to revolt. That's why people still buy software, DVDs, CDs, etc., with crippling copy protection. Sure, such things are an inconvenience, but most people don't have the testicles, time, or willingness to stand up and say, "THIS IS BULLSHIT!"

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    4. Re:Yes, but... by DarkMantle · · Score: 1

      It's voluntary, and should be used by parents to keep their kids in line.

      But how long until it's bundled with the latest version of GAIN, or CoolWebSearch?

      Spyware by any other name is still spyware.

      I realize this is CURRENTLY a voluntary download. But how long until it's part of the Kazaa downloader? We know Kazaa will do it for enough money, and to prove that there are "Legitament" reasons for using their program. And the payed version won't have it so you can download all the free copyrighted material you want for only $39.99.

      Thank you, please pass the torrents.

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    5. Re:Yes, but... by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Does it run on Linux?
       
      More importantly, does it delete Linux?

    6. Re:Yes, but... by blincoln · · Score: 1

      That's why people still buy software, DVDs, CDs, etc., with crippling copy protection.

      What crippling copy protection is that? I haven't had any trouble duplicating any of those things. DVDs are the "hardest," and DVD Shrink does those for me automatically on the rare occasions when e.g. I want to de-regioncode Wonderful Days so it plays on the DVD player in my living room.

      The copy "protection" on current media is at worst an inconvenience. I rarely notice it, and when I do it's more like having to pat the RIAA/MPAA on the head and give them a gold star sticker for effort.

      If they implement the things they *really* want, like Divx-style remote authentication, self-destructing players, et cetera, that will be a different story. People are not going to accept those kinds of restricitons on the things they buy.

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    7. Re:Yes, but... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I still buy CDs because i've never seen one of these copy protected CDs actually accomplish anything. When i'm booted up in Linux, nothing special happens. When I'm booted up in windows, where I have disabled the ability to automatically insert any disk I insert, nothing happens. Why would people leave this option on. I'm perfectly capable of executing the software on a disk myself. I don't need the computer starting programs just because I put a disk in. That's just asking for problems. And DVDs are just as bad. The encryption doesn't stop you from copying a disk, bit for bit, and playing it somewhere else. All it prevents if being able to copy the files onto your computer, and play them, without knowing how to crack the encryption. If they want something that will truly get less pirating problems, create a disk format that isn't readable on computers. Like the gamecube. Sure some stuff will get pirated, but the average Joe won't be able to read the disk on their computer, not without buying shady hardware, from a shady dealer. The mistake they have been making all along is using general data disks for storing media, when they should really be using media disks which can only be used legally on licensed players.

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    8. Re:Yes, but... by Kream · · Score: 1

      "... automatically insert any disk I insert, nothing happens."

      must be the vista beta.

  8. Remove illegal copies??? by jarich · · Score: 4, Interesting
    And how do they know what an illegal copy looks like? Are they deleting every song on my computer that doesn't have DRM on it?

    So the kid with 20 gigs of music he copied off of his CD collection is going to be ~really~ upset when he finds out his Mom ran this program on his computer and wiped out his ~legal~ music collection.

    1. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by sedyn · · Score: 1

      I think the kid that has been making their own mp3s in a garage band is going to be even more pissed off.

      Well, maybe not as pissed off as their father who lost his porn collection. ^_^

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    2. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by JWeinraub · · Score: 1

      which is why my computer is password protected and i always lock it when i leave the console.

    3. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by shoolz · · Score: 1

      I watched the (tedious) demo of the software, and it indicates that it does NOT delete the media (video, music, etc), but simply runs the uninstallers for the file-sharing applications it finds.

    4. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by kaiser423 · · Score: 1

      I would imagine that they'll just delete the mp3's that are in the filesharing program's directory.

    5. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      Actually, you are right. Even if there was a checksum, that does not take into account different encoders, bitrates, or even the built in error correction scheme, which makes every copy not an exact duplicate of the original sometimes.

      --
      music lover since 1969
    6. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by Blindman · · Score: 1

      I just read the demo of the software, and it doesn't know what music is illegal and isn't. Basically, it informs the user about all of the media files present on the machine and gives the user the option of deleting any or all of the media. It's main feature seems to be propaganda. Presumably a clueless employer or parent, will say, "This software told me that this program or media might be illegal so I guess I'd better do what the nice program says."

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    7. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would imagine that they'll just delete the mp3's that are in the filesharing program's directory.

      soo.. you're saying that putting an MP3, even one you hold the copyright to, in a "filesharing" directory is illegal?

      Back to the point: How can the software *know* the difference between a legal and an illegal MP3?

      (hint: it can't.)

    8. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that it also has a tabbed view of all media files found on your computer and allows you to manually check and delete the found files. This program does not know anything about legally ripped vs. illegally downloaded files. It simply finds and lists media files and provides a way for paranoid parents to delete said files enmass.

      This is not a intelligent tool, this is just the next step in the music and video industry's plan to brainwash uninformed people.

      As Slashdot posters loves to say, "Nothing to see here, move along..."

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    9. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fucking commie kids recording the music they just created in their parents' garage. Anti-capitalistic hate-mongering terrorists! Hopefully the next version of this program detects such social filth, kicks them square in the scrotums, cuts their guitar strings, and defecates on their drum set. That ought to teach those punks for being creative without enlisting the permission of the recording industry.

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    10. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by superdoo · · Score: 1

      It's the modern equivalent of mom throwing away your hockey cards!

    11. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by bryce1012 · · Score: 1

      Well, uploading that MP3 - legally obtained or not - is a violation of copyright laws. And if that MP3 is in a "filesharing" directory, it's a reasonable assumption that it's being uploaded. That's how these programs work, after all.

    12. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spooky, so when I upload my music I'm breaking copyright law?

      I guess I was supposed to ask permission?

      Presumably from the Disney corporation, who in your bizarre alternate universe own everything?

      See, 'cos I figured that with it being MY music, maybe I could decide who I gave it to, but you're right, that wouldn't serve our corporate masters and is therefore a form of terrorism.

    13. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't you mean porn mags

    14. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by rockabilly · · Score: 1

      "And how do they know what an illegal copy looks like? Are they deleting every song on my computer that doesn't have DRM on it?"

      Easy. They check for signs of virus and worm code that seems to come with all P2P shared files these days.

    15. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by DeckardJK · · Score: 1

      Excessive use of characters in filenames such as:

      ~, @, !, or 3 letter acronyms that obviously stands for something lame. [COK], .

      I better watch myself or else the 1337 h4x0rz will ping flood me off /.

    16. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by Braxton_the_Covenant · · Score: 1

      It is a sad world when a program like this is marketed to parents to install on their teenagers computer with greater publicity than a program that will find and alert them to any pr0n that might be on there.

    17. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by bryce1012 · · Score: 1

      Ooops. Didn't read that closely enough.

      Product of a public education, I guess.

    18. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by superdoo · · Score: 1

      That's because it's usually the parents that are trying to hide the porn from their teenagers...

    19. Re:Remove illegal copies??? by mazarin5 · · Score: 1
      And how do they know what an illegal copy looks like?

      Maybe this is phase I, and it's calling home with hashes and whether or not the parent or employer deemed the file legal or illegal. Perhaps in phase II, it will make recommendations based on popular responses. They do say it doesn't report to any anti-piracy group, but that could just as well mean it reports to another entity that is training a filter.

      Just a thought.

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      Fnord.
  9. Hmm by Kiashien · · Score: 0

    Various issues asside..

    I wonder if it'll kill off all the spyware that comes with various P2P services as well?

    If so, I wonder if I could load it as a quiet service on my parent's computer, to keep my little brother from @#%$#@'ng hosing it again with god knows what off P2P...

    It is, however, a silly concept to think it'll actually affect piracy.

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    1. Re:Hmm by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

      It's going to remove illegal content (including spyware), scan your documents and replace all occurrences of the word 'evolution' with the phrase 'Intelligent design'.

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  10. Oh, the liability! by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how long it'll be before they start getting sued by people and companies when the software misidentifies something legitimate and winds up disabling computers...

    1. Re:Oh, the liability! by kingj02 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I wonder how long it'll be before they start getting sued by people and companies when the software misidentifies something legitimate and winds up disabling computers...
      For the EULA: "Software is thus provided 'AS IS' and 'WITH ALL FAULTS'."
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  11. HAH!!! by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, I haven't laughed this hard all day. Why can't the Slashdot April Fools posts have this level of quality?

    1. Re:HAH!!! by tktk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because the Slashdot April Fools jokes are written by unpaid fools. If you want quality fools, you have to go with RIAA or MPAA.

  12. How does it know if it's illegal? by stickyc · · Score: 1

    I didnt see anything about how they determine if the files are illegal. I'd be mighty pissed if it went and nuked my collection of mp3.com, itunes, and personal CD rips.

    1. Re:How does it know if it's illegal? by legojenn · · Score: 1

      I didnt see anything about how they determine if the files are illegal. I'd be mighty pissed if it went and nuked my collection of mp3.com, itunes, and personal CD rips. Then don't put them on a computer you are not the administrator of.

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  13. How can they tell? by nathan+s · · Score: 1

    Seriously, are they just wiping all non-DRM'd content from your system if it matches some sort of checksum or keywords? I'm not sure how they can tell what movies and music files are "illegal," from TFA.

  14. Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by FatRatBastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have over 1,000 CD's that I have legally ripped (since I have purchased the buggers over my lifetime). How does your software determine that they are "legal," as opposed to an mp3 that I could have illegally downloaded off of the net?

    1. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by Kirth · · Score: 1

      Please explain the concept of "illegal download". As far as law in my country is concerned, there is no illegal download. There just is illegal publication.

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    2. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      Read the help section on their little flash site, it clearly states that it doesn't determine the difference between legal and illegal, it compiles a list of filesharing progams, music, videos, and images, then lets the person running it decide what to delete. Having said that, I wonder if they'll break into the desktop search market.

    3. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by horza · · Score: 1

      The IFPI Finland states that "being able to play music on a Linux or Apple computer is a privilege not a right, and that those that can't because of DRM'd CDs should just go out and buy a CD player". Hence the Finnish version just deletes every mp3 file on your hard drive.

      Phillip.

    4. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by fermion · · Score: 1

      Well. when you paid the licensing fee to legally rip the CD, as opposed to the licensing fee to privately listen to the CD in your comfort of your home with the very few people you directly know, I am sure you received a code. You may enter this code for each MP3 to prove you have a legal copy.

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    5. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this by repetty · · Score: 1

      >> Well. when you paid the licensing fee to legally rip the CD...

      Actually, a component of the cost of all the blank CD-ROMs sold in the U.S. is designated to offset sales losses to the RIAA. At least that was the case 10-years ago.

      As far as I'm concerned, I've already paid fees so that I can rip the music that I own.

  15. Next Up On Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Digital File Check Remover beta released...

  16. Yeah right... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "It is free, voluntary and for private use only and does not tip off any antipiracy organizations."

    When you release the source code, I might believe you.

    1. Re:Yeah right... by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1

      Well you could just monitor out going packets to see if it's sending anything....

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    2. Re:Yeah right... by doublem · · Score: 1

      I found the source:

      c:
      cd \
      dir /s/b *.mp3 >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt
      dir /s/b *.avi >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt
      dir /s/b *.jpg >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt
      dir /s/b *.ogg >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt
      dir /s/b *.mp? >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt
      dir /s/b *.mov >> List_of_Evil_Pirate_files.txt

      d: ....

      It just goes on from there

      Damn, which I'd thought of writing that. It looks pretty simple.

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    3. Re:Yeah right... by RexRhino · · Score: 1

      Well, it doesn't tip off any anti-piracy organization if you have a firewall properly configured to only send out packets from software you authorize to do so! :)

    4. Re:Yeah right... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Well you could just monitor out going packets to see if it's sending anything....

      So you can know AFTER it sends its payload to the RIAA police? What good does that do?

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    5. Re:Yeah right... by Lesson+No.+25 · · Score: 1
      Well you could just monitor out going packets to see if it's sending anything....
      So you can know AFTER it sends its payload to the RIAA police? What good does that do?
      *cough* ..zonealarm.. *cough*
    6. Re:Yeah right... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      I think he was speaking of using something like Ethereal, which runs on both Linux and Windows. Zone Alarm doesn't run on Linux or Mac, and not everyone uses Windows.

      Zone Alarm is a fine for a client side firewall, but its not hardly a replacment for a real firewall. If the application automatically opens up IE to send its data via your web browser (before you can stop it), then Zone Alarm has been effectively bypassed unless you had all internet access locked down.

      I can do the same by unplugging my ethernet cable, or just logging into my linux router and turn off forwarding with a few keystrokes. Except this way actually works no matter what.

      Yea, Zone Alarm is a nice program, especially for free, but it is far from complete protection. Especially on operating systems it doesn't install on.

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    7. Re:Yeah right... by Lesson+No.+25 · · Score: 1

      Insightful post. Thanks.

  17. Interesting by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...how these people use "employees and children" in one sentence. It's as if they think the two are nearly synonymous.

    1. Re:Interesting by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're obviously not a manager. Employees are children that will sit around and post to slashdot all day if not monitored closely.

      BTW I'm not a manager either.

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    2. Re:Interesting by JhohannaVH · · Score: 1

      Thus creating the hostility filled workplaces that we have to go to today. *feh*

      At least, that's a major experience I've had. It's taken me 5 years to FIND a job where the managers don't try to treat you as their children. Don't treat them like it, they won't act like it.

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    3. Re:Interesting by Morgalyn · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of PHB's view themselves as benevolent grandfathers or uncles. "Please sir, can I go pee-pee now?" "Not for another 22 minutes"

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    4. Re:Interesting by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      ..how these people use "employees and children" in one sentence. It's as if they think the two are nearly synonymous.

      Depends on two conditions:

      a) Are the children over 18, and
      b) Do they live in their mothers' basement?

    5. Re:Interesting by smose · · Score: 1

      It's as if they think [employees and children] are nearly synonymous.

      ...except that children are somewhat more trusted by their parents.

      The likely objective is to threaten parents and employers alike. With such software available, both can now be held liable for the transgressions of their children or employees, who are to be brainwashed^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H taught to recognize the RIAA's sovereign right to take your money in exchange for the privelege to listen.

      Besides, sharing at work takes away from the time you should be working and is a glaring abuse of company resources. Kinda like posting on /. (ahem).

    6. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nor monitored closely.

    7. Re:Interesting by SgtPepperKSU · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks a lot!

      You just guilted me into getting back to work.
      Hope you're happy; I'm sure not.

    8. Re:Interesting by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 1

      I resent that remark!



      even though this is the first post I have made while not at work

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    9. Re:Interesting by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 1

      Crap! I forgot to check "Post Anonymously"!

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    10. Re:Interesting by XSforMe · · Score: 1

      And exactly, why do you think we managers never post to slashdot?

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  18. huh? by dsbeav · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So how is this software going to differienate between the legitmate stuff I ripped from my cd collection in regular mp3 format, and the stuff I might have downloaded from something like bit tor?

  19. victory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    yay now the 10 people against piracy can keep their kids from enjoying it too!

    1. Re:victory! by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of people agains piracy. Just because they don't have/use computers doesn't make them any less human.

  20. Deleting illegal content from corporate machines. by pwnage · · Score: 2, Funny
    My guess is that any corporate sysadmin who runs this program in their enterprise is likely to affect 90% of other sysadmin boxes and 2% of locked down user workstations.

    Just a guess.

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  21. Everybody download this. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Then sue the hell out of them when it deletes something it shouldn't.

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    1. Re:Everybody download this. by CyricZ · · Score: 1

      Will such an argument actually stand up in court, though? Will most people be able to finance such a lawsuit? Chances are the answer to both is 'no'.

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    2. Re:Everybody download this. by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Hmm, bad idea. The free, voluntary, etc.. kinda gets them around that. What if everyone started suing GNU for rm deleting things it shouldn't?

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    3. Re:Everybody download this. by zecg · · Score: 1

      You really think their EULA doesn't cover such a case? After all, the software only (howtoputit)... helps... (yes, that'll do) parents "encourage" children to enjoy music "responsibly".

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    4. Re:Everybody download this. by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      It does not matter what the EULA says. You can sue them for false advertising and damages that resulted from it if they claim it finds "illegal" music in their advertisements, when it really just finds music in particular formats. From a quick look, however, they claim all this does is find all music and video files as well ass P2P programs on your computer and leave it up to you to decide if they are illegal. Basically, it is useless except to make it easier for clueless people to delete all the mp3's on their machine. They might be liable for their claims that anything in your shared folders is likely to be illegal, since that is a very difficult statement to back up, but it is pretty iffy.

    5. Re:Everybody download this. by splanky · · Score: 1

      It does matter what the EULA says. Since you are claiming to know something about law, do you want to represent the people who think they will sue over this? Come now.

    6. Re:Everybody download this. by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      As I'm sure it understands fair use.

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    7. Re:Everybody download this. by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      It does matter what the EULA says.

      To my knowledge the contents of an EULA have never, ever mitigated the effects of marketing claims in a court of law in the United States. If you put up advertising claiming a product does something, it does not matter how many warnings or disclaimers you put in the EULA, instructions, included literature, etc. If the disclaimer is not on the advertisement proper, then a company will lose a case claiming the consumer was misled by their advertising. If you'd like to cite any court case where this has happened I'd be quite interested to read it.

      In this particular instance, all the advertisement seems very vague, and does not actually claim it will find or remove "illegal" files from your computer (as I mentioned in my previous post).

  22. Voluntary? by Ikn · · Score: 1

    Voluntary huh? Yeah, this is really going to accomplish anything. If it were mandatory on all machines built from now on, perhaps, there would be a massive rebellion; keeping it voluntary keeps it from ever doing anything, really. Some parents might use it, but why use it, make yourself pay (if your child is under, say, 15) for your kid's music if you know they can get it for free? If they're older than that, if a parent tries to use it, chances are their child knows more about the software involved than the parent (not always the case), and it's...I don't know where I'm going exactly, but the point is this is silly and pointless. The software, not this post. (At least I think so).

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    1. Re:Voluntary? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
      If it were mandatory on all machines built from now on,

      Oh, it will be. You just have to take it one step at a time. Just wait for the Protection of Lawful Record Industry Profits Act of 2007.

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  23. Affirmative Defense by hubs99 · · Score: 1

    Could people use this as an affirmative defense if caught? I found that my child had downloaded copyrighted material but I used "your tool" to delete it. If they are providing a solution to files that have already been downloaded then are they forgiving us for our past sins?

  24. and the problem is? by dirk · · Score: 1

    And where exactly is the problem with this? When they sue people, they always claim they didn't do it, it was their kids. And many people stand up and say they shouldn't be sued because their kids did it, or someone else did it, or they didn't know it was on their computer. Now they are putting out software that will tell people exactly if something suspect in on their system and help get rid of it. Isn't this what we want, a way for people to actually know what is going on on their system? It's voluntary, and removes the BS excuse of "I didn't know" because now they have an easy way to know.

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    1. Re:and the problem is? by elmegil · · Score: 1

      The fact that it's impossible to distinguish between an MP3 I downloaded from the net, and one that I legally ripped from my own $18 CD. You might as well tell clueless parents to do the windows equivalent of find / -name \*.mp3 -exec rm -f {} \; Note that I have no clue what that equivalent might be.

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    2. Re:and the problem is? by eric76 · · Score: 1

      Actually, in most cases, ripping a song from a CD you purchased is also a copyright violation.

      Many people try to claim that is legal because U.S. copyright law allows you to make a backup copy. But that argument is flawed because the law specifically refers to software. It does not extend to music CDs.

      So, while you are unlikely to be caught making such copies, it is not a legal practice at all.

    3. Re:and the problem is? by Freexe · · Score: 1

      From what I understand, it removes P2P programs and flags/deletes suspect files contained within the download folders. IMHO this is a good thing as it will give some power back to employers and parents over what is happening n thier computers.

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    4. Re:and the problem is? by elmegil · · Score: 1

      If a parent/employer needs this program to "get some power back", then they are complete idiots and should ship that computer back to its manufacturer.

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    5. Re:and the problem is? by elmegil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, you mean there's a whole industry dedicated to selling devices that use illegal copies of software, namely iPods and their ilk? Remember, MP3 players predate iTunes and other for pay services by quite a bit, and I don't recall the RIAA going after those manufacturers then or now. Even though you'd think that eliminating one avenue of the demand for these "illegal copies" would be obvious....

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    6. Re:and the problem is? by Freexe · · Score: 1

      You are talking about 70-95% of all people who use computers. You are being unrealitic.

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    7. Re:and the problem is? by elmegil · · Score: 1, Insightful
      I dunno, seems to me that most of the libertarian leaning folks around here are usually all about personal responsibility. WTF is up with parents buying computers that they can't police? If a parent buys their teenager a firearm and the kid kills himself or a friend or commits a crime with it, is it unrealistic to blame the parent then? If not, why with the computer?

      Parents I know, who are concerned about their kids activities online, have simple methods that require no technical expertise whatsoever to police: put the computer in a public room of the house, put a password on it, buy a firewall (like the ones from Linksys) that have parental controls that are easy to use.

      You don't leave power tools around for your kids to screw with and hurt themselves, you monitor them to be sure they are using them safely. Why wouldn't you do the same with any other tool?

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    8. Re:and the problem is? by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      Actually, in most cases, ripping a song from a CD you purchased is also a copyright violation.

      Many people try to claim that is legal because U.S. copyright law allows you to make a backup copy. But that argument is flawed because the law specifically refers to software. It does not extend to music CDs.

      So, while you are unlikely to be caught making such copies, it is not a legal practice at all.

      If you were correct, then companies such as Apple and Creative would be in quite a bit of trouble. Fortunately for them, the above is not accurate. Copyright covers distribution. Space shifting and format shifting is definitely allowable. You are not allowed to distribute copies of songs to others, though casual copying is usually overlooked. If Apple made a device that hooked to the Internet and claimed to share your ripped songs with everything in the world, the recording industry would bleed them dry.

    9. Re:and the problem is? by eric76 · · Score: 1

      That argument is nonsense.

      I don't think that the RIAA is particularly worried about someone making a copy of something they already paid for. That is probably largeley because they prefer to claim that the entire piracy problem is p2p software related.

      From what I've seen, most people don't make copies of their CDs unless they also distribute them by one way or another. There are exceptions, of course.

      So if the RIAA could close down the file sharing applications, that would take care of probably 90% of the "problem".

      Furthermore, many MP3 files are legal. For example, up to a year or so ago, someone who subscribed to eMusic could download up to about 2,000 tracks a month as part of their subscription, and a few did.

      In any event, the music industry is attacking their concerns about things like MP3 players by trying to get everyone to use DRM.

    10. Re:and the problem is? by eric76 · · Score: 1
      Copyright covers distribution. Space shifting and format shifting is definitely allowable. You are not allowed to distribute copies of songs to others, though casual copying is usually overlooked.

      Copyright covers copying as well as distribution.

      Making a copy without the permission of the copyright owner is usually a violation of copyright law unless the copyright owner has granted you the right to make the copy.

      There are, of course, exceptions. The best known is when you copy only a small portion for certain purposes. Others include things like certain organizations that make copies of works for use by the blind or deaf.

      You are correct that "casual copying is usually overlooked", but then that is what I already said, but in different words. It is usually overlooked, but it is still a copyright infringement.

    11. Re:and the problem is? by elmegil · · Score: 1
      That argument is nonsense.

      You're the one who said that ripping CDs you own is a copyright violation. If the RIAA agreed with you, they'd be using their strongarm tactics on every manufacturer of MP3 players that weren't DRM locked. The DMCA would outlaw such things. Etc.

      As for your ASSERTION based on ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that most people distribute the MP3's they rip, I don't know what planet you live on, but everyone I know who owns one of those same MP3 players rips their CDs and only a handful bother with P2P virus spreading applications. So, rather than rely on my anectdote or your anectdote, why don't you find some real data?

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  25. I have it too ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    rm -r -f /

    1. Re:I have it too ... by linuxinit · · Score: 1

      You can combine the switches... rm -rf / ;)

  26. yeah, that'll work by SSPinkerton · · Score: 1

    finally, an end to file sharing once and for all...

  27. Sould familar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like a tool the MPAA release awhile ago. The problem with MPAA version is it doesn't distingush between legally aquired songs and movies and pirated one.
    I would if this software suffers from the same flaw (I suspect it does).

  28. 4 Step Method Slashdot method by hoka · · Score: 1

    1) Wait for *AA's to make new software announcement 2) Post story with direct link to software on front page 3) Sip coffee as their server crumbles 4) Profit!

    1. Re:4 Step Method Slashdot method by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      better yet change:

      4) sweet revenge

      everyone download this like 20-30 times. use it or not is your choice but download it anyway.

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  29. Clarification by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    I said it's a good idea. I have no doubt the actual implementation has flaws.

  30. children to enjoy music responsibly! by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When was the last time children enjoyed music responsibly. Are we so far back into the conservative era that even our kids are just boring do goodders in a three piece suite listening to how horrible it is to lie? God I hope not. For the past 40 years or so music has been one thing that kids can do irresponsibly without causing massive destruction. Take that away from them and they will have to turn to drugs and such, which will mean the kids will have no money to buy music.

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    1. Re:children to enjoy music responsibly! by Chaotic+Spyder · · Score: 1

      Because the jump from not being able to download free music to shooting heroin is so close. COMMON...

      I thought that the common assumption was all kids who listen to music already do drugs.

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    2. Re:children to enjoy music responsibly! by MvD_Moscow · · Score: 1
      The kids have already turned to drugs, your reasoing is flawed! When was the last time you were in a school?

      That aside, what makes you think drugs are inherintly evil? I mean if the governemnt OKs some mild drugs alcohol), why can't that be applies to other mild drugs? And generally, drop the "drugs are the root of all evil" BS, it won't stop people from doing (both mild and hard) drugs.

  31. oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    damnit!

  32. first plost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    flist post

  33. what about the copies I make for fair use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does it distinguish between the copies on my computer that I made for fair use (so I can put them on a CD-R or my Ipod)? Can it distinguish media that has been renamed or has been coded using using Ogg or other means? Does this build a "model" of the audio and use something like HMM or GMM to determine if an audio cut matches a reference?

  34. Frist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Frist! Oh wait - wrong forum.

  35. Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and thats all i have to say about that...

  36. Old by someguy456 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This has been "out there" for a few days now. The important thing to remember if you didn't even read the blurb is that it is %100 voluntary! You have to go and download this program intentionally in order for it to delete your files

    1. Re:Old by JhohannaVH · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but for how long?? Any bets on how long it will take MS to roll this (or something like it) into the Windows Updates downloads? Or worse, the iggits over at *AA.boofoo.inc hire virus creators to throw it out there in the wild so it gets propogated to every PC?

      I just hope the damn thing breaks everything. :P

      Jho

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    2. Re:Old by Wardish · · Score: 1

      I believe most cases of fraud and misrepresentation are 100% voluntary...

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  37. Yeah, it could work. by BandwidthHog · · Score: 2, Funny

    If by “software” you mean “MP3 files” and by “release” you mean “upload to a web server,” then yes, that might just work.

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  38. Works fine for me by tradjik · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't see the big issue, I'm running it right now and it ru........... -signal terminated-

  39. We know what's best for you! by Blindman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I understand this correctly, they are freely providing software that will go through your system and make modification that the software's author thinks are best for the author. Isn't that called a trojan horse program?

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    1. Re:We know what's best for you! by Hex4def6 · · Score: 1

      No.

      A trojan horse is a program that mascarades as another (or inside), innocent program. Your definition would include basically any software program -- "Hello, World!" in displaying its line of text "modifies the system" into displaying the text, for example.

      This program is very explicit in the changes it makes -- you have to manually select "delete" for the P2P and music files.

  40. Heh... by tktk · · Score: 4, Funny
    Damn, no Linux or Mac OS X version once again. I want to complain...

    Oh wait...nevermind, carry on.

    1. Re:Heh... by PseudoQuant · · Score: 1

      Now, we need to understand that deleting illegal music on your computer is an extra privilege. If you are a Linux or Mac user, you should consider purchasing a regular Windows computer.

    2. Re:Heh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, no Linux or Mac OS X version once again. I want to complain...

      Here:

      find / -name \*mp3 -exec rm -f {} \;

      does just that.

    3. Re:Heh... by twitter · · Score: 1
      No torrent either. I'm sure the Slashdotting will melt their severs as one or two users try to download the program.

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  41. Oh I can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until this is modified by some "unknown" (wink wink) third party to become a virus

  42. Removes illegal songs and movies by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 1

    From TFA " The software, available for download, will also search computers for music and movies and remove any illegal copies, the group said." So how does it know the copies of songs/movies on a computer are "illegal"?. And, not having seen the EULA, I bet there's a clause absolving them from any damages that result from the program's use.

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  43. Can anyone say... by Sloshua · · Score: 1

    grasping at straws?

  44. FUCK YAH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GOD I wanted to install something like this SO BAD!

    Where can I immediately download this?!? I WANT IT NOW!

  45. Last time I checked by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Interesting

    it was highly illegal to destroy or alter a consumer's legally purchased or used software without a warrant. And Open Source software is legally purchased pursuant to it's license requirements.

    Not only that, but the new anti-spyware law says software which harms or damages a computer is illegal as well ...

    Or did I miss something and we live in Red Russia now under Comrade Bush?

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    1. Re:Last time I checked by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Calm down there, guy. The reds aren't taking over. No need to drive up into the hills of Colorado. This is software you can elect to download and run yourself. It's not something they're running remotely targeting unsuspecting users. Personally, I think it's a good idea for those who aren't so computer literate but have kids who are.

    2. Re:Last time I checked by Travelsonic · · Score: 1
      [blockquote]Calm down there, guy. The reds aren't taking over. No need to drive up into the hills of Colorado. This is software you can elect to download and run yourself. It's not something they're running remotely targeting unsuspecting users.[/blockquote]

      If the program does not distinguish betweeen legal and illegal files, then it doesn't matter whether or not it is optional to run, the program is being shoved around as a tool to (allegedly) take off illegal files, but we don't know if they can even distingusih between fair use backups and pirated files, and this doesn't at all concern you?


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    3. Re:Last time I checked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brilliant - have the ignorant supervising the proficient! I believe there's an I Ching hexagram describing just that!

    4. Re:Last time I checked by hurfy · · Score: 1

      If the parents are not as computer literate how on earth are they gonna know what to do with a list of 'suspicious' files?

      The program doesn't seem to care if they are bought tracks, ripped from your CDs, or even part of another program. That is left upto the parents in your case. You gonna let one of them decide what files to delete as a test?

      From the responses here and elsewhere, it simply lists all media after deleting P2P apps.

    5. Re:Last time I checked by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      It concerns me that legal files might be accidentally removed. Like any program that removes files, changes registry values, etc, it's a good idea to get some reviews of the product to make sure it works before blindly installing and using it. This idea is pretty new. It might take a while for a product to come along that does a good job. Ideally, I'd like to see something that lists the files and gives you an easy way to preview and delete the files. As a parent, I could see the value of that. It would give me the chance to ask my kid about each file before deleting.

    6. Re:Last time I checked by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "From the responses here and elsewhere, it simply lists all media after deleting P2P apps."

      That would be ideal. God forbid the parent would talk to the child about the list returned. If I were to see something like "Buffy Season 2 Episode 1.avi" and my kid can't come up with a reasonable explanation of how it got to be on our computer in a legal manner, I'm going to delete it.

  46. Bugs by McLetter · · Score: 0

    It seems like all that any of this software will do is simply delay the deistribution of pirated software. People will always find a way around it..

  47. A rose by any other name... by Wubby · · Score: 1

    I think people in the IT industry have a name for this sort of software: Virus

    I know, I know: modded troll, modded flamebait

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  48. Does it run on OSX or Linux ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    And no I will not rtfa because...well I don't know why.

    I also have one other simple question: If this is (I am assuming) a Windows program, whats so hard about going to control panel and clicking on that Add/Remove Programs Icon? I know if your super lazy it must be a huge task, but shit this program just seems like its made for total idiots, and my other assumption is that it was written by idiots.

    Then again, not everyone can get a BSD Gangster like me :)

    1. Re:Does it run on OSX or Linux ;) by phxbadash · · Score: 1

      You're talking about the average windows user...so yeah it is written for total idiots.

  49. Not all bad by Belseth · · Score: 1

    For a small company like ours it's not nessaccarilly a bad thing. I'd rather use a passive system to stop people from downloading at work that using more invasive methods. It's strictly a productivity issue. Bandwidth and hard drive space are a limited commodity and most important of all is their time spent doing it. Whatever they do at home is fine but at work it'd be nice to have them work. It's either big brother software to prevent it or looking over their shoulder which I don't personally like. I can set the policy but some will ignore it when every machine is tied to a high speed line. If you want downloaded music at work it's called a CD player or Ipod.

    1. Re:Not all bad by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      I was actually thinking along these same lines. Assuming that the program does nothing more than uninstall P2P apps, and flag media files as needing to be looked at, it might be nice to have it run periodically on all the machines I have to take care of. Better yet would be if it was something I could have run in the background on startup and/or a schedule and send a report of what it finds on machines, preferrably via email. I could then keep the machines a bit cleaner.
      That said, the other option for getting rid a some of the P2P problems, in a work environment, is to lock the router down. Close all ports except those needed for web and ftp. Of course, some P2P apps will operate through port 80, so you'd have to monitor traffic as well. Though, this should cut down quite a bit on the problems.
      The downside to this program is, of course, I really have no clue what it's going to do on a system. For all I know it could be a malicious trojan which will blow up a system. Sure, they say that it doesn't report back or do anything nasty, but I see no reason to belive them. Afterall, this is the same group that wanted a law absolving them of all responsibility for trashing a system they thought might have illegaly copied files on it. Though, when I get some time, I may actually download this and run it in a test environment and see what it tries to do.

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  50. And? by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This software seems unobjectionable. Any software designed to heighten awareness of what is happening on one's computer seems worthy of praise.

  51. 20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by mindaktiviti · · Score: 1

    That kid has some serious allowance!

    1. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by courtrrb · · Score: 1

      I've placed my entire cd collection on my pc. a whole 28 gigs of mp3's. Every time we buy another it get ripped and placed on the system, a new is burnt and that is waht is used. This way if the copy gets too scratched up or melts in the car I can burn a new copy without having to buy it. When working around the house I can play music all day long with out ever hearing the sam song twice and no disk to switch.

    2. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Average CD = 500-700 Megs. 20 gigs = 40 CDs. Assuming high quality, of course.

    3. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20Gig = 4000 mp3s. 4000 mp3s = 300 - 400 CDs. Assuming high quality, of course.

    4. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh.. I have 300+ CDs and I rip all of them to MP3s and never use the CDs ever again. Yeah, I'd be pissed if they were all gone one day.

    5. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Of course, we all back up our CDs to flac. Why you would back up your CDs to a lossy format is beyond me. Once you do that, if The cd gets damage, you can never get the original back again.

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    6. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by sobachatina · · Score: 1

      Or a job.

    7. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      It could be he just has one long song that has been ripped with a pretty high bitrate. Like SUPER BIG bitrate. ;)

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    8. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Braxton_the_Covenant · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I gotta admit, /. sway me to this perspective. Lossless is the most prudent way to rip audio CDs, so you can have archival quality backups on your drive. Even if takes up a fair amount of space. And even if I can't tell the difference between an original WAV/FLAC and a lossless MP3/AAC/Vorbis.

      Data storage capicity will continue to increase in the next decade, while your FLAC rip of an album will continue to remain a lowly 350MB. And you could always buy higher-fidelity equipment (if that gets cheaper too one day) and potentially be able to tell the difference between a FLAC original and a a.p.m. LAME file that you can't do now with your crummy headphones or cheap Labtec PC speakers.

      Actually I am being more autobiographical than informative, I fear.

    9. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily.
      In germany, it's perfectly legal to make private copies of any non-copyprotected CD in your possession (you don't have to own it - borrowing from a friend is enough). I don't do this excessively, but I already accumulated ~5gig of music that way.

    10. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1

      A Change Of Seasons?

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    11. Re:20GB of CDs ripped to mp3? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Actually, I was being serious. I back up all my stuff to flac. Hard drives are cheap enough now, that the space difference between archival quality MP3 and flac isn't really that different. I completely understand people who download music, but if you're backing up albums you paid 20$ for, then lossless really is the only way to go.

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  52. Waste of bytes, apparently by Sheridan · · Score: 1

    The Register had this yesterday. The reader followups in their postbag indicate that it is less than intelligent in its search, missing large folders of downloaded mp3s and misidentifying legal downloads as dodgy just because they have no DRM.

  53. Here's a Linux and OS X version for you buggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    riaa.sh:
    #!/bin/sh
    rm *.mp3 *.avi *.mpg

    1. Re:Here's a Linux and OS X version for you buggers by linuxinit · · Score: 2, Funny

      But it's not recursive!!! :P riaa.sh: #!/bin/sh cd / rm -R *.mp3 *.mp4 *.ogg *.avi *.mpg *.mpeg *.mov

  54. who will use this ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    since we all know how ridiculous it is, i wonder who is going to use such a program ?

    schools ?
    public libraries ?
    cs kiddies mothers ?

    no really. the riaa has thrown some effort into this project, but what else is it than just plain stupid ?

  55. critical question by doktorstop · · Score: 1

    Will there be a Linux/FreeBSD version?

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  56. voluntary virus by digitalderbs · · Score: 1

    sounds like a voluntarily installed virus. I wonder how it detects copyright infringed media files...

    Searching movies :
    filename : "PhD Dissertation 20050827 : Mating habits of the male spider.pdf" => "Spiderman : The Movie" detected. File deleted.

  57. How the hell ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is this software supposed to know if an MP3 or OGG file is "legal"?
    Is it somehow magically able to scan my physical CD collection?

    I wouldn't be surprised if it just deleted every music file on the system it gets run on.

  58. Step 2? by linuxinit · · Score: 1

    Step 1: Find illegal files.
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Profit!

    "Time to go to work, work all night
    search for mp3s hey!
    We won't stop until we have mp3s
    Yum tum yummy tum day!"

    /Underpants Gnome Spoof

  59. Torrent??? by centinall · · Score: 1

    anyone have the torrent? I guess updates won't be available in torrent form since it will have removed all bittorrent clients on the everyone's computer.

  60. their new jingle by Gridpoet · · Score: 1

    *great 50's tune playing in the background*
    *sings*
    those crazy kids are at it again
    RIAA wil cleanse your sin
    download our crap and run it fast
    or we'll sue your ass into the past!

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  61. WTF?! by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 1

    . . . encourage their children to enjoy music responsibly on the Internet

    "What are you doing, Dad?"
    "I'm teaching you how to enjoy your music responsibly."
    "What?"
    "Well actually son, I don't really care about how responsible you are or your music. I'm just making sure I don't get sued by the RIAA."

  62. Linux version by jandrese · · Score: 1

    Just so you don't feel left out, here's the Linux version:

    find . \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -delete

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    1. Re:Linux version by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

      Doh, I was in too much of a rush to comment. The correct version:
      #!/bin/sh

      find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -delete

      I'm sure it will be mandatory under some new copyright law in a couple of years.

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    2. Re: Linux version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what license are you releasing this legal compliance software of the future under? ;^)

    3. Re:Linux version by BioCS.Nerd · · Score: 1

      Well, if it turns out mandatory, do you mind putting some sort of patent or copy protection on that and then sitting on the patent until it runs out to buy us some time?

    4. Re:Linux version by molarmass192 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget to add the following:

      ln -s "drm for the masses script" /etc/init.d/rc3.d/S20DeleteThisScriptAndGoToJail

      to keep yourself in compliance at each and every startup and shutdown ... happy happy joy joy!!! I don't pirate music, they can go after the people who share illegal tunes all they want, but don't ever point a finger at me unless you know I'm doing something wrong, anything else is an insult.

      If they spent half the effort signing and encouraging artists with talent that they do trying to prevent people from putting songs on their iPods, they might actually be able to address the root cause of their falling sales. I hardly buy any new music because every friggen tune sounds the same and they're dull as hell. The few albums I do buy are pretty much all on Nettwerk since they don't focus on the same vanilla pudding crap the other majors put out ... and ... get this ... they don't shovel DRM ... they actually sell MP3s.

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    5. Re:Linux version by yellowstone · · Score: 1
      find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -delete
      Whew. I guess all my *.shn , *.flac , and *.ape files are safe!
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    6. Re:Linux version by layer3switch · · Score: 1

      find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -delete

      ===================
      find: invalid predicate `-delete'
      ===================

      Here is better way to do it;

      #-----# Begining of RIAA Script
      #!/bin/bash

      for illegal in `find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \)`;
      do
            echo "RIAA owns you."
            echo "$illegal - hmm is that legal or illegal?"
            echo "Better safe than sorry"
            echo "Deleting... $illegal"
            rm -f $illegal
      done

      echo "Now deleting your hard drive..."
      echo "Deleting / partition..."
      echo "..."
      sleep 5
      echo
      echo "Ha Ha! Just kidding! RIAA so owns you, sucker!"
      #-----# End of RIAA Script

      Of course, you can accomplish the same thing with this one liner...

      find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -exec rm -f '{}' ';'

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    7. Re:Linux version by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

      don't forget the Stichting Brein (Dutch riaa/mpaa) program which deleted also .ZIP files!!! Stupidity at large...

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    8. Re:Linux version by jandrese · · Score: 1

      You need a better find(1).

      -delete
      Delete found files and/or directories. Always returns true.
      This executes from the current working directory as find recurses
      down the tree. It will not attempt to delete a filename with a
      ``/'' character in its pathname relative to ``.'' for security
      reasons. Depth-first traversal processing is implied by this
      option.

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  63. Virus by ValiantSoul · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for news saying they have now created a virus based on it and any website that loads its ad will download the virus or something. Oh well - I love my (obviously virus free) Mac!

  64. Am I the only one...... by Rank_Tyro · · Score: 1

    That misread "International Federation of the PHONOGRAPHIC Industry" as Pr0nograhic???

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  65. Security question by DJayC · · Score: 1

    Anyone else find it funny that if you watch the demo on their website, during installation the software the default security question is: "What's your favorite movie?"

    Aint nothing like giving the program a head start ;-)

  66. IT'S A TRICK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't download their program! The recording industry has made it very clear that we may not download anything that belongs to them. I, for one, will abide by their wishes.

  67. Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With things like this is makes me want to run to my local record store and purchase several CD's.... oh, wait.... it's the same bastards, nevermind - I'll keep my money

    It's crap like this that makes me NOT want to support ANY company, all leaches!

  68. Not privileged by centinall · · Score: 1

    non-windows users aren't privileged to use this software.

    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/23/15 13203&tid=141&tid=158&tid=3&tid=106

  69. Could Be A Winner by blueZhift · · Score: 1

    This could actually be a winning strategy if RIAA decided to jump right in a create a complete Digital Parenting Companion. This package would do it all, detect and remove spyware, "illegal" digital downloads, and porn. It would also include a virus scanner and firewall with an easy to use interface with lots of instructional video clips. They could also package a fun to view DVD with shows aimed and younger kids teaching them the evils of illegal media downloads. Heck, maybe RIAA should buy AOL before Mr. Gates gets his hands on it! A soft sell approach might well pay some big dividends for RIAA as they educate the public and direct them to legal sources of digital media complete with that oh so tasty DRM that everyone's talkin' about!

  70. What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if one day this kind of software will be enbedded in major operating systems and run ar every boot? It will happen.

    I release my music for free (cc licence) on my website.

    How can such software judge if a track downloaded from my site is legal? Can be made by confronting tags and an encrypted signature against a db.

    What if I can't afford to be included in this db? What if my file doesn't have this signature? It is a mp3 so it should be deleted! There are plenty of ways to copy music in the digital realm. So such software must deleted any unrecognized or untrusted file.

    1. Re:What if... by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Bah! You're not a member of a major media conglomerate, therefore any music you make is, by default, illegal and should be deleted. How dare you even consider doing something which isn't mandated by the great and wonderful RIAA.

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  71. Polish computer virus by DaoudaW · · Score: 4, Funny

    This reminds me of the Polish computer virus.

    1. Re:Polish computer virus by tomcio.s · · Score: 1

      Damn, never seen this one before.

      - Polish programmer

    2. Re:Polish computer virus by falcon5768 · · Score: 1
      I have, but it was 2 years ago and called a "mexican computer virus"

      it was also much longer and funnier and in general better done. Ill have to see if i can find it.

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    3. Re:Polish computer virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember to forward the virus before deleting all your files. I learned that the hard way...

  72. This software is AWESOME!! by brxndxn · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just ran it and it deleted all of the crappy music I never listen to any more!

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  73. They are virus writers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean really! What is the difference between them an a virus writer who destroys YOUR DATA. These people should be punished to the greatest extent of the law for doing this. They are out of control!!!

  74. will someone try it out and report? by Surt · · Score: 1

    What all does it delete for you? Do you get a chance to change your mind about deleting things?
    Anyone willing to trust it on your system?
    Does it work on linux? Wine?

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  75. Save yourselves the download... by PincheGab · · Score: 1

    It's prolly just a batch file whose contents are these: @del /s C:\*.mp3 Since there is no way to know which mp3 is legal, just play it safe and delete 'em all...

  76. Symantec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will Symantec have release for this virus that delete's my files?

  77. Well Okeedokee then by rtkluttz · · Score: 1

    Ok Brainiacs at the RIAA... Your software must be really intelligent to figure out that just because a file is in MP3 format and its content is a copyrighted song that it was created illegally. It must somehow figure out that the user of the computer created it himself from his legally purchased CD.

    What???!!!??? It doesn't care? OHHHHH.. I see.. if it doesn't contain your DRM you AUTOMATICALLY classify it as illegal?

    Thats BRILLIANT!!!!!

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  78. torrent? by j0nb0y · · Score: 1

    Anybody got a torrent for the software?

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  79. Encouragement by zecg · · Score: 1

    So, you encourage your children to behave responsibly by installing a piece of software behind their back to mess up their data. Oh, and I can see numerous uses in business environment for software which deletes shit according to some magic algorithm - sure, what can go wrong? Run it on the company intranet!

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  80. I don't see a list of what it deletes by jpowers · · Score: 1

    I went through the flash tutorial, eDonkey and Limewire were in there, but not BT? Also it doesn't say how it determines which mp3s or mpeg movies to delete.

    Near as I can tell it just nukes the ones that anti-spyware programs would disable anyway.

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    -jpowers
    1. Re:I don't see a list of what it deletes by Junior+Samples · · Score: 1

      I didn't see any News Readers or IRC clients either.

  81. In a similar story... by Tachikoma · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is releasing software that detects and deletes anything open-source. This is for concerned parents who fear their children might be experimenting in the dangers of open source and / or anything not tainted by Microsoft.

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    i don't care
    1. Re:In a similar story... by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know where this myth that MS is against open source software came from. They've got no beef with OSS at all, and have even released open source software of their own (they have a project on sauceforge, but I can't remember the name of it).

      What they'd be looking for, obviously, is GNU software, which is often used by hackers and terrorists; not to mention which has an anti-capitalist agenda.

      I'm sure it would leave any BSD licensed software alone, however. ;-)

      (crap, better post this AC)

  82. Do they pay for bandwidth? by hackstraw · · Score: 1


    Hmm???

    http://www.ifpi.org/dfc/downloads/setup.msi

    The above link is the direct download of said software. I guess its for some kind of computer besides a Mac, Linux, or Solaris. It does not run on those. Oh well.

  83. Re:Yeah right...Betting Odds by jimbro2k · · Score: 1

    I just wish some bookie would offer odds that they are telling the truth. What a gold mine this could be.

    Or at least offer odds as to how long it will take to diagnose the program and uncover the truth.

    And what does "..for private use only." mean?

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  84. I can't download this. by The+Bod · · Score: 1

    I followed the link using firefox on Linux and all I get is some broken plugin page. Can someone set up a bittorrent for this?

    1. Re:I can't download this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it downloaded fine for me. but it won't run. crap, linux users are always missing out on the best software :-(


      ./Desktop/setup.msi
      -bash: ./Desktop/setup.msi: cannot execute binary file

  85. From the tutorial video: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...nearly all file-sharing activity is illegal..." and "Find out what files are in your "shared folders" - these are likely to be illegal files." These people are utterly clueless. Seems as though they are unable to bully the kids into submission, so now they are attempting to take advantage of parents' lack of knowledge. Assuming the stereo-typical teen file-sharer/ignorant parent scenario, of course. You can always count on the record labels when low on your USRDA of FUD.

  86. Wrong program guys... by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 1

    Just tried it... just for the sake of it... and it removed my paid-for copy of LimeWire. It also uninstalled my BitTorrent client. I must be missing something here. I understand if it wants to remove softwares that are used solely for illegal purposes, but removing paid-for software or software that has legitimate uses, such as BitTorrent?

  87. I don't suppose..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't suppose any of you have considered they might actually be checking file signatures + sizes + file extensions to see if they are deleting KNOWN pirated copies of the content?

    Nah, this is Slashdot.

    Burn the Witch!!!!

  88. Where is the rpm? by olddoc · · Score: 1

    Darn! Not available for Linux.
    Will it be in the next OpenBSD release? They are all about security.

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  89. Does it send any data back to them? by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone checked to see if this program sends and data back to remote servers possibly operated by the media cartel? Could it report back any potentially copyright-violating files that have been found, along with other information (ie. perhaps copies of documents, images, spreadsheets, etc.) that may contain identifying information? A trojan of sorts, one might say.

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  90. Sounds like a worm. by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

    So, this program roots through your computer killing any p2p app and any music files it finds. They say it will only kill "illegal" ones, but I bet it presumes them all illegal. That sounds like a worm to me. It seems like a watered down version of Senator Orrin Hatch's idea to destroy file traders' computers.

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  91. I still don't trust (for the bazillionth time) by yagu · · Score: 1

    Great, a new acronym to learn and hate! (I hadn't been familiar with IFPI until a couple of articles today... for those curious, it is International Federation of Phonographic Industry which is ironic.)

    Anyway, the assurance is that it removes only file sharing software. That in and of itself is questionable policy both in technical feasibility (as in guranteed not to do damage) and in philosophical sanity.

    Next the assurance is no information will be uploaded or provided to any anti-piracy organizations. Really? This from a demographic willing to intimidate twelve year old girls with a team of high octane lawyers in legal torts? Trust us this time. I don't think so.

    It strikes me as interesting that the technology has come around to start eating its own ass. Technology became good enough and inexpensive enough I saw it being used to track consumers' tastes and buying habits permitting targetted and efficient marketing. Now it appears to be fast, good, and inexpensive enough to be used to snoop on consumers and make sure they "don't have things they're not supposed to have". It's retarded, but it's what they're doing. (Yeah, I know there's the notion of the illegality of sharing things like mp3's, etc., in it's purest analysis, but before technology illegal "ownership" existed too. The difference as I see it is the modern-day "pilfering" spawns more sales rather than subtracts from. Whether or not I see that as rationalizing technically-illegal behavior is mostly moot, since the entertaninment industry claims they're doing this to stop hemhorraging sales.)

  92. RIAA Backdoor by Mage99 · · Score: 1

    Right, sure sure here let me scan all my systems and send the list of the unresponsible items I have on it. It is so predictable, "well of course they agreed to install it and turned on autoupdate and the software just tracks ip usage, user location etc." data which most likely makes any user a prime candidate for scanning, searching for violations etc. What's in the future? More suits against 12 year old girls using file sharing software to get copies of Brittany Spears latest, yup definetly going after the worst of the worst.

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  93. Covering up Crimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the bright side they are justifying the covering up of crimes/civic violations.

    "Its ok if you take drugs kids as long as your destroy the evidence afterwards."

    So it may not be an exact analogy, but that sure as hell isn't going to stop me from using it.

  94. The Big ? by patman814u · · Score: 0

    Is it illegal to share a program that removes FileSharing programs? Well, it looks like the time has finally come for me to write that magical software which ADDS rainbow sprinkled DRM to all of my mpFrees and movies.

  95. I will Pay 1000.00$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to the first person who hacks this software, installes a trojen that destroys any computer it runs on and wipes the servers that the sofware is deployed on .

  96. Back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when hard drives were 6.4 GB and considered huge I would burn my mp3's on CD (at five bucks a pop). How, will this program delete those - pre p2p mp3's?

    Hmmm

  97. I know how it works... by Godai · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...it must make use of the widely adopted RFC 7812, i.e. the Illegal Flag. This popular RFC was derived off of RFC 3514, known to many as the Evil Bit. Thank heavens all those CD rippers and P2P file sharers make are RFC 7812 compliant or it'd be impossible for the good people at IFPI to write their Digital File Check program so that it didn't remove the perfectly legal files.

    What an age we live in!

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  98. BOOT by quibbs0 · · Score: 1

    It's telling me my "boot.ini" needs to be deleted. That's safe enough I guess...I didn't really like that band Boot anyways.

  99. Is this a joke? by Recovering+Hater · · Score: 1

    This is so funny I forgot to laugh. I suppose this is software for the families that use the V chip on their tv sets.

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  100. Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 3, Insightful


    This is trolling but I can't wait for the day when they declare: Your freedom is a privilege, not a right!!!

    1. Re:Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by moxley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If only it were trolling...

      The thing is - they pretty much are saying that and you barely have to read between the lines to see it - those lines are getting further apart by the second.

      What really gets me is all the people who roll over say "Well, they know what's best."

      (They: choose Govt or Media or Corporate authority of your choice)

    2. Re:Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by eosp · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you noticed that whenever people say "this is trolling" or "I know I'll be modded down, but..." they never actually get modded down?

    3. Re:Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory Zero Wing Reference (reason I'm posting AC, feel free to mod down)

      All your freedom are belonging to us.

    4. Re:Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by all+your+mwbassguy+a · · Score: 1

      i know ill get modded down for this, but the GNAA pwns j00?

      nope, got modded down.

    5. Re:Freedom: 27 - Liberty: 15 by Tycho · · Score: 1

      I think it is because they aren't really trolling and they know they won't be modded down for what they say because it really is funny, insightful, or informative.

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  101. I'm sorry RIAA but.... by wobedraggled · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you FUCKING nuts?

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  102. So let me get this straight.... by mhollis · · Score: 1

    They want me to download a worm so that it can delete all software and maybe some other files that they think I should not have on my computer.

    Hmm, I'll bet women would be interested in a similar program that searches out and deletes all p0rn on the computers of their boyfriends/husbands along with any programs used to get it.

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  103. Dearest Ignorant Masses, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are so very unhappy today. But tomorrow could bring us that missing joy! Please begin installing this software to delete your software. We don't especially like the software you have and would enjoy it very much if you would begin using our own instead. We promise that it will not tell us exactly what you _had_ installed. But if you do have our software installed, and running at all times, then we might be less inclined to KILL YOU AND EVERYONE YOU LOVE.

    Thanks,
    Your friends in Greedyville.

  104. I have over 200 potentially illegal files... by bhalter80 · · Score: 1

    ...on my thunb drive. Seriously though this is nothing different that running the Windows search for all *.jpg *.gif *.mp3 *.wav etc... If they really wanted to be helpful (in a very perverse way) They would collect SHA1 figner prints from P2P and compare the files against those but I guess that would be more work for the same headline. As far as removing P2P sharing programs I'm reminded of the scene in Casablanca where Captain Reno is collecting on his winnings and closing down Rick's place at the same time. Wouldn't anyone who had P2P be aware of it and want to keep it? How many self installing P2P apps are out there?

  105. Viral Distribution by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Expect them to distribute this using the new 'viral model'.

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  106. I need to get a copy by HalfBakedPotatoChip · · Score: 1

    I need to get me one of those fileshare-deletor progz! Maybe I can download it off Kazaa...

  107. I deem this "cockware". by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    I think a new term is needed to describe software like this. It lacks the overt commercial aspect of traditional spyware, in that its sole purpose isn't to blast the infect system with advertisements or to collect marketing data. This software has far more of a legality aspect to it. As such, I propose the term "cockware".

    I derive the name from the fact that these companies crow loudly like the morning cock, in their case trying to awake people to the presence of media files (rather than the dawn sun). It is nothing but a complete nuisance, and best to be ignored.

    Oh, and this is the type of software that can really fuck you up the ass (ala a male penis "cock").

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  108. Useful Tool? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it also has a tabbed view of all media files found on your computer and allows you to manually check and delete the found files

    Cool! I've been looking for a tool to make it easier to find and delete duplicate media files. Does it tell you the encoding rate, too?

  109. Windows only. Oh, what a surprise. by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess I have nothing to worry about.

  110. Check Windows pirated copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will somebody develop a program that checks if your version of Win XP is original and if not erase the entire hard drive?

    I can't wait to check it out...

  111. EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LICENCE AGREEMENT
    for the use of Digital File Check

    NOTE: Digital File Check (the 'Software') is provided by IFPI, its national groups and its suppliers to you under licence. Please read these licence terms and conditions carefully before using the Software. Use the Software only if you accept all licence terms and conditions.

    A. ABOUT DIGITAL FILE CHECK

    The Software is offered to help you search your computer for peer-to-peer 'file-sharing' software, and gives an overview of the media files shared or stored on your computer. The software gives you the option to remove such programs or files.

    1. The Software searches for the most popular peer-to-peer 'file-sharing' programs. However, there is no guarantee that the Software will necessarily find all file-sharing programs, as programs of this type that are lesser known or later developed may have been installed on your computer, or the programs may have been hidden in some way.

    2. The Software also searches for files in the most popular music, film and image formats. However there is no guarantee that the Software will necessarily find all such media files, as the files may be stored in other formats, or renamed or hidden on your computer in a way that the Software might not find.

    3. The Software indicates which files are in the 'shared folders' used by file-sharing software. Files in these folders typically are made available for transmission and copying to others on the internet. PLEASE NOTE: It is illegal to make music, film or other copyrighted files available on the internet without permission.

    4. The software makes an inventory of music, video and image files found elsewhere on your computer. You must determine yourself whether those files were acquired legally or illegally. The Software does not verify or report the source of files found. You may need to clarify this by discussing it with the persons who downloaded or otherwise installed the files.

    5. You are responsible for anything illegal taking place or stored on your computer. Using the Software can provide you with an overview of how your computer is being using, but this does not imply any exemption or liability on your part. The Software does not transmit any information about you, your computer, or its contents to anyone.

    B. WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE SOFTWARE

    1. You are granted a non-exclusive, limited, royalty-free licence to download, install and use the Software on one or more personal computers under the terms and conditions of this licence.

    2. You may use the Software only for your own non-commercial and personal purposes. This Software is not authorised for sale, distribution or other use for direct or indirect economic gain. Any commercial use must be licensed separately.

    3. All other uses are prohibited. You are not authorised, and the copyright law otherwise does not permit, any other reproduction of the Software, or any modification, adaptation, translation, creation of derivative works, incorporation with other programs, sale, rental, redistribution, communication, or making available to third parties, of the Software.

    4. This Software is protected by copyright. The Software is protected by national and international copyright and other intellectual-property laws, and any unauthorised use may violate such laws. Your rights to use the Software are set out in this licence. The Software remains the property of JSA Software ApS. No sale or other transfer of ownership takes place, and no express or implied rights or licences are granted with respect to the Software under any copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other intellectual-property right except as specifically provided in this licence.

    C. WARRANTIES AND DISCLAIMERS

    1. IFPI's suppliers have developed the Software solely to perform the limited functions described in this licence under these terms of use. IFPI, its national groups and its suppliers do not make any other wa

  112. Not really by temojen · · Score: 1

    They openly tell you what it does. The trojan horse (the original) wasn't draped in a banner saying "50 hoplites inside who will wait until you fall asleep then open the city gates".

  113. How to distribute?!? by jlk_71 · · Score: 1

    So, do you think they will make an attempt to put this software onto the P2P network(s) for distribution?

    jlk

    1. Re:How to distribute?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er...
      How do you spell, "Duh!"?

  114. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this-missing the concept by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    I have legally ripped

    You fail to understand the concept here. There is no such thing as legally ripped. Got it?

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  115. does not tip off.... by sjs132 · · Score: 1

    It is free, voluntary and for private use only and does not tip off any antipiracy organizations."

    YET...

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  116. Here's the source code... by scovetta · · Score: 3, Funny

    // this code is protected by the dmca
    // by reading this, you are in violation
    // please report yourself at dmca@riaa.org

    if (os == windows) {
        format c:
    } else {
        cd /
        rm -rf *
    }

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    Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. --Nietzsche
  117. /usr/bin/strings to the rescue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LICENCE AGREEMENT\par
    \pard\b0 for the use of Digital File Check\par
    \pard\keepn\s1\b\par
    \pard\b0\i0\par
    NOTE:\b Digital File Check\b0 (the \lquote Software\rquote ) is provided by IFPI, its national groups and its suppliers to you under licence. Please read these licence terms and conditions carefully before using the Software. Use the Software only if you accept all licence terms and conditions.\b\par
    \par
    A. ABOUT DIGITAL FILE CHECK\par
    \par
    The Software is offered to help you search your computer for peer-to-peer \lquote file-sharing\rquote software, and gives an overview of the media files shared or stored on your computer.\b0 The software gives you the option to remove such programs or files. \par
    \par
    \pard\fi-360\li720\tx720\tx720\b 1.\tab The Software searches for the most popular peer-to-peer \lquote file-sharing\rquote programs.\b0 However, there is no guarantee that the Software will necessarily find all file-sharing programs, as programs of this type that are lesser known or later developed may have been installed on your computer, or the programs may have been hidden in some way.\par
    \pard\par
    \pard\fi-360\li720\tx720\tx72 0\b 2.\tab The Software also searches for files in the most popular music, film and image formats. \b0 However there is no guarantee that the Software will necessarily find all such media files, as the files may be stored in other formats, or renamed or hidden on your computer in a way that the Software might not find.\par
    \pard\keepn\s2\tx360\b\par
    \pard\keepn \s2\fi-360\li720\tx360\tx720\tx360\tx720 3.\tab The Software indicates which files are in the \lquote shared folders\rquote used by file-sharing software. \b0 Files in these folders typically are made available for transmission and copying to others on the internet. PLEASE NOTE: It is illegal to make music, film or other copyrighted files available on the internet without permission. \par
    \pard\keepn\s2\tx360\par
    \pard\keepn\s2\fi- 360\li720\tx360\tx720\tx360\tx720\b 4.\tab The software makes an inventory of music, video and image files found elsewhere on your computer. You must determine yourself whether those files were acquired legally or illegally\b0 . The Software does not verify or report the source of files found. You may need to clarify this by discussing it with the persons who downloaded or otherwise installed the files. \par
    \pard\keepn\s2\tx360\par
    \pard\keepn\s2\fi- 360\li720\tx360\tx720\tx360\tx720\b 5.\tab You are responsible for anything illegal taking place or stored on your computer. \b0 Using the Software can provide you with an overview of how your computer is being using, but this does not imply any exemption or liability on your part. The Software does not transmit any information about you, your computer, or its contents to anyone.\par
    \pard\li360\tx284\b\i\par
    \pard\fi-3 60\li360\tx360\i0 B. \tab WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE SOFTWARE\par
    \pard\tx450\b0\par
    \pard\fi-360\li6 44\tx284\tx644\tx284\tx644\b 1.\tab You are granted a non-exclusive, limited, royalty-free licence to download, install and use the Software on one or more personal computers under the terms and conditions of this licence. \par
    \pard\fi-450\li450\tx284\par
    \pard\fi-360\l i644\tx284\tx644\tx284\tx644 2.\tab You may use the Software only for your own non-commercial and personal purposes. \b0 This Software is not authorised for sale, distribution or other use for direct or indirect economic gain. Any commercial use must be licensed separately.\b\par
    \pard\tx450\par
    \pard\fi-360\l i644\tx284\tx644\tx284\tx644 3.\tab All other uses are prohibited. \b0 You are not authorised, and the copyright law otherwise does not permit, any other reproduction of the Softwa

    1. Re:/usr/bin/strings to the rescue by drakaan · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry, but I'm not even going to think about installing a piece of software where the people writing the license agreement can't even spell license right half the time.

      And then there's the fact that all it does is look for some known binaries, and A/V files in pupular formats. It removes "illegal" content from your computer the same way that a garbage disposal removes "unwanted" fingers from your hand.

      I guess it makes people feel better than telling them "Hey, delete all of your MP3's in the "Bearshare Downloads" directory, or else!"

      --
      "Murphy was an optimist" - O'Toole's commentary on Murphy's Law
  118. Not my type of program... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

    ...but I'm sure both of its users will like it.

  119. Re:Step 2! by hesiod · · Score: 1

    Step 2 is blackmail, of course!

  120. Pure crap by kinglink · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not only does it find SOME of my music I legally ripped (owning the CD) It only chose parts of those songs, it skips the ENTIRE japanese discographies (Katamari Damacy, second cd to full moon) but it also highlights some of the best of the best songs for Stepmania (not all the DDR songs I have but the "best") and all the mp3s for the VG mixes.

    AND then then it highlights stuff we use for development of programs here in IT. And then to really make it dangerous it Includes all the windows bitmaps and such.

    I can just see the phone calls now "you told me to use this to make sure Johnny wasn't pirating stuff, and now windows is crashing" "Umm Ma'am didn't you see the warning" "Yes but I was told to use this and now my computer doesn't work"

    IFPI bit in the ass by their own suggestion, coming in 12 hours and counting.

    1. Re:Pure crap by StarManta.Mini · · Score: 1

      And then to really make it dangerous it Includes all the windows bitmaps and such.

      Wow, that's impressively bad.

      Headaches for geeky relatives of any mother are going to increase tenfold.

  121. Some Numbers by databyss · · Score: 2, Informative

    I rip at 256 kbps cause that's how I am.

    256 kbps => 256/8 = 32 Bps.

    20GB ~ 20,000,000 Bytes => 20,000,000 / 32 = 625,000 seconds

    625,000 / 60 => 10,416.6 minutes

    Average CD = roughtly 55 minutes (my no calculation estimate)

    10,416.6 / 55 = 189.39 CD's

    That's not entirely impossible although it is huge for me, it's probably small for a DJ.

    Lets add some more fun:

    189.39 CD's * $15 a pop = $2,840.91

    That is a lot of loot.

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    Hmmm witty sig or funny sig? Maybe elitest techy sig!
    1. Re:Some Numbers by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      20GB ~ 20,000,000 Bytes

      Um, 20 GB is 20 BILLION not 20 Million bytes. You are off by a factor of 1000.

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    2. Re:Some Numbers by databyss · · Score: 1

      Wow, I was very dumb! I was thinking billion, but somehow I typed million and didn't even notice.

      I fix for you!

      256 kbps => 256/8 = 32 Bps.

      20GB ~ 20,000,000,000 Bytes => 20,000,000,000 / 32 = 625,000,000 seconds

      625,000,000 / 60 => 10,416.6 minutes

      Average CD = roughtly 55 minutes (my no-calculation estimate)

      10,416,666.6 / 55 = 189,393.93 CD's

      189,393.93 CD's * $15 a pop = $2,840,909.09

      That is a lot of loot.

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  122. P2P programs that remove this software. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Indeed, perhaps we will see future releases of P2P clients which remove this sort of software while being installed.

    --
    Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
    1. Re:P2P programs that remove this software. by UnixChild00 · · Score: 1

      There is something you can modify in the directory where it is installed to not make it detect anything, and no it's not the EXE's in that directory.

  123. Regular Basis by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    More like constantly, like antivirus.

    And if you turn it off, you get kicked off line. ( and are reported to the proper authorities )

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  124. Damn, Deleted iTunes by doublem · · Score: 4, Funny

    It deleted all the songs I bought through iTunes!

    And the sound files for my computer games!

    And all my digital photos!!

    WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Damn glad I have a backup on my Linux Box.

    Oh well, better uninstall this damn thing.

    Wait a second, why isn't there an entry for it in "Add / Remove Programs"?

    I guess I'll just delete the install fold--

    What do you mean "Access Denied"????? I logged into the frigging Administrator account to do this!

    Damn it, this Windows install is only six months old. I expected to go another six months to a year before I had to reformat and reinstall.

    --
    "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
    1. Re:Damn, Deleted iTunes by Braxton_the_Covenant · · Score: 1

      I had a problem like that once from some spyware on my computer. So I just bought a new computer, like any normal person would do.

    2. Re:Damn, Deleted iTunes by doublem · · Score: 1

      Good idea.

      I'll gladly take that old, spyware infected computer off your hands. I can, er, use it for parts. Yeah, that's it. Parts.

      --
      "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
  125. No automatic deletion, apparently by pjcreath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to the "help" section on the linked web site, it shows you a list of the files it found and lets you view/listen to them. Here's what it says about compiling the list:

    NOTE: Digital File Check will initially direct you to files in your 'shared folders'. The music, video and image files in these folders are likely to be illegal. When the programme scans for music, video, image and other files in other parts of your computer however, it does not distinguish between legal and illegal copies. It is up to the user to determine whether the files found by the programme were acquired legally, or if the material should be deleted.

    So Mom could still delete Junior's legal music if she's not careful. It depends on the default action.

    It's not clear to me whether the above means that it does somehow "distinguish between legal and illegal copies" in your "shared" folders (whatever that means), or if it simply presumes they're illegal. It's also unclear to me whether it presumes the other files are legal.

    1. Re:No automatic deletion, apparently by Braxton_the_Covenant · · Score: 2, Informative
      I wonder if there will be localized versions of this program for countries like Canada or France with private copying taxation schemes that allow you to legally copy music well beyond what one's fair use rights would normally be.

      But heck, I wonder if the US-localized build which will probably be the only build will even remember that the US already has somewhat similar private copying laws on the books.

      http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap10.html#100 8

  126. Software up to 100% wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the current "Letters" section on TheRegister - some users have tried it out, and this software is useless. In one extreme case it got 100% false positive and 0% true positive (IE it said all the legal MP3's the guy had were illegal, and didn't find any of his illegal MP3s).

    Here's a link.

  127. IIRC by hummassa · · Score: 1

    DVD-Jon works on Windows.

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    It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
    1. Re:IIRC by rovingeyes · · Score: 1

      D'oh!

  128. Not legal by doublem · · Score: 1

    Remember, as far as the RIAA is concerned, ripping your own CDs is illegal. Only pirates do it you know. You're not a pirate, are you?

    --
    "Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
    1. Re:Not legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, as far as the RIAA is concerned, ripping your own CDs is illegal. Only pirates do it you know. You're not a pirate, are you?

      Arrr matey, that I am!
      Does ye have a problem with that, ye lilly livered landlubber?

    2. Re:Not legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a pirate, but I only talk like it one day a year. What a glorious day monday was.

  129. how does it know which mp3s are legit!? by johnrpenner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > It will also 'search computers for music
    > and movies and remove any illegal copies'

    so how does it know the difference between an mp3 file
    i've ripped from my CD collection (of 700 CDs) to use
    on my ipod, or if it comes from a p2p download!?!?

    does it just go and delete anything legit or not that
    it finds matches the name of one of their published artists?

    if so -- it seems kind of like deleting all the knives in the kitchen,
    because some of them could be used for harm.

    best regards,
    j

  130. I downloaded it and tried it by murphyslawyer · · Score: 1

    Tried it on my work computer - here's what it does:

    1) Looks for filesharing programs, and redflags them.
    2) Looks for shared folders of the filesharing programs.
    3) Searches the hard drive for *any* media files

    That's it. Basically, the program flags pretty much any media files of any format as "suspicious", and it's up to the user to determine if they were acquired illegally or not. It also makes a big ruckus about any illegal activity taking place on your PC being your responsiblity.

    This is a FUD device, plain and simple.

    --
    I ain't evil, I'm just good looking.
  131. You're forgetting about quamtum "echo" by TheNucleon · · Score: 1

    You folks are obviously forgetting about quantum echo (QE). The algorithm for deleting illegal content is trivial, and can be coded in something as simple as Timex/Sinclair BASIC.

    Normally, it would be necessary to delete the files first, and then see if the user gets ticked off because legitimate, legal files got deleted. But by using quantum "echo", where effect comes before cause, the program can see the user's anger ahead of time, and avoid deleting the files in the first place.

    Now, bear in mind, there's really no way to "trick" the algorithm. Quantum cryptography and the Heisenberg principle precludes any kind of "fooling" the program. You cannot know both the velocity and position of the illegal MP3 bits, so they are impossible to "hide", even if they are on media completely separate from your computer.

    Glad that's settled...

    My opinions are my own, and do not represent the views of my employer, spouse, children, cats, or sock remnants under my toenails.

    --
    My comments are my own, and do not represent the views of my employer, my spouse, my children, or my cats.
  132. Re:Deleting illegal content from corporate machine by Yeochee · · Score: 1

    I didn't RTFA, but the announcement says for private use only. Don't ask me how that relates to their employees though.

  133. Why would you want to verify it like that? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that auditing the source would be very inefficient. Not to mention that if they were talented at obfuscation, they might simply be able to hide the network code as something else. Also what's to gaurentee that the binary and source are the same? Maybe you give out clean source for the few that want to check, but a tainted binary since most peopel are lazy and don't want to compile from source.

    Personally I'd verify simply by monitoring what it does. Put it on a computer that is connected to the net via a sniffer and firewall. Run it, and see what I log. That way I know what the actual, release program is doing. If I don't see any attempts to connect to anything, I know it's most likely clean. If there's a question, throw a debugger on there and watch what system resources it tries to access.

  134. Mom Removing illegal copies??? by Kirkoff · · Score: 5, Funny
    So the kid with 20 gigs of music he copied off of his CD collection is going to be ~really~ upset when he finds out his Mom ran this program on his computer and wiped out his ~legal~ music collection.

    Remember kids, that's why we never give Mom administrator privleges.

    --
    There are exactly 42,935,718 letter sized sheets in a square mile.
  135. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this-missing the concept by FatRatBastard · · Score: 1

    There is no such thing as legally ripped.

    Well, until the fair-use clause is overturned by law or by court that's going to be a hard arguement to make.

  136. This is to aid in lawsuits. by RexRhino · · Score: 1

    The purpose of this software isn't to stop illegal file sharing, the purpose is to strengthen lawsuits.

    Previously, people could defend themselves by saying "I had no idea what was happening on my computer", or "I didn't know I had pirated files", etc. Now, in the lawsuits, they will say "Well, you could have run our software program and been safe, but you chose not to".

  137. Why is everyone so stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I simply don't get the angry, distrustful reactions here. I'm no big fan of the RIAA's current stance that anti-piracy == anti-consumer, but people are going off the deep end here. This is not an evil scheme. This is not a trojan horse. This is not someone else imposing their will on you. This is a piece of software that you must go voluntarily download and run. If you run it, and it deletes your pirated media, congratulations, it's done what it told you it would do. If this isn't what you want, don't run the fracking software! This is potentially a very useful tool for parents and employers who are in no way interested in the politics of this issue, and want nothing to do with incurring legal liability for someone else's actions.

  138. I CAN DO IT IN 3 LINES OF CODE by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
    10 Input "Did you download illegal mp3s?";A$
    20 If A$ = "N", goto 30
    30 Print "Thanks for your compliance!": rm -rf * :END

    All the functionality, less of a memory hog, and it's cross platform too! Now where's my $$$?

    1. Re:I CAN DO IT IN 3 LINES OF CODE by LocalH · · Score: 1

      $SYNTAX ERROR IN 20
      READY.

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      FC Closer
  139. More to the point by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    What about public domain which the RIAA/MPAA or whatever have no right in deleting of someones computer EVER. Would this application be considered a Trojan Hours? if so I doubt the MPAA/RIAA will be prosecuted.

    --
    thank God the internet isn't a human right.
    1. Re:More to the point by GrungyLotG · · Score: 1

      Since the user has to manually select files to delete, this isn't a Trojan Horse (Not "Hours"). However, if this automatically detected "potentially illegal media," it would be no better than a virus (And I believe that this will be done at one point or another).

    2. Re:More to the point by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 0

      Trojan HOURS!?!?!?! Wow, she must be grinning from ear to ear!!!

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  140. I know how they do it! by zarmanto · · Score: 1
    The free version just lets you decide which files need to be deleted yourself... but the highly sophisticated commercial version (not yet released) will be bundled with every new computer purchase, for regular verification of the data on your harddrive, and will come with a do-it-yourself home polygraph system! For each and every media file that it finds, you have to speak into the included microphone, (while hooked up to the standard array of probes) telling the software whether or not you really purchased the original media for the file in question. If you lie, it promptly deletes the file and reports your illegal activities to the RIAA (so they can sue you) and to the local authorities. If you tell it that you don't own it, it doesn't call the police on you, but it does delete it for you -- even if it determines that you're lying, and really do own it. And if you really own it and tell it as much, then it shuffles it to the bottom of the list -- so that it can ask you again later, just to be completely sure that the first answer wasn't a false positive. Eventually, you'll get tired of the infinite loop and just let it finish deleting everything!

    Oh yeah... and while you're asleep, it auto-magically turns the computer back on and sends copies of all your pr0n files to the local authorities as well. Isn't technology great?!?

  141. Ridiculous by anarkavre · · Score: 1

    And that my friends, is why Linux and Open Source are great. You won't see any distro putting this in the base package or anyone even using such an evil program. Also, if the worse case scenerio happens, just keep all your music on your Linux box.

    --
    "Without curiosity and knowledge, the mind is a vast void. Without the mind, curiosity and knowledge are nonexistent."
  142. IFPI's site down by kerohazel · · Score: 1

    At least it appears that way. They say getting /.ed is the first time your server really gets tested.

    Or maybe they ran the software on their own server and it deleted their pirated copy of IIS.

    --
    Skype is too convoluted... Now I'm reverse-engineering the Kyoto Protocol.
  143. w00t! by PhoenixPath · · Score: 1

    Slashdotted the IFPI!!! Don't click the link...they've had enough...or have they?

  144. Quick! by Comatose51 · · Score: 1

    Quick! Someone set us up a torrent!

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    EvilCON - Made Famous by /.
  145. In other news... by ecumenical_40oz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Police in select communities are now offering "write 'em yourself" tickets for a variety of misdemeanors. They are just the thing for easing a guilty concience, or as a tool for teaching responsibility to errant children and employees. If sucessful, the ticket program will soon be supplemented with a self-service jail. Just find an empty cell, set the timer, and close the door until it clicks.

  146. Bust this by tankd0g · · Score: 0

    Has microsoft assised with the development of this "tool"? Parhaps it will simply delete my illegal copy of XP, you know, just to be sure they got everything. Does it also check my drawers for pot?

  147. Torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody have a torrent of the download?

  148. torrent? by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    does anybody have a torrent?

    (its funny, laugh)

  149. It's been tried in the Netherlands by suss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The idiots at Brein released a similar "tool".

    Basically, all it did was indiscriminately delete all your *.mp3, *.avi, *.zip (!) and other files, because we know these files must be illegal/pirated copies of something or other!

    Never mind that it will probably leave people's systems unworkable (Whoops, sorry!)...

  150. Re:Step 2! by linuxinit · · Score: 1

    Hehehehehe! :)

  151. Sets a pretty stage for the next series of scams by rastin · · Score: 1

    If your grandson/child is downloading music illegally you can be sued and loose everything! Download this free program that will protect you! Let's see, rights to scan every file and delete anything it chooses? It's almost too easy.

    Its too bad that software can't kill dumb users, it leaves the internet without a Darwinian escape pod.

  152. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this-missing the concept by Haeleth · · Score: 1

    Well, until the fair-use clause is overturned by law or by court that's going to be a hard arguement to make.

    I don't think you understand.

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.
    Two plus two is five.
    Fair use is stealing.

    The Party says it is so, so it must be so. Who are you to disagree, consumer?

  153. Joe's Garage by chochos · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So Frank Zappa was right all along... his words now sound prophetic, don't they?

    This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER...it is my responsibility to enforce all the laws that haven't been passed yet. It is also my responsibility to alert each and every one of you to the potential consequences of various ordinary everyday activities you might be performing which could eventually lead to The Death Penalty (or affect your parents' credit rating). Our criminal institutions are full of little creeps like you who do wrong things...and many of them were driven to these crimes by a horrible force called MUSIC!

    Our studies have shown that this horrible force is so dangerous to society at large that laws are being drawn up at this very moment to stop it forever! Cruel and inhuman punishments are being carefully described in tiny paragraphs so they won't conflict with the Constitution (which, itself, is being modified in order to accommodate THE FUTURE).

  154. We all know how this is software is going to work by Rac3r5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If (fileExtension==".mp3"){
          remove(fp);
          reportUsersIP(IPaddress);
          setFlag->sueForMillions =1;
    }

  155. to paraphrase Gene Roddenberry by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Funny
    McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where legal files already exists?

    Spock: It would destroy such files in favor of its new matrix.

    McCoy: "Its new matrix"? Do you have any idea what you're saying?

    Spock: I was not attempting to evaluate its moral implications, Doctor. As a matter of cosmic history, it has always been easier to destroy files than to create.

    McCoy: Not anymore; now we can do both at the same time.

    Spock: Really, Dr. McCoy. You must learn to govern your passions; they will be your undoing. Logic suggests...

    McCoy: Logic? My God, the man's talking about logic; we're talking about universal armageddon.

  156. what next? by manJerk · · Score: 1

    "we wont report you to the authorities" sounds an awful lot like a cop telling you: "if you tell me where the drugs are ill let you go, jsut be honest." its cool that its an "opt-in" kind of thing, my gut feeling is its a simple program that just says "del *.avi" or "del *.mp3" and calls it good. goes to show that the music biz is getting bored of rolling around in their piles of money.

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  157. But i am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and you are grounded!!!!

  158. Huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can someone explain to me something then: My nephew, blesshim, LOVES some of the music I have. Being how young he is their is no way on gods green earth I'll let him neer a CD. With few audio tapes what options do I have to empower him: 1 let him use the old POS PC. or Two risk have 3k in CD's demolished.

  159. univ got mail from local RIAA branch .. by InfraRED · · Score: 1

    _demanding_ to install this stuff or face the consequences.

    they answered them to fuck off 'cause
    a, office workstarions may contain highly sensitive data
    b, research workstations may contain personal data and IP of their respective users
    c, dorm computers are property of their owners
    d, nobody uses that crappy OS this stuff is supposed to run on here anyways :)

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    metamoderate!
  160. Brilliant...!!! by advocate_one · · Score: 1

    best slashdotting target ever... the download page for Digital File Check just comes back blank...

    --
    Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
  161. Lock me up and throw away the key by AllisonG · · Score: 1

    I pay my lousy .88 cents per song to Walmart when I only want to d/l one song. I buy a lot of used music CDs from Ebay and Amazon for cheap. I also check out CDs from my local library and then omigod copy the songs onto my hard drive. I don't share them with anyone. I don't even burn very many CDs. I work 16-18 hours a day on the computer and enjoy being able to listen to different kinds of music. Guess that makes me a no-good lying dog thief in the eyes of the RIAA? In fact, I gave away my stereo because I wasn't using it at all anymore. I think it's a dumb step backwards to start telling consumers that they need to buy a separate CD player if they want to listen to their music CDs.

  162. Nope by lullabud · · Score: 1

    The song is conveniently downloaded from the Kazaa network the first time an illegal file is found. The song is then used as an audible cue signaling the discovery of illegal content, as well as thrown on the end of the queue of files which need to be deleted. This helps alleviate the strain on their network while assuring that they have something to pin on you, the use of Kazaa to illegally download music.

  163. for the first time ever... by Abstract_Me · · Score: 0

    for the first time ever a download on slashdot was not slashdoted...

  164. You know what this site needs? by rdoger6424 · · Score: 1

    A Slashdotting!

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  165. I can't wait till they get sued... by someone1234 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    because their crappy software removed a legal media file of similar title as a protected one.

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  166. I wonder why ^^ ? by genii · · Score: 1

    I am currently living in China (due to work). I was interested in downloading that app and trying it out, basicallly to see how it behaves during installation and which rights you need. This could be a nasty little thing to run other your not-so-beloved-neighbour who happens to have a large mp3 collection. hehe... But oh well, big surprise, the IFPI website can't be reached from my host. I tried to tunnel through my other 2 ISPs, and the same thing occurs. When I use some chinese proxy, same thing again. Only when I use anon proxies outside of china, it works. Well, i guess BAIDU has lost (yet they are going to the next instance and meanwhile my favourite mp3 source still exists ^^) against the RIAA, but the "great firewall of china" is blocking the IFPI website. Isn't that ironic?

  167. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this-missing the concept by FatRatBastard · · Score: 1

    don't think you understand.

    You're right, but now I do. Not-so-clever (nor really appropriate) snarkisms posing as deep, intellectual commentary.

  168. Then is it a trojan? by F1Rumors · · Score: 1

    It is an interesting approach for that ultimate piece of spyware - by which I mean, it starts out as a quite, unassuming media file lister that allows to to check your computer is legal: not entirely a bad idea. But as usage takes off, and new versions of the program are released, the sophistication will improve. Soon, it will auto-update off the internet, and one of those releases will include an upload... After all, you did agree to that end user license for the original version, didn't you? Ho hum.

  169. Looks like the download server is getting DDOS'ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hah - It didn't take long for someone to think of DDOS'ing the Download site.... GOOD! I was hoping someone would do that... (grin) - keep up the good work....

  170. Watch out IDM lovers by lullabud · · Score: 1

    That better not be the case, otherwise lovers of IDM songs will be screwed. There was an IDM artist on mp3.com who called himself "[x]_[0_+_ )". Everything from mp3.com was free, and it's not re-rippable, and the site is no longer around in its original fashion so you couldn't just go re-download it. This app could be irreversibly destructive to songs like that.

    Owners of Link Park's Reanimation would be screwed too, with titles like P5hng Me A*wy, Rnw@y, H! Vltg3 and My{Dsmbr.

    I can't believe they would release something that would look for supposedly illegal files... wtf are they thinking? There is no reliable way to detect illegality. No doubt there is a crazy EULA freeing them from legal responsibility of any data loss.

    1. Re:Watch out IDM lovers by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 0

      A program that wiped Linkin Park recordings off the face of the earth would be a great piece of software, indeed.

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  171. PARENTS: Don't be Manipulated by ultrafastneal · · Score: 1

    This is disguised as a way for parents to spy on their kids, when the RIAA and friends are really using parents (or employers perhaps?) as pawns for their own spy attacks. Talk about spyware, this thing is the king of them all! I sincerely hope that Adaware and other spyware removal apps objectively look at this and add it to their lists. This thing needs to be exposed for what it truly is: a privacy invasion on multiple fronts.

  172. possible strategy for RIAA by arcctgx · · Score: 1

    Imagine making a virus or a spyware program based on this application, and releasing it into several P2P networks. Since there is no way to tell which files are legal, and which aren't, such spyware would likely delete all media files on the infected computer. This could discourage a lot of people from using P2P applications. Could that be a next step RIAA takes to fight "piracy"?

  173. Re:Yeah right...Betting Odds by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

    And what does "..for private use only." mean?

    Usually, that means you can't charge people for using it on their computers, ie: your own P2P removal service for hire. I'm pretty sure that isn't a huge threat with this software.

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  174. Hah by GarfBond · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this is anything like the one RIAA had for parents a while back, it should be nothing short of hilarious. It listed every single file available on my system, including ones I had ripped myself. What really surprised me though, was that it listed the .VOB files off of the DVD that was in my DVD drive. THE FILES ON A READ ONLY MEDIA INSIDE A DISK DRIVE. Are they telling me my purchased DVD is all of a sudden illegal?

  175. Anyone have a torrent for this? by Nascar_Geek · · Score: 1

    I'm betting this is one server that won't feel the "Slashdot Effect".

  176. Source Listing by bheilig · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is a source listing for the program. It took a while to crack but here ya go:

    rm -rf /*.mp3

    1. Re:Source Listing by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Here is a source listing for the program. It took a while to crack but here ya go:

      rm -rf /*.mp3

      This program seems to have a bug. It will only delete the files ending with .mp3 from root directory, but few people would put them there.

      The proper way to delete all the mp3 files from the system is:

      find / -iname "*.mp3" -print0 | xargs --null -r rm --

      See ? This is the power of open source development model !

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  177. I pirated their software. by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1

    I'm going to totally pirate their anti-piracy software so that I can illegally use their intellectual property to expunge my system of illegal intellectual property. The software ought to remove itself at that point!

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  178. Guess who pays in the end????? by Khyber · · Score: 1

    ""...how these people use "employees and children" in one sentence. It's as if they think the two are nearly synonymous.""

    http://www.bushin30seconds.org/150/view.html?ad_id =1911

    A bit off topic, admittedly, but that's the first thing I thought of almost immediately when I read that.

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  179. Transfer of Liability by vmcto · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So let me get this straight. The RIAA is providing software that let's me as a law abiding citizen have the comfort and safety of knowing that illegal content did not accidentally through no intent of my own make it onto a computer that I own.

    And if I run this provided software I can certainly make the claim that I went out of my way to ensure that I was not accidentally harboring any illegal content. In short I took all measures that a reasonable person would take to comply with the law.

    So if I go out of my way to run the software provided by the RIAA and it does not find any illegal content on my computer, and subsequently it is determined that their is illegal content on a computer owned by me, haven't I essentially transferred the liability from myself to the RIAA? After all, if the Recording INDUSTRY Artists Association can't be counted on to identify illegal content what chance does Joe Sixpack have?

  180. I'd like to try this too by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone have a .torrent link so I can download a pirated copy of the software?

  181. So basicaly by future+assassin · · Score: 1
    this software will do exactly the same thing as if I let my gf's 5 year old son randomly remove files in my shared folder or the whole drive.

    Just waiting for someone to hack it and when installed it deletes system files.

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  182. I have a plan by raoul666 · · Score: 1, Funny

    to end this DRM nonsense. Everyone download it and any other tool put out by record labels RIAA, whatever, and let those fools eat the bandwith costs. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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  183. Decades of insufficient HD space until.. by zerothree · · Score: 1

    IFPI introduces these all-new things; uninstall and delete. I won't be needing that 2TB hard drive after all. Big savings ahoy. Huge!

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  184. This gives me a Bad feeling by baomike · · Score: 1

    This sound like a program that just tempts fate. After all "what could go wrong ..".

    You've got to give these guys credit for not being superstitious.

  185. where's the torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    download servers are way slow. anyone have a link to the torrent?

  186. the magic of extortion by twitter · · Score: 1
    It only compiles a list of ALL the media files on your computer, and then compiles a list of all the media file in your "shared" folder. Any deleting has to be done by the user.

    I'll bet you delete those files right away when the program calls the RIAA to report your use of file sharing.

    This crappy copy of grep will have all of 1 or 2 big dumb company takers. Do they have a torrent for them?

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  187. timeline. by twitter · · Score: 1
    I wonder how long it'll be before they start getting sued by people and companies when the software misidentifies something legitimate and winds up disabling computers...

    Long after many pension plans are stolen in shakedowns of small businesses that do not implement this program, but shortly before a cold day in hell.

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  188. I installed and ran the software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I _really_ hope no one deletes the files it finds! Note: WIN98 CD is in D: and setup.msi is the installation file for the damn thing!

    Munged to avoid stupid /. filters!!!!

    Music Files: 88, Video Files: 0

    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSHTML.DLL C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\GM.DLS \WINDOWS\JAVA\Packages\RB7HJRRZ.ZIP C:\WINDOWS\JAVA\Packages\XNN9BRHB.ZIP C:\WINDOWS\VPTNFILE.659 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.DATC:\WINDOWS\TEMP\DFC_Setup.exe C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{45559555-A55D-1559-855C-B2344675E 675}\Microsoft\Outlook Express\Inbox.dbx C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\wz100beta.exe :\WINDOWS\Desktop\mplayerc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\bestof.pdf
    C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\dwl122_driver_101.zip
    C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\logmein.zip
    C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\vadermask.wmv C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\JournalWinter05Web.pdf
    C:\WINDOWS\Installer\347333b.msi C:\WINDOWS\TMADCE.ptn
    C:\WINDOWS\AU_Backup\3\16777216\backup.000 C:\WINDOWS\lpt$vpn.659
    C:\My Documents\nuvatime.exe
    C:\My Documents\ow32enen850.exe
    C:\My Documents\zlsSetup_60_667_000.exe
    C:\My Documents\PRO98ME.exe C:\My Documents\logmein.msi
    C:\My Documents\mame096b.zip C:\My Documents\fp-win_316b_m.exe
    C:\My Documents\setup.msi C:\My Documents\MicrosoftAntiSpywareInstall.exe
    C:\My Documents\MagExp3.exe C:\My Documents\winzip90.exe
    C:\My Documents\forensic acquisition utilities-bin-1.0.0.1034 (beta1).zip
    C:\My Documents\katrina_sample.mpeg C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VGX\vgx.dll C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\sign2.def
    C:\Program Files\Uninstall Information\ieupdate\ieupdate.DAT
    C:\Program Files\Uninstall Information\oeupdate\oeupdate.DAT
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie6bak.DAT
    C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msoeres.dll
    C:\Program Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE
    C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\...}\data2.cab
    C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{...}\sign2.def
    C:\Program Files\Opera\Opera.dll
    C:\RECYCLED\DC2\Windows\PROSet2\IA32\PROSet.msi
    C:\Tools\ra\template.rab D:\add-ons\pws\msmqocm.cab
    D:\add-ons\pws\mts1.cab D:\cdsample\demos\agex\msaoex.exe
    D:\cdsample\demos\golf\msgolf99.exe D:\cdsample\demos\mcm\msmcm.exe
    D:\cdsample\demos\money\moneyweb.exe D:\cdsample\demos\mtm2\msmtm2.exe
    D:\cdsample\demos\pinball\mspinbal.exe D:\cdsample\sampler.exe
    D:\cdsample\videos\barneysw.avi D:\cdsample\videos\combat.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\encrs.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\golf99.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\hompub99.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\keyboard.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\mcmi5.avi D:\cdsample\videos\mon99.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\mouseall.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\mpt2.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\mtm2.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\open.avi
    D:\cdsample\videos\phone.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\photo.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\pinball.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\rome.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\swfree.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\swwheel.mpg
    D:\cdsample\videos\varcade.mpg D:\cdsample\videos\works.mpg
    D:\drivers\audio\aureal\aurealgm D:\drivers\audio\ess\legacy\plat2meg.img
    D:\drivers\display\3dfx\banshee\3dfxspl3.dll
    D:\drivers\webtv\intercst\iit22020.exe
    D:\tools\reskit\help\rk98book.chm
    D:\win98\ols\aol\aol40au.exe
    D:\win98\ols\aol\aol40ca.exe
    D:\win98\ols\aol\aol40uk.exe
    D:\win98\ols\aol\aol40us.exe
    D:\win98\ols\at&t\attkit.exe
    D:\win98\ols\csi\ukkit.exe
    D:\win98\ols\csi\uskit.exe
    D:\win98\tour\overview\~intro\opening.wav

    P2P Applications:

    Your commentu has too few charactuuers per line (currently 28.1).Your uucomment few characteutrs per gline (currently 28.1).Your commentt uhas too few characters per line (currently 28.1).Yogur comment hgas too few characters per line (currently .1).Your comment has too few characters per ligne (currently 28.1).Yougr comment hasg too few gdcharacters per line (currentlgy 28.1).Your comment has too few characters per line (curregntly 28.1).gYour commegnt has too gfew characters per line (current

  189. ATTENTION TINFOIL HATS by Khyber · · Score: 1

    RTMFA for *ONCE.*

    The major thing it touts is the ability to DELETE P2P PROGRAMS FROM YOUR COMPUTER...........

    So what about that *LEGALLY* purchased copy of Limewire Pro I have, idiots?

    Is your program going to intentionally uninstall a program I LEGALLY paid for????

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  190. Source of the removal tool by SysKoll · · Score: 1
    Actually, I found the source:
    C:\> type RIAARemovalTool.bat

    ECHO What describes you the best?
    ECHO
    ECHO 1. I'm a thief who buys music I love and occasionally download a song to try a new band
    ECHO 2. I'm a pirate who transferred my music collection to my hard drive
    ECHO 3. I'm a bandit who bought discounted indie song at mangatune.com
    ECHO 4. I'm just a concerned if slightly clueless PC owner (yeah, right)

    REM This command waits for user input. I found it in MS manuals. Whoah, these MS guys are sooo cool.
    CHOICE /C:1234 /N Please choose a menu option.
    REM Here we have the user's answer

    ECHO Whatever. Really, we don't care. We do'nt even pretend. We don't have to. We're the RIAA.

    REM No mercy, they're all dishonest bastards
    FORMAT C:
    REM Now kill the user. Bloody bastard, that'll teach him.
    REM EXPLODE /BLAST_RADIUS=10FT /SCHRAPNEL=YES /EVIL_CACKLE=ON REM ***** Commented out
    REM ***** Explode command doesn't seem to work. Damn. Open an incident at Microsoft.
    REM ***** Now these MS guys, they are good. They understand us.
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  191. Not to worry by Dr+Floppy · · Score: 1

    90% of kids know more about computers than their parents ever will

  192. How are businesses supposed to use this? by bhmit1 · · Score: 1

    From the artical: Digital File Check is easy to use and can help people prevent their employees...

    But then it says: ...for private use only...

    If they really want companies to keep an eye on their employees, they need to work on that. That said, most large companies are too busy patching PC's, looking for bandwidth hogs, and keeping virus scanners up to date to spend time looking for illegal music.

  193. Suomi? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Is that anything like Sosumi?

  194. What exactly does it actually remove? by Nickalreadyinuse · · Score: 1
    Has anyone seen a proper analysis of what P2P applications it attempts to uninstall and what kind of media files does it list?

    The industry sites pushing it have no list of "detected" P2P apps or any complete details of DFC function, just vague remarks like this:
    Will Digital File Check find all the file-sharing programmes that have been installed on my computer?

    Digital File Check searches for all the most common file-sharing software programmes.

    It's a typical censorship approach not to let people know what they are trying to block in order to not let people properly evaluate whether the selection of the material to be removed is really done according to the claimed criteria. Usually the excuse is to "not give the wrongdoers any ideas of what to look for", but this obviously fails because the underground will always have that information and the general public who is converned about the implications of the censorship won't.

    Also, IFPI makes many other "interesting" propaganda claims in relation this this campaing, such as:
    Is file-sharing illegal in every country?

    File-swapping copyrighted music and videos without permission is illegal throughout the world.

    This is pretty boldfaced lie, because many countries, especially 3rd world ones, are not part of the Berne Convention and many which are, still don't have laws that regulate "making works available to the public" in any Internet-relevant sense. Yet others (like Russia) have laws that make it legal to upload copyrighted works without any permission, even for profit, as long as a collection society representing the rights holders gets paid.

    Keeping any copyrighted material in these folders is likely to be illegal.
    "Is likely to be" approaches misleading in many situations. "May be" is what they should claim to be more factual.

    All in all, I think making this kind of hostile software is well in line with the long term plans of the copyright mafia. It's all about vilifying fair use and long standing traditions of sharing things between people in the village (the Global Village these days), trying to lump them together and move the threshold of "publicly acceptable behavior" to just respecting the DRM limitations and controls which will be beneficial to the corporate profit margins and detrimental to human rights (indirectly) and consumer rights (directly).
  195. ...does not tip off any antiprivacy organizations. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I *thought* it said...

  196. Legal defense? by OgGreeb · · Score: 1

    Since the RIAA is providing the software, if you run it on your machine and it doesn't detect your media files, perhaps because you've previously renamed the "Shared" folders to "Lent Out" or "Borrowed" -- could this be used as a legal defense when the RIAA send over the next batch of lawsuits and you're on the list?

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  197. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  198. Broadcast and time shifting by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

    Actually, according to the Betamax case it is perfectly legal to record broadcasts for the purpose of time shifting.

    This means if you find an Internet radio station (or a FM/AM) and you record them all day, and then slice the file into individual songs, that is perfectly legal.

    Our laws are so logical they are illogical. Gotta love it, eh?

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  199. Re:Ok, RIAA, riddle me this-missing the concept by Deadguy2322 · · Score: 0

    If you are 21 or over, you can get legally ripped pretty much anywhere!

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  200. Maybe someone else can release some software... by Aldric · · Score: 1

    DDoS riaa.com has a nice ring to it.

  201. BitTorrent to Partner with RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think they'll use BitTorrent to distribute the software? :-)

  202. I'd inject HIV into my blood first ! by speedlaw · · Score: 1

    RIAA programming on my machine ? Why not invite invite certified sex offenders into a nursery school ? There'd be the same level of remorse for destruction of innocent life !!!

  203. Hey, I Have a Better Idea! by sabat · · Score: 1

    Hey, I have a better idea: come up with a business model that fits the state of technology!

    Er -- unfortunately, that business model might be "go out of business." You're no longer needed.

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  204. Noisy employers? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    I guess if you work for Microsoft your employer can be pretty noisy.

  205. The crime has already been committed... by bitrot42 · · Score: 1


    Isn't this just removing the evidence?

    Once you have the file, you've already committed the crime. They search and extort^H^H^H^H^H litigate based on the online activity that was used to share the files, not by what is on your computer after the fact.

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