The Safari team should focus on webcore, which is what Apple's shareholders want them to do. They shouldn't be working part-time on backporting to another, non-Apple project.
The investors might want Apple to provide free copies of Photoshop too but thats not going to happen. no matter what shareholders really want them to do what they really have to abide by in the end is the terms of the license they have code under
Can someone tell any more news on whether KDE people are successful getting Apple to release their code properly? I know they obviously can use part of the code like they have here, as they have done some of it and pass the Acid2 test.
Is that enough under the GPL? shouldn't Apple be doing more?
This is what makes me worry about science. What is the purpose of knowing this information? It is good if it is in modern reptiles and birds, ones we have to deal with now.
Ones we might be able to exploit now, and use the attributes of. But dinosaurs are gone. It's been proven time and time again they have no DNA to bring them back.
I think this is a sidetrack issue. Like the recent slashdot article talking about research stating the bleeding obvious, why is this necessary?
We would be better off if all science had a governing body that said which studies are worthwhile.
Not just which ones can be done for the sake of being done.
I see a problem with this. The amount of alcohol stopping a person from driving sensibly varies so much. I know I can go double the legal limit before I am impaired and many others are the same.
So why shouldn't we be able to drive then? It's causing unfair restrainment in a product we own.
If this becomes mandatory in cars I'm ripping it out of mine right away.
Hmmmm? the idea of OS in a ROM on the computer sounds dodgy. I mean in that it forced you to always use the operating system that comes with the computer.
If that becomes common practice then it can turn around and bite us
What if microsoft do the same. Windows in ROM with some patches coming through software. It would force your machine to always only ever use windows.
Once it's legislated that you can't mess with your hardware, it means you then have to use windows.
I think Microsoft's xbox DRM to make sure no other operating system runs easily on the hardware is an entryway into this system.
> There are no LGPL violations, merely some KDE developers > frustrated that while everyone thought there was loads of happy, > shiny collaboration going on between them and Apple, there > wasn't.
I've heard otherwise, and from kde developers too.
how about taking more market share away from IE by making a browser baed on apple safari.
webcore they allow to freely download so anybody could download that and work on a better browser. and if the current lgpl violations can be worked out it could make yet another very good alternative to IE so together firefox netscape mozilla safari and other webcore browsers could take IE market share
> Seriously, doesn't anyone take privacy seriously
The sites dont take it seriously because the students dont take it seriously.
if privacy info was treated like money or like cars or like anything else people attach "worth" to then the blocks would have been patched 10 years ago and never allowed to leak!
but people dont care about privacy breaks. u could have a telemarketer phone 100,000 people and say "hi is your name xxxxx and social security number yyyyyyy? if so then we have a deal for you!!!" but nobody would care.
but if you had a telemarketer phone and say "hi I have your car here with me would you like a deal" well I bet law enforcement would close them down in days.
but its not going to happens because people in general dont care when their private details let out. like if people get emailed by a company to their own name and address, they accept it. they get viruses they accept it. they get telemarketer custom phonecalls and they accept it.
Well this is one of those things that shows how the government is out of touch with reality and of what goes on outside of theory. all good and maybe 'faith based' government is like this. believe it and it will come true?
I remember a US school district dumped apple laptops for schools because they werent made in the US.
Wonder which US-made laptops they picked up instead. mattel?
Well maybe youd like to explain this destroyed powerbook then. the heat was enough to buckled the frame and everything.
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What worries me is importing what is made in cuba into the US.
What happens when cuban sysadmins start submitting patches into linux? is this not then code that is a product of cuba? that would be Illegal to bring into the USA.
which then comes into a linux used in the USA?
This worries me, as then microsoft could use this as a legal loophole to prohibit the use of Linux in the USA.
That would be a big boon for them as then they would have no competition.
Think about it. How ridiculous does it sound. Or not?
Doesn't Linux handle HT the same way it handles SMP? So even if there was a hole in HT, hardware-wise, software wise you would be just as protected as you would be on an SMP system?
Well if it happened like that, wouldn't it then mean dual core CPU's are even more so vulnerable?
And there are many of those coming out. I don't think I'll get one now I know what the problems are.
Simple fact; anyone who wants to be pedantic about it can correctly argue that the 1024 definition of kilobyte is wrong. What they can't do is give any proper justification for changing a definition that everyone knew and understood to mean 1024 bytes.
Because it's not a simple fact. kilobyte is 1024 bytes when referring to binary addressed data (such as RAM chips) but is 1000 bytes when used in other areas, such as network bandwidth, or floppy drive space, or bus bandwidth, or what have you.
The problem is everyone does not know and understand 1024 bytes to be one kilobyte, they only presume it always does, when it quite obviously doesn't.
Since you've demonstrated confusion over the matter yourself by making a blanket statement that 1024 bytes is one kilobyte, while ignoring the times when it IS NOT one kilobyte, you demonstrate a need for rejecting the system that lead to your own confusion.
Don't even *think* of saying that using decimal kilobytes et al had any purpose other than making drives seem bigger than they were; that trick only worked because everyone had previously agreed that a kilobyte was 1024 bytes.
Why do you say such inaccuracies? drives going back to the first drives ever made used kilobyte = 1000 bytes. It has always been that way and that is the correct way because a hard drive is not binary addressed data rather it is arbitrary based on the number of bits that fit on a circle of metal. Nobody "previously agreed that a kilobyte was 1024 bytes" because that is a blanket incorrect statement.
People agreed that a kilobyte is 1024 bytes only when referring to binary addressed data which is not the case on a hard drive platter which is an arbitrary size much like network speeds or things like bandwidth. The only time in a hard drive life when kilobyte=1024 is when you are talking about the MAXIMUM ADDRESSABLE DATA over the controller that the drive is attached to. and that has a bit width and therefor is a power of two.
Drives always have been decimal binary even from when they were first research-only inventions. it is revisionism to suggest it is all marketing and you have fallen into a trap of thinking that.
Well I think it should be the other way around. paying members should get the update first and then leave it to be downloaded later. Or maybe on the same day, but not put people who pay for an operating system on the backburner when free things go first.,
What is this? this is ridiculous. My current up to date tiger Mac is only on darwin 8.0.0 and now they are giving away free 8.0.1? Wake up Apple some people are paying you to get products, not to pay for lagging behind. Fair enough if its the same version but I dont see any 8.0.1 in Tiger anywhere soon???:angry:
The report says to dump microsoft. What happens when microsoft do make the best tool for the job? It seems too broad to me.
Maybe linux is good for 80% of things and MS good for 20%. maybe the other way around or some other combination. Is it certain that open source software is always the best use for our kids? always? without fail and no MS ever again?
Just recommending dumping one supplier of software simply to save money is a worry.
Is our school's education all related to money? do we just want to make it cheaper?
Or make it truly better. As much as I don't like Microsoft maybe there are situations where their software is best.
Just saying to dump them because of cost to save 24% sounds appealing at a first glance, but then replacing teachers with babysitters at half the wages would save 50%.
But it's not doing much good for the kids. Maybe a less broad "Microsoft is 100% evil" attitude would help the kids. Their the ones learning
And everyone will say ":oh no firefox is a security risk" whaaaa. well this isnt really the case and is overstating things just a bit. When it comes down to it firefox still has many quicker fixes and the bug is probably already fixed by now.
So if this is the case where is the problem? a non issue if you ask me.
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The Safari team should focus on webcore, which is what Apple's shareholders want them to do. They shouldn't be working part-time on backporting to another, non-Apple project.
The investors might want Apple to provide free copies of Photoshop too but thats not going to happen. no matter what shareholders really want them to do what they really have to abide by in the end is the terms of the license they have code under
And they could be doing better there.,
Apple could still be doing alot more and still be within the bounds of the license, and I think they should be
Can someone tell any more news on whether KDE people are successful getting Apple to release their code properly? I know they obviously can use part of the code like they have here, as they have done some of it and pass the Acid2 test.
Is that enough under the GPL? shouldn't Apple be doing more?
It's funny how rewording something can make shit sound good.
"We will recycle your iPod for free!" doesn't sound like half as much a ripoff as "I'll buy your iPod for $30"
This is what makes me worry about science. What is the purpose of knowing this information? It is good if it is in modern reptiles and birds, ones we have to deal with now.
Ones we might be able to exploit now, and use the attributes of. But dinosaurs are gone. It's been proven time and time again they have no DNA to bring them back.
I think this is a sidetrack issue. Like the recent slashdot article talking about research stating the bleeding obvious, why is this necessary?
We would be better off if all science had a governing body that said which studies are worthwhile.
Not just which ones can be done for the sake of being done.
For all the whining teenagers... your time has finally come. yes, people want to pay you to get all angsty.
I see a problem with this. The amount of alcohol stopping a person from driving sensibly varies so much. I know I can go double the legal limit before I am impaired and many others are the same.
So why shouldn't we be able to drive then? It's causing unfair restrainment in a product we own.
If this becomes mandatory in cars I'm ripping it out of mine right away.
Hmmmm? the idea of OS in a ROM on the computer sounds dodgy. I mean in that it forced you to always use the operating system that comes with the computer.
If that becomes common practice then it can turn around and bite us
What if microsoft do the same. Windows in ROM with some patches coming through software. It would force your machine to always only ever use windows.
Once it's legislated that you can't mess with your hardware, it means you then have to use windows.
I think Microsoft's xbox DRM to make sure no other operating system runs easily on the hardware is an entryway into this system.
And I don't like the sound of it
> There are no LGPL violations, merely some KDE developers
> frustrated that while everyone thought there was loads of happy,
> shiny collaboration going on between them and Apple, there
> wasn't.
I've heard otherwise, and from kde developers too.
how about taking more market share away from IE by making a browser baed on apple safari.
webcore they allow to freely download so anybody could download that and work on a better browser. and if the current lgpl violations can be worked out it could make yet another very good alternative to IE so together firefox netscape mozilla safari and other webcore browsers could take IE market share
> Seriously, doesn't anyone take privacy seriously
The sites dont take it seriously because the students dont take it seriously.
if privacy info was treated like money or like cars or like anything else people attach "worth" to then the blocks would have been patched 10 years ago and never allowed to leak!
but people dont care about privacy breaks. u could have a telemarketer phone 100,000 people and say "hi is your name xxxxx and social security number yyyyyyy? if so then we have a deal for you!!!" but nobody would care.
but if you had a telemarketer phone and say "hi I have your car here with me would you like a deal" well I bet law enforcement would close them down in days.
but its not going to happens because people in general dont care when their private details let out. like if people get emailed by a company to their own name and address, they accept it. they get viruses they accept it. they get telemarketer custom phonecalls and they accept it.
too used to it happening to care now are people.
Apparently the increment provbided by bush was for only mars exploration by humans.
So other areas of NASA still require funding from other areas or other areas of the government.
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Well this is one of those things that shows how the government is out of touch with reality and of what goes on outside of theory. all good and maybe 'faith based' government is like this. believe it and it will come true?
I remember a US school district dumped apple laptops for schools because they werent made in the US.
Wonder which US-made laptops they picked up instead. mattel?
Ahhh how I long for the days when games weren't all just a different version of the same first person shooter.
Well maybe youd like to explain this destroyed powerbook then. the heat was enough to buckled the frame and everything.
What worries me is importing what is made in cuba into the US.
What happens when cuban sysadmins start submitting patches into linux? is this not then code that is a product of cuba? that would be Illegal to bring into the USA.
which then comes into a linux used in the USA?
This worries me, as then microsoft could use this as a legal loophole to prohibit the use of Linux in the USA.
That would be a big boon for them as then they would have no competition.
Think about it. How ridiculous does it sound. Or not?
No it's not the hitler youth, it's the Thought Police Youth.
Just took 20 years longer than 1984.
"Kilobyte" has never been considered "1000 bytes" anywhere except a hard disk manufacturer's marketing department.
No, Kilobyte has only ever meant "1024 bytes" when referring to binary addressable spaces.
Doesn't Linux handle HT the same way it handles SMP? So even if there was a hole in HT, hardware-wise, software wise you would be just as protected as you would be on an SMP system?
Well if it happened like that, wouldn't it then mean dual core CPU's are even more so vulnerable?
And there are many of those coming out. I don't think I'll get one now I know what the problems are.
Simple fact; anyone who wants to be pedantic about it can correctly argue that the 1024 definition of kilobyte is wrong. What they can't do is give any proper justification for changing a definition that everyone knew and understood to mean 1024 bytes.
Because it's not a simple fact. kilobyte is 1024 bytes when referring to binary addressed data (such as RAM chips) but is 1000 bytes when used in other areas, such as network bandwidth, or floppy drive space, or bus bandwidth, or what have you.
The problem is everyone does not know and understand 1024 bytes to be one kilobyte, they only presume it always does, when it quite obviously doesn't.
Since you've demonstrated confusion over the matter yourself by making a blanket statement that 1024 bytes is one kilobyte, while ignoring the times when it IS NOT one kilobyte, you demonstrate a need for rejecting the system that lead to your own confusion.
Don't even *think* of saying that using decimal kilobytes et al had any purpose other than making drives seem bigger than they were; that trick only worked because everyone had previously agreed that a kilobyte was 1024 bytes.
Why do you say such inaccuracies? drives going back to the first drives ever made used kilobyte = 1000 bytes. It has always been that way and that is the correct way because a hard drive is not binary addressed data rather it is arbitrary based on the number of bits that fit on a circle of metal. Nobody "previously agreed that a kilobyte was 1024 bytes" because that is a blanket incorrect statement.
People agreed that a kilobyte is 1024 bytes only when referring to binary addressed data which is not the case on a hard drive platter which is an arbitrary size much like network speeds or things like bandwidth. The only time in a hard drive life when kilobyte=1024 is when you are talking about the MAXIMUM ADDRESSABLE DATA over the controller that the drive is attached to. and that has a bit width and therefor is a power of two.
Drives always have been decimal binary even from when they were first research-only inventions. it is revisionism to suggest it is all marketing and you have fallen into a trap of thinking that.
Well I think it should be the other way around. paying members should get the update first and then leave it to be downloaded later. Or maybe on the same day, but not put people who pay for an operating system on the backburner when free things go first.,
What is this? this is ridiculous. My current up to date tiger Mac is only on darwin 8.0.0 and now they are giving away free 8.0.1? Wake up Apple some people are paying you to get products, not to pay for lagging behind. Fair enough if its the same version but I dont see any 8.0.1 in Tiger anywhere soon??? :angry:
But its not a all one or all the other thing.
The report says to dump microsoft. What happens when microsoft do make the best tool for the job? It seems too broad to me.
Maybe linux is good for 80% of things and MS good for 20%. maybe the other way around or some other combination. Is it certain that open source software is always the best use for our kids? always? without fail and no MS ever again?
Just recommending dumping one supplier of software simply to save money is a worry.
Is our school's education all related to money? do we just want to make it cheaper?
Or make it truly better. As much as I don't like Microsoft maybe there are situations where their software is best.
Just saying to dump them because of cost to save 24% sounds appealing at a first glance, but then replacing teachers with babysitters at half the wages would save 50%.
But it's not doing much good for the kids. Maybe a less broad "Microsoft is 100% evil" attitude would help the kids. Their the ones learning
And everyone will say ":oh no firefox is a security risk" whaaaa. well this isnt really the case and is overstating things just a bit. When it comes down to it firefox still has many quicker fixes and the bug is probably already fixed by now.
So if this is the case where is the problem? a non issue if you ask me.