As far as they are concerned, Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1 are competitors to Windows 10 which costs them more to maintain and with fewer monetization/expansion options, why would they do anything but encourage you to move to the new great future they believe they have created?
The features for adding telemetry to previous versions of Windows do not add any real customer-facing value. It only benefits Redmond. After almost a year of "free upgrade offer" and "forced upgrades", Microsoft knows anyone not on 10 is taking proactive steps to stay there. If they get the telemetry added to the customer's previous version of Windows, well there's one less reason to stay on that version -- might as well upgrade to 10 and get the new features.
The fewer people using the older version of Windows, the easier it will be for Microsoft to hand-wave off having to support them, too. Remember how they pretty much had to offer to extend support for XP due to its popularity?
Microsoft is already is on the hook to support these (current) older versions of Windows for some time because of their own product lifecycles. They can try what they want with their "changeable EULAs" but suddenly shortening the support lifecycle for a software product purchased by a business sounds like a great way to get certain individuals phoning their state attorney generals.
And did they add this 'spyware' after the releases of later operating systems?
We don't need to cite that data harvesting makes a company money. It's literally the business plan of several dot-coms. As far as them adding the telemetry to earlier versions of Windows, it's common knowledge now. http://techne.alaya.net/?p=124...
I have personally deselected and hidden these updates only to see them get un-hidden and added automatically as Recommended updates to download and install at a later date. I'd also like to note this had happened more than once with some of these individual updates, and it often happens when I get a large (15-30 updates) list at once from Microsoft. These large groups of updates are not "backed up" updates I have missed since last time. I have Windows Update run as a startup item when I log in to my computer, so I'm manually checking for updates every day on my PC. And every day I get an update for the Windows Defender definitions. But once in awhile I get a dozen or so "important" updates for Windows itself, and it's quite coincidental that one of the updates I had previously hidden is added into that list.
Seems like a orchestrated attempt to get me to install it. Stick it in a large list, and I'm more likely to just say "install all" than actually read the KBs for each or compare them to a list of known problem ones.
Tell me, if these updates are so harmless, why is Microsoft so vehement I install them after I tell them once I don't want them?
Already got a Mac laptop. Have they developed a way to install OSX maintenance releases easily on a Hackintosh yet? Last time I checked it sounded like your system was whatever you built and you had to start over again if you wanted to update the OS.
Thanks for the info. Like the (great) grandparent poster I'm also in a position where I will be moving away from Windows for my next machine, but I was in the conundrum of 1) I like building my own computers vs. 2) I want to be able to keep using Photoshop.
Was looking I was going to have to just get a Mac and give up the home-built hobby, but this gives me hope.
Using a "com4" name, Windows considers the folder as being a device, meaning that the user cannot easily delete it. Given that Windows treats the folder "com4" folder differently, Windows Explorer or typical console commands are useless when attempting to delete it.
Couldn't I just boot up off a Linux disk, mount the Windows partition, and delete the folder that way? Linux isn't going to play along with this "oooo, let's pretend this directory is hardware" game.
I'm curious if we'll see new stand-alone TDD/TTY devices (that have a SIM slot instead of a phone jack on them), or perhaps wireless carriers will just do a web-based gateway service instead (log into your account on your carrier's website, enter a destination number, and once the connection is made type away in the input area).
Even if they *didn't* get sued I don't see this going anywhere. They've already tried this with CableCard, and except for TiVos and some in-TV setups there wasn't a big debut of third-party yes-you-own-it-outright equipment.
Then, there was supposed to be an entirely software-based version of the same thing. Never even got off the planning board.
Finally, presumably the company has deep pockets as well as a deep mind and can therefore be sued if they are negligent.
That means they also have equally deep pockets to defend themselves in court, or buy politicians to pass legislation so you can't sue them from some technicality.
Volvo has the longest track record of safety features for cars, they've been doing this for decades. They were focused on safety before safety become regulated. They invented three point seat belts, side impact protection systems, roll over protection systems, and consistently their cars have been rated the safest cars on the road.
Until Tesla came along. Sounds like sour grapes from the former makers of the safest cars in the world.
You must be using iTunes 10.7 still, like me. I don't know what I'm going to do if I ever but an iDevice that requires a newer version. That interface...
I have an idea, to avoid false alarms, we could require 2 more buttons instead of just one.
Years of doing end-user support has taught me that pressing two buttons at the same time is difficult for some people to do. And that's not even people in an emergency situation.
A well placed water balloon filled with paint, or spraypaint, would render it impossible to use the cameras. It would have to be protected from such low fi techniques somehow.
A well placed water balloon filled with paint, or spraypaint, would render a human guard impossible to use his eyes, too.
If the luxury apartments aren't being used, then the owners not getting any rental income. It's a bigger problem for them than it is for you.
The owners of the luxury apartments aren't making money, but they also have a place to live already. Worst case they can move into one of their own units. The people who can't find an affordable place to live needed it yesterday.
I don't think anyone said anything about constructing a new building...
Yeah, the summary did:
San Francisco will soon become one of the first major cities in the U.S. to require solar power on new buildings.
...but I don't think it's unlikely or unreasonable that some small businesses also own their own existing buildings. A lot of them use the second floor as their home, the first floor as the business.
Yes, and those are existing structures, which are not subject to this ordinance.
How many of those building permit applications were for affordable housing?
It doesn't matter. If they are all luxury condos, then the people moving into them are moving out of other housing. The supply of housing will still go up, and prices will then go down. Economics 101.
That's how it's supposed to work, but it's not really. Because those landlords in the units being moved out of don't want to admit their property is past prime and they need to lower their rent accordingly. So you end up with what I have in my hometown (a college town). Lots of under-inhabited luxury apartment buildings waiting for that student with parents with deep pockets that isn't going to come, and a population of local residents who can't find housing affordable for local wages (which are also being depressed by an influx of naive students who will work for cheap -- because they have outside financial backing or student loans keeping them in housing).
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There's streams about professional graham crackers?
There s'more info if you search Google.
As far as they are concerned, Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1 are competitors to Windows 10 which costs them more to maintain and with fewer monetization/expansion options, why would they do anything but encourage you to move to the new great future they believe they have created?
The features for adding telemetry to previous versions of Windows do not add any real customer-facing value. It only benefits Redmond.
After almost a year of "free upgrade offer" and "forced upgrades", Microsoft knows anyone not on 10 is taking proactive steps to stay there. If they get the telemetry added to the customer's previous version of Windows, well there's one less reason to stay on that version -- might as well upgrade to 10 and get the new features.
The fewer people using the older version of Windows, the easier it will be for Microsoft to hand-wave off having to support them, too. Remember how they pretty much had to offer to extend support for XP due to its popularity?
Microsoft is already is on the hook to support these (current) older versions of Windows for some time because of their own product lifecycles. They can try what they want with their "changeable EULAs" but suddenly shortening the support lifecycle for a software product purchased by a business sounds like a great way to get certain individuals phoning their state attorney generals.
Citation?
And did they add this 'spyware' after the releases of later operating systems?
We don't need to cite that data harvesting makes a company money. It's literally the business plan of several dot-coms.
As far as them adding the telemetry to earlier versions of Windows, it's common knowledge now.
http://techne.alaya.net/?p=124...
I have personally deselected and hidden these updates only to see them get un-hidden and added automatically as Recommended updates to download and install at a later date. I'd also like to note this had happened more than once with some of these individual updates, and it often happens when I get a large (15-30 updates) list at once from Microsoft. These large groups of updates are not "backed up" updates I have missed since last time. I have Windows Update run as a startup item when I log in to my computer, so I'm manually checking for updates every day on my PC. And every day I get an update for the Windows Defender definitions. But once in awhile I get a dozen or so "important" updates for Windows itself, and it's quite coincidental that one of the updates I had previously hidden is added into that list.
Seems like a orchestrated attempt to get me to install it. Stick it in a large list, and I'm more likely to just say "install all" than actually read the KBs for each or compare them to a list of known problem ones.
Tell me, if these updates are so harmless, why is Microsoft so vehement I install them after I tell them once I don't want them?
They'll probably double-down on re-enabling the "recommended" updates that add the spyware to previous versions of Windows.
Already got a Mac laptop. Have they developed a way to install OSX maintenance releases easily on a Hackintosh yet? Last time I checked it sounded like your system was whatever you built and you had to start over again if you wanted to update the OS.
Thanks for the info. Like the (great) grandparent poster I'm also in a position where I will be moving away from Windows for my next machine, but I was in the conundrum of 1) I like building my own computers vs. 2) I want to be able to keep using Photoshop.
Was looking I was going to have to just get a Mac and give up the home-built hobby, but this gives me hope.
Agreed. The 4 most influential gadgets have been:
* Wheel
* Gun
* Printing Press
* Computer
I'd like to note the irony of a magazine not mentioning the printing press anywhere on their list.
They would look far less stupid if they had simply limited the list to the last 50 years (which is where almost all their items come from).
It costs way more to keep them in jail rather than help them get back on their feet.
:O Helping people down on their luck? That's Commie talk!
Battery hen lives?
Sounds like a great password.
The new sensor could lead to smartphones that you can unlock by placing your finger on the phone screen.
And they couldn't put is someplace besides the one place people don't want extra fingerprints?
Ubuntu's not just for the developed world. There are many places where a 2 GB USB stick costs more than the average daily wage.
Wouldn't it make more sense to use a DVD-R in those cases?
Using a "com4" name, Windows considers the folder as being a device, meaning that the user cannot easily delete it. Given that Windows treats the folder "com4" folder differently, Windows Explorer or typical console commands are useless when attempting to delete it.
Couldn't I just boot up off a Linux disk, mount the Windows partition, and delete the folder that way? Linux isn't going to play along with this "oooo, let's pretend this directory is hardware" game.
I'm curious if we'll see new stand-alone TDD/TTY devices (that have a SIM slot instead of a phone jack on them), or perhaps wireless carriers will just do a web-based gateway service instead (log into your account on your carrier's website, enter a destination number, and once the connection is made type away in the input area).
Even if they *didn't* get sued I don't see this going anywhere. They've already tried this with CableCard, and except for TiVos and some in-TV setups there wasn't a big debut of third-party yes-you-own-it-outright equipment.
Then, there was supposed to be an entirely software-based version of the same thing. Never even got off the planning board.
Finally, presumably the company has deep pockets as well as a deep mind and can therefore be sued if they are negligent.
That means they also have equally deep pockets to defend themselves in court, or buy politicians to pass legislation so you can't sue them from some technicality.
Volvo has the longest track record of safety features for cars, they've been doing this for decades. They were focused on safety before safety become regulated. They invented three point seat belts, side impact protection systems, roll over protection systems, and consistently their cars have been rated the safest cars on the road.
Until Tesla came along.
Sounds like sour grapes from the former makers of the safest cars in the world.
You must be using iTunes 10.7 still, like me.
I don't know what I'm going to do if I ever but an iDevice that requires a newer version. That interface...
I just re-read your comment. Well done, mate!
Totally flew over my head what you were saying.
I have an idea, to avoid false alarms, we could require 2 more buttons instead of just one.
Years of doing end-user support has taught me that pressing two buttons at the same time is difficult for some people to do. And that's not even people in an emergency situation.
A well placed water balloon filled with paint, or spraypaint, would render it impossible to use the cameras. It would have to be protected from such low fi techniques somehow.
A well placed water balloon filled with paint, or spraypaint, would render a human guard impossible to use his eyes, too.
If the luxury apartments aren't being used, then the owners not getting any rental income. It's a bigger problem for them than it is for you.
The owners of the luxury apartments aren't making money, but they also have a place to live already. Worst case they can move into one of their own units. The people who can't find an affordable place to live needed it yesterday.
I don't think anyone said anything about constructing a new building...
Yeah, the summary did:
...but I don't think it's unlikely or unreasonable that some small businesses also own their own existing buildings. A lot of them use the second floor as their home, the first floor as the business.
Yes, and those are existing structures, which are not subject to this ordinance.
Maybe now, we can unlock the mysteries of Steins Gate! Mwahaha!
How many of those building permit applications were for affordable housing?
It doesn't matter. If they are all luxury condos, then the people moving into them are moving out of other housing. The supply of housing will still go up, and prices will then go down. Economics 101.
That's how it's supposed to work, but it's not really. Because those landlords in the units being moved out of don't want to admit their property is past prime and they need to lower their rent accordingly. So you end up with what I have in my hometown (a college town). Lots of under-inhabited luxury apartment buildings waiting for that student with parents with deep pockets that isn't going to come, and a population of local residents who can't find housing affordable for local wages (which are also being depressed by an influx of naive students who will work for cheap -- because they have outside financial backing or student loans keeping them in housing).
I've written software since the 70s. Never had a problem getting a job. In '08 I left a good company to join a startup, cuz I was young and stupid
Writing software for over 20 years? How old were you really in 2008?