Exactly, and this half-functionality is why this move undermines OpenID and what it stands for.
You see, OpenID still works, but it works *better* if you use Microsoft's version. Soon enough you'll find that everyone's reaching for those MS ids just to remain compatible, and MS will get what they couldn't with their Passport scheme, or LiveId or however it's called these days.
It's the same embrace, extend, extinguish bullshit again, and in my opinion, the community should just reject these MS-provided ids until they learn to play ball.
If I want to look at the internet, I like a big screen.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I'm bored, or I need to check something on Wikipedia, or I need to get the address of some store, sometimes I don't have my laptop, or it's inconvenient to use it at that time. For those times, my mobile will do (Opera Mini is great!).
If I want to take pictures, I want 10 megapixels.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I need to take a picture to show something to someone, or to make a joke on my blog, but didn't bring the digital camera along, the mobile camera will do. The quality isn't great (it sucks), but at least you can understand what it is, and I'm not taking important pictures with it (those are usualy planned and I bring the SLR).
If I want to send someone some words, I want a keyboard.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I need to send a text message or email to someone it's nice to have the possibility.
I like it that technology has brought many nice features to such a small form factor, and made it cheap. My mobile phone may not be a full computer or a SLR camera, but when I find myself in situations that require one of the above and I din't have them with me because I'm not carrying them everywhere, it's nice to have a device that can make do and that I always bring wherever I'm going.
Google did not market android to end users, just to phone developers.
That's not exactly true -- they marketted the OS to developers, specifically, those in the Open Source community.
While I agree with you that the openness of the OS can be undermined by the system builder (in this case, T-Mobile), Google must realize that people will associate the weaknesses of this specific device implementation with the OS, specially with it being the first one, and having been presented with such fanfare.
They probably do realize this, but I guess it must be hard to get a network operator to open up.
Google marketted the Android as fully open, no excuses.
Either you can install VoIP apps and they were being truthfull, or you can't and they were lying.
Besides, many people here are saying that VoIP wouldn't work over 3G anyway, but I seem to remember the phone supporting WiFi, and in any case, if the OS is trully open, it won't be trying to discriminate which applications use data connections over the mobile network.
Yep. Once I was thinking of buying a leather jacket, but was new in that city, so I didn't know any good leather stores.
Then one day on a road I saw this gigantic outdoor for a leather store with the company name on it and a pretty girl wearing some leather jacket.
I remember looking passing that sign some two or three times looking for a hidden address, url, phone, anything. Alas, I had to search for a leather store elsewhere.
To my mind, calling 1,024 bytes a 'kilobyte' was just about acceptable, since the difference wasn't so great and 'kilo' was a convenient shorthand. But calling 1,073,741,824 bytes a 'gigabyte' is really pushing it
It either is acceptable, or it isn't. Maybe you think that 73MB per 1GB is a lot, but I bet that 10 years ago you would've felt the same way about "losing" 5MB per every 100MB.
In any case, like the other poster said, everyone is using base-2 numbers. That is, except for storage drive manufacturers. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the original HDs were described in base-2 sizes, but as the computer exposion grew and the first manufacturer discovered this dirty little trick, the others followed suit in order to be competitive.
I agree with you on principle, that computer science remains consistent with the other fields, but on the other hand we should respect our history and the fact that having 2 standards is worse than having a single "wrong" one.
Finally, "kibibyte" just sounds wrong. Who came up with that word anyway? The guy who invented Hello kitty?
Something like this happened to me once when I fell roler blading and hit my head on the ground.
My short term memory was shot, and when I tried to remember events from that day I would get all kinds of weird, impossible recolections that I knew weren't real.
I think my brain couldn't access the short term memory, so it was replacing it with "garbage data" as you put it, probably being generated in the same way as my dreams are.
I guess you can say what you think, and I guess we can disagree on the interest of these stories.
I'm sorry if I came out as rude, that wasn't my intention. It's just that I don't think that the level of hate these stories are getting is warranted, and I wanted to voice a positive opinion on this.
You probably know that most people are pretty vocal while complaining, while silent when approving. I know I'm usually guilty of this, but as I read the threads here I noticed that the editors might get an idea that these features are universally hated, which I don't believe is the case.
And that brings me to the other problem. It kind of pisses me off that I'm reading the comments to participate in a discussion on the topic at hand, and instead I have to navigate pages upon pages of comments about how people think that idle doesn't belong on the front page, or how they can't disable it on the RSS.
I mean, if you don't like idle, why spend even more time there telling everyone how much you hate it?
1. Maybe a good reason to create an account, or learn to ignore it. 2. Learn to ignore it. 3. Learn to ignore it. BTW, I use slashdot on my mobile with Opera Mini with www.slashdot.org, simplified, but with full functionality (including respecting my filters). 4. It's a lighter side of slashdot. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but you might consider that some people might have other tastes.
Finally some sense (e.g. someone who agrees with me:-)
People who don't like idle should use the damn setting or learn to ignore it. Believe it or not, some of us still enjoy these articles.
BTW, the comparisson with the banning of violence and sex on or media because of the children is totally apt -- don't like it, don't use it, but don't ruin it for everyone else.
I really can't understand all the hate that idle gets on the comments. I mean, I think it's nice to have a lighter story from time to time, and I find it interesting to know what's happening with the creasy side of the slashdot readership (the crappy books and the boring emails). .
If you come here just for the serious news, you have your choice to remove the stories in your site preferences, or simply ignore the idle articles -- I'm sure you're not really wasting that much time reading one paragraph of an uninteresting story each one or two weeks. Hell, I ignore most stories in slashdot, and only focus on a few which interest me (I can usually tell if it's interesting just by reading the subject). .
Specially strange for me are the people who take the time to read the full text of the article and then drill down to the comments just to post some hate, but I guess that some people like to vent, and I guess this is as good a place as any, and I guess that idle.slashdot is an easy target (lots of other people also hating here).
Yeah I noticed I forgot the "Gr" part in my post, my bad.
Sorry about my keyboard mistake though. I only know the Portuguese and German layouts, and both have the euro symbol in the "e" key. I kind of assumed that all of the rest would have it there as well.
I don't know how many quids I paid, but I remember giving the lady euros and getting change back in coins that look funny when squished under a train.
But your point is taken. I'll reserve my judgement on british beer until I can get to one of those british pubs for some fish n' chips.
Oh, and I like some beer from the pressure tap. If someone offers you wheat beer from tap (any kind), though, ask for a glass of water because at that place they don't serve beer.
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(i don't really have a suicidegirls acc, i'm just using that as an example)
Sure you don't.
*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* say no more, say no more.
Exactly, and this half-functionality is why this move undermines OpenID and what it stands for.
You see, OpenID still works, but it works *better* if you use Microsoft's version. Soon enough you'll find that everyone's reaching for those MS ids just to remain compatible, and MS will get what they couldn't with their Passport scheme, or LiveId or however it's called these days.
It's the same embrace, extend, extinguish bullshit again, and in my opinion, the community should just reject these MS-provided ids until they learn to play ball.
Methinks you're behind on your software versions: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v16290942FhfBbDSy
Have it paint my girlfriend and buy me a house and I'm sold.
YOU BASTARD!
I'm probably in the minority, but...
If I want to look at the internet, I like a big screen.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I'm bored, or I need to check something on Wikipedia, or I need to get the address of some store, sometimes I don't have my laptop, or it's inconvenient to use it at that time.
For those times, my mobile will do (Opera Mini is great!).
If I want to take pictures, I want 10 megapixels.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I need to take a picture to show something to someone, or to make a joke on my blog, but didn't bring the digital camera along, the mobile camera will do.
The quality isn't great (it sucks), but at least you can understand what it is, and I'm not taking important pictures with it (those are usualy planned and I bring the SLR).
If I want to send someone some words, I want a keyboard.
Me too, but when I'm on the road and I need to send a text message or email to someone it's nice to have the possibility.
I like it that technology has brought many nice features to such a small form factor, and made it cheap. My mobile phone may not be a full computer or a SLR camera, but when I find myself in situations that require one of the above and I din't have them with me because I'm not carrying them everywhere, it's nice to have a device that can make do and that I always bring wherever I'm going.
Maybe they're felling the pressure of Gnash biting at their heels.
Google did not market android to end users, just to phone developers.
That's not exactly true -- they marketted the OS to developers, specifically, those in the Open Source community.
While I agree with you that the openness of the OS can be undermined by the system builder (in this case, T-Mobile), Google must realize that people will associate the weaknesses of this specific device implementation with the OS, specially with it being the first one, and having been presented with such fanfare.
They probably do realize this, but I guess it must be hard to get a network operator to open up.
Google marketted the Android as fully open, no excuses.
Either you can install VoIP apps and they were being truthfull, or you can't and they were lying.
Besides, many people here are saying that VoIP wouldn't work over 3G anyway, but I seem to remember the phone supporting WiFi, and in any case, if the OS is trully open, it won't be trying to discriminate which applications use data connections over the mobile network.
I be kind of torn. On the one claw, ninjas be more stilish and sneaky. On the other claw, pirates be more hearty, and on top 'o that, they drink grog.
Lots and lots of it.
Harrrrr!
Yep.
Once I was thinking of buying a leather jacket, but was new in that city, so I didn't know any good leather stores.
Then one day on a road I saw this gigantic outdoor for a leather store with the company name on it and a pretty girl wearing some leather jacket.
I remember looking passing that sign some two or three times looking for a hidden address, url, phone, anything. Alas, I had to search for a leather store elsewhere.
Hmm.
I was nitpicking on the parent's use of the "free as in beer" qualifier.
If you don't use the "beer/speech" distinction, that's fine, but if you do use it, I suppose you should try to use it properly.
So, uh, thanks for your thoughts anyway, I guess.
If the source is available, it should be "free as in freedom", right?
"Free as in beer" is for when you don't have to pay for it, like iTunes.
To my mind, calling 1,024 bytes a 'kilobyte' was just about acceptable, since the difference wasn't so great and 'kilo' was a convenient shorthand. But calling 1,073,741,824 bytes a 'gigabyte' is really pushing it
It either is acceptable, or it isn't. Maybe you think that 73MB per 1GB is a lot, but I bet that 10 years ago you would've felt the same way about "losing" 5MB per every 100MB.
In any case, like the other poster said, everyone is using base-2 numbers. That is, except for storage drive manufacturers. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the original HDs were described in base-2 sizes, but as the computer exposion grew and the first manufacturer discovered this dirty little trick, the others followed suit in order to be competitive.
I agree with you on principle, that computer science remains consistent with the other fields, but on the other hand we should respect our history and the fact that having 2 standards is worse than having a single "wrong" one.
Finally, "kibibyte" just sounds wrong. Who came up with that word anyway? The guy who invented Hello kitty?
Something like this happened to me once when I fell roler blading and hit my head on the ground.
My short term memory was shot, and when I tried to remember events from that day I would get all kinds of weird, impossible recolections that I knew weren't real.
I think my brain couldn't access the short term memory, so it was replacing it with "garbage data" as you put it, probably being generated in the same way as my dreams are.
I think I've seen it available at least at amazon.de.
That probably doesn't help you a lot, but at least now you know they're selling them somewhere* :-)
*albeit with the euro-ripoff-tax.
I guess you can say what you think, and I guess we can disagree on the interest of these stories.
I'm sorry if I came out as rude, that wasn't my intention. It's just that I don't think that the level of hate these stories are getting is warranted, and I wanted to voice a positive opinion on this.
You probably know that most people are pretty vocal while complaining, while silent when approving. I know I'm usually guilty of this, but as I read the threads here I noticed that the editors might get an idea that these features are universally hated, which I don't believe is the case.
And that brings me to the other problem. It kind of pisses me off that I'm reading the comments to participate in a discussion on the topic at hand, and instead I have to navigate pages upon pages of comments about how people think that idle doesn't belong on the front page, or how they can't disable it on the RSS.
I mean, if you don't like idle, why spend even more time there telling everyone how much you hate it?
1. Maybe a good reason to create an account, or learn to ignore it.
2. Learn to ignore it.
3. Learn to ignore it. BTW, I use slashdot on my mobile with Opera Mini with www.slashdot.org, simplified, but with full functionality (including respecting my filters).
4. It's a lighter side of slashdot. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but you might consider that some people might have other tastes.
Then ignore it.
Or do you have to have a setting for everything in life?
Finally some sense (e.g. someone who agrees with me :-)
People who don't like idle should use the damn setting or learn to ignore it.
Believe it or not, some of us still enjoy these articles.
BTW, the comparisson with the banning of violence and sex on or media because of the children is totally apt -- don't like it, don't use it, but don't ruin it for everyone else.
I really can't understand all the hate that idle gets on the comments.
I mean, I think it's nice to have a lighter story from time to time, and I find it interesting to know what's happening with the creasy side of the slashdot readership (the crappy books and the boring emails).
.
If you come here just for the serious news, you have your choice to remove the stories in your site preferences, or simply ignore the idle articles -- I'm sure you're not really wasting that much time reading one paragraph of an uninteresting story each one or two weeks.
Hell, I ignore most stories in slashdot, and only focus on a few which interest me (I can usually tell if it's interesting just by reading the subject).
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Specially strange for me are the people who take the time to read the full text of the article and then drill down to the comments just to post some hate, but I guess that some people like to vent, and I guess this is as good a place as any, and I guess that idle.slashdot is an easy target (lots of other people also hating here).
Yeah I noticed I forgot the "Gr" part in my post, my bad.
Sorry about my keyboard mistake though. I only know the Portuguese and German layouts, and both have the euro symbol in the "e" key. I kind of assumed that all of the rest would have it there as well.
In Europe, press Alt, then E.
It was removed temporarily:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-apis-removed-in.html
I don't know how many quids I paid, but I remember giving the lady euros and getting change back in coins that look funny when squished under a train.
But your point is taken. I'll reserve my judgement on british beer until I can get to one of those british pubs for some fish n' chips.
Oh, and I like some beer from the pressure tap. If someone offers you wheat beer from tap (any kind), though, ask for a glass of water because at that place they don't serve beer.