I amazed at the number of times this post or similar has appeared on this story...it's stupid.
The world isn't tied to a narrative...Just because 3 things happened in sequence somewhere once does not mean that if the first 2 things appear to happen somewhere else, that the 3rd one will happen again.
People need to look at each situation in it's own light. Learn from the past, but do not think the past is doomed to repeat itself....that's the worst type of simplistic thinking.
There _are_ _no_ _bad_ _guys_ I know you think you're being funny...but it's disturbing how many people have to polarize this issue.
JBoss have noticed some things they're concerned about, they sent ASF a letter saying they're concerned. ASF are taking it seriously, and making sure that the issues are sorted out. ASF don't want JBoss's code any more than JBoss wants them to have it. It's a good thing that this has happened, as it gives them a chance to cooperate on reaching their individual licensing goals, and it shows the world that licensing issues can be quickly and cleanly sorted out in the Open Source world.
I think that a "She'll be right mate" sort of mentality is the way people shuld be. Nothing is or ever will be perfect...and the more people that accept that, the less uptight, petty, bitchy people there are in the world....which can only be a good thing:)
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive for perfection....just that we should be understanding when it doesn't happen - especially when others have things far less perfect than we do.
Personally I think that even the worst cases of half arsedness you can think of in Australia or New Zealand are probably actually far less bloody awful than what the rest of the world has convinced themselves is the best they're going to get.
As the telstra guy above said...we may not have it perfect, but at least it's usualy mostly acceptable.
BTW, name one city in the world where the residents think their public transport runs on time....
You know, there were a lot more setlers in Australia than the convicts, both early on and in recent times... large ammounts of non convict Irish, lots of Chinese, and after WW2, a massive flood of Europeans, due to the government at the time deciding that the best way to defend a country, is to have some sort of population....and offered incentives for people to migrate.
So chances are pretty high that any Australian you meet does not actually have a convict in there past. And even if they did, it's a bit of stretch to say that a criminal disposition is genetic. Especially since a lot of the convicts were just poor people convicted for petty theft.
I'm a Kiwi myself, but I still think a comment like that is more than a little ignorant and unfair.
I think what they meant was "yes the definitions you showed us show that tomatoes are fruit, but everyone knows the real definition is fruit are sweet, so thats the one we'll use"
That's why I said groups of groups would be an improvement...
But I don't like the complexity of inherited permisions, plus the ability to assign arbitary people arbiatary permissions to files. that's something that might seem nice in the odd time when you might think you need it, but using it will in the long term leave a mess - especially in your 10,000 person corporation example. Of course any sensible administrator would only use the groups, but that assumes that all your administrators are sensible (which in a 10,000 person company is probably not true), or you have extremely tight control of things....
X is just a bad movie....really bad...no redeming features...
Ghost in the Shell was pretty good..., and I could probably watch Akira again now....It was my first Anime experience, and left me a little bewildered;)
And when will this PVR record?...while you're playing games?...and who's watching TV these days anyway?...
I'm not against multi function devices - the DVD player was a bonus for me with the PS2, we bought ours at launch time, and still use it as a DVD player (didn't even bother buying the XBox DVD remote)....
but PVR is not a feature I'll be looking for......
If the one guy writing a game all by himself in the "good old days", having to divide his attention between graphics, gameplay, story, and sound, can make a game that is suposedly so much better than todays games...
then surely a game that has at least 1 whole person looking at story and gameplay aspects must be able to produce a good game _regardless_ of how many hundred people are doing the graphics.
> Not to mention that the permission system in Windows is much more finely grained than it is in Unix. If you want to allow someone to write to the font directory, you can do it without granting SuperUser access.
you can do that in a Unix system too..just create a group called "fonts" and make the directory group owned by it, and those users that you want to allow to write to it members of that group.
it's far too easy to get a complete mess with windows ACLS....and it's much harder to understand the whole picture, and fix a problem when it exists.
About the only improvements I would want for the unix permission system, is maybe groups of groups, and outside the filesystem space, a few arbitary root only things made configurable (like listening on a port below 1000)
The other thing is that the job description of a "Sysadmin" varies from company to company...
In some companies, they are the afforementioned janitors/shit kickers, who can barely be trusted to change a backup tape. But in others, they're the one who makes all the IT Infrastructure descisions, manages the security, purchaces new harware...pretty much everything IT related that the programmers don't do.....
However, sooner or later the company reaches a point where the latter type of Sysadmin learns to start calling himself "IT Infrastructure Manager" or something similar
> The ASDL is NOT true open source, it is a disclosure out of public image and necessity due to the ripped off BSD and MACH technologies
that's not really true at all you know...the BSD license pretty much lets you do what you want with the code, there's no requirement to open derivative works.
The other thing I've never understood is the whole "Information Overload" thing.
all this "data" floating around in the world doesn't go jumping up in your face yelling "I'm data, assimilate me!" you have to look for it.
so if you're getting overwhelmed by information, it's because you keep looking for the bloody stuff, and probably with badly designed queries. People would save themselves some pain if they figured out how to make better use of tools available so that they only had to deal with relevant data.
if you're talking about data and film, then microfilm and microfiche is probably what is meant.
It's kind of bizarre the way that digital media is replacing these two technologies for archival purposes...since no one knows if they'll still be able to read digital media in even 20 years, but with microfiche, as long as you can magnify light, you can get the data.
However, who am I to complain? people pay us to make microfiche...people pay us to write CDs....some people even pay us to scan the microfiche we produced for them years ago, and put it on CDs.
An act of terrorism is something that strikes fear into the heart of a nation or people ("terror"ism), usually for the purpose of bringing world attention to an issue - it's also not usualy an attack on important ifrastructure, or a military target.
Blowing up a cafe, a night club, or an office block for attention is Terrorism.
What you are describing could at most, be described as annoyism.
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I amazed at the number of times this post or similar has appeared on this story...it's stupid.
The world isn't tied to a narrative...Just because 3 things happened in sequence somewhere once does not mean that if the first 2 things appear to happen somewhere else, that the 3rd one will happen again.
People need to look at each situation in it's own light. Learn from the past, but do not think the past is doomed to repeat itself....that's the worst type of simplistic thinking.
There _are_ _no_ _bad_ _guys_ I know you think you're being funny...but it's disturbing how many people have to polarize this issue.
JBoss have noticed some things they're concerned about, they sent ASF a letter saying they're concerned. ASF are taking it seriously, and making sure that the issues are sorted out.
ASF don't want JBoss's code any more than JBoss wants them to have it.
It's a good thing that this has happened, as it gives them a chance to cooperate on reaching their individual licensing goals, and it shows the world that licensing issues can be quickly and cleanly sorted out in the Open Source world.
because that's what mr Moore actually said
Well, it wasn't really meant to be humour...
:)
I think that a "She'll be right mate" sort of mentality is the way people shuld be. Nothing is or ever will be perfect...and the more people that accept that, the less uptight, petty, bitchy people there are in the world....which can only be a good thing
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive for perfection....just that we should be understanding when it doesn't happen - especially when others have things far less perfect than we do.
Only if your stupid enough to throw a stick and think you can just walk away...
Personally I think that even the worst cases of half arsedness you can think of in Australia or New Zealand are probably actually far less bloody awful than what the rest of the world has convinced themselves is the best they're going to get.
As the telstra guy above said...we may not have it perfect, but at least it's usualy mostly acceptable.
BTW, name one city in the world where the residents think their public transport runs on time....
You know, there were a lot more setlers in Australia than the convicts, both early on and in recent times...
large ammounts of non convict Irish, lots of Chinese, and after WW2, a massive flood of Europeans, due to the government at the time deciding that the best way to defend a country, is to have some sort of population....and offered incentives for people to migrate.
So chances are pretty high that any Australian you meet does not actually have a convict in there past.
And even if they did, it's a bit of stretch to say that a criminal disposition is genetic.
Especially since a lot of the convicts were just poor people convicted for petty theft.
I'm a Kiwi myself, but I still think a comment like that is more than a little ignorant and unfair.
OK, now that IHBT, I will HAND.
I think what they meant was "yes the definitions you showed us show that tomatoes are fruit, but everyone knows the real definition is fruit are sweet, so thats the one we'll use"
That's why I said groups of groups would be an improvement...
But I don't like the complexity of inherited permisions, plus the ability to assign arbitary people arbiatary permissions to files. that's something that might seem nice in the odd time when you might think you need it, but using it will in the long term leave a mess - especially in your 10,000 person corporation example.
Of course any sensible administrator would only use the groups, but that assumes that all your administrators are sensible (which in a 10,000 person company is probably not true), or you have extremely tight control of things....
X is just a bad movie....really bad...no redeming features...
;)
Ghost in the Shell was pretty good..., and I could probably watch Akira again now....It was my first Anime experience, and left me a little bewildered
does anyone know if he can read at all?
> why not use all that space for PVR features?
And when will this PVR record?...while you're playing games?...and who's watching TV these days anyway?...
I'm not against multi function devices - the DVD player was a bonus for me with the PS2, we bought ours at launch time, and still use it as a DVD player (didn't even bother buying the XBox DVD remote)....
but PVR is not a feature I'll be looking for......
doesn't look like it...
Here's a thought...
If the one guy writing a game all by himself in the "good old days", having to divide his attention between graphics, gameplay, story, and sound, can make a game that is suposedly so much better than todays games...
then surely a game that has at least 1 whole person looking at story and gameplay aspects must be able to produce a good game _regardless_ of how many hundred people are doing the graphics.
it's that stupid one dimensional thinking again
a does not imply !b
> Not to mention that the permission system in Windows is much more finely grained than it is in Unix. If you want to allow someone to write to the font directory, you can do it without granting SuperUser access.
you can do that in a Unix system too..just create a group called "fonts" and make the directory group owned by it, and those users that you want to allow to write to it members of that group.
it's far too easy to get a complete mess with windows ACLS....and it's much harder to understand the whole picture, and fix a problem when it exists.
About the only improvements I would want for the unix permission system, is maybe groups of groups, and outside the filesystem space, a few arbitary root only things made configurable (like listening on a port below 1000)
The other thing is that the job description of a "Sysadmin" varies from company to company...
In some companies, they are the afforementioned janitors/shit kickers, who can barely be trusted to change a backup tape. But in others, they're the one who makes all the IT Infrastructure descisions, manages the security, purchaces new harware...pretty much everything IT related that the programmers don't do.....
However, sooner or later the company reaches a point where the latter type of Sysadmin learns to start calling himself "IT Infrastructure Manager" or something similar
> The ASDL is NOT true open source, it is a disclosure out of public image and necessity due to the ripped off BSD and MACH technologies
that's not really true at all you know...the BSD license pretty much lets you do what you want with the code, there's no requirement to open derivative works.
But it won't be.
The _copies_ of it sent to people may be designed to self destruct, but the original is permanent.
The other thing I've never understood is the whole "Information Overload" thing.
all this "data" floating around in the world doesn't go jumping up in your face yelling "I'm data, assimilate me!" you have to look for it.
so if you're getting overwhelmed by information, it's because you keep looking for the bloody stuff, and probably with badly designed queries. People would save themselves some pain if they figured out how to make better use of tools available so that they only had to deal with relevant data.
if you're talking about data and film, then microfilm and microfiche is probably what is meant.
It's kind of bizarre the way that digital media is replacing these two technologies for archival purposes...since no one knows if they'll still be able to read digital media in even 20 years, but with microfiche, as long as you can magnify light, you can get the data.
However, who am I to complain? people pay us to make microfiche...people pay us to write CDs....some people even pay us to scan the microfiche we produced for them years ago, and put it on CDs.
No, you obviously don't get it, if you think that was the joke....
you know what's truly amazing?
the number of people on the planet with such one dimensional thinking.....
it's truly disturbing.
You do realize, that apart from black and white, there are also an infinite number of shades of grey, and even colours!
In the real world "A" does not imply "!B"
you CAN have both.
you know, there's nothing wrong with _having_ a monopoly, it's how you behave once you have one that's the issue
But which one strikes the most TERROR into people?
Like the garndparent poster said, spamming is bad, but it's not terrorsim.
Terrorism is bad, but it doesn't follow that anything that is bad (even stuff that is as bad as, or worse than terrorism) is terrorism.
An act of terrorism is something that strikes fear into the heart of a nation or people ("terror"ism), usually for the purpose of bringing world attention to an issue - it's also not usualy an attack on important ifrastructure, or a military target.
Blowing up a cafe, a night club, or an office block for attention is Terrorism.
What you are describing could at most, be described as annoyism.