There is no way I'm going to shell out money for anti virus software for my macs when there is currently no real risk to me.
I won't waste my CPU cycles, time and money on a virtually non-existant problem for the sake of protecting stupid Windows users. If they get infected that's their fault - if they choose to use a plagued OS, then they should be responsible for the potential reprocussions.
For the time being, all I have to do is run in a non root account, behind a firewall and only download files from trusted sources and don't enter my password when I double click a jpeg. That and keep an eye out on the mac community web forums and news sites for any new (real) threats - the recent (broken) bonjour/ichat proof-of-concept trojan is of no real concern.
If the tiime comes when REAL virii start to infect OSX, non admin/root accounts without any user interaction (social engineering) then I'll consider anti virus software.
But I'm not wasting my time protecting windows users from their os.
How many people in real life have gotten an actual honest-to-goodness virus on Mac OS 10.0-10.4 in the wild and have lost data or had their machine turned into a zombie (with no interaction on their part such as typing in their password when double clicking a jpeg or something)?
The answer: 0
Nothing to see here, move along.
As it currently stands, the only way to become infected by an actual Virus (not a trojan or malware) on a Mac is by running windows in boot camp - although it won't likely harm the OSX partition.
Slow news day = OMG teh Mac viruses are coming1111 oh noes look out11!
Maybe iIt could happen someday. But it is not an issue now. And if it does, it will be nothing compared to windows' problems.
Mostly, this is simply windows users' "sour grapes" to using OSX
Linux community? We already established in a previous article that lunux users are socially inept, condecending, RTFM assholes.
Linux users aren't helpful - they are only intrested in pointing out how it's not linux's fault that it sucks as a desktop. It's the fault of n00b users and win-modems and so-forth.
The Mac community is the best. Helpful, friendly people giving good advice that actually makes things work when and if they don't out-of-the-box.
Anyone who thinks there is something you can't do with the ipod simply doesn't know all the facts.
Using the tools apple provides (and there are more there than the average person realizes) and/or using hundreds freeware options, you can do anything you can imagine with it.
Go ahead, wallow in ignorance and complain about what you do not understand while I laugh at your sad attempts to "dis" it.
Apple is not pretending to be a caring, loving company.
They are a company selling great products and that has good customer service.
Why must you project your insanity?
What the hell are you talking about tpgp? Use the ipod as a hard drive you fool. (Preferences: enable disc use checkbox).
I'm and Apple customer, not the AIAA. I've used their computers for 12+ years.
Most mammals groom themselves or one-another. Look at cats and monkeys. The fact that we use metal tools and fabrics is no different. We aren't born with sandals and pony tails either (nor pachouli oil).
If someone can't be bothered with simple grooming and looking presentable... why should I believe that person would bother doing a good job with their work.
How you look says a lot about what you do with your time (or don't do).
When I see a lazily, sloppily dressed person, that is an indication of their personality.
You should be able to spend time on your appearance AND your work. If you skimp on one, I'd bet you skimp on the other.
When you dress like a lazy bum, it is reasonable to suspect you work like a lazy bum.
It is a fair and accurate conclusion. I know plenty of hippy dressers and they all fit that mold.
Pony tails on men are ugly, dated and lame. If you have long hair, wear it long. If you can't have long hair, a pony tail doesn't make it look clean cut. It looks like a ratty, cheesy pony tail. The only thing worse than a man's pony tail is dreadlocks (gross).
Sandals are for the beach and the park. Men shouldn't wear sandals in public places and certainly not in an office. Who wants to see those nasty feet, much less smell them. The only thing worse than seeing a man's feet is seeing his "junk". Men's feet are disgusting to look at. Cover that shit up.
As for linux.. it is worthless as a desktop and I would never, ever use it as a file-server. A web-server or router at best. But as a workstation... forget it.
Please explain why your little opinion matters to anyone else. Please explain why games matter to annyone but children. Please explain why having linux on a PC is a good thing. Please understand your windows PC is not "faster than any mac" under every circumstance. Clearly you thinlk games are all that matter. Professional media content creators would strongly disagree.
"They scream about not needing stuff like PMT, Protected Memory, SMP support, PCI, AGP, USB"
Please show where Apple ever, EVER "screamed" against any of these technologies. They were one of the first with USB. They've had PCI forever as well as AGP. PMT, SMP came with OSX 1.0.
What the hell are you talking about?!
"But then Linux for the desktop will hopefully be awesome."
Not going to happen.
Keep linux running servers where it belongs.
OSX is your awesome *nix desktop, soon with triple booting boxes (if you actually wanted to booth those other OSes).
Wow! Anyone who would choose linux over a free OSX should be kicked in the nads and hard. What total ass-hats to reject it over some stupid open-source ego. This is bad for the kids to have to use friggin linux as a desktop. Unbelievable!
Obviously you want people to flame you for spelling Mac in all caps when everyone knows MAC is something different.
And, you want people to flame you because you can right click with a 2 button mouse on a mac or control click with a single button, and of course you can't loose data from 'not being able to' use a contextual menu.
Sigh.... So many kids think everything should be free. The cuture of entitlement is disgusting.
How are performers supposed to pay for food and shelter?
They deserve to be paid.
As far as linux being free, pfft...you get what you pay for (a virtually useless desktop environment for anyone who needs to actually *produce* something on a daily basis).
And people who do nothing but develop free software will soon learn they cant pay their bills and will end up living in a box. Or, they will get smart and realize they should be paid for their efforts if others find it usefull and gain from its useage.
Only kids living in their parents basements think everything should be free cause they've never worked a day in their life and mooch of their folks or society.
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Based on your post, I'd have to say that you are the dick... and an ignorant one to boot.
I won't waste my CPU cycles, time and money on a virtually non-existant problem for the sake of protecting stupid Windows users. If they get infected that's their fault - if they choose to use a plagued OS, then they should be responsible for the potential reprocussions.
For the time being, all I have to do is run in a non root account, behind a firewall and only download files from trusted sources and don't enter my password when I double click a jpeg. That and keep an eye out on the mac community web forums and news sites for any new (real) threats - the recent (broken) bonjour/ichat proof-of-concept trojan is of no real concern.
If the tiime comes when REAL virii start to infect OSX, non admin/root accounts without any user interaction (social engineering) then I'll consider anti virus software.
But I'm not wasting my time protecting windows users from their os.
How many people in real life have gotten an actual honest-to-goodness virus on Mac OS 10.0-10.4 in the wild and have lost data or had their machine turned into a zombie (with no interaction on their part such as typing in their password when double clicking a jpeg or something)? The answer: 0 Nothing to see here, move along. As it currently stands, the only way to become infected by an actual Virus (not a trojan or malware) on a Mac is by running windows in boot camp - although it won't likely harm the OSX partition. Slow news day = OMG teh Mac viruses are coming1111 oh noes look out11! Maybe iIt could happen someday. But it is not an issue now. And if it does, it will be nothing compared to windows' problems. Mostly, this is simply windows users' "sour grapes" to using OSX
Linux community? We already established in a previous article that lunux users are socially inept, condecending, RTFM assholes.
Linux users aren't helpful - they are only intrested in pointing out how it's not linux's fault that it sucks as a desktop. It's the fault of n00b users and win-modems and so-forth.
The Mac community is the best. Helpful, friendly people giving good advice that actually makes things work when and if they don't out-of-the-box.
Not insightful - this is a troll and flamebait. It's a revision A product and Apple is replacing problem units. This slam is rediculous.
I for one welcome our new Pretty Pony overlords.
Anyone who thinks there is something you can't do with the ipod simply doesn't know all the facts. Using the tools apple provides (and there are more there than the average person realizes) and/or using hundreds freeware options, you can do anything you can imagine with it. Go ahead, wallow in ignorance and complain about what you do not understand while I laugh at your sad attempts to "dis" it.
Apple is not pretending to be a caring, loving company. They are a company selling great products and that has good customer service. Why must you project your insanity?
What the hell are you talking about tpgp? Use the ipod as a hard drive you fool. (Preferences: enable disc use checkbox). I'm and Apple customer, not the AIAA. I've used their computers for 12+ years.
Most mammals groom themselves or one-another. Look at cats and monkeys. The fact that we use metal tools and fabrics is no different. We aren't born with sandals and pony tails either (nor pachouli oil).
So is it okay for your girlfriend to not shave her legs, pussy and armpits?
The real question is: Why would an employeer want to hire someone that dresses like a child?
If someone can't be bothered with simple grooming and looking presentable... why should I believe that person would bother doing a good job with their work. How you look says a lot about what you do with your time (or don't do). When I see a lazily, sloppily dressed person, that is an indication of their personality. You should be able to spend time on your appearance AND your work. If you skimp on one, I'd bet you skimp on the other. When you dress like a lazy bum, it is reasonable to suspect you work like a lazy bum. It is a fair and accurate conclusion. I know plenty of hippy dressers and they all fit that mold.
Pony tails on men are ugly, dated and lame. If you have long hair, wear it long. If you can't have long hair, a pony tail doesn't make it look clean cut. It looks like a ratty, cheesy pony tail. The only thing worse than a man's pony tail is dreadlocks (gross).
Sandals are for the beach and the park. Men shouldn't wear sandals in public places and certainly not in an office. Who wants to see those nasty feet, much less smell them. The only thing worse than seeing a man's feet is seeing his "junk". Men's feet are disgusting to look at. Cover that shit up.
As for linux.. it is worthless as a desktop and I would never, ever use it as a file-server. A web-server or router at best. But as a workstation... forget it.
Please explain why your little opinion matters to anyone else. Please explain why games matter to annyone but children. Please explain why having linux on a PC is a good thing. Please understand your windows PC is not "faster than any mac" under every circumstance. Clearly you thinlk games are all that matter. Professional media content creators would strongly disagree.
"They scream about not needing stuff like PMT, Protected Memory, SMP support, PCI, AGP, USB" Please show where Apple ever, EVER "screamed" against any of these technologies. They were one of the first with USB. They've had PCI forever as well as AGP. PMT, SMP came with OSX 1.0. What the hell are you talking about?!
Lets see you build a macbook pro yourself.
"But then Linux for the desktop will hopefully be awesome." Not going to happen. Keep linux running servers where it belongs. OSX is your awesome *nix desktop, soon with triple booting boxes (if you actually wanted to booth those other OSes).
Wow! Anyone who would choose linux over a free OSX should be kicked in the nads and hard. What total ass-hats to reject it over some stupid open-source ego. This is bad for the kids to have to use friggin linux as a desktop. Unbelievable!
Loakers? Who is that?
Nobody.
So are you saying Microsoft doesn't copy Apple?
You are a liar and/or a troll.
Obviously you want people to flame you for spelling Mac in all caps when everyone knows MAC is something different.
And, you want people to flame you because you can right click with a 2 button mouse on a mac or control click with a single button, and of course you can't loose data from 'not being able to' use a contextual menu.
Please...
Sigh.... So many kids think everything should be free. The cuture of entitlement is disgusting.
How are performers supposed to pay for food and shelter?
They deserve to be paid.
As far as linux being free, pfft...you get what you pay for (a virtually useless desktop environment for anyone who needs to actually *produce* something on a daily basis).
And people who do nothing but develop free software will soon learn they cant pay their bills and will end up living in a box. Or, they will get smart and realize they should be paid for their efforts if others find it usefull and gain from its useage.
Only kids living in their parents basements think everything should be free cause they've never worked a day in their life and mooch of their folks or society.
Moochers never prosper.
'The point is, if Apple was a pure hardware company, software updates/upgrades would be free. But it's not.'
This comment is the dumbest thing I've ever read on slashdot.
Who cares how fast it boots. It is ugly as sin. Just like every Windows and lookalike nix desktop. So 1990's-ish.