It's good to see the nsa finally get spanked. They've been screwing over the american people for years now. Although, I seriously doubt congress will get anything out of the nsa. They operate in absolute, so I don't think congress will be able to get the nsa's info, no matter how many bills and laws they pass.
Why shouldn't someone sell a company if they so choose? If you build it up and put the work, then you have the right to benefit from it and to do what you see fit with your company. Another thing: if someone sells a company to a big corporation, why would the person care if people stop using the program? They just walked away with a nice bankroll, users or no users.
Would you respect me if you came home one day and found me walking around your house browing through your underwear while playing your barry manilow records? Or would you call the cops and have me hauled away? More likely, you would want me out of your damn house. Sure, you'd get better bolts for your door and maybe put up some bars and be more secure in the end. But, the fact still remains that I trespassed onto your property and looked through your belongings without permission.
I have no respect for people who break into sites without permission, whether they damage things or not. I DO, however, respect those who do it with permission on another system or locally on their own system. It takes quite a bit of brains to figure out ways around complex security measures. There are legal and ethical ways to breach the security of programs. (That is, until some misguided piece of legislation tramples that right.)
Mind you, I'm not preaching security through obscurity. I'm just saying that breaking into a system without permission is inethical, regardless of intentions. Who knows? Maybe I walked into your house to rearrange your furniture and fix your toaster. You don't know that, however. Therefore, you feel threatened by my presense and will presumably call authorities to haul me off elsewhere.
Yeah. Damn those newbies who aren't trained computer techs. Who the hell are they to be using a computer if they don't know the zen of all that is the modem! Damn newbies.
I'm sure linux is high and mighty on a 486dx2-66, but who runs a serious web server on a machine like that? Is it so hard for people to admit that linux might actually be beaten on high end hardware? Yes, I know that smp and other such high end goodies are being matured, but what about right now? Personally, I don't give a damn how well linux runs on 486s and below. They've long since been obsolete on anything serious.
I find it odd that so many linux users complain about fud directed towards linux, then go around and spread this kind of nonsense. I get 1mb/s at work easily between 2 win95 machines, both with 10mb cards with no noticable cpu overhead at all.
I'm not so sure people would really pay much attention to turing's advances in computing theory. Try to get the averge joe off the street interested in neural networks and see what happens. Just as I'm sure most slashdot readers don't pay much attention to archeological findings, most non slashdot types wouldn't give much feeling towards alan turing. (note my use of 'most' and not 'all')
It's not the computers that are permanent, it's the knowledge gained from using them at an early age. The same way kids can learn more than 1 language easily while growing up could be used for computers. If children grow up around computers and learn that mode of communication, it would eliminate alot of the "techno-fear" that seems to grip many adults these days. Sure a statue would let people know who alan turing is, but I doubt many people would care. They just want to go home to their tvs and watch the latest episode of the simpsons.
Kids are just masses of equal parts energy and curiosity; if you give them something, they'll have it played with, torn apart, and figured out faster than you can imagine. I think if computers are put forth in a responsible fashion (ie. adult supervision without setting ultra totalitarian rules) would open up a world of possibilities.
This is a waste of money that could be much better spent on buying computers for kids and advancing areas that Turing researched. Since I have no idea what exchange rates are, just figure 1 us dollar for every 1 british pound, totaling US$55k. At $500 per computer (they are very cheap nowadays), that's 110 computers. Which would advance society or Turing's ideas more: a bigass motionless statue of some guy no one outside of scientific and computer circles know or 110 computers put into good use by curious young minds?
Read what I said... It's much too impersonal *to me*, all absolutes and nothing much of beauty in it...
To ME. I do read lots of philosophy, mostly dealing with ethics and morality, however, not AI or mathematics. I carefully stated my opinion that way because I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Before you say anything, yes I have tried out mathematics; I've toyed with it and just didn't find it interesting or worth delving into more.
The reason I got the book is because I heard everyone raving over how great it was and I could become impotent of I didn't read it, etc.
Sounds like the netware 3.0 server here. 366 days uptime. It's been up longer than I've worked here. And in a sickly ironic turn of events, it's being taken down and replaced with nt in about a week.
I read this book a couple of years ago and excuse my ignorant heathen-ness, but I didn't like it. Partly because, like he says, I didn't know what the hell it was supposed to be about. And partly because I despise math with a hatred unseen by mortal eyes. It's much too impersonal to me, all absolutes and nothing much of beauty in it. I know enough math to get through life and that's all I feel I need. But, back to the book. Overall, I didn't enjoy it mostly because of the constant references to mathematics.
Perhaps I'm the only one who was either too ignorant to get it or the only one who's not trying to sound intellectual by saying I got it. Who knows.
P.S. - If you find The Mind's I, by Douglas Hofstadter and Daniel Dennett, GET IT. It's a wonderful book. Greatly entertaining book, especially for the philosophy genre.
One thing no one seems to have thought of.. who wants to start a betting pool of when the first lawsuit will be filed? I got 10 bucks on 2 weeks from today. Lawsuits are as american as mom, apple pie, and guns.
"The free software offered by Cowpland is the version of WordPerfect built for the Linux operating system, which is itself available for free off the Internet."
So... he's offering something for free... that was already free in the first place. Ok. Please forgive me if I'm less than enthusiastic about it all.
One problem that school systems seem to miss (at least the one I was in back in high school) is the teachers are never trained. Untrained teachers don't know how to use the computers. Ignorant teachers can't teach students how to use the computers. Computers stagnate and rot in a corner somewhere. All the technology in the world won't help if no one knows how to use it.
I fear the security risks if linux is installed by unknowledgable people. It would sit there, not being updated with any security patches whatsoever, no firewall or blocking of any kind. Just open to the world. Maybe Mr. Cowpland, in all his generosity, would help pay for training and installation?
This all seems like a publicity stunt to me. He dosen't give a rat's ass about the South African school system. He's just after more marketshare. Nothing entirely wrong about that, although he shouldn't be portrayed as such a great guy as the article suggests.
Why should I bend over backwards to get my OS to support something I want to use? With all the problems with the folks at ati, I seriously doubt that my all in wonder pro's video and tv functions are very supported. A search on altavista for the words "all in wonder pro linux driver" revealed nothing. That's very nice and all that linux supports cashdrawer interfaces. Next time I'm running one, I'll be sure to give linux a look.
The whole world domination thing that everyone throws around all the time won't happen any time soon until linux can blanket support a mass number of peripherals. I can just imagine a linux junky saying to a hapless newbie linux user who's new video card isn't supported "don't buy crap hardware!". THAT should turn him on to linux in the future.
Ignoring a problem by having the user research for 2 weeks trying to find hardware that both performs at the expected level, has the required features, and is fully supported in linux isn't going to fix anything. Did you ever dare to venture into blasphemous territory and say the problem might be that linux's hardware support isn't what it could be?
They've brought it up to now support as much as one full cd! And only at 2.5x the price of a portable cd player! What a deal. Is it just me, or is the rio absolute crap aiming for the "more money than they know what to do with" crowd? Personally, I'm waiting until a portable $300 or below laptop hd (2 gigs or so) based player to come out. It shouldn't be too big, so portability wouldn't be much of an issue.
No shit. Anyone still using win3.1 apps needs to move on to a newer version. At a certain point of age, it's useless to try to make something work on current machines. MS markets nt to professional users. I've yet to see a professional user purposly use a 4-5 year old outdated app. There are better and newer things out here. You don't still use dos 3.0 or linux 1.0, do you?
As far as 9x not working well with nt, the vast majority of 9x apps will work quite happily on nt. The ones that don't usually have an nt version around. 9x and nt are different operating systems, so of course there will be incompatibilities.
What in the name of all that is holy do you DO to a machine to screw up installs that badly? Try to plug in a new video card while it's still on? Kick the hard drive? Either you're a liar or you're purposely screwing up things in ways I can only imagine.
I remember back when Acer started putting those fruity vent holes in the sides of their cases, lotsa people were oohing and aahing over it. Now imacs and dells are coming out in semitransparent, multiflavored (computers are flavors now?) cases. How times do change.
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Oops. I meant to say they operate in absolute secrecy.
It's good to see the nsa finally get spanked. They've been screwing over the american people for years now. Although, I seriously doubt congress will get anything out of the nsa. They operate in absolute, so I don't think congress will be able to get the nsa's info, no matter how many bills and laws they pass.
Why shouldn't someone sell a company if they so choose? If you build it up and put the work, then you have the right to benefit from it and to do what you see fit with your company. Another thing: if someone sells a company to a big corporation, why would the person care if people stop using the program? They just walked away with a nice bankroll, users or no users.
Would you respect me if you came home one day and found me walking around your house browing through your underwear while playing your barry manilow records? Or would you call the cops and have me hauled away? More likely, you would want me out of your damn house. Sure, you'd get better bolts for your door and maybe put up some bars and be more secure in the end. But, the fact still remains that I trespassed onto your property and looked through your belongings without permission.
I have no respect for people who break into sites without permission, whether they damage things or not. I DO, however, respect those who do it with permission on another system or locally on their own system. It takes quite a bit of brains to figure out ways around complex security measures. There are legal and ethical ways to breach the security of programs. (That is, until some misguided piece of legislation tramples that right.)
Mind you, I'm not preaching security through obscurity. I'm just saying that breaking into a system without permission is inethical, regardless of intentions. Who knows? Maybe I walked into your house to rearrange your furniture and fix your toaster. You don't know that, however. Therefore, you feel threatened by my presense and will presumably call authorities to haul me off elsewhere.
Yeah. Damn those newbies who aren't trained computer techs. Who the hell are they to be using a computer if they don't know the zen of all that is the modem! Damn newbies.
So many turn into activists when doing so is simple.
Well, aren't you the l33test s00pa badazz0r to ever use a computer. I ph33r your h4rd core l1nux 31337n3zz.
Kill d n00beez and rapes their wimen.
I'm sure linux is high and mighty on a 486dx2-66, but who runs a serious web server on a machine like that? Is it so hard for people to admit that linux might actually be beaten on high end hardware? Yes, I know that smp and other such high end goodies are being matured, but what about right now? Personally, I don't give a damn how well linux runs on 486s and below. They've long since been obsolete on anything serious.
I find it odd that so many linux users complain about fud directed towards linux, then go around and spread this kind of nonsense. I get 1mb/s at work easily between 2 win95 machines, both with 10mb cards with no noticable cpu overhead at all.
I'm not so sure people would really pay much attention to turing's advances in computing theory. Try to get the averge joe off the street interested in neural networks and see what happens. Just as I'm sure most slashdot readers don't pay much attention to archeological findings, most non slashdot types wouldn't give much feeling towards alan turing. (note my use of 'most' and not 'all')
It's not the computers that are permanent, it's the knowledge gained from using them at an early age. The same way kids can learn more than 1 language easily while growing up could be used for computers. If children grow up around computers and learn that mode of communication, it would eliminate alot of the "techno-fear" that seems to grip many adults these days. Sure a statue would let people know who alan turing is, but I doubt many people would care. They just want to go home to their tvs and watch the latest episode of the simpsons.
Kids are just masses of equal parts energy and curiosity; if you give them something, they'll have it played with, torn apart, and figured out faster than you can imagine. I think if computers are put forth in a responsible fashion (ie. adult supervision without setting ultra totalitarian rules) would open up a world of possibilities.
This is a waste of money that could be much better spent on buying computers for kids and advancing areas that Turing researched. Since I have no idea what exchange rates are, just figure 1 us dollar for every 1 british pound, totaling US$55k. At $500 per computer (they are very cheap nowadays), that's 110 computers. Which would advance society or Turing's ideas more: a bigass motionless statue of some guy no one outside of scientific and computer circles know or 110 computers put into good use by curious young minds?
Read what I said... It's much too impersonal *to me*, all absolutes and nothing much of beauty in it...
To ME. I do read lots of philosophy, mostly dealing with ethics and morality, however, not AI or mathematics. I carefully stated my opinion that way because I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Before you say anything, yes I have tried out mathematics; I've toyed with it and just didn't find it interesting or worth delving into more.
The reason I got the book is because I heard everyone raving over how great it was and I could become impotent of I didn't read it, etc.
Sounds like the netware 3.0 server here. 366 days uptime. It's been up longer than I've worked here. And in a sickly ironic turn of events, it's being taken down and replaced with nt in about a week.
I read this book a couple of years ago and excuse my ignorant heathen-ness, but I didn't like it. Partly because, like he says, I didn't know what the hell it was supposed to be about. And partly because I despise math with a hatred unseen by mortal eyes. It's much too impersonal to me, all absolutes and nothing much of beauty in it. I know enough math to get through life and that's all I feel I need. But, back to the book. Overall, I didn't enjoy it mostly because of the constant references to mathematics.
Perhaps I'm the only one who was either too ignorant to get it or the only one who's not trying to sound intellectual by saying I got it. Who knows.
P.S. - If you find The Mind's I, by Douglas Hofstadter and Daniel Dennett, GET IT. It's a wonderful book. Greatly entertaining book, especially for the philosophy genre.
They are releasing Linux and Mac first because there's a dearth of users for those platforms. That just makes my day :-)
One thing no one seems to have thought of.. who wants to start a betting pool of when the first lawsuit will be filed? I got 10 bucks on 2 weeks from today. Lawsuits are as american as mom, apple pie, and guns.
ooohh.. oops. 'scuse my misinformation.
"The free software offered by Cowpland is the version of WordPerfect built for the Linux operating system, which is itself available for free off the Internet."
So... he's offering something for free... that was already free in the first place. Ok. Please forgive me if I'm less than enthusiastic about it all.
One problem that school systems seem to miss (at least the one I was in back in high school) is the teachers are never trained. Untrained teachers don't know how to use the computers. Ignorant teachers can't teach students how to use the computers. Computers stagnate and rot in a corner somewhere. All the technology in the world won't help if no one knows how to use it.
I fear the security risks if linux is installed by unknowledgable people. It would sit there, not being updated with any security patches whatsoever, no firewall or blocking of any kind. Just open to the world. Maybe Mr. Cowpland, in all his generosity, would help pay for training and installation?
This all seems like a publicity stunt to me. He dosen't give a rat's ass about the South African school system. He's just after more marketshare. Nothing entirely wrong about that, although he shouldn't be portrayed as such a great guy as the article suggests.
Or maybe french canadian, eh?
Damn canadian.... uh... philes.
Why should I bend over backwards to get my OS to support something I want to use? With all the problems with the folks at ati, I seriously doubt that my all in wonder pro's video and tv functions are very supported. A search on altavista for the words "all in wonder pro linux driver" revealed nothing. That's very nice and all that linux supports cashdrawer interfaces. Next time I'm running one, I'll be sure to give linux a look.
The whole world domination thing that everyone throws around all the time won't happen any time soon until linux can blanket support a mass number of peripherals. I can just imagine a linux junky saying to a hapless newbie linux user who's new video card isn't supported "don't buy crap hardware!". THAT should turn him on to linux in the future.
Ignoring a problem by having the user research for 2 weeks trying to find hardware that both performs at the expected level, has the required features, and is fully supported in linux isn't going to fix anything. Did you ever dare to venture into blasphemous territory and say the problem might be that linux's hardware support isn't what it could be?
They've brought it up to now support as much as one full cd! And only at 2.5x the price of a portable cd player! What a deal. Is it just me, or is the rio absolute crap aiming for the "more money than they know what to do with" crowd? Personally, I'm waiting until a portable $300 or below laptop hd (2 gigs or so) based player to come out. It shouldn't be too big, so portability wouldn't be much of an issue.
No shit. Anyone still using win3.1 apps needs to move on to a newer version. At a certain point of age, it's useless to try to make something work on current machines. MS markets nt to professional users. I've yet to see a professional user purposly use a 4-5 year old outdated app. There are better and newer things out here. You don't still use dos 3.0 or linux 1.0, do you?
As far as 9x not working well with nt, the vast majority of 9x apps will work quite happily on nt. The ones that don't usually have an nt version around. 9x and nt are different operating systems, so of course there will be incompatibilities.
What in the name of all that is holy do you DO to a machine to screw up installs that badly? Try to plug in a new video card while it's still on? Kick the hard drive? Either you're a liar or you're purposely screwing up things in ways I can only imagine.
I remember back when Acer started putting those fruity vent holes in the sides of their cases, lotsa people were oohing and aahing over it. Now imacs and dells are coming out in semitransparent, multiflavored (computers are flavors now?) cases. How times do change.