For the market that the imac is targeted to, 64 megs of ram would do fine. 17" monitors are a nice plus, but not so nice to the end cost of a pc that's marketed to the home/new user/cheap audience. The same goes for scsi; it just adds to the cost of the pc. Cost that would better go for the option of adding in an add on usb hub. Scsi is meant for the high speed professional and enthusiast audiences who know all about installing devices and configuring things. Usb is meant for the "I want to plug it in and make it work" people.
Personally, I absolutely adore my home and work dell cases. Mainly because dell is one of the few big companies that still make the top of the case flat, so it's easy to sit stuff on top of. Although, a cow spotted box would definitely be a plus. Perhaps cow spotted with a flat top? I can dream.
Gore has completely fucked any chance he has of winning any elections. If the democrats nominate him as their presidential candidate, they're fucked. 95% of normal voters (and media as well) have no idea what open source is, much less who came up with the idea, so I'm sure he'll slip by on this one. But, the whole invention of the internet fiasco isn't going to be easy on him when everyone goes into heavy duty campaign mode. The republicans are going to be all over him.
Between the democrats inventing everything and the republicans shitting on civic rights, the independent vote is looking pretty good.
1. How did you manage to get an osr2 upgrade cd. There weren't any upgrade cds to go from a previous version to osr2. There was just an oem osr2 cd that had the full os on it to install on a clean hard drive.
2. Why did you have to repartition to install it? Win95 didn't support FAT32 until osr2.5. All it would require is at least deleting some program directories and at most a reformat.
3. Who'd you find dumb enough to pay you $340 to install win95 on something? I'd sure as hell like to find some people like that.
4. You indicate that upgrading to win98 takes 4 hours. Since when? On average, it takes me 20-30 minutes to install it. Even installing from disks wouldn't take 4 hours.
5. I'm asuming that the refusal parts after win98 means you didn't install 98 on the computer. So, why did you include the cost of win98 installation in your tco?
Alot of businesses use MS Office exlusively. It's all Microsoft's responsibility. They know quite well that the vast majority of users will never in their lives need to embed a macro in a word processing files, yet they continue to leave macros on by default.
"So, the person should use linux, god dammit! Office suites in linux can save in MS Office format!" you say? Most people up here don't even know what linux is, much less how to install and configure it. And nothing but 95/nt is officially supported here. Linux and mac people are on their own. On top of all that, lots of secretaries need to run Outlook to access their boss's schedules and calendars to set dates for meetings and such. Does linux support that?
The computing environment here is almost entirely Microsoft except for a couple of vax servers for some legacy services. We also rely very heavily on features of outlook for information exchange and communication. I'm not sure how outlook-compliant linux email apps are.
So, not everyone can just tell Microsoft and all their apps to go to hell and run off and use linux. It might very well be the best thing since sliced bread, but all that dosen't matter if it dosen't integrate well with the current information infrastructure of a business.
Yep, that says nerds in general. Not just hardware nerds, or software nerds, mac nerds, linux nerds, etc. But ALL nerds. Slashdot is a place for everyone to communicate unique ideas about technology, not just nitty gritty low level tech info. I kinda like Jon's articles. Granted, they're not the most insightful, pulitzer prize winning pieces of literary greatness, but alot of people like them. If you don't like them, then not only do you not have to read them, you don't even have to know they exist. That's why the filtering is there. Hell, you don't even have to read what Rob says; just filter his posts out. Easy as that.
I have 48 hours of mp3s (most all at 128k/44khz) on my computer, which equals out to 3 gigs of files, 1.5 gigs for each 24 hour day. You have 31 days worth of them on your computer. 31 days x 1.5 gigs per day = 46.5 gigs. You have 46.5 gigs of mp3s? Unless you happen to have a stack of scsi hard drives (and nothing scsi is cheap) sitting next to you , I seriously doubt you have 31 days of mp3s sitting around. And if you're rich enough to have that many hard drives hanging around, why are you complaining about the cost of a $15 cd?
K6 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
K6-2 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
K7 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
I've lost faith in AMD. They promise the world then don't deliver. I'm sure it'll be a decent processor, but nothing special, judging from what AMD has put out in the past.
I dunno about now, but a while ago, computer makers really DID have to pay for 95 for every system, regardless of installed os. If the maker didn't agree with that deal, ms packed its bags and went elsewhere, carrying its os contract with it.
An entire book could be written using only the combined creative forces of 12 year old boys trying to make other OS's look bad by coming up with ULTRA clever parodies for their names. Keep up the good work.
I, for one, registered it. Just because you're not being forced or annoyed into registering something dosen't mean you shouldn't. Quality software should be supported, and winamp is definitely quality software.
GRRRRR@!#@ Anyone who dosen't wear wool jackets in the summertime is a PUSSY!@ Everyone knows that if something is convenient, then it isn't damn well worth doing. I mix shredded glass in with my corn flakes and DARE my mouth to bleed! I even spam sex messages in UNRELATED newsgroups!@ I don't use word processors, I write my own in asm every time I want to write something. I'm the baddest motha around, so you BETTER not try to mess with me. I'm so bad, I'm not even using the preview button.
I, too, refuse to install an OS that gives me crap with my hardware. Which is why I don't run linux. I refuse to use any OS that does not work with my hardware and software, and I won't install megs upon megs of source code that I can't use. ('scuse, I'm not a programmer, just a hobbyist graphics geek) Because of the windows support these days, I can still get away with doing 100% of what I want with my computer. Running Photoshop, ie, irc client, and Baldur's Gate all at the same time dosen't crash it, so no problem with stability.
I don't think there's any real comparison between the 2. Photoshop and the gimp are aimed at completely different audiences. Photoshop is aimed at professionals who are willing to pay a premium for the best photo software on the market and those who need heavy duty printing support. Whereas the gimp is aimed at coders and (mostly) non professionals who are interested in web graphics and such. Photoshop and the gimp have nothing to fear from each other any time soon. I'd say that even if Photoshop was available on linux, they would both thrive in their respective markets.
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For the market that the imac is targeted to, 64 megs of ram would do fine. 17" monitors are a nice plus, but not so nice to the end cost of a pc that's marketed to the home/new user/cheap audience. The same goes for scsi; it just adds to the cost of the pc. Cost that would better go for the option of adding in an add on usb hub. Scsi is meant for the high speed professional and enthusiast audiences who know all about installing devices and configuring things. Usb is meant for the "I want to plug it in and make it work" people.
Personally, I absolutely adore my home and work dell cases. Mainly because dell is one of the few big companies that still make the top of the case flat, so it's easy to sit stuff on top of. Although, a cow spotted box would definitely be a plus. Perhaps cow spotted with a flat top? I can dream.
Gore has completely fucked any chance he has of winning any elections. If the democrats nominate him as their presidential candidate, they're fucked. 95% of normal voters (and media as well) have no idea what open source is, much less who came up with the idea, so I'm sure he'll slip by on this one. But, the whole invention of the internet fiasco isn't going to be easy on him when everyone goes into heavy duty campaign mode. The republicans are going to be all over him.
Between the democrats inventing everything and the republicans shitting on civic rights, the independent vote is looking pretty good.
1. How did you manage to get an osr2 upgrade cd. There weren't any upgrade cds to go from a previous version to osr2. There was just an oem osr2 cd that had the full os on it to install on a clean hard drive.
2. Why did you have to repartition to install it? Win95 didn't support FAT32 until osr2.5. All it would require is at least deleting some program directories and at most a reformat.
3. Who'd you find dumb enough to pay you $340 to install win95 on something? I'd sure as hell like to find some people like that.
4. You indicate that upgrading to win98 takes 4 hours. Since when? On average, it takes me 20-30 minutes to install it. Even installing from disks wouldn't take 4 hours.
5. I'm asuming that the refusal parts after win98 means you didn't install 98 on the computer. So, why did you include the cost of win98 installation in your tco?
Alot of businesses use MS Office exlusively. It's all Microsoft's responsibility. They know quite well that the vast majority of users will never in their lives need to embed a macro in a word processing files, yet they continue to leave macros on by default.
"So, the person should use linux, god dammit! Office suites in linux can save in MS Office format!" you say? Most people up here don't even know what linux is, much less how to install and configure it. And nothing but 95/nt is officially supported here. Linux and mac people are on their own. On top of all that, lots of secretaries need to run Outlook to access their boss's schedules and calendars to set dates for meetings and such. Does linux support that?
The computing environment here is almost entirely Microsoft except for a couple of vax servers for some legacy services. We also rely very heavily on features of outlook for information exchange and communication. I'm not sure how outlook-compliant linux email apps are.
So, not everyone can just tell Microsoft and all their apps to go to hell and run off and use linux. It might very well be the best thing since sliced bread, but all that dosen't matter if it dosen't integrate well with the current information infrastructure of a business.
"The newsgroup alt.sex is not on this news server"
DAMN the man! And DAMN college news servers!
Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
Yep, that says nerds in general. Not just hardware nerds, or software nerds, mac nerds, linux nerds, etc. But ALL nerds. Slashdot is a place for everyone to communicate unique ideas about technology, not just nitty gritty low level tech info. I kinda like Jon's articles. Granted, they're not the most insightful, pulitzer prize winning pieces of literary greatness, but alot of people like them. If you don't like them, then not only do you not have to read them, you don't even have to know they exist. That's why the filtering is there. Hell, you don't even have to read what Rob says; just filter his posts out. Easy as that.
I have 48 hours of mp3s (most all at 128k/44khz) on my computer, which equals out to 3 gigs of files, 1.5 gigs for each 24 hour day. You have 31 days worth of them on your computer. 31 days x 1.5 gigs per day = 46.5 gigs. You have 46.5 gigs of mp3s? Unless you happen to have a stack of scsi hard drives (and nothing scsi is cheap) sitting next to you , I seriously doubt you have 31 days of mp3s sitting around. And if you're rich enough to have that many hard drives hanging around, why are you complaining about the cost of a $15 cd?
shutup or I'll kick your @ss
K6 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
K6-2 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
K7 - it's the best thing since sex! it'll rock all over intel.
I've lost faith in AMD. They promise the world then don't deliver. I'm sure it'll be a decent processor, but nothing special, judging from what AMD has put out in the past.
I dunno about now, but a while ago, computer makers really DID have to pay for 95 for every system, regardless of installed os. If the maker didn't agree with that deal, ms packed its bags and went elsewhere, carrying its os contract with it.
Log in, set threshold, read till your eyes bleed.
"8,001 overdone cheezy ways to say the name of any non linux OS."
winblows, windoze, winsloth, win....
slowlaris....
crapintosh, macintrash....
An entire book could be written using only the combined creative forces of 12 year old boys trying to make other OS's look bad by coming up with ULTRA clever parodies for their names. Keep up the good work.
I, for one, registered it. Just because you're not being forced or annoyed into registering something dosen't mean you shouldn't. Quality software should be supported, and winamp is definitely quality software.
GRRRRR@!#@ Anyone who dosen't wear wool jackets in the summertime is a PUSSY!@ Everyone knows that if something is convenient, then it isn't damn well worth doing. I mix shredded glass in with my corn flakes and DARE my mouth to bleed! I even spam sex messages in UNRELATED newsgroups!@ I don't use word processors, I write my own in asm every time I want to write something. I'm the baddest motha around, so you BETTER not try to mess with me. I'm so bad, I'm not even using the preview button.
Ask them these questions instead and see what happens:
Do you stability?
Do you flexibility?
Do you want affordability?
What about the questions
"Do you want usability?"
"Do you want to play games?"
"Do you want ample hardware support?"
They mention the cost saved by not having to buy and operating system for each machine, but I wonder about the cost of retraining users to use linux.
I, too, refuse to install an OS that gives me crap with my hardware. Which is why I don't run linux. I refuse to use any OS that does not work with my hardware and software, and I won't install megs upon megs of source code that I can't use. ('scuse, I'm not a programmer, just a hobbyist graphics geek) Because of the windows support these days, I can still get away with doing 100% of what I want with my computer. Running Photoshop, ie, irc client, and Baldur's Gate all at the same time dosen't crash it, so no problem with stability.
How many times must there be a "looks like linux/linus has hit the mainstream!" comment? Yes, it's mainstream. Get over it.
I don't think there's any real comparison between the 2. Photoshop and the gimp are aimed at completely different audiences. Photoshop is aimed at professionals who are willing to pay a premium for the best photo software on the market and those who need heavy duty printing support. Whereas the gimp is aimed at coders and (mostly) non professionals who are interested in web graphics and such. Photoshop and the gimp have nothing to fear from each other any time soon. I'd say that even if Photoshop was available on linux, they would both thrive in their respective markets.