Damn it, I just finally got myself comfortable with RH 7.2 too:)
Well, seriously, when they first bought Netscape it scared the shit out of many people. I remember the shit I heard back then, "It is the end of the web." Blah, blah, blah.
But do we not now have Mozilla? I have to say, they kept up their end of the bargain and left it all open source and now we have possibly the best browser yet. With 0.9.8 approaching it seems weird to look back at the very early betas. It has come so far so fast.
Perhaps AOL Time Warner will provide the Linux community the resources it could use to further grow and mature. It would be like Mozilla and Netscape 6 where one is good for those of us who like solid software without all the other shit and Netscape 6 with all the consumer BS. I could see a more user-friendly dumbed down Linux distro for consumers, while the existing RedHat distro would be wide open for the rest of us.
Then again, god only knows. There's always Debian:)
* Professional Acceptance of Patent (Maybe a part of the USPO acts as a mentor program(?)
To take this step further, what about a committee made up from representatives from all different competing businesses to provide some oversight?
Wouldn't it make sense for the industry to police itself since it is in their best interests to ensure that only legitimate, truly unique innovations are patented?
Well, if the moon is moving 3.8 cm away from the Earth every year, that does not bode well for life on this planet next millennium. Since gravity is so important to our climate I would imagine that this could have bad long term effects.
I remember reading something a while back about ancient Egyptians believeing there were two suns int he sky. I wonder if what they saw was a much closer moon back then?
All throughout the Earth there is evidence of dramatic gravitational changes int he past. For example, below all the ice in the northern reaches of Canada there are vast reserves of coal. Since coal is made through the decay of organic matter, it means there had to be a massive forest up there at some time. Then in the deserts of Africa there are mountains where they find seashells like 1000 feet above sea level.
Perhaps the moon pulling away from the Earth has caused many of the major changes on the Earth...
If a license was used that allowed non-commercial use of code, but forced a company to pay a fee for it's use in a commercial project, makes the most sense to me.
I would have to agree with this, but I think this opens up another can of worms that needs to be thought about - enforcement. There would need to be some oversight and accountability. Commercial businesses that use the code would need to be held accountable to make restitution should they be caught using the code without paying the fee.
The hardest part about this would be tracking those abuse the use of the code. It does not take much effort to conceal and disguise others' code within your own. Change variables, structure, fucntion names, etc.
It is ashame we live in a society where big business has no ethics (ie. Enron)
I see they have Nien Nunb and Hammerhead, but what about Greedo? I am also wondering if that Greedo-looking dude who was friends with Anakin in Episode 1 really is Greedo...
On 7.2 it was a totally different issue. Because of the basic design of the architecture, I actually had to downgrade binutils and gcc to install a pretty damn recent build of Oracle. Why?
You just have to install the *compat rpms to accomodate Oracle's brain-dead java installer. This is explained in the release notes to 7.1 - I would hope 7.2 as well. This is not Red Hat creating a problem - it's Oracle creating a problem and Red Hat fixing the problem.
So are you saying that it is up to the software developers to make changes to their software everytime there is a new release of the operating system? That is ludicrous. The OS is JUST A LAYER. The only time backwards compatability should ever be sacrificed is in the move from 16 to 32 bits, 32 to 64 bits, etc. If every upgrade of SunOS or MacOS, or Windows shattered all previous compatabilities there would not be many companies producing software for them. Hell, even MacOS which is a big architecture change for the MacOS maintains backwards compatability.
Maybe this is why Linux is having trouble getting adopted by non-technical users. People want to be able to go and grab software and know with relative certainty that it will run without modification.
"About 65 percent of executives polled by Goldman Sachs said they have no plans to use Linux at their company next year."
Actually this statement is probably true, and I would not blame it on the executives either. The fact of the matter is that companies that have mission critical applications will almost always prefer Sun over Linux because SunOS is much more robust and has matured way beyond where Linux is at today. You know how many bugs there were in Solaris 8? Last time I looked there were less than 20. Can you say that about any Red Hat version?
Another issue with Linux is compatability. I have had my teeth kicked in by Linux several times the past few years. Once with Oracle, and another with Sybase. I installed Oracle 8.1.7 on RH 6.2 with no problems. On 7.2 it was a totally different issue. Because of the basic design of the architecture, I actually had to downgrade binutils and gcc to install a pretty damn recent build of Oracle. Why? I have no idea, but any OS that has dependencies that change with every release has issues. If I were an M$ guy (which I am not - I use RH 7.2) I would not have any issues upgrading the OS. Oracle will work if I run NT4, Win2k, or XP. No modifications are needed on the system. On Sun it is the same. Solaris 2.6, 7, 8, or 9. Oracle will run happily.
One could theoretically say it was Oracle's support for building the application to a dependency like that, but when you think of it, an OS is just a layer between apps and hardware. It should not really even have any features of its own. The OS should be accomodating. Applications drive business, not the OS
Don't get me wrong, I like Linux, a lot. It is my main development environment as well as my main desktop. It is just my opinion thatg being zealous or fanatical about anything is not good. Just because some of us really like it and it works for us does not mean that we are more right then those who do not use it. It just means that this is our tool of choice. Different tools are for different tasks.
Anyone here remember the V mini-series? There were two, the first one just called V, and then the second one called V, THe Final Battle. I got them all on video and together they are like 10 hours long. Think I have my marathon:) Now I just have to find some munchies:)
This is eerie. It is jsut like that movie Demolition Man when in the future everyone had digital tracking devices implanted and big brother could type an id into a computer and locate you anywhere. It was also used for currency as well, allowing people to use their id to draw funds from their account. Man, this could have some really big privacy/security repercussions. For all the secutrity we will supposedly gain being able to track and/or identify people we will lose to crackers who find a way to hack these things for evil deeds. Not good at all.
As somemeone who never read the ook, this movie has made me want to pick up a copy of the first book now and to some comparisons. This film was so beautifully filmed. The scene with the troll and the scene with the Balron were some great effects. I would also have to say that the Orcs looked evil as shit and gave you the willies. Great film! Only issue I had was when it ended it, though I have been told that is where the book ended, it did not feel like a natural ending. In fact, I was so caught up with the movie that when it ended I was pissed:) I wanted it to keep going! In like 2004 when they will probably release a DVD box set it will be awesome to watch the whole trilogy straight through:)
The first time I read about this kind of networking I thought somebody was smoking something. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want my equipment hooked into another line where a spike could get through. I don't care what they say about surge protection, a good enough lighting blast can come through even the most grounded building and blast the shit out of your equipment, even with like 500 joule surge protection. Also I would think security would be an issue. Hell, most newer houses have external outlets for convenience and I would hate to think of some cracker punk sitting outside tappinbg my lan from my yard.
Just a clarification, I did not post this with the intention of flame bait. It is a serious question. What is so great about Crusoe now? When it first came out the big thing was power consumption, and that it consumed much less then the other procs on the market. What I was saying was that now Intel and AMD both make processors on par with the Crusoe's power consumption, but outperforming the Crusoe. Is there something special about the Crusoe that I am missing?
Just because Linus was involved doesn't make it any good guys. Besides, all of its advantages over Intel and AMD have pretty much evaporated. Both Intel and AMD have procs that outperform Crusoe and have the same power consumption...
I know from my web development experiences that this has long been a problem. In fact, recently me and a friend were contracted to make some modifications to a site built in perl. The client was an all-MS shop and did not notice that sometimes the contents of the CGI's got dumped out the screen raw. It turned out that since they all used IE, it automatically assumed the output to be HTML and rendered it, but when we used Mozilla, since no propoer MIME header was sent, the browser just rendered it as text. Kind of scary that this can go on without anyone doing something about it.
Well, I find it interesting that some of the top achievers in the United States did not do well in college or outright dropped out. The point I am trying to make is that GPA, tests, etc can only test "book smarts" and not logic and problem solving skills needed in the real world. No matter how "book smart" you may be it is very possible that you are functionally iliterate and don't have the smarts to figure out whether to go lefvt or right. Shit, even Dean Kamen didn't graduate college and some of his inventions are well known and made him rich.
Makes you wonder if these aren't the very people who caused the economy to shit the bed. When I worked at one startup that will remain namkeless InfoRocket.com one of the main decision makers thought it would be more cost effective to outsource web development to PWC at a minimum of $1mm, as opposed to our 5 man internal team that had a lot more of a vested interest, and made a hell of a lot less money. Not only did we have more of a vested interest, our expertise was substantially greater than anyone that PWC would have do the work for us. We were building everything in PHP/Oracle on Apache Linux/Sun etc. If these guys did it we would have been an IIS wormhole...
What do you expect from a company that hires people based on GPA and status of college? All of the major consulting companies, Bain, McKinsey, PWC, et al, they won't even interview you if your SAT scores, GPA, and College aren't "top notch." It is pretty sad, as if this is really a measurement of ability. These companies don't like anyone to be individual or think outside the box and it shows in their draconian policies.
Out of all the game systems on his chart, Tom totally forgot to list the Nintendo Entertainment System in the grid with the release dates. Unfortunate to miss perhaps the most signifigant of all the gaming platforms. The NES's popularity exceeded all others on that list (in terms of titles made and sold, installed base) and it earns a spot in history as one of the first pieces of entertainment to actually surpass the installed base of VCR's in the US.
Seems like this technology is still 5 years off. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single practical use i would have for it. Guess that this isn't the kind of paper you would run through a shredder if you mess up;)
IBM really f**ked this one up. When OS/2 Warp 3 came out back in '94, it ran its own apps, as well as Windows 3.1 apps. The cool part was that because of the way it used protective memory addressing it actually ran Windows 3.1 programs faster, and less crash-prone. Only IBM's marketing department could drop the ball on something so cool. They could have come after M$ with both guns blazing, but instead they half-assed it. It wasn't even an issue of compatability then either. Windows 95 wasn't out yet so all the top selling packages on the market then ran on OS/2...
I really hope these eCom (gay name) people get it right:)
LOL! Even funnier is that they spent like $800 million bucks to buy that Blue Mountain Arts greeting card site and recently sold it for like $20 million. Sheesh, I could have coded them up that site in perl for a few $k;)
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Damn it, I just finally got myself comfortable with RH 7.2 too :)
:)
Well, seriously, when they first bought Netscape it scared the shit out of many people. I remember the shit I heard back then, "It is the end of the web." Blah, blah, blah.
But do we not now have Mozilla? I have to say, they kept up their end of the bargain and left it all open source and now we have possibly the best browser yet. With 0.9.8 approaching it seems weird to look back at the very early betas. It has come so far so fast.
Perhaps AOL Time Warner will provide the Linux community the resources it could use to further grow and mature. It would be like Mozilla and Netscape 6 where one is good for those of us who like solid software without all the other shit and Netscape 6 with all the consumer BS. I could see a more user-friendly dumbed down Linux distro for consumers, while the existing RedHat distro would be wide open for the rest of us.
Then again, god only knows. There's always Debian
--Jon
I did some research a few months ago on Lisp since I am not very familiar with it and I discovered that Yahoo stores uses Lisp.
It would seem to me that if it can power 14,000 e-commerce sites for the largest web network that it must be pretty scalable.
Lisp, due to its recursive nature is often used in AI because it can perform operations with lower overhead.
--Jon
* Professional Acceptance of Patent (Maybe a part of the USPO acts as a mentor program(?)
To take this step further, what about a committee made up from representatives from all different competing businesses to provide some oversight?
Wouldn't it make sense for the industry to police itself since it is in their best interests to ensure that only legitimate, truly unique innovations are patented?
--Jon
a billion years ago it was only 3800 km closer
:)
:)
May not seem like a lot, but that is like a 1% difference which is actually quite a bit
Well, on the bright side we are more likely to get hit by a meteor before the moon moves another km
--Jon
Well, if the moon is moving 3.8 cm away from the Earth every year, that does not bode well for life on this planet next millennium. Since gravity is so important to our climate I would imagine that this could have bad long term effects.
I remember reading something a while back about ancient Egyptians believeing there were two suns int he sky. I wonder if what they saw was a much closer moon back then?
All throughout the Earth there is evidence of dramatic gravitational changes int he past. For example, below all the ice in the northern reaches of Canada there are vast reserves of coal. Since coal is made through the decay of organic matter, it means there had to be a massive forest up there at some time. Then in the deserts of Africa there are mountains where they find seashells like 1000 feet above sea level.
Perhaps the moon pulling away from the Earth has caused many of the major changes on the Earth...
--Jon
If a license was used that allowed non-commercial use of code, but forced a company to pay a fee for it's use in a commercial project, makes the most sense to me.
I would have to agree with this, but I think this opens up another can of worms that needs to be thought about - enforcement. There would need to be some oversight and accountability. Commercial businesses that use the code would need to be held accountable to make restitution should they be caught using the code without paying the fee.
The hardest part about this would be tracking those abuse the use of the code. It does not take much effort to conceal and disguise others' code within your own. Change variables, structure, fucntion names, etc.
It is ashame we live in a society where big business has no ethics (ie. Enron)
--Jon
You don't need to suboena Microsoft's mailing lists. Just find the address of one of their IIS/Exchange servers and help yourself ;)
--Jon
I see they have Nien Nunb and Hammerhead, but what about Greedo? I am also wondering if that Greedo-looking dude who was friends with Anakin in Episode 1 really is Greedo...
On 7.2 it was a totally different issue. Because of the basic design of the architecture, I actually had to downgrade binutils and gcc to install a pretty damn recent build of Oracle. Why?
You just have to install the *compat rpms to accomodate Oracle's brain-dead java installer. This is explained in the release notes to 7.1 - I would hope 7.2 as well. This is not Red Hat creating a problem - it's Oracle creating a problem and Red Hat fixing the problem.
So are you saying that it is up to the software developers to make changes to their software everytime there is a new release of the operating system? That is ludicrous. The OS is JUST A LAYER. The only time backwards compatability should ever be sacrificed is in the move from 16 to 32 bits, 32 to 64 bits, etc. If every upgrade of SunOS or MacOS, or Windows shattered all previous compatabilities there would not be many companies producing software for them. Hell, even MacOS which is a big architecture change for the MacOS maintains backwards compatability.
Maybe this is why Linux is having trouble getting adopted by non-technical users. People want to be able to go and grab software and know with relative certainty that it will run without modification.
--Jon
"About 65 percent of executives polled by Goldman Sachs said they have no plans to use Linux at their company next year."
Actually this statement is probably true, and I would not blame it on the executives either. The fact of the matter is that companies that have mission critical applications will almost always prefer Sun over Linux because SunOS is much more robust and has matured way beyond where Linux is at today. You know how many bugs there were in Solaris 8? Last time I looked there were less than 20. Can you say that about any Red Hat version?
Another issue with Linux is compatability. I have had my teeth kicked in by Linux several times the past few years. Once with Oracle, and another with Sybase. I installed Oracle 8.1.7 on RH 6.2 with no problems. On 7.2 it was a totally different issue. Because of the basic design of the architecture, I actually had to downgrade binutils and gcc to install a pretty damn recent build of Oracle. Why? I have no idea, but any OS that has dependencies that change with every release has issues. If I were an M$ guy (which I am not - I use RH 7.2) I would not have any issues upgrading the OS. Oracle will work if I run NT4, Win2k, or XP. No modifications are needed on the system. On Sun it is the same. Solaris 2.6, 7, 8, or 9. Oracle will run happily.
One could theoretically say it was Oracle's support for building the application to a dependency like that, but when you think of it, an OS is just a layer between apps and hardware. It should not really even have any features of its own. The OS should be accomodating. Applications drive business, not the OS
Don't get me wrong, I like Linux, a lot. It is my main development environment as well as my main desktop. It is just my opinion thatg being zealous or fanatical about anything is not good. Just because some of us really like it and it works for us does not mean that we are more right then those who do not use it. It just means that this is our tool of choice. Different tools are for different tasks.
--Jon
As terrible as it may sound that they are in the movie, at least they get blown up.
The Post says they appear in the background of the film's climactic battle scene, before getting blown up by "battle droids."
THis at least makes up somewhat for George selling out for a few more bucks to pad his already large wallet... --Jon
Anyone here remember the V mini-series? There were two, the first one just called V, and then the second one called V, THe Final Battle. I got them all on video and together they are like 10 hours long. Think I have my marathon :) Now I just have to find some munchies :)
This is eerie. It is jsut like that movie Demolition Man when in the future everyone had digital tracking devices implanted and big brother could type an id into a computer and locate you anywhere. It was also used for currency as well, allowing people to use their id to draw funds from their account. Man, this could have some really big privacy/security repercussions. For all the secutrity we will supposedly gain being able to track and/or identify people we will lose to crackers who find a way to hack these things for evil deeds. Not good at all.
As somemeone who never read the ook, this movie has made me want to pick up a copy of the first book now and to some comparisons. This film was so beautifully filmed. The scene with the troll and the scene with the Balron were some great effects. I would also have to say that the Orcs looked evil as shit and gave you the willies. Great film! Only issue I had was when it ended it, though I have been told that is where the book ended, it did not feel like a natural ending. In fact, I was so caught up with the movie that when it ended I was pissed :) I wanted it to keep going! In like 2004 when they will probably release a DVD box set it will be awesome to watch the whole trilogy straight through :)
--Jon
The first time I read about this kind of networking I thought somebody was smoking something. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want my equipment hooked into another line where a spike could get through. I don't care what they say about surge protection, a good enough lighting blast can come through even the most grounded building and blast the shit out of your equipment, even with like 500 joule surge protection. Also I would think security would be an issue. Hell, most newer houses have external outlets for convenience and I would hate to think of some cracker punk sitting outside tappinbg my lan from my yard.
--Jon
Just a clarification, I did not post this with the intention of flame bait. It is a serious question. What is so great about Crusoe now? When it first came out the big thing was power consumption, and that it consumed much less then the other procs on the market. What I was saying was that now Intel and AMD both make processors on par with the Crusoe's power consumption, but outperforming the Crusoe. Is there something special about the Crusoe that I am missing?
--Jon
Just because Linus was involved doesn't make it any good guys. Besides, all of its advantages over Intel and AMD have pretty much evaporated. Both Intel and AMD have procs that outperform Crusoe and have the same power consumption...
--Jon
I know from my web development experiences that this has long been a problem. In fact, recently me and a friend were contracted to make some modifications to a site built in perl. The client was an all-MS shop and did not notice that sometimes the contents of the CGI's got dumped out the screen raw. It turned out that since they all used IE, it automatically assumed the output to be HTML and rendered it, but when we used Mozilla, since no propoer MIME header was sent, the browser just rendered it as text. Kind of scary that this can go on without anyone doing something about it.
--Jon
Well, I find it interesting that some of the top achievers in the United States did not do well in college or outright dropped out. The point I am trying to make is that GPA, tests, etc can only test "book smarts" and not logic and problem solving skills needed in the real world. No matter how "book smart" you may be it is very possible that you are functionally iliterate and don't have the smarts to figure out whether to go lefvt or right. Shit, even Dean Kamen didn't graduate college and some of his inventions are well known and made him rich.
Makes you wonder if these aren't the very people who caused the economy to shit the bed. When I worked at one startup that will remain namkeless InfoRocket.com one of the main decision makers thought it would be more cost effective to outsource web development to PWC at a minimum of $1mm, as opposed to our 5 man internal team that had a lot more of a vested interest, and made a hell of a lot less money. Not only did we have more of a vested interest, our expertise was substantially greater than anyone that PWC would have do the work for us. We were building everything in PHP/Oracle on Apache Linux/Sun etc. If these guys did it we would have been an IIS wormhole...
What do you expect from a company that hires people based on GPA and status of college? All of the major consulting companies, Bain, McKinsey, PWC, et al, they won't even interview you if your SAT scores, GPA, and College aren't "top notch." It is pretty sad, as if this is really a measurement of ability. These companies don't like anyone to be individual or think outside the box and it shows in their draconian policies.
--Jon
Out of all the game systems on his chart, Tom totally forgot to list the Nintendo Entertainment System in the grid with the release dates. Unfortunate to miss perhaps the most signifigant of all the gaming platforms. The NES's popularity exceeded all others on that list (in terms of titles made and sold, installed base) and it earns a spot in history as one of the first pieces of entertainment to actually surpass the installed base of VCR's in the US.
--Jon
Seems like this technology is still 5 years off. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single practical use i would have for it. Guess that this isn't the kind of paper you would run through a shredder if you mess up ;)
--Jon
IBM really f**ked this one up. When OS/2 Warp 3 came out back in '94, it ran its own apps, as well as Windows 3.1 apps. The cool part was that because of the way it used protective memory addressing it actually ran Windows 3.1 programs faster, and less crash-prone. Only IBM's marketing department could drop the ball on something so cool. They could have come after M$ with both guns blazing, but instead they half-assed it. It wasn't even an issue of compatability then either. Windows 95 wasn't out yet so all the top selling packages on the market then ran on OS/2...
:)
I really hope these eCom (gay name) people get it right
--Jon
LOL! Even funnier is that they spent like $800 million bucks to buy that Blue Mountain Arts greeting card site and recently sold it for like $20 million. Sheesh, I could have coded them up that site in perl for a few $k ;)
--Jon