Sounds to me like it's more the case that the article in question didn't pertain to your specific wants in a new processor article. It doesn't seem like the submitter hid the intents of the article:
Even if you have no interest in AMD's latest workstation chips, the review is worth checking out to see how two dozen of the fastest workstation and PC processors stack up in rendering, scientific computing, speech recognition, and even gaming tests."
In fact, nowhere do I see the implication that this would be a suite of tests regarding the Opteron's capability as a server processor. To quote the article itself:
First and foremost, we tested the Opteron 150 and 250 as workstation processors, not as server chips. Perhaps next time out we'll consider doing a suite of server-oriented benchmarks, but PC-based workstations are a more common part of our coverage around here.
Overall, I just don't think that you're the audience they intend to read the article. Still, you're not all Slashdotters, so I would assume (as the submitter probably did) that some people might benefit from it anyway. Hence, on Slashdot.
Who knows? If I was into gaming, I'd be following the gamers sites, not reading Slashdot.
No, you wouldn't, because gaming sites don't do comprehensive benchmarks of hardware on multiple processors and video cards. They do game reviews. If you're wondering which new processor or video card is going to give you the most bang for your buck on a game you are already planning to buy (or already have), that doesn't help much.
And if I'm not mistaken, Slashdot has a games section. I could say the same thing about music (re: every single iTunes- and Rio-oriented article). Slashdot is not limited to just server administrators and programmers (whether or not this is a bad thing in the first place, isn't the point). So, if an article doesn't cater to some people, is it really fair to bitch and moan that it doesn't do that for niche X?
Finally (and back to the main topic), TechReport is an enthusiast site. It doesn't handle every practice that products could be intended for, and doesn't handle all products for a given practice. Take it with a grain of salt.
Yep. It's almost-certain overclocking abilities have something to do with the lower voltage requirements for mobile chips and the testing methods used to handpick them. TechReport did a mini-article on that too, I think.
I gathered that they tested on Windows 32-bit because that is the OS with the most desktop workstation user base. To compare existing products to new ones on what people actually use, and more importantly, what is actually available (have you bought your copy of Windows XP 64-bit edition yet?), you benchmark what they did. Another reason to test a 64-bit-capable CPU on a non-64-bit OS is simply because they can, as it's not limited to solely 64-bit applications.
They test on games because the benchmarks are easy for them to perform (they've been doing the same set of tests for quite a while) and because they cater mostly to a game-playing audience. AMD almost always compares favorably to Intel in game tests.
Still, I agree that it would be nice to see benchmarks of 64-bit software running on a 64-bit operating system. Is UT2kX 64-bit ready for Linux?
So, eventually, we'll have overpopulation. Then, governments will institute breeding policies and laws, probably through some sort of lottery system. And thus we'll start breeding for luck.
I don't know if they stopped the practice, but to my understanding a good number of japanese animation productions DO dub after the animation. Obviously multiple takes will occur and a lot of audio manipulation can be done in editing.
I suppose it can also force the VA to pay very close attention to what is occuring in the animation and perform accordingly--In this way, the animation (driven by the director and animators) might have a bit more control over how the voicework is performed. But, IANAJVA (japanese voice actor), so take what I garner from DVD special features and general internet knowledge with a grain of salt.:)
Yes, but good dealers will also search along (in my case) the whole east coast for the car I want in an online database. Unfortunately, we didn't find what I wanted (just abs/airbags and leather, no extraneous sunroof combo and other stuff) anyway.
I was actually quite impressed with that bit of technology being used. These days they'll cooperate with other dealers, trading between them (within proximity) to minimize milage losses, and still get to use whatever commission system they have in place (also, salesmen are the ones wanting the commissions, but the dealer doesn't really give a shit--if it can get you into their financing options through them too:) ).
But alas, it wasn't to be, and I did go elsewhere with no one running after (luckily I found an almost-like-new '99 from a private owner).
Funny, I seem to remember some expensive consoles a while back. Sega CD? 32X? TurboGrafx? Jaguar? NeoGeo?
I don't think a Nintendo system has ever debuted above the $200 price point. Systems used to come with pack-in games at launch too. These days that doesn't happen until right before the first round of price cuts.
Admittedly though, you didn't used to have to buy as many extra controllers or memory cards. The games used to cost more though!
Sounds like you haven't bought a new car lately. Special ordering is almost out of the question (and certainly more expensive). When you go to a dealer now, you and the dealer find what's available that has as many features that you want as possible.
This doesn't even get into the number of times "to have package A you MUST have package B and C and F" situations crop up. Want a sunroof? Say "hi" to your new factory 6-CD Changer! Oh, by the way, we couldn't find that without the luxury package as well, so that'll be another $500 for the leather interior.
and give you a discount to boot.
I would certainly hope that I don't have to pay for something that's not included in the car! I wouldn't call it a 'discount' either. Not only is it not true (you're not getting the car for any less than it is 'truly' worth), but it makes it sound like the dealer is doing you a favor by not charging you for something you didn't buy. We all know who's best interest the dealer is looking out for.
Valve recently spoke in an interview (I can't remember the site, unfortunately) in which they basically said the game wasn't even ready back when it was hacked, and used that as an excuse for the time. So... they lied to try to save their butts.
Not that I care. I'm awaiting it for the single player.:) If it's not ready yet, I don't want it yet.
- Require a reboot
- What if you need to patch the game ?
- What if you need drivers for hardware (ie video cards) that came out after the CD ? Or updated drivers ?
- What if you want to run a third-party application (ie Roger Wilco) in paralel with your game ?
- Where and how do you save game ?
- How do you use/apply mods to your games ?
- How do you manage networking (setting, patch, etc)
Easy! You buy one computer for your office applications and music. Then, buy a separate one for your new games. This one has internet and a hard drive for patching and saving and modding. It could be fairly cheap, and you could even hook it up to a TV if you wanted to. Setting up game pads would be easy, as there's only one connector type and a limited number of things that everyone would program for in unison (some sort of a standards committee. Maybe they'd make a completely new controller port shape). You might even be able to run Linux on it!
You're missing the point. What is the highest source of traffic through tcp/ip? Web browsing? FTP? News? Home networking? Office networking? Games? That's a lot of traffic.
The grandparent is speculating that decidedly most of the traffic through P2P applications is used to facilitate copyright infringement of movies, music, and games. Compared to the internet at large, this is not a lot of tcp/ip traffic, and there should be some way of eliminating illegal uses of the programs.
Also, you were quick to put words into his mouth. He never specifically stated that P2P application writers should be arrested, nor really even implied it.
2. Users in the workplace are comfortable with windows because it is what they know. Applications are not quite as cryptic and windows is truly a morons operating system which is what the vast majority of users in the workplace are.
Good job. You managed to call 80%+ of computer users in the workplace morons, with no factual basis.
Admittedly, there are more (and proportionally more, I would guess) user-friendly applications available for Windows than for Linux for the average user. However, I think the lack of adoption on workplace desktops has more to do with IT and bigwigs at employers not understanding or underestimating their workers' abilities on computers, as well as not communicating with them regarding their problems with the systems and Windows. If employees do not know there are alternatives, they don't complain or their complaints are not heard, for they have no comparison; that's just the way it is, if your computer crashes all the time!
Her analysis is going to be the right prediction, if she plans on keeping her job. So, bank on her being right more often than not. If it was going to die tomorrow, she probably would have had a more skeptical prediction, saying that XYZ corporation, among other large IT corps., have considered Linux, but have decided against deploying it on a large scale; they say it is too blah blah for their needs, and doesn't have ABC features that they require in today's competitive marketplace.
I don't know about everyone else in the world, but I don't drink two bottles of "drinking water" every day, and certainly not at those prices.
Contrast this with similar costs of having to fill up at the gas station once a week. People are, for all practical concerns, *required* to use gas on a regular basis to get where they need to go.
It's that damn Atkins diet driving up the price of milk and meat. >={
I wonder if breads are going down in price. Hey, someone find out if you can get 20pks of ramen for a buck now instead of 10!
Yeah, your base wage would be $27.65, but you'd still be ineligible/screwed by the weekly take-home pay.
$455 a week? Where is the deviding line between a professional, and a semi-technical white-collar job (like say, computer draftsman). That's still a very low amount for base hourly pay, at $11.38/hr. What does middle-class America do, if they aren't considered an 'office worker' (that is not exempt), but clearly don't have a professional degree?
Thankfully, the $100k amount they bring up includes overtime pay, bringing the limit down for overly compensated pay to a much more reasonable before-overtime $60-80k rate.
Perhaps they meant it tastes more like it's regular counterpart than other diet drinks?
Yes. (really, this is obvious, and you should know better; or alternatively, make your sarcasm more apparent *g*)
However, any time I've had a diet soda of almost ANY brand, I have been wholly underwhelmed at the lack of flavor or sweetness. There's a reason they haven't used things like Nutrasweet in 'regular' versions of soft drinks; it just isn't as good!
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Even if you have no interest in AMD's latest workstation chips, the review is worth checking out to see how two dozen of the fastest workstation and PC processors stack up in rendering, scientific computing, speech recognition, and even gaming tests."
In fact, nowhere do I see the implication that this would be a suite of tests regarding the Opteron's capability as a server processor. To quote the article itself:
First and foremost, we tested the Opteron 150 and 250 as workstation processors, not as server chips. Perhaps next time out we'll consider doing a suite of server-oriented benchmarks, but PC-based workstations are a more common part of our coverage around here.
Overall, I just don't think that you're the audience they intend to read the article. Still, you're not all Slashdotters, so I would assume (as the submitter probably did) that some people might benefit from it anyway. Hence, on Slashdot.
Who knows? If I was into gaming, I'd be following the gamers sites, not reading Slashdot.
No, you wouldn't, because gaming sites don't do comprehensive benchmarks of hardware on multiple processors and video cards. They do game reviews. If you're wondering which new processor or video card is going to give you the most bang for your buck on a game you are already planning to buy (or already have), that doesn't help much.
And if I'm not mistaken, Slashdot has a games section. I could say the same thing about music (re: every single iTunes- and Rio-oriented article). Slashdot is not limited to just server administrators and programmers (whether or not this is a bad thing in the first place, isn't the point). So, if an article doesn't cater to some people, is it really fair to bitch and moan that it doesn't do that for niche X?
Finally (and back to the main topic), TechReport is an enthusiast site. It doesn't handle every practice that products could be intended for, and doesn't handle all products for a given practice. Take it with a grain of salt.
Yep. It's almost-certain overclocking abilities have something to do with the lower voltage requirements for mobile chips and the testing methods used to handpick them. TechReport did a mini-article on that too, I think.
They test on games because the benchmarks are easy for them to perform (they've been doing the same set of tests for quite a while) and because they cater mostly to a game-playing audience. AMD almost always compares favorably to Intel in game tests.
Still, I agree that it would be nice to see benchmarks of 64-bit software running on a 64-bit operating system. Is UT2kX 64-bit ready for Linux?
This might sound like shameless karma whoring, but you're forgetting "mod me down if you want, but..."
Tanj! Someone let me know if we find a Ringworld.
protecting us against the terrible dangers of dihidrogen monoxide in our water supply. Our water needs to be clean and safe from all impurities!
I suppose it can also force the VA to pay very close attention to what is occuring in the animation and perform accordingly--In this way, the animation (driven by the director and animators) might have a bit more control over how the voicework is performed. But, IANAJVA (japanese voice actor), so take what I garner from DVD special features and general internet knowledge with a grain of salt. :)
Hey, can I borrow that machine to put some more chlorine in the gene pool while we're at it?
Maybe there's more truth to that than we think. After all, "there is no such thing as a free lunch."
You know, I read that at first as "...Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is carp..."
That reminds me that I hate the ones that beep loudly when the key is pressed.
I was actually quite impressed with that bit of technology being used. These days they'll cooperate with other dealers, trading between them (within proximity) to minimize milage losses, and still get to use whatever commission system they have in place (also, salesmen are the ones wanting the commissions, but the dealer doesn't really give a shit--if it can get you into their financing options through them too :) ).
But alas, it wasn't to be, and I did go elsewhere with no one running after (luckily I found an almost-like-new '99 from a private owner).
Funny, I seem to remember some expensive consoles a while back. Sega CD? 32X? TurboGrafx? Jaguar? NeoGeo?
I don't think a Nintendo system has ever debuted above the $200 price point. Systems used to come with pack-in games at launch too. These days that doesn't happen until right before the first round of price cuts.
Admittedly though, you didn't used to have to buy as many extra controllers or memory cards. The games used to cost more though!
This doesn't even get into the number of times "to have package A you MUST have package B and C and F" situations crop up. Want a sunroof? Say "hi" to your new factory 6-CD Changer! Oh, by the way, we couldn't find that without the luxury package as well, so that'll be another $500 for the leather interior.
and give you a discount to boot.
I would certainly hope that I don't have to pay for something that's not included in the car! I wouldn't call it a 'discount' either. Not only is it not true (you're not getting the car for any less than it is 'truly' worth), but it makes it sound like the dealer is doing you a favor by not charging you for something you didn't buy. We all know who's best interest the dealer is looking out for.
Not that I care. I'm awaiting it for the single player. :) If it's not ready yet, I don't want it yet.
Easy! You buy one computer for your office applications and music. Then, buy a separate one for your new games. This one has internet and a hard drive for patching and saving and modding. It could be fairly cheap, and you could even hook it up to a TV if you wanted to. Setting up game pads would be easy, as there's only one connector type and a limited number of things that everyone would program for in unison (some sort of a standards committee. Maybe they'd make a completely new controller port shape). You might even be able to run Linux on it!
Er... oh. We already have that.
I dunno, the contestants on Most eXtreme elimination Challenge seem to be having a great time.
Don't-get-eliminated!
The grandparent is speculating that decidedly most of the traffic through P2P applications is used to facilitate copyright infringement of movies, music, and games. Compared to the internet at large, this is not a lot of tcp/ip traffic, and there should be some way of eliminating illegal uses of the programs.
Also, you were quick to put words into his mouth. He never specifically stated that P2P application writers should be arrested, nor really even implied it.
Good job. You managed to call 80%+ of computer users in the workplace morons, with no factual basis.
Admittedly, there are more (and proportionally more, I would guess) user-friendly applications available for Windows than for Linux for the average user. However, I think the lack of adoption on workplace desktops has more to do with IT and bigwigs at employers not understanding or underestimating their workers' abilities on computers, as well as not communicating with them regarding their problems with the systems and Windows. If employees do not know there are alternatives, they don't complain or their complaints are not heard, for they have no comparison; that's just the way it is, if your computer crashes all the time!
Her analysis is going to be the right prediction, if she plans on keeping her job. So, bank on her being right more often than not. If it was going to die tomorrow, she probably would have had a more skeptical prediction, saying that XYZ corporation, among other large IT corps., have considered Linux, but have decided against deploying it on a large scale; they say it is too blah blah for their needs, and doesn't have ABC features that they require in today's competitive marketplace.
Contrast this with similar costs of having to fill up at the gas station once a week. People are, for all practical concerns, *required* to use gas on a regular basis to get where they need to go.
It's that damn Atkins diet driving up the price of milk and meat. >={ I wonder if breads are going down in price. Hey, someone find out if you can get 20pks of ramen for a buck now instead of 10!
In early 2000, 128MB PC133 (micron/crucial) was around $115. And at that price, it was a STEAL.
$455 a week? Where is the deviding line between a professional, and a semi-technical white-collar job (like say, computer draftsman). That's still a very low amount for base hourly pay, at $11.38/hr. What does middle-class America do, if they aren't considered an 'office worker' (that is not exempt), but clearly don't have a professional degree?
Thankfully, the $100k amount they bring up includes overtime pay, bringing the limit down for overly compensated pay to a much more reasonable before-overtime $60-80k rate.
Yes. (really, this is obvious, and you should know better; or alternatively, make your sarcasm more apparent *g*)
However, any time I've had a diet soda of almost ANY brand, I have been wholly underwhelmed at the lack of flavor or sweetness. There's a reason they haven't used things like Nutrasweet in 'regular' versions of soft drinks; it just isn't as good!