I used to think that voting was relatively constant over the years. That is, until I did a paper on it last semester. "voting as we have for the last few centuries" turns out to be totally inaccurate. Our voting systems have constantly been evolving over the past few centuries. I mean drastically. For a long time, the states of the US didn't even have a secret ballot. Voters stood on the steps of the court house and declared their vote to a recorder (vowing that they hadn't voted before in another town).
There have been many variations between where we were then, and where we are now. There will be more changes in the future. Hopefully each time will be a step forward, and not a step back.
(I lean toward electronic voting with VVPAT, and IRV or Condorcet. Not to mention mandatory random audits)
In most cases, I will agree with you. You are, however, throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Do you, however, want to use a tax-exempt religious organization to urge people to write their Congressional representation to take a specific action on a specific measure?
If the measure in question proposed murder of all infants under 5 months old in the states, then yes. I EXPECT them to. Such is their right to free speech.
Unfortunately for you, that's just lobbying and a blatantly inappropriate mix of religion and politics.
Speaking with a voice of practicality (as apposed to legality), it is not at all inappropriate under many circumstances. There are legitimate problems with mixing church in politics, or politics in church. Please try to solve these problems without taking away my constitutional rights.
...The same can be said of prostitution...
our government should be protecting our rights... unless there is an obvious, and scientifically-supported public health/safety reason to do otherwise.
I think you left a hole in your arguement. And, no, a problem does not need to be pandemic to be a public health/safety concern. (To stretch it a bit further, also bear in mind the current-age/liberal definition of of the word "health". It has changed over the last few years in both medical and legal terms.)
It's common enough to receive basic first aid and cpr training, but I've never heard of public schools teaching defibrillator use in the US. Certainly didn't happen in the schools I attended.
And the terms of the GPLv2 specifically allow for distribution under newer versions of the GPL.
As I recall, this is a huge misunderstanding. The "newer version" clause is not part of the gpl itself. It is instead something that the FSF itself recommends people publish on their works. Something like "you may use the gpl version 2 or any later version at your option." I'd look it up for you, but don't have the time. You can find it yourself here.
It's also nice when dealing with a language like python to know some of what c/c++ is doing behind the scenes. I'm certainly no expert in the python c api, but what little I know helps me keep things in perspective.
Their server seems to be taking a beating, so I can't get the exact URL. They have a decent tutorial. Just go to python.org-> documentation-> tutorial. If you are programming savy, you can just skim it, slowing down for unusual stuff.
The sys module has some interesting things in it that you might want access to early on. for example: sys.argv sys.stdin sys.stdout sys.stderr
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...My gut feeling is another amnesty combined with beefing up border security, penalties for hiring, and making a clearer path for above-board immigration. But illegals might see that as a green light (come over and wait for the next amnesty deal)...
If I understand correctly, that's already happened. The last amnesty bill that passed should have locked up our borders.
I've heard that imagration services were basically told to shut-up and stop enforcing the law (by individual congressmen in power, etc). So they did. If we do amnesty again, it will change nothing. The proof is in the pudding.
The same concept applies to KDE and it's KIO slaves. It gives applications an api to read/write to many file system types, including inside a zip file, and across ssh (fish://) !
No applications need special programming for any one of these, just for kio as a whole. This means that not only do you not need to change your program between supported platforms, but you don't need to do anything special if someone developes a new kio slave (I assume the same basic concept holds for gnome as well).
Yes, it was made with children in mind (except maybe ROUSes). However most of the humor in the movie goes entirely over the head of children. They do not understand that level of humor. It's not until the teenage years that it becomes apparent that it is humor from front to back.
I know what you're saying. I beg to differ. "Heck, even the people who quite possibly *did* pirate stuff, when sued, demanded to know which specific files RIAA was accusing them of pirating."
Yeah, but that was their lawers talking.
Seriously, I don't believe most users have REALLY heard about the lawsuits. They are just now starting to hear that there ARE lawsuits. This is based on personal experience (talking to people).
Yeah, that's what he meant. His joke wasn't very clear.
MS made XP reboot on every BSOD starting with service pack 2. Thank goodness for the boot menu F8->"Do not restart on system failure". Some problems would be nearly impossible to diagnose otherwise without an os reinstall.
I think that was close to his point. If you had a 14 year old in the house, most people would assume that the acusation had merit. You and I wouldn't, but the average parent would.
John Cage wrote a piece of music called 4'33", consisting of four minutes and thirty-three seconds of silence divided into 3 movements. Because it was performed as a work of music and accepted by its audience as a work of music, it was music. It has also been discussed ever since by musicians and by people that study music, adding weight to its status as a musical composition (it becomes music itself when it is performed and listened to).
I disagree with your definition of music. Music, in my opinion, is a language or means to convey emotion. Silence conveys nothing, but takes on whatever color someone brings into it. It is not art, but philosophy.
...Even if what's being played is one of Beethoven's great symphonies, something with sound, with notes, with all kinds of recognizable musical elements, it's not being used as music (there is a composition, but only questionably a performance or audience); therefore its status as "music" is in question.
No it isn't. It's status as a performance is in question, but not it's status as music. It still conveys the same feeling and emotions. If one chooses to be an audience, those feelings will be comunicated to you. Therefore, it is still music. The recording itself may be concidered a performance if the artists truly tried to convey music. Most "elevator music" may be questioned. But music that is mis-used (tounge-in-check) is still music.
Although I disagree with some of the theology of the AC who posted before me, I do agree with the general feel of his post.
As one of these "defective" people, I've often wondered about this myself. The end result, is that much of our survival is attributed to the same religious nutjobs that are trying to push creationism over natural selection in our schools.
Some are nutjobs, yes. Most of the nutjobs that "much of our survival is attributed to" are not really religious. They just need to pretend to be to continue to hold office or prestige.
All human life is treated as sacred, regardless of just how far gone each particular human life is. All out of fear of judgement from a god that may not even exist beyond the human mind.
Fair argument. I'd rather that to the alternative. (holding all life sacred as apposed to selectively choosing)
Of course, this isn't performed selflessly. Often times, these same people will try to guilt us for being an unnecessary burden on society...
A different group of people I think. They're wrong none-the-less.
...or claim that our disability is the direct result of their god's divine punishment for sins we've committed/or are about to commit. (Such as the eventual rejection of the religion that repeatedly has shunned them in some form or another.)
This has really got to stop on their part. I've never heard any biblical reason to even begin to suggest punishment before crime. It does not surprise me that some teach this, but it is truly ludicrous (and unfounded).
Furthermore, they CANNOT say that it is punishment of any kind with any degree of certainty (If you need to argue with them, point them to John 9:1-3).
Be VERY careful about this phrase and concept: "...the religion..." . Christianity is not a religion. It is a set of religions that have a common base (just like Judaism and Islam). You CANNOT fairly paint all Christianity with any given brush. Just about any statement you make about Christianity WILL be false for one sect or another somewhere (if not false for most denominations).
The fact is, neither I, nor anyone else with a similar condition *asked* to be born as flawed beings. It was forced upon us without our consideration or consent.
That is arguable, depending on which flavor of Christianity you consider. There are possible eternal gains to be had. Again, this is making a lot of assumptions (existence of God, continuity of human existence after death, etc). You may simply have seen an advantage to a harder road, or have been asked to fill a harder job. Without knowing everything, such conjecture (and counter conjecture) will not get us anywhere through reason.
So when the time comes where demands payment for our survival in the form of baptism under their rules and we refuse, we're seen as embittered, ungrateful asshats for rejecting their definition of god.
I think I refuse "their" definition of God too (assuming you've given me an accurate portrayal). Though admittedly, you do sound "embittered".
I will not belittle the value of baptism, but if you don't think the teachings of that denomination are true (whichever it is), then simply don't get baptized there. It would be a worthless and meaningless gesture. I'd just suggest that you don't entirely dismiss the idea of baptism at some point down the road. It must be what you want, and not what somebody wants for you.
And, in some sense, they're exactly right. Why should I be greatful to sadistic, omnipotent being who supposed has it within their power to prevent such severe disabilities, but chooses not to under the guise of serving some "greater purpose"? After all, I never asked for it, and no one ever consulted me ahead of time to tell me about the "fine pri
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"What do you get if you multiply six by nine?" Arthur then comments, "I've always said there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe."
(ironically, 6*9 does == 42 in base 13...)
I used to think that voting was relatively constant over the years. That is, until I did a paper on it last semester. "voting as we have for the last few centuries" turns out to be totally inaccurate. Our voting systems have constantly been evolving over the past few centuries. I mean drastically. For a long time, the states of the US didn't even have a secret ballot. Voters stood on the steps of the court house and declared their vote to a recorder (vowing that they hadn't voted before in another town).
There have been many variations between where we were then, and where we are now. There will be more changes in the future. Hopefully each time will be a step forward, and not a step back.
(I lean toward electronic voting with VVPAT, and IRV or Condorcet. Not to mention mandatory random audits)
If the measure in question proposed murder of all infants under 5 months old in the states, then yes. I EXPECT them to. Such is their right to free speech.
Speaking with a voice of practicality (as apposed to legality), it is not at all inappropriate under many circumstances. There are legitimate problems with mixing church in politics, or politics in church. Please try to solve these problems without taking away my constitutional rights.
Thanks.
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I think you left a hole in your arguement. And, no, a problem does not need to be pandemic to be a public health/safety concern.
(To stretch it a bit further, also bear in mind the current-age/liberal definition of of the word "health". It has changed over the last few years in both medical and legal terms.)
Yes they have, unless there is an exception that I don't know about.
(they haven't banned gambling in person, though many states have).
It's common enough to receive basic first aid and cpr training, but I've never heard of public schools teaching defibrillator use in the US. Certainly didn't happen in the schools I attended.
Hardly.
(But close. Same thing happened with the first one)
As I recall, this is a huge misunderstanding. The "newer version" clause is not part of the gpl itself. It is instead something that the FSF itself recommends people publish on their works. Something like "you may use the gpl version 2 or any later version at your option." I'd look it up for you, but don't have the time. You can find it yourself here.
Or: if a==b then "first option" else "second option"
Although that would mean adding a new keyword.
Still, I'll take what I can get.
It's also nice when dealing with a language like python to know some of what c/c++ is doing behind the scenes. I'm certainly no expert in the python c api, but what little I know helps me keep things in perspective.
Hey!
This is a time and place for us python nut-cases. Ruby wackos can go release thier own new versions...
(Just messing with you, but your comment was a cheep shot)
Their server seems to be taking a beating, so I can't get the exact URL. They have a decent tutorial. Just go to python.org-> documentation-> tutorial. If you are programming savy, you can just skim it, slowing down for unusual stuff.
The sys module has some interesting things in it that you might want access to early on. for example:
sys.argv
sys.stdin
sys.stdout
sys.stderr
It is good to finally see inline conditions such as:
This just makes me happy!
I've heard that imagration services were basically told to shut-up and stop enforcing the law (by individual congressmen in power, etc). So they did. If we do amnesty again, it will change nothing. The proof is in the pudding.
At least in the states, mandatory voting would be bad. "Mandatory caring" (not possible) would be decent though...
The same concept applies to KDE and it's KIO slaves. It gives applications an api to read/write to many file system types, including inside a zip file, and across ssh (fish://) !
No applications need special programming for any one of these, just for kio as a whole. This means that not only do you not need to change your program between supported platforms, but you don't need to do anything special if someone developes a new kio slave (I assume the same basic concept holds for gnome as well).
Yes, it was made with children in mind (except maybe ROUSes). However most of the humor in the movie goes entirely over the head of children. They do not understand that level of humor. It's not until the teenage years that it becomes apparent that it is humor from front to back.
Interesting, I always thought everyone uses letter size.
Thank you for enlightening me. Now I'm going to need to decide which country (or countries) are backwards on this front.
(And don't tell me just because everyone else does, the US is backwards. That would be non sequiter. I'll probably find that anyway.)
I know what you're saying. I beg to differ. "Heck, even the people who quite possibly *did* pirate stuff, when sued, demanded to know which specific files RIAA was accusing them of pirating."
Yeah, but that was their lawers talking.
Seriously, I don't believe most users have REALLY heard about the lawsuits. They are just now starting to hear that there ARE lawsuits. This is based on personal experience (talking to people).
Yeah, that's what he meant. His joke wasn't very clear.
MS made XP reboot on every BSOD starting with service pack 2. Thank goodness for the boot menu F8->"Do not restart on system failure". Some problems would be nearly impossible to diagnose otherwise without an os reinstall.
I think that was close to his point. If you had a 14 year old in the house, most people would assume that the acusation had merit. You and I wouldn't, but the average parent would.
I would far rather have IRV than our current system. A condorcet system would be prefered, but IRV would be a huge leap in the right dirrection.
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I wish I had mod points just now.
I disagree with your definition of music. Music, in my opinion, is a language or means to convey emotion. Silence conveys nothing, but takes on whatever color someone brings into it. It is not art, but philosophy.
No it isn't. It's status as a performance is in question, but not it's status as music. It still conveys the same feeling and emotions. If one chooses to be an audience, those feelings will be comunicated to you. Therefore, it is still music. The recording itself may be concidered a performance if the artists truly tried to convey music. Most "elevator music" may be questioned. But music that is mis-used (tounge-in-check) is still music.
Some are nutjobs, yes. Most of the nutjobs that "much of our survival is attributed to" are not really religious. They just need to pretend to be to continue to hold office or prestige.
Fair argument. I'd rather that to the alternative. (holding all life sacred as apposed to selectively choosing)
A different group of people I think. They're wrong none-the-less.
This has really got to stop on their part. I've never heard any biblical reason to even begin to suggest punishment before crime. It does not surprise me that some teach this, but it is truly ludicrous (and unfounded).
Furthermore, they CANNOT say that it is punishment of any kind with any degree of certainty (If you need to argue with them, point them to John 9:1-3).
Be VERY careful about this phrase and concept: "...the religion..." . Christianity is not a religion. It is a set of religions that have a common base (just like Judaism and Islam). You CANNOT fairly paint all Christianity with any given brush. Just about any statement you make about Christianity WILL be false for one sect or another somewhere (if not false for most denominations).
That is arguable, depending on which flavor of Christianity you consider. There are possible eternal gains to be had. Again, this is making a lot of assumptions (existence of God, continuity of human existence after death, etc). You may simply have seen an advantage to a harder road, or have been asked to fill a harder job. Without knowing everything, such conjecture (and counter conjecture) will not get us anywhere through reason.
I think I refuse "their" definition of God too (assuming you've given me an accurate portrayal). Though admittedly, you do sound "embittered".
I will not belittle the value of baptism, but if you don't think the teachings of that denomination are true (whichever it is), then simply don't get baptized there. It would be a worthless and meaningless gesture. I'd just suggest that you don't entirely dismiss the idea of baptism at some point down the road. It must be what you want, and not what somebody wants for you.