Those are a _few_ people who paint _themselves_ for a _specific_ event and for a very _limited time_. How does that compare to plastering an impression of your flag on pretty much everything from space-ships to hot-dog bun packaging?
> I guess its different elsewhere but we surrounded ourselves with the symbols of our freedom when we split from England, notice all the flags pictured then and the importance of some in song?
Someone pointed out that those people did not have much in ways of common culture or just anything so they needed a substitute. I think your point and his go along very nicely.
> You did highlight the major difference though, we don't have to do it but we do so out of our own free will. Because of that we may seem excessive but there should never be anything wrong with such pride in one's country.
We are not saying it's wrong. We just don't get it at the emotional level. But there is one issue: Very, very often, said flag appears to be a common sigil for some patriotic zealots. Those are bad no matter which country, religion, football team or choice of floral pattern they base their fanatism on. Also, while being proud of one's respective social rings is a human trait, it does not make much sense to be _proud_ about anything outside of the one or two innermost ones (familu, close friends, etc). At least not unless you contributed in some substantial manner. If you did, then that's fine. I suspect most people didn't, though.
> It would be more embarrassing to me to live somewhere where I would not feel comfortable showing it
Why? In many countries, running around with your flag is a pretty clear sign that you belong to the fanatic zealots I mentioned above. It's nice that you choose that particular piece of cloth to base your feeling of "us" on. Why not let us choose us a different one? And as the flag is usually taken by fanatics, we would rather not use that.
> If your allegiance is only to the flag, and not to anything really worth fighting for, then sooner or later you'll find yourself supporting someone truly loathsome just because they're the ones waving that flag.
Nah, that won't happen. Just look at what they did to Bush. Oh, wait..
> If your allegiance is only to the flag, and not to anything really worth fighting for, then sooner or later you'll find yourself supporting someone truly loathsome just because they're the ones waving that flag.
Nah, that won't happen. Just look at what they did to Bush. Oh, wait..
They have to draw the line somewhere. The best, easiest, whatever place is at "no modifications at all". The military does, of course, have a proper photo of her: http://www.army.mil/-images/2008/06/30/25522/ -- she is a general, after all. They should have used that. And chances are, next time, they will.
> Wish I lived in such a culture.
i doubt you do. Storytelling is a good thing, a social thing, one that can make you think, interact and develop yourself and your surroundings. The fact that you can use it to spin and that 99% of TV is crap (and I am saying that as a German. Our TV is a bedrock of saneness in comparission to anything in Canada, let alone the US) does not mean that the media is bad. Just the way it's used.
It's not about lying about the contents of that one pic. It is a clear message that (from now on?) they will not accept _any_ altered pics. Or they are spinning the story to get brownie points. Nobody knows but them.
You still don't get it, do you? The whole financial crisis has been a huge success. At 25+% margins _per quarter_ for several years in a row, the people who actually did this are drowning in _personal_ wealth. And when it comes right down to it, that is all that matters to them. Especially since they will not have to pay anything back or go to jail for this. They really and truly won.
> employment rates are higher because manufacturing companies like to locate in rural areas to keep labor costs down, etc. In cities, [...] jobless rates are higher because cost of living keeps wages high which causes companies to outsource and automate more.
Unless Ohio is _very_ different from pretty much all of Europe, let me just quote you directly "The bottom line is, the majority of this country is full of morons who don't think things through."
I would probably get two large-ish, but cheap, machines. Throw Xen on both and let them share a volume. This has the advantage that:
a) You don't spend much money b) You have a backup machine if one burns down c) You can play with moving domUs while they are running d) You can install and play with a bazillion VMs e) You can easily back up a whole system, do stuff and revert
Of course, you don't want to do this if your hardware needs are specific in any way.
Mickey Mouse just turned 80. They will need to prolong the protection time soon. That is when the people not in the US start laughing & using Mickey Mouse freely. Unless the WTO manages to impose 1000 year terms on us all.
I am looking for a specific sketch. It might or might not have been called "French Art Film". It shows a woman in a white dress, standing and sitting around a landfill. From lots of angles. Often. They have a close-up of a chair, standing on heaps of trash. Again, the woman. More perspectives. Then a soldier in a Vietnam chopper, firing his machine gun. End of sketch.
I have been looking for this one for more than a decade and I could not find it. If you would help me, I would be a *happy camper* and finally able to *enjoy the sauce*.
It has a Quake 4 video which you sit through thinking "why did you stick that in front of what I want to see a video of". Then the video ends and you realize that they just put it there for nothing. Yay.
..but the original TF was a Valve product from day one. It even came on the original disc. You know, the software version where the guided RPG had not yet been nerfed. The version where I dominated _any_ map by just standing on a RPG ammo spawn point with a good view of the level and killed everything in sight or just out of sight. Sadly, they 'fixed' this in the very first patch:(
The reaction of my brother: "Argh, damn you! Time. Hole. Gone." After that, he did not say much more as the only path out of the south-east corner of the universe was a tiny corridor between Silicoid & Sakkra..
PS: If someone does not know what that means, Silicoid & Sakkra are amongst the races which expand fastest, by far.
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More to the point, it did not merely involve those. They are all you need.
People like GP, yah ;)
Those are a _few_ people who paint _themselves_ for a _specific_ event and for a very _limited time_. How does that compare to plastering an impression of your flag on pretty much everything from space-ships to hot-dog bun packaging?
> I guess its different elsewhere but we surrounded ourselves with the symbols of our freedom when we split from England, notice all the flags pictured then and the importance of some in song?
Someone pointed out that those people did not have much in ways of common culture or just anything so they needed a substitute. I think your point and his go along very nicely.
> You did highlight the major difference though, we don't have to do it but we do so out of our own free will. Because of that we may seem excessive but there should never be anything wrong with such pride in one's country.
We are not saying it's wrong. We just don't get it at the emotional level.
But there is one issue: Very, very often, said flag appears to be a common sigil for some patriotic zealots. Those are bad no matter which country, religion, football team or choice of floral pattern they base their fanatism on.
Also, while being proud of one's respective social rings is a human trait, it does not make much sense to be _proud_ about anything outside of the one or two innermost ones (familu, close friends, etc). At least not unless you contributed in some substantial manner. If you did, then that's fine. I suspect most people didn't, though.
> It would be more embarrassing to me to live somewhere where I would not feel comfortable showing it
Why? In many countries, running around with your flag is a pretty clear sign that you belong to the fanatic zealots I mentioned above. It's nice that you choose that particular piece of cloth to base your feeling of "us" on. Why not let us choose us a different one? And as the flag is usually taken by fanatics, we would rather not use that.
> If your allegiance is only to the flag, and not to anything really worth fighting for, then sooner or later you'll find yourself supporting someone truly loathsome just because they're the ones waving that flag.
Nah, that won't happen. Just look at what they did to Bush. Oh, wait..
> If your allegiance is only to the flag, and not to anything really worth fighting for, then sooner or later you'll find yourself supporting someone truly loathsome just because they're the ones waving that flag. Nah, that won't happen. Just look at what they did to Bush. Oh, wait..
They have to draw the line somewhere. The best, easiest, whatever place is at "no modifications at all". The military does, of course, have a proper photo of her: http://www.army.mil/-images/2008/06/30/25522/ -- she is a general, after all. They should have used that. And chances are, next time, they will.
> Wish I lived in such a culture. i doubt you do. Storytelling is a good thing, a social thing, one that can make you think, interact and develop yourself and your surroundings. The fact that you can use it to spin and that 99% of TV is crap (and I am saying that as a German. Our TV is a bedrock of saneness in comparission to anything in Canada, let alone the US) does not mean that the media is bad. Just the way it's used.
It's not about lying about the contents of that one pic. It is a clear message that (from now on?) they will not accept _any_ altered pics. Or they are spinning the story to get brownie points. Nobody knows but them.
I wonder why you would patent the sliced wheel.
You still don't get it, do you? The whole financial crisis has been a huge success. At 25+% margins _per quarter_ for several years in a row, the people who actually did this are drowning in _personal_ wealth. And when it comes right down to it, that is all that matters to them. Especially since they will not have to pay anything back or go to jail for this. They really and truly won.
> employment rates are higher because manufacturing companies like to locate in rural areas to keep labor costs down, etc. In cities, [...] jobless rates are higher because cost of living keeps wages high which causes companies to outsource and automate more.
Unless Ohio is _very_ different from pretty much all of Europe, let me just quote you directly "The bottom line is, the majority of this country is full of morons who don't think things through."
I would probably get two large-ish, but cheap, machines. Throw Xen on both and let them share a volume. This has the advantage that:
a) You don't spend much money
b) You have a backup machine if one burns down
c) You can play with moving domUs while they are running
d) You can install and play with a bazillion VMs
e) You can easily back up a whole system, do stuff and revert
Of course, you don't want to do this if your hardware needs are specific in any way.
..of a few, large, hairy baboons entering the kennel and sniffing at the chimpanzees.
Mickey Mouse just turned 80. They will need to prolong the protection time soon. That is when the people not in the US start laughing & using Mickey Mouse freely. Unless the WTO manages to impose 1000 year terms on us all.
That's OK. I was about to ask what movie that pic was from.
Said birds would also be plucked and chopped, already.
Thanks. Though I shouldn't have asked. Of course, it is not near as funny as I remembered. What did you google for?
I know one formation those space ships will not fly in..
I am looking for a specific sketch. It might or might not have been called "French Art Film". It shows a woman in a white dress, standing and sitting around a landfill. From lots of angles. Often. They have a close-up of a chair, standing on heaps of trash. Again, the woman. More perspectives. Then a soldier in a Vietnam chopper, firing his machine gun. End of sketch.
I have been looking for this one for more than a decade and I could not find it. If you would help me, I would be a *happy camper* and finally able to *enjoy the sauce*.
It has a Quake 4 video which you sit through thinking "why did you stick that in front of what I want to see a video of". Then the video ends and you realize that they just put it there for nothing. Yay.
Preferably, said new propulsion system could run on lead.
..but the original TF was a Valve product from day one. It even came on the original disc. You know, the software version where the guided RPG had not yet been nerfed. The version where I dominated _any_ map by just standing on a RPG ammo spawn point with a good view of the level and killed everything in sight or just out of sight. Sadly, they 'fixed' this in the very first patch :(
You imply that I am a good guy. I object that statement.
The reaction of my brother: "Argh, damn you! Time. Hole. Gone." After that, he did not say much more as the only path out of the south-east corner of the universe was a tiny corridor between Silicoid & Sakkra.. PS: If someone does not know what that means, Silicoid & Sakkra are amongst the races which expand fastest, by far.