It is not about being able to merely watch a copyrighted work it is though about making a derivative work. If I was to release something that was an exact or close to exact copy of an existing work then that work would be just as exciting / popular as mine, that is not what I want it is my own name to be up in lights. Complaining that this copyright is just about watching something that someone else made and not giving them some kind of compensation or recognition is not the argument it is though whether or not we can take portions of it and derive it to our own. This is what makes the difference between something someone else does and what we do since I can make a frame by frame copy of a work and release it to the public but since the original is public they can go behind my back and watch that one for free;)
It is not about meerly watching something without their permission we have already nailed that down, it is about being able to experiment with them and showing them to the public that is what we have never been able to do.
It is not about taking an older work and redistributing it, it is about being able to take a work and refine it to our creativity. Lets say someone took a piece of work and redistributed it whole, intact under their own name do you think they would get the credit or the original which they could just as easily obtain? The problem is we have not crossed the threshold where we have had such work to plagiarize only then would the community really realize the potential of these works.
Maybe surrounded by other intellectuals they discovered a way to escape the planet or call other intelligent species from other planets to get them out of here. Then come back every once in a while and give us anal probes.
How will that incur labor costs? It's not like they have to hire someone to stand by waiting for your specked hardware to come in. Like most companies of scale they separate and sort the hardware as it comes in if your request leads to an empty bin then check again tomorrow.
Doesn't anyone here find it mildly ironic that a nation that monitors all of thier citizens data behind closed doors is sending computers to help another county overcome the exact same burden?
Every one has their own tastes but just because someone is listening to their music of choice does not mean they are incapable to communication. It is still very simple to make eye contact and it shows you might have something to say, at which point I remove my head phones and start talking. You have to remember programming involves quite a bit of personal thought and some people are more efficient when there is a stability in terms of ambient sound. It is not always that the music its self is the source of the concentration but it can help to establish a baseline where someone can truly allow their mind to focus. I can speak for myself that when I'm on a roll it can help tremendously, especially in circumstances when colleagues are on the phone often for what ever reason.
I never made that relation. The reason I mentioned the UID was in hopes that it would carry more weight with the sites editors. Many of the low UID's can remember where the site came from and maybe they can help to inspire Taco et al to bring it back.
Thirds over here. Maybe if we get some low UID's involved in this thread we can bump the IQ of the Slash Populous a notch above rather than debating evilness and iphones.
Right now most if not all major carriers offer some sort USB stick that connects to their networks, this opens up to Windows and (not sure of support) possibly Linux. This opens the door to the 'dreaded' bitTorrent protocol and of course malware and viruses running from laptops, netbooks, et al. So as form factors get smaller and smaller what is stopping me from making my own mobile device out of off the shelf components? VOIP and net access is really the fundamental building blocks for these devices and as this becomes more apparent more manufactures will be getting into the market.
Maybe one day Asus will come up with a smaller netbook and a baseband chip / usb slot? Maybe some one else will do the same? The components required to make such devices are getting more and more generalized, cheaper and easier for the end consumer to get their hands on (call China;) ) . These providers should start taking their network and their advertised capabilities more seriously now, give it another 5 years and people will start demanding their advertised speeds rather than just shrugging and waiting while the download ticks.
These providers have it easy now selling people some imaginary 10-20mb/s network so they can email and twitter but it's going to catch up to them quick and make people look for alternatives. So open source phones will not fail but will be reincarnated when ARM really starts ramping up its low power alternatives and companies start pumping out their SoC designs.
I know it sounds like a "Year of the Linux!" type post but Linux is the most fluid solution right now and with the right hardware its small, quick, tested and easy to deploy and update so it is the right solution but it will be waiting in the wings for a bit longer.
For all the press this game is getting I'm pretty sure they will resurrect the character and he can go on with his life, maybe if their nice they'll give him a couple of virtual bucks to buy a new virtual life which he could really use. I personally think proposing a jail sentence is retarded, giving this kind of thing such a 'real world' significance just provides a false sense of security to people who want to cry to law enforcement every time someone steps on their virtual property. Next thing you know we start seeing law suits of trespass and attempted robbery when a bunch of kids virtually gang up on someone else (virtually of course) and makes someones virtual life a bit more difficult.
It's not really the format or protocol that will change things here it's data vs voice service. The carriers world wide have been charging a premium for phone calls just because it's a voice call, for Google to launch their service it will need to exist on a data network. This will lead to better quality data network in terms of latency and QOS and slowly kill off what we now call a "phone call". This alone will set up a network anyone can get into and provide their own service with out the little guy having to fight it out with the carriers since the network will already be there. So weather they actually offer VOIP or something different they still need to route the call via the Internet rather than POTS, when that happens it's really anyones game.
So your saying the only reason you don't code in asm is that another archetecture might be popular in 5 years? That's a joke you program in what ever the guy who signs your checks says is good like everyone else. If you call your own shots and assembly is still no good you haven't been at it long enough to make any good libraries. Either way don't start telling us it's no good cause something better might show up in 5 years. Your going to have to recode it by then any ways cause it's gonna be worth it when you do.
Exactly! The only thing Google is offering here is a soupped up VOIP solution. Once google breaks in the carriers then it's open game for everyone else. Let them get into the market and maybe we can crack this nut.
How can someone fault you for not signing something? What ever the retard told him that was confidential before signing the NDA was his / her own dumb fault.
So what they are trying to say is that kids know that they are being lured into danger and did not have someone to tell? Thats complete bull shit. The idea behind all of this that many here will understand is social engineering. Those who want these kids to do something or go somewhere is because the kid thinks it is ok, it's not like some person pops up on their screen and tells them to step out side so they can kidnap them. The whole idea of a button that circumvents the parents just gives the kids more room to be misguided in their actions.
What I think can and will help is a setup with browser and IM that each base URL and 'friend request' must be added one at a time by a parents user name password. You want to goto www.XYZ.com, mommy/daddy have to put in their user name password and it is added to a white list. You want to add 'littlestevie09'? Allow the person requesting the add to enter a phone number so your mom / dad can call the parents up and confirm with the person who they are (what class is your kid in, what's the name of the school, what's your teachers name...) then add them. Once the parents have talked to eachother then if 'littlestevie09' starts to be an ass then your parents can call the kids parents up and talk about it.
Giving a child control of what they feel is good or bad with out making them discuss it with their parents first is dangerous and dumb. It's like the idea that parents start to give their kids cell phones to bring with them where ever they go. Don't get me wrong it's not a completely stupid thing to do but in a time where a quick descision must be made you don't want them to be trying to dial a number you want them to get the hell out of there, that should be their first instinct, a cell phone does not give you physical protection. An attacker would have that cell chucked out the window in a heart beat, if they run to a house on the street or at least run back to where they came from (school, friends house...) they can at least call who ever from the safety of a house with an adult close by and take it from there.
These panic buttons are useless in the hands of children because they don't really know when to panic or what situations cause panic. Thats why we hear stories of little kids being lured out to see a pony or something like that because they think mom and dad will piss on their parade. If the parents actually talked to each person / parent of, that the kid was adding and had to actually enter a user name password to get it done then the chances of assholes talking to kids would be slim to none and if they did the parents actually have a phone number where that person could be reached.
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It is not about being able to merely watch a copyrighted work it is though about making a derivative work. If I was to release something that was an exact or close to exact copy of an existing work then that work would be just as exciting / popular as mine, that is not what I want it is my own name to be up in lights. Complaining that this copyright is just about watching something that someone else made and not giving them some kind of compensation or recognition is not the argument it is though whether or not we can take portions of it and derive it to our own. This is what makes the difference between something someone else does and what we do since I can make a frame by frame copy of a work and release it to the public but since the original is public they can go behind my back and watch that one for free ;)
It is not about meerly watching something without their permission we have already nailed that down, it is about being able to experiment with them and showing them to the public that is what we have never been able to do.
It is not about taking an older work and redistributing it, it is about being able to take a work and refine it to our creativity. Lets say someone took a piece of work and redistributed it whole, intact under their own name do you think they would get the credit or the original which they could just as easily obtain? The problem is we have not crossed the threshold where we have had such work to plagiarize only then would the community really realize the potential of these works.
Prove it bitch, way to intimidate the Internet masses, you tough guy you.
The coward has spoken!! Take HEED!
Maybe surrounded by other intellectuals they discovered a way to escape the planet or call other intelligent species from other planets to get them out of here. Then come back every once in a while and give us anal probes.
The public demands an answer!!!
How will that incur labor costs? It's not like they have to hire someone to stand by waiting for your specked hardware to come in. Like most companies of scale they separate and sort the hardware as it comes in if your request leads to an empty bin then check again tomorrow.
3 pixels should be enough for anyone.
The kernel multitasks fine its the window manager and the UI that won't allow it. If you jail break it you can multitask all you want.
there is essentially no difference between believing you're free and actually being free
That's a real quote to keep. I'm scared and disgusted at the same time.
Doesn't anyone here find it mildly ironic that a nation that monitors all of thier citizens data behind closed doors is sending computers to help another county overcome the exact same burden?
Try explaining to them what a daemon is they'll never be able to run one on a linux box.... o wait...
Every one has their own tastes but just because someone is listening to their music of choice does not mean they are incapable to communication. It is still very simple to make eye contact and it shows you might have something to say, at which point I remove my head phones and start talking. You have to remember programming involves quite a bit of personal thought and some people are more efficient when there is a stability in terms of ambient sound. It is not always that the music its self is the source of the concentration but it can help to establish a baseline where someone can truly allow their mind to focus. I can speak for myself that when I'm on a roll it can help tremendously, especially in circumstances when colleagues are on the phone often for what ever reason.
I never made that relation. The reason I mentioned the UID was in hopes that it would carry more weight with the sites editors. Many of the low UID's can remember where the site came from and maybe they can help to inspire Taco et al to bring it back.
Thirds over here. Maybe if we get some low UID's involved in this thread we can bump the IQ of the Slash Populous a notch above rather than debating evilness and iphones.
Just a thought....
Right now most if not all major carriers offer some sort USB stick that connects to their networks, this opens up to Windows and (not sure of support) possibly Linux. This opens the door to the 'dreaded' bitTorrent protocol and of course malware and viruses running from laptops, netbooks, et al. So as form factors get smaller and smaller what is stopping me from making my own mobile device out of off the shelf components? VOIP and net access is really the fundamental building blocks for these devices and as this becomes more apparent more manufactures will be getting into the market.
;) ) . These providers should start taking their network and their advertised capabilities more seriously now, give it another 5 years and people will start demanding their advertised speeds rather than just shrugging and waiting while the download ticks.
Maybe one day Asus will come up with a smaller netbook and a baseband chip / usb slot? Maybe some one else will do the same? The components required to make such devices are getting more and more generalized, cheaper and easier for the end consumer to get their hands on (call China
These providers have it easy now selling people some imaginary 10-20mb/s network so they can email and twitter but it's going to catch up to them quick and make people look for alternatives. So open source phones will not fail but will be reincarnated when ARM really starts ramping up its low power alternatives and companies start pumping out their SoC designs.
I know it sounds like a "Year of the Linux!" type post but Linux is the most fluid solution right now and with the right hardware its small, quick, tested and easy to deploy and update so it is the right solution but it will be waiting in the wings for a bit longer.
For all the press this game is getting I'm pretty sure they will resurrect the character and he can go on with his life, maybe if their nice they'll give him a couple of virtual bucks to buy a new virtual life which he could really use. I personally think proposing a jail sentence is retarded, giving this kind of thing such a 'real world' significance just provides a false sense of security to people who want to cry to law enforcement every time someone steps on their virtual property. Next thing you know we start seeing law suits of trespass and attempted robbery when a bunch of kids virtually gang up on someone else (virtually of course) and makes someones virtual life a bit more difficult.
It's not really the format or protocol that will change things here it's data vs voice service. The carriers world wide have been charging a premium for phone calls just because it's a voice call, for Google to launch their service it will need to exist on a data network. This will lead to better quality data network in terms of latency and QOS and slowly kill off what we now call a "phone call". This alone will set up a network anyone can get into and provide their own service with out the little guy having to fight it out with the carriers since the network will already be there. So weather they actually offer VOIP or something different they still need to route the call via the Internet rather than POTS, when that happens it's really anyones game.
So your saying the only reason you don't code in asm is that another archetecture might be popular in 5 years? That's a joke you program in what ever the guy who signs your checks says is good like everyone else. If you call your own shots and assembly is still no good you haven't been at it long enough to make any good libraries. Either way don't start telling us it's no good cause something better might show up in 5 years. Your going to have to recode it by then any ways cause it's gonna be worth it when you do.
Exactly! The only thing Google is offering here is a soupped up VOIP solution. Once google breaks in the carriers then it's open game for everyone else. Let them get into the market and maybe we can crack this nut.
While I do agree with that if he does require any kind of health care while he is there who is going to pay for it?
How can someone fault you for not signing something? What ever the retard told him that was confidential before signing the NDA was his / her own dumb fault.
So what they are trying to say is that kids know that they are being lured into danger and did not have someone to tell? Thats complete bull shit. The idea behind all of this that many here will understand is social engineering. Those who want these kids to do something or go somewhere is because the kid thinks it is ok, it's not like some person pops up on their screen and tells them to step out side so they can kidnap them. The whole idea of a button that circumvents the parents just gives the kids more room to be misguided in their actions.
What I think can and will help is a setup with browser and IM that each base URL and 'friend request' must be added one at a time by a parents user name password. You want to goto www.XYZ.com, mommy/daddy have to put in their user name password and it is added to a white list. You want to add 'littlestevie09'? Allow the person requesting the add to enter a phone number so your mom / dad can call the parents up and confirm with the person who they are (what class is your kid in, what's the name of the school, what's your teachers name...) then add them. Once the parents have talked to eachother then if 'littlestevie09' starts to be an ass then your parents can call the kids parents up and talk about it.
Giving a child control of what they feel is good or bad with out making them discuss it with their parents first is dangerous and dumb. It's like the idea that parents start to give their kids cell phones to bring with them where ever they go. Don't get me wrong it's not a completely stupid thing to do but in a time where a quick descision must be made you don't want them to be trying to dial a number you want them to get the hell out of there, that should be their first instinct, a cell phone does not give you physical protection. An attacker would have that cell chucked out the window in a heart beat, if they run to a house on the street or at least run back to where they came from (school, friends house...) they can at least call who ever from the safety of a house with an adult close by and take it from there.
These panic buttons are useless in the hands of children because they don't really know when to panic or what situations cause panic. Thats why we hear stories of little kids being lured out to see a pony or something like that because they think mom and dad will piss on their parade. If the parents actually talked to each person / parent of, that the kid was adding and had to actually enter a user name password to get it done then the chances of assholes talking to kids would be slim to none and if they did the parents actually have a phone number where that person could be reached.