That this guy must be grasping for the last bit of attention he can muster...
couple of points for the FUD master... Open Source software itself has never been around to make any money, businesses take it over other alternatives and apply it to thier business model. Nothing is hidden. Could it be that software has gotten as far as it can go?? I don't think so but people that probably dont even understand what code is are here saying that it is against "IP" Well who's IP *yours* ?? no if the GPL and those who contributed to descided tomorrow to patent the whole thing and make it closed source would it make you happier? I doubt it. You know why its because the power house (i.e M$) arent comming up with anything to distract these companies in terms of innovation to stop them from going open source. These companies are happy to write off expenses and know that they have someone to beat with a stick, if something goes wrong, but an option that has no real corporate sponsorship like open source is being chosen over closed source?
And you say that is the fault of Open Source ?? Get a life buddy!!
I have a word of advice for you go back to the drawing board and come up with something better and they will buy it our economy has no problem putting $$ down for stuff tehy dont need maybe, just maybe you can pull something our of your *ass* that some one will want to buy till then *Shut up*
Now if we look at the garbage that they will be sending over our precious P2P networks they do have to make some choices...
What protocol??
What file names do they impersonate?, if this is done manually that would definately suck
Will they be able to avoid file hashing (used by E-Mule et al)
even if they can P2P *Pirates* can also use special naming conventions try adding a special chars
Now other than polluting the network and assuming this gets enough hype (RIAA will *love* this) they should be able to get bandwith no probs..
but other wise all they have is some kazaa kiddies with mixed up backstreet boys tracks it saturating the worlds bandwith worth it? They should know by now supply and demand will give us more and more stronger protocols
All that your doing by leaving your doors unlocked is making it _easier_ for someone to commit a crime, it does not make it *less* of a crime, it would also make it difficult for law inforcement to catch the person as less evidence (ie method of break and entering, etc) and it usually involves a person of determination to challenge a locking device rather than turning the knob on your front door.
I don't get it, you have an organization with some of the brightest and powerfull people, and they jump on some kid going to school??
You would think that the situation could have been handled by the FBI in 1 of 2 ways.
1) Allow the information, apply surveillance. using the ample US budget they should be able to determine without a reasonable doubt what this kid is upto and take him under coustody and let the legal system do what it does best.
2) Disallow the information and the surveillancething.
Why would they freak out on the kid and come up with nothing?
That doesn't seem right to me are they panicing? Do they know what they are doing?
Being much more powerful then a post-secondary grad, you would hope that US would have a better idea of what is going on.
We always bitch about all of our rights taken away for Homeland Security but what are they really doing?
I need to get this rant off my chest. Since when is it that a 6 figure executative (7 figure?) with intelegence especially from our buddies IBM is whining about what his/her customers want????
If she's getting off her a$$ to comment about it this opinion must be shared by more than a few people.
But just saying something like I think the RFID privacy movement is primarily an anti-retail movement, because no one is discussing this at all in manufacturing process control or its use in libraries (quote from linked article)
Common if I got paid to out right bitch like that with out looking at WHY my consumers were unhappy with my idea I would be SHOT on site!!
Why should I want to buy in on her idea?? Why do I care if retail dies??? Does she think that I will never be able to purchace, barter clothes, food, latest processors???
NO!!
don't let this BS fool you!!! You think WalMart is starving right now???
NO
You think these *MAGIC* RFID tags are gonna help us as consumers, not really, they just plan to shove gimmicks at us until they are happy.
The market right now is going through an information orgy. They want to know what color underwear we have on so they can stick it on their new "database" that was just sold to them by a friendly software sales man who just made a $hitload of CA$H off of them. Now the same company charges them even more to tell them, 'after extensive research of our findings, customer 19528 bought blank CD's and a memory key *most likely* (don't want to be sued if their wrong) owns a computer.'
And I am supposed to loose sleep over their problems??
HA >BR> Just for that I am gonna write emails to anybody with an email address in the industry that I am *AGAINST* these RFID tags and make those lazy bastards EARN THEIR money for *ONCE* rather than bitch at your customer for not liking my IDEA !
We have an excellent opportunity, think of this all windows is compliled, this will *never* change we have easy access to source which can be intrepeted and only compile / send on the fly by the host or client. OK OK I'll get to the point......
There is one thing that Microsoft *can't* do with their current platform that is stream *entire* applications so they run seemless on your own machine!!
Not an applett that allows you to subscribe to a mailing list, I'm talking about Open office, all the New Linux Games, who needs p2p??
All of your progs will run on my machine!!! No DLL hell gets transfered as needed. One thing that makes GPL better than EULA you *CANNOT* PIRATE GPL!! lets show them what you can do in an ideal community that lets you share *EVREYTHING* You have a new prog i can run it right from your box but instead of a term, download the application and stream source/binary on the fly!!
Ok..... Lemme get this straight, you say something into this device and if it is successfull it gives you a 'skwak'.... almost like back in the 'good ol days' when all this hacking started ie 2600Hz tone started all this Only diffrence is we dont have to worry about comming up with new fangled ways of immitating the squak with resistors and speakers. Mc Fly.... Hello Mc Fly !!
- How about pluging this thing via 1392 to an external CD-RW ???
- How about using the interface via WI-FI to do war driving / walking;)
- How about using it to hold ISO's of your latest distro that you could use as a more direct form of data transfer.....
Just to name a few ideas...... This can be alot cooler than some of you are even starting to scratch the surface
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How about all the people out there that read Docs, have no intention to contribute because of diffrent reasons (poor grammar;), just don't want to) but they are good and excell in taking existing content and making it look better. I think that anyone who would want to take on the job all the best to you!!
It might even make more people intrested if it didn't look so intimidating (endless links, etc) Just a guess.......
This article helped me find out how can we use open source for a financial gain? So far the situation is that some one that may only have half an idea of what he/she is doing stumbles upon a good idea comes out with it gets bought up by a bigger fish with a sum of money and they are left to their own devices. Now with open source no one person can make money off of on idea but on the quality of thier work. Now instead of getting a lump sum or 15 minuites of fame they are rated on the quality of the code they produce and since OSS is based almost purely on upkeep and maintence this gives a much longer lasting job to those who deserve it rather than those who jumped the bandwagon to fix y2k issues. We will no longer have to compete with the quantity of programmer corporations now have the money to invest programmers for the long term, more stable and reliable jobs... but that's just my 0.02 c (CDN);)
As evreyone posting / reading on this site knows Open Source is a platform that is used to share knowledge about techniques, inner workings of software / hardware. This has been used only for the benifit of the community that is intrested no membership card required and was never even pushed into the mainstream.
Now companies are realizing that there is no "magic" to operating systems and they can do it them selves, own the code and hire programmers to code it for them. They are under no pressure to patch the software, or even listen to the linux community at large on procedures. Maintaining software becomes faster and easier and MUCH less expensive once the project is done it is theirs and no need to pay any one any additional fees to keep it.
This is all because apparently we have discovered all there is to know about operating systems. How do I know this? Simply because there has not been an innovation that has eclipsed Linux even kernel 2.2 can keep up with the GUI's and stability that Microsoft has started, the gui hasent changed since the Mac in 1982, Multi tasking was started in UNIX before the Mac, there is nothing new Microsoft hasn't invented a single thing since day 1, Bill even bought QDOS to build on to become MSDOS.
Now is the mal educated that think that open source is wrong because they think we are trying to take over the big software companies and take all of their profits... LOL... We are just watching this happen some of us take credit where we really shouldn't we are just sharing knowlege. It just so happpens that this is the same knowlege that software companies have and is availible for any one to learn. Do you have to use linux to take advantage of it, no! Reading source on AGP will give you a very good understanding of what it is about and then could apply this to *ANY* operating system as long as you are still building on AGP.
Open Source will always exist weather certain individuals think it is right or not because we are curious and best of all when it really comes down to it do we really care it evreyone on the planet uses Open Source? No, it just gives an oppertunity to learn about computing. Open source is not for profit it is about education it just so happens that no one is able to take this lesson any further than what is already out there.
That is why closed source is going to die a slow and painfull death in the Operating system world, they have done it to themselves. The door is always open for an amazing new interface, filing system, method for organizing, optimzing, executing code. When that happens the open source community will get together and learn on how it works and in time will be able to understand how it works. Operating systems as of the time of this writing have been completed. Unless some thing/one comes along with a new ideal Open source will take over as it is now for all to see and use. Move on and work on the "Next big thing" and try to out do open source we *Want you to*.
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But you dont pay for it after they treat you ;)
That this guy must be grasping for the last bit of attention he can muster...
...
couple of points for the FUD master
Open Source software itself has never been around to make any money, businesses take it over other alternatives and apply it to thier business model. Nothing is hidden.
Could it be that software has gotten as far as it can go?? I don't think so but people that probably dont even understand what code is are here saying that it is against "IP" Well who's IP *yours* ?? no if the GPL and those who contributed to descided tomorrow to patent the whole thing and make it closed source would it make you happier? I doubt it. You know why its because the power house (i.e M$) arent comming up with anything to distract these companies in terms of innovation to stop them from going open source. These companies are happy to write off expenses and know that they have someone to beat with a stick, if something goes wrong, but an option that has no real corporate sponsorship like open source is being chosen over closed source?
And you say that is the fault of Open Source ?? Get a life buddy!!
I have a word of advice for you go back to the drawing board and come up with something better and they will buy it our economy has no problem putting $$ down for stuff tehy dont need maybe, just maybe you can pull something our of your *ass* that some one will want to buy till then *Shut up*
Thank you
Now if we look at the garbage that they will be sending over our precious P2P networks they do have to make some choices...
What protocol??
What file names do they impersonate?, if this is done manually that would definately suck
Will they be able to avoid file hashing (used by E-Mule et al)
even if they can P2P *Pirates* can also use special naming conventions try adding a special chars
Now other than polluting the network and assuming this gets enough hype (RIAA will *love* this) they should be able to get bandwith no probs..
but other wise all they have is some kazaa kiddies with mixed up backstreet boys tracks it saturating the worlds bandwith worth it? They should know by now supply and demand will give us more and more stronger protocols
This is a good idea but will it last?
All that your doing by leaving your doors unlocked is making it _easier_ for someone to commit a crime, it does not make it *less* of a crime, it would also make it difficult for law inforcement to catch the person as less evidence (ie method of break and entering, etc) and it usually involves a person of determination to challenge a locking device rather than turning the knob on your front door.
I don't get it, you have an organization with some of the brightest and powerfull people, and they jump on some kid going to school??
You would think that the situation could have been handled by the FBI in 1 of 2 ways.
1) Allow the information, apply surveillance. using the ample US budget they should be able to determine without a reasonable doubt what this kid is upto and take him under coustody and let the legal system do what it does best.
2) Disallow the information and the surveillancething.
Why would they freak out on the kid and come up with nothing?
That doesn't seem right to me are they panicing? Do they know what they are doing? Being much more powerful then a post-secondary grad, you would hope that US would have a better idea of what is going on.
We always bitch about all of our rights taken away for Homeland Security but what are they really doing?
Depends if the battery lasts that long !
I need to get this rant off my chest. Since when is it that a 6 figure executative (7 figure?) with intelegence especially from our buddies IBM is whining about what his/her customers want????
If she's getting off her a$$ to comment about it this opinion must be shared by more than a few people.
But just saying something like I think the RFID privacy movement is primarily an anti-retail movement, because no one is discussing this at all in manufacturing process control or its use in libraries (quote from linked article)
Common if I got paid to out right bitch like that with out looking at WHY my consumers were unhappy with my idea I would be SHOT on site!!
Why should I want to buy in on her idea?? Why do I care if retail dies??? Does she think that I will never be able to purchace, barter clothes, food, latest processors???
NO!!
don't let this BS fool you!!! You think WalMart is starving right now???
NO
You think these *MAGIC* RFID tags are gonna help us as consumers, not really, they just plan to shove gimmicks at us until they are happy.
The market right now is going through an information orgy. They want to know what color underwear we have on so they can stick it on their new "database" that was just sold to them by a friendly software sales man who just made a $hitload of CA$H off of them. Now the same company charges them even more to tell them, 'after extensive research of our findings, customer 19528 bought blank CD's and a memory key *most likely* (don't want to be sued if their wrong) owns a computer.'
And I am supposed to loose sleep over their problems??
HA >BR>
Just for that I am gonna write emails to anybody with an email address in the industry that I am *AGAINST* these RFID tags and make those lazy bastards EARN THEIR money for *ONCE* rather than bitch at your customer for not liking my IDEA !
Phew ok i'm done....
So does it run *Linux*???
You would really try to sue the gov. for Thought, Correct Answer, and Common Sence ????
The best judge in the country wouldn't grant that
We have an excellent opportunity, think of this all windows is compliled, this will *never* change we have easy access to source which can be intrepeted and only compile / send on the fly by the host or client. OK OK I'll get to the point......
There is one thing that Microsoft *can't* do with their current platform that is stream *entire* applications so they run seemless on your own machine!!
Not an applett that allows you to subscribe to a mailing list, I'm talking about Open office, all the New Linux Games, who needs p2p??
All of your progs will run on my machine!!! No DLL hell gets transfered as needed. One thing that makes GPL better than EULA you *CANNOT* PIRATE GPL!! lets show them what you can do in an ideal community that lets you share *EVREYTHING* You have a new prog i can run it right from your box but instead of a term, download the application and stream source/binary on the fly!!
You think Bill would touch that???
I doubt it
Ok..... .... Hello Mc Fly !!
Lemme get this straight, you say something into this device and if it is successfull it gives you a 'skwak'....
almost like back in the 'good ol days' when all this hacking started ie 2600Hz tone started all this
Only diffrence is we dont have to worry about comming up with new fangled ways of immitating the squak with resistors and speakers.
Mc Fly
Time for that old clunker that you have in the back of your closet to get jacked up with the latest version of DOS not only will you get paid fast
but they'll only get like 100 emails a month!!!
- - How about using it to hold ISO's of your latest distro that you could use as a more direct form of data transfer
.....
Just to name a few ideasThis can be alot cooler than some of you are even starting to scratch the surface
How about all the people out there that read Docs, have no intention to contribute because of diffrent reasons (poor grammar ;), just don't want to) but they are good and excell in taking existing content and making it look better.
.......
I think that anyone who would want to take on the job all the best to you!!
It might even make more people intrested if it didn't look so intimidating (endless links, etc)
Just a guess
This article helped me find out how can we use open source for a financial gain? So far the situation is that some one that may only have half an idea of what he/she is doing stumbles upon a good idea comes out with it gets bought up by a bigger fish with a sum of money and they are left to their own devices. Now with open source no one person can make money off of on idea but on the quality of thier work. Now instead of getting a lump sum or 15 minuites of fame they are rated on the quality of the code they produce and since OSS is based almost purely on upkeep and maintence this gives a much longer lasting job to those who deserve it rather than those who jumped the bandwagon to fix y2k issues. We will no longer have to compete with the quantity of programmer corporations now have the money to invest programmers for the long term, more stable and reliable jobs... but that's just my 0.02 c (CDN) ;)
As evreyone posting / reading on this site knows Open Source is a platform that is used to share knowledge about techniques, inner workings of software / hardware. This has been used only for the benifit of the community that is intrested no membership card required and was never even pushed into the mainstream. Now companies are realizing that there is no "magic" to operating systems and they can do it them selves, own the code and hire programmers to code it for them. They are under no pressure to patch the software, or even listen to the linux community at large on procedures. Maintaining software becomes faster and easier and MUCH less expensive once the project is done it is theirs and no need to pay any one any additional fees to keep it. This is all because apparently we have discovered all there is to know about operating systems. How do I know this? Simply because there has not been an innovation that has eclipsed Linux even kernel 2.2 can keep up with the GUI's and stability that Microsoft has started, the gui hasent changed since the Mac in 1982, Multi tasking was started in UNIX before the Mac, there is nothing new Microsoft hasn't invented a single thing since day 1, Bill even bought QDOS to build on to become MSDOS. Now is the mal educated that think that open source is wrong because they think we are trying to take over the big software companies and take all of their profits... LOL ... We are just watching this happen some of us take credit where we really shouldn't we are just sharing knowlege. It just so happpens that this is the same knowlege that software companies have and is availible for any one to learn. Do you have to use linux to take advantage of it, no! Reading source on AGP will give you a very good understanding of what it is about and then could apply this to *ANY* operating system as long as you are still building on AGP.
Open Source will always exist weather certain individuals think it is right or not because we are curious and best of all when it really comes down to it do we really care it evreyone on the planet uses Open Source? No, it just gives an oppertunity to learn about computing. Open source is not for profit it is about education it just so happens that no one is able to take this lesson any further than what is already out there.
That is why closed source is going to die a slow and painfull death in the Operating system world, they have done it to themselves. The door is always open for an amazing new interface, filing system, method for organizing, optimzing, executing code. When that happens the open source community will get together and learn on how it works and in time will be able to understand how it works. Operating systems as of the time of this writing have been completed. Unless some thing/one comes along with a new ideal Open source will take over as it is now for all to see and use. Move on and work on the "Next big thing" and try to out do open source we *Want you to*.
If MYDoom "is the wrath of internet zealots who believe that code should be free to all (open source)" then where is the souce code ???