Well to be honest I disagree.
The only things that need to be seperate that you mention would be the antilock brake control. The antilock brakes too are not such a big deal either so long as my real brakes don't go out. You do realize that cars existed for many year before these things and they stop well enough don't be a wuss put some effort into them. In atleast one case AL brakes put you in a worse position than you would be with regular brakes.
Plus driving w/o lights(front or back) is very doable. I see it everyday with someone's old crappy car. Fuel tank level indicator, please. If my fuel tank indicator brakes for me nothing would change as I would get in fixed in short order in the mean time I can damn well tell when my truck is low on gas.
So to sum up as long as my truck is functional enough to physically move and stop itself no big deal. In my world we have things called repair shops when something stops working I take it there and it gets fixed. My saftey in the trip to the repair shop is lower but that doesn't mean it's any guarruntee that something will happen. If we didn't do things that put us at risk we wouldn't leave the house, hell that's dangerous those things can burn down. The safest place would be in a plane or so the airlines say. Lets all just fly around, wait lets build a flying city.
IANAL, but I don't think you are one either.
How can you not see this?
Follow these questions:
Has M$ responded to pervious situations like this? Do the actions in the case reflect their current standard? Does this situation have any possible risk? Are the actions of M$ in this case being modified to ensure that the risks are minimized? Then compare this action with the industry at large, was M$ following the established path to solve such an action?
Answers...
Yes. No, in the past they have mentionted what files were affected in most cases, and in general handled the problems differently. Yes the risk to computers everywhere is astronomically high, the chances of a virus spreading through this hole are really high. Maybe, we do need to understand that M$ could be hiding the relevant information to protect us lets leave it to the courts to decide. As for the general software industry they do normally hide information though the specific systems compromised are almost always listed so I guess we shall count his as a maybe.
Doing the math on my answers I see two "maybe" and plenty of "yes" answers. So yes I would say that this could be bordering on criminally negligent.
The fact the Microsoft's bugs can affect millions of people makes this possibly criminal if they are not taking the proper care.
That is IMO, though as IANAL.
I trust my bank enough, because they are a seperate entity not a governing body. Thus I have the power. I can take my money elsewhere. You may argue that the bank could take all of my money. Well no they can't as the government is insuring my bank.
You ask then why can't I trust the government because I don't have the power. Yes I can vote for another person but even still once voted in I have no direct control. At a moments notice I can't say sorry I don't like you, good bye. Which is as it should be.
Then again there is a little logic in the question why can I trust anyone. Truth is I can't trust my bank nor my government. I happen to be a betting man, so far my life has been okay and I expect it to stay that way.
To rephrase...
I can trust my bank because of the governments control/insurance. I can reasonably control what I can see from the government. The government restricting of my bank is going to be very much open. Thus I have atleast some control. If it were a government bank I would be screwed as I have NO direct control of my government.
Actually he can sue you and the DA will likely press criminal charges for assualt with a deadly weapon. I am not shitting you, this happens in many cases and it's really screwed up.
Boy did you miss the point.
They may or may not be inviolation of GPL. I am not stating what is and what is not required. AFAIK a reference someone is required and they do have one buried deep in the manual.
What I am stating is that this company isn't exemplifying the fact that it's gpl'ed. It may not be required but it would be nice for them openly support this project.
In response to a) they are being very shady about mentioning that it is mythtv. As for b) again I see shades of gray. I have been following this for a while now as I am on the mythtv users mailing list.
They may or may not be contributing at all thus no OSS programmer getting paid.
They may be in the legal clear with a one liner at the end of the manual but to me they should be more upfront and if possible(ie not if their chapter 11) donate to mythtv for the betterment of the project.
It's modified, but the source is available in the iso, possibly also on the system already.
There is also a mention on the last page of the manual.
Weither legal or not they should place mythtv links more prominetly, IMO.
Um no, it means anything government. Get it through your head city/county government is now under the control of the state government who'd have thunk it.
If you want a local city run telco like this call your state senator and demand that they vote against this law.
This doesn't outlaw anything just tells the cities/counties it's up to the state. The state since you probably don't vote is under the control of the monopolies but that is your fault. So deal.
Lets not forget the Linux tries to release new kernel's with backwards compatibility. Linux seems more successful, though.
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I didn't read the article so it's not 100% clear what there doing but this doesn't seem knew.
Changing these settings can cause the engine to die prematurely. While you may be able to reprogram the chip back to factory specs before you get it repaired it's still illegal and immoral. While that Act can protect you in many cases it can be very difficult to prove someone tampered with the engine computers while they can still cause damage. Thus leaving the car companies to hold the bag while you get to screw with settings you may know nothing about.
Honestly I can understand that if the change you made didn't damage your car good, but if it did then the reponsibility is on you to fix it, even if you can catch the dealer on a technicality. Being that they can't prove it.
This is almost the opposite of the RIAA lawsuits. The car owners are proected even if they did something to cause the damage because there is no proof. Where as the RIAA is lawsuit crazy without concrete proof that any damages occured.
This is the horrid state of affairs our government is in. While the DMCA and the powers the RIAA has in the court room suck, it's not fair to car manufacturers who get held liable for some people's deliberate damage to the car.
Note: I am not really using "you" to refer to jargoone, merely as a tool for someone who is doing this to their car. Also I do think we should have right to modify these settings, I also don't want to see the car manufacturers to be forced into RIAA tactics to protect there profits.
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Well to be honest I disagree. The only things that need to be seperate that you mention would be the antilock brake control. The antilock brakes too are not such a big deal either so long as my real brakes don't go out. You do realize that cars existed for many year before these things and they stop well enough don't be a wuss put some effort into them. In atleast one case AL brakes put you in a worse position than you would be with regular brakes. Plus driving w/o lights(front or back) is very doable. I see it everyday with someone's old crappy car. Fuel tank level indicator, please. If my fuel tank indicator brakes for me nothing would change as I would get in fixed in short order in the mean time I can damn well tell when my truck is low on gas. So to sum up as long as my truck is functional enough to physically move and stop itself no big deal. In my world we have things called repair shops when something stops working I take it there and it gets fixed. My saftey in the trip to the repair shop is lower but that doesn't mean it's any guarruntee that something will happen. If we didn't do things that put us at risk we wouldn't leave the house, hell that's dangerous those things can burn down. The safest place would be in a plane or so the airlines say. Lets all just fly around, wait lets build a flying city.
IANAL, but I don't think you are one either. How can you not see this? Follow these questions: Has M$ responded to pervious situations like this? Do the actions in the case reflect their current standard? Does this situation have any possible risk? Are the actions of M$ in this case being modified to ensure that the risks are minimized? Then compare this action with the industry at large, was M$ following the established path to solve such an action? Answers... Yes. No, in the past they have mentionted what files were affected in most cases, and in general handled the problems differently. Yes the risk to computers everywhere is astronomically high, the chances of a virus spreading through this hole are really high. Maybe, we do need to understand that M$ could be hiding the relevant information to protect us lets leave it to the courts to decide. As for the general software industry they do normally hide information though the specific systems compromised are almost always listed so I guess we shall count his as a maybe. Doing the math on my answers I see two "maybe" and plenty of "yes" answers. So yes I would say that this could be bordering on criminally negligent. The fact the Microsoft's bugs can affect millions of people makes this possibly criminal if they are not taking the proper care. That is IMO, though as IANAL.
I trust my bank enough, because they are a seperate entity not a governing body. Thus I have the power. I can take my money elsewhere. You may argue that the bank could take all of my money. Well no they can't as the government is insuring my bank. You ask then why can't I trust the government because I don't have the power. Yes I can vote for another person but even still once voted in I have no direct control. At a moments notice I can't say sorry I don't like you, good bye. Which is as it should be. Then again there is a little logic in the question why can I trust anyone. Truth is I can't trust my bank nor my government. I happen to be a betting man, so far my life has been okay and I expect it to stay that way. To rephrase... I can trust my bank because of the governments control/insurance. I can reasonably control what I can see from the government. The government restricting of my bank is going to be very much open. Thus I have atleast some control. If it were a government bank I would be screwed as I have NO direct control of my government.
Actually he can sue you and the DA will likely press criminal charges for assualt with a deadly weapon. I am not shitting you, this happens in many cases and it's really screwed up.
Boy did you miss the point. They may or may not be inviolation of GPL. I am not stating what is and what is not required. AFAIK a reference someone is required and they do have one buried deep in the manual. What I am stating is that this company isn't exemplifying the fact that it's gpl'ed. It may not be required but it would be nice for them openly support this project.
In response to a) they are being very shady about mentioning that it is mythtv. As for b) again I see shades of gray. I have been following this for a while now as I am on the mythtv users mailing list. They may or may not be contributing at all thus no OSS programmer getting paid. They may be in the legal clear with a one liner at the end of the manual but to me they should be more upfront and if possible(ie not if their chapter 11) donate to mythtv for the betterment of the project.
It's modified, but the source is available in the iso, possibly also on the system already. There is also a mention on the last page of the manual. Weither legal or not they should place mythtv links more prominetly, IMO.
the source is in the iso.
woah first. They hide the fact that it is mythtv pretty well so maybe gpl problem.
Um no, it means anything government. Get it through your head city/county government is now under the control of the state government who'd have thunk it. If you want a local city run telco like this call your state senator and demand that they vote against this law. This doesn't outlaw anything just tells the cities/counties it's up to the state. The state since you probably don't vote is under the control of the monopolies but that is your fault. So deal.
Lets not forget the Linux tries to release new kernel's with backwards compatibility. Linux seems more successful, though.
I didn't read the article so it's not 100% clear what there doing but this doesn't seem knew. Changing these settings can cause the engine to die prematurely. While you may be able to reprogram the chip back to factory specs before you get it repaired it's still illegal and immoral. While that Act can protect you in many cases it can be very difficult to prove someone tampered with the engine computers while they can still cause damage. Thus leaving the car companies to hold the bag while you get to screw with settings you may know nothing about. Honestly I can understand that if the change you made didn't damage your car good, but if it did then the reponsibility is on you to fix it, even if you can catch the dealer on a technicality. Being that they can't prove it. This is almost the opposite of the RIAA lawsuits. The car owners are proected even if they did something to cause the damage because there is no proof. Where as the RIAA is lawsuit crazy without concrete proof that any damages occured. This is the horrid state of affairs our government is in. While the DMCA and the powers the RIAA has in the court room suck, it's not fair to car manufacturers who get held liable for some people's deliberate damage to the car. Note: I am not really using "you" to refer to jargoone, merely as a tool for someone who is doing this to their car. Also I do think we should have right to modify these settings, I also don't want to see the car manufacturers to be forced into RIAA tactics to protect there profits.