The stink here - at least to my European nose - comes from refusal to comply with the law; with a court order. The stink is the stink of CONTEMPT OF COURT. This stink couldn't be plainer and couldn't be simpler. Might add a little something though - like attempted bribery and/or corruption. But, as stinks go, this is a humdinger !
I was somewhat awestruck by this:-
"What if they said "screw you, I'm going home"
and I have a simple question. Like they did in South Korea a short while back ?
Have to admit that you have a fair question here:-
"What if they don't pay?"
I'd like to ask you a question. What would happen to you yourself should you be hauled before the courts in your home-land, fined for some offense that we wouldn't try to guess at here, and then you refused to pay ? Would the judge give you a big kiss for being a righteous and courageous citizen ? Or do you think that you might hear the words "CONTEMPT OF COURT" being used with regard to your good self ? Please understand these questions arise only from plain and simple curiosity on my part. Be assured that I will be most interested in your answers - if you want to share them with me.
I thought you summarised it nicely and completely with:-
"If you play in someone else's yard, you have to play by their rules."
Hereabouts the law is supposed to be the same for everybody - even the richest man in the world. Big mistake to literally "give the finger" to European courts - it gets the judicial system all excited. Some of its members will even give up their siesta just to find a way to be unpleasant. Bribery is considered to be in bad taste, also - so best not to get caught.
Just to offer my opinion, since lots of other people are offering theirs:- This is no longer about which Microsoft thingy is bundled with whichever other Microsoft whatsit. This never was about Anti-Americanism. This is about a company (and ultimately a man) who thought itself above the law of the land where it was functioning and, when brought before the local courts (or brought to local justice, if you prefer) decided to use every possible trick (some of them quite filthy) to prove that it was a law unto itself. Courts all over the world - most especially in America - are very quick to sanction this kind of conduct, for it has a name, it's called CONTEMPT OF COURT.
In conclusion, I see some references to rape in the comments here. The word is lightly used. For information, just hang around and see the result of continued, reiterated CONTEMPT OF COURT on this continent. Rape is not the word - the judicial system will "rip you a new one" and they will not hang back because the affair concerns (gasp)Microsoft and/or (gasp, gasp) "the richest man in the world". Hereabouts, justice is not for sale (at least, not today)
"Sorry, but I support Microsoft's efforts to secure their computing environment"
My feeling is that there is no need to be sorry. We all support Microsoft's efforts to move towards securing their computing environment. As indeed we all wait - and with no little interest - for the movement to begin and the first concrete results to emerge. Please believe that we are all interested, and that we have not lost hope (only temporarily mislaid it).
and I feel that more precision is required in this case
"Having children requires having normal sex"
would be better, I think
And this provokes a question:
"who on earth would willingly have sex with Ballmer?"
Do you mean that Ballmer actually lives on the same planet as I do ? Something must be done, if this is in fact the case. Probably the cause of all this global warming....
Just showed this to an elderly South Korean mother. She stopped chatting with her elderly black robot companion for just long enough to say "Jolly Good Show - keep it up !". Her elderly black robot companion - who had a distinctly Hispanic accent - added "Yeah Moma ! Go Moma ! You hot Moma !" And this seemed vaguely supportive to me, even though the robot then suffered an attack of hiccups. They then returned to their interrupted discussion which concerned alcoholism in elderly South Korean mothers and their elderly robot companions, the main point being a disagreement concerning whether the robot in question should "share the bottle".
The lesson I took away from this encounter was the following:
Moms (at least elderly alcoholic South Korean Moms) don't want to want to be "left out of this" and neither do their elderly black Hispanic robot companions
As a father (and sysadmin) I say that they have every right - be they drunk or sober.
I don't know, but I heard a rumour to the effect that Jim Thatcher was a relative of Margret Thatcher the British former prime-minister. The same rumour relates that the British Government adopted Microsoft software as a standard on or about the same time as Jim started at Microsoft.
Of course, the above is only a rumour - and nobody pays much attention to rumours, do they ? In my case though, they do generate a certain suspicion in the back of my mind if the name Microsoft creeps in.
In my humble opinion, an Open Group cannot - in principle - exclude participation from anybody willing and able to participate. I don't really want to enter into a discussion touching Microsoft's ability (or real willingness) to make a contribution to the Group's effort by their participation - history speaks for itself. However, still in my opinion, any "Open" Group in a free society should be able to exclude from its ranks anything or anybody whom it judges likely to be detrimental to its efforts - and it would be no less "Open" for doing so. The only real question here is (in my opinion, still) is the decision point. Should the group decide uniquely on the history of Microsoft's action in like contexts - and there is ample history ? Or should the group welcome the new participant and judge on result - everybody and everything changes ?
You may be mistaken, sir. I thought I read that somebody called Gates had cancelled 2007 entirely (through a perceived lack of interest, I believe). This cancellation made, Vesta was going to be out next year.
Sorry if my addition to your title sounds harsh or off-hand, but I found the article to be interesting - and some of the comments also. I generally find Slashdot articles to be interesting and informative and, when I find something which doesn't interest me, I just skip it.
A care not a jot (or a tittle, for that matter) for their billing cycle or for their affiliations - not my business. All I ask of them is an interesting read, and the subject of this article interests me. Sounds like an interesting young fellow too - gives some hope for the up-coming generation, I think
I don't think that the following part of your post is quite as correct as it might be:
"figure pulled out of someone's, who has no clue about where development is at, ass."
My personal view is that the person concerned did not have to pull (it) out.
This person is obviously suffering from a complaint which is well known amongst the English. This complaint is known as verbal diarrhoea, and there is no known cure, though the French (as per usual) have a colloquial expression for it. As of the figure itself (60%), which is not specifically referred to in your post, this is obviously the result of another well-known English complaint - arithmetic dyslexia
Before anybody gets the idea that I'm trying to start a racist "flame war", let me hasten to say that the fact that a sickness is well-known in England does not exclude it from being prevalent in other parts of the world - the state of Washington, USA may well be an example. Let me further hasten to state that the French have a colloquial expression for just about everything - particularly for things which are unpleasant and English.
"there might even be a In Soviet Russia joke. There, I just saved everyone the time of reading this thread."
because your kind (even Christian) action was very nearly successful. You forgot the obligatory joke concerning aged South Koreans. Let me help out:-
In South Korea, only old people are worried about "holes" in Microsoft products. They haven't heard that Bill doesn't like them (they're a bit deaf). Younger South Koreans have wisely switched to Linux(and Firefox), as indeed have I.
Hey thanks - I didn't know how to get Google to give definitions like that. If you have a minute, could I ask you to tell me where you obtained the information ? My thought is that there must be other things that are possible and that I don't know how to do.
You are certainly correct concerning the/. editors. If they did not make the original mistake, they should have picked it up. That's what editors are for. Its their "raison d'être" as the French say. Have you ever noticed that if something is just plain daft, the French have a ready-made colloquialism for it ?
"But this imminent scientist tells correspondent Scott Pelley....."
Could this have been done by the censors in the Bush Administration ? An attempt at humour, maybe ? Or (Lord, help us) an attempt at subtlety ?
It seems to me that this eminent scientist (he speaks for the NASA, after all), might want to sue somebody. He might hold that an imminent scientist is a fellow who is about to become a scientist - about to obtain his first diploma, that is. In short an eminent scientist is an authoritative voice by virtue of qualification and experience, while an imminent scientist is just a wannabe. There must be grounds to sue here.
Of course, the administration would find a way to put the fault on the Slashdot editors. Who knows, though, if they got sued it might make them drink less and work more- you never know.
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This geezer is not nuts ! He can't spell, but he's not nuts.
The stink here - at least to my European nose - comes from refusal to comply with the law; with a court order. The stink is the stink of CONTEMPT OF COURT . This stink couldn't be plainer and couldn't be simpler. Might add a little something though - like attempted bribery and/or corruption. But, as stinks go, this is a humdinger !
I was somewhat awestruck by this:-
and I have a simple question. Like they did in South Korea a short while back ?Have to admit that you have a fair question here:-
I'd like to ask you a question. What would happen to you yourself should you be hauled before the courts in your home-land, fined for some offense that we wouldn't try to guess at here, and then you refused to pay ? Would the judge give you a big kiss for being a righteous and courageous citizen ? Or do you think that you might hear the words "CONTEMPT OF COURT" being used with regard to your good self ? Please understand these questions arise only from plain and simple curiosity on my part. Be assured that I will be most interested in your answers - if you want to share them with me.Contempt of Court ?
I thought you summarised it nicely and completely with:-
Hereabouts the law is supposed to be the same for everybody - even the richest man in the world. Big mistake to literally "give the finger" to European courts - it gets the judicial system all excited. Some of its members will even give up their siesta just to find a way to be unpleasant. Bribery is considered to be in bad taste, also - so best not to get caught.Just to offer my opinion, since lots of other people are offering theirs:- This is no longer about which Microsoft thingy is bundled with whichever other Microsoft whatsit. This never was about Anti-Americanism. This is about a company (and ultimately a man) who thought itself above the law of the land where it was functioning and, when brought before the local courts (or brought to local justice, if you prefer) decided to use every possible trick (some of them quite filthy) to prove that it was a law unto itself. Courts all over the world - most especially in America - are very quick to sanction this kind of conduct, for it has a name, it's called CONTEMPT OF COURT.
In conclusion, I see some references to rape in the comments here. The word is lightly used. For information, just hang around and see the result of continued, reiterated CONTEMPT OF COURT on this continent. Rape is not the word - the judicial system will "rip you a new one" and they will not hang back because the affair concerns (gasp)Microsoft and/or (gasp, gasp) "the richest man in the world" . Hereabouts, justice is not for sale (at least, not today)
This caught my eye:
My feeling is that there is no need to be sorry. We all support Microsoft's efforts to move towards securing their computing environment. As indeed we all wait - and with no little interest - for the movement to begin and the first concrete results to emerge. Please believe that we are all interested, and that we have not lost hope (only temporarily mislaid it).I thought an RPG was a Rocket Propelled Grenade. How did you get to "cowboys" ? This said, I still don't know what TFA is really trying to say.
You're more than correct concerning hotmail. Since it became part of Microsoft, it sucks. But what I liked best about your post was
'Cause I do remember - 'Cause these were the days - and 'cause I'm still laughing. Thanks !please legislate for crackup, crackhouse and crack round the ear.
This caught my eye
and I feel that more precision is required in this case would be better, I thinkAnd this provokes a question:
Do you mean that Ballmer actually lives on the same planet as I do ? Something must be done, if this is in fact the case. Probably the cause of all this global warmingAnd I must reject this on humanitarian grounds:
It is illegal to throw chairs at children.Just showed this to an elderly South Korean mother. She stopped chatting with her elderly black robot companion for just long enough to say "Jolly Good Show - keep it up !". Her elderly black robot companion - who had a distinctly Hispanic accent - added "Yeah Moma ! Go Moma ! You hot Moma !" And this seemed vaguely supportive to me, even though the robot then suffered an attack of hiccups. They then returned to their interrupted discussion which concerned alcoholism in elderly South Korean mothers and their elderly robot companions, the main point being a disagreement concerning whether the robot in question should "share the bottle".
The lesson I took away from this encounter was the following:
As a father (and sysadmin) I say that they have every right - be they drunk or sober.Thank you for your thoughts. Have a good day.
I don't know, but I heard a rumour to the effect that Jim Thatcher was a relative of Margret Thatcher the British former prime-minister. The same rumour relates that the British Government adopted Microsoft software as a standard on or about the same time as Jim started at Microsoft.
Of course, the above is only a rumour - and nobody pays much attention to rumours, do they ? In my case though, they do generate a certain suspicion in the back of my mind if the name Microsoft creeps in.
In my humble opinion, an Open Group cannot - in principle - exclude participation from anybody willing and able to participate. I don't really want to enter into a discussion touching Microsoft's ability (or real willingness) to make a contribution to the Group's effort by their participation - history speaks for itself. However, still in my opinion, any "Open" Group in a free society should be able to exclude from its ranks anything or anybody whom it judges likely to be detrimental to its efforts - and it would be no less "Open" for doing so. The only real question here is (in my opinion, still) is the decision point. Should the group decide uniquely on the history of Microsoft's action in like contexts - and there is ample history ? Or should the group welcome the new participant and judge on result - everybody and everything changes ?
You may be mistaken, sir. I thought I read that somebody called Gates had cancelled 2007 entirely (through a perceived lack of interest, I believe). This cancellation made, Vesta was going to be out next year.
I'm sure that
is good journalism; but I gotta say that I'm with Gudmundur - it would have surprised the hell out of me too !With this
it seems to me that the northern, southerb and eastern imperialist infidels might feel left-out.Let us be large of heart - support the jihad against absolutely everybody !!! Including even my uncle Samuel !
Would be good if you got some help - try your doctor.
Sorry if my addition to your title sounds harsh or off-hand, but I found the article to be interesting - and some of the comments also. I generally find Slashdot articles to be interesting and informative and, when I find something which doesn't interest me, I just skip it.
A care not a jot (or a tittle, for that matter) for their billing cycle or for their affiliations - not my business. All I ask of them is an interesting read, and the subject of this article interests me. Sounds like an interesting young fellow too - gives some hope for the up-coming generation, I think
I don't think that the following part of your post is quite as correct as it might be:
My personal view is that the person concerned did not have to pull (it) outThis person is obviously suffering from a complaint which is well known amongst the English. This complaint is known as verbal diarrhoea, and there is no known cure, though the French (as per usual) have a colloquial expression for it. As of the figure itself (60%), which is not specifically referred to in your post, this is obviously the result of another well-known English complaint - arithmetic dyslexia
Before anybody gets the idea that I'm trying to start a racist "flame war", let me hasten to say that the fact that a sickness is well-known in England does not exclude it from being prevalent in other parts of the world - the state of Washington, USA may well be an example. Let me further hasten to state that the French have a colloquial expression for just about everything - particularly for things which are unpleasant and English.
And, naturally, in South Korea only old people own films.
Could they wait a little longer ? The 25th. is my birthday - I was hoping for a peaceful week-end.
I also wish to pass on this one. There are some things I will never understand, and not a few things that I don't want even to hear about.
This left me thoughtful,
because your kind (even Christian) action was very nearly successful. You forgot the obligatory joke concerning aged South Koreans. Let me help out:- There, now you have it all.Hey thanks - I didn't know how to get Google to give definitions like that. If you have a minute, could I ask you to tell me where you obtained the information ? My thought is that there must be other things that are possible and that I don't know how to do.
You are certainly correct concerning the /. editors. If they did not make the original mistake, they should have picked it up. That's what editors are for. Its their "raison d'être" as the French say. Have you ever noticed that if something is just plain daft, the French have a ready-made colloquialism for it ?
Thanks again, and have a really good day.
I noticed this in the write-up for TFA,
Could this have been done by the censors in the Bush Administration ? An attempt at humour, maybe ? Or (Lord, help us) an attempt at subtlety ?It seems to me that this eminent scientist (he speaks for the NASA, after all), might want to sue somebody. He might hold that an imminent scientist is a fellow who is about to become a scientist - about to obtain his first diploma, that is. In short an eminent scientist is an authoritative voice by virtue of qualification and experience, while an imminent scientist is just a wannabe. There must be grounds to sue here.
Of course, the administration would find a way to put the fault on the Slashdot editors . Who knows, though, if they got sued it might make them drink less and work more - you never know.