Rocking something is slang for indicating possession. Sort of like "rolling with" something. But cooler (and doesn't mean you are literally rocking or rolling).
-Toast
Hmmph. Kills my visual of a whole family staring happily at a bunch of smartphones sitting in a cradle. A very comforting, very American, scene.
I think I read a SciFi story about this idea in 1964 in "Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction", December 1964 issue, called "ShortStack"
Everything old is new again.
If you look at the wikipedia article, the concept was described in the 1930s and in fact used in small scale installations. The proposed system is 'just' one hell of a lot bigger and relies on modern construction techniques and materials. Lots of these ideas are old, they just have to wait for technology to catch up and make them practical.
My initial question would be what happens when a hurricane lands near a 2600 foot tower perched on a giant greenhouse? Somehow the mirrors (concentrators) and water/oil tank configuration of solar power seems like a more resilient structure, if only for the fact that the mirrors are smaller and closer to the ground and you dont need a massively tall tower.
I rather doubt that Arizona has seen a hurricane in quite some time.
You grow plants at the periphery of the collector where it's warm, not hot and less windy. At least, that is the plan. Nearer to the turbines will serve as a training ground for Arrakis.
Seems like a reasonable idea. The wikipedia article has more info than the TFA. There have been a couple of much smaller systems build world wide but little info on how well they work or stand up. I'm a little concerned about the 'limited maintenance' claim. It's a big structure in a hostile environment and has lots of moving parts. One wonders just how optimistic their financial spreadsheets are and how far they will diverge from reality.
.. I think there is real value in reminding people that good and evil are often not clear-cut in the real world, and the challenge is to recognize it in ourselves and what we do even though we *think* we are doing good.
Anyway, for entertainment value, there is merit in both the "clear-cut good-and-evil" epic and "ambiguous" ones that cause you to question your expectations. I guess this one is the former, which is fine.
I thought you were being a little unfair with the comment about being able to discern differences between shoots (although with anything but a low budget indie, this shouldn't happen) but then, when you talked about subtleties in the map that likely no one (including the film's continuity editor) noticed I realized.
You're just crazy. And more than a little OCD. Welcome to Slashdot....
OTOH, the whole mission is complex. Launching a rocket and guiding it to Mars has many potential points of failure, yet we've done it almost routinely. This new system allows a much larger payload to be landed. So it's progress.
The most votes = the true theory? I say exhaust the evidence for either case and let the children use their brains a little. What a great opportunity for a child to connect the dots for themselves and reach their own conclusions.
Right, because High School students are equipped to determine the validity of scientific theories? I realize that you're (potential) kids are (will be) smarter than everybody else's but I would put that task far beyond the capabilities of even the brightest high school student.
I bet you would rather do away with school boards all together and have some imperial science council decide what people should lean. Hell, why not just control what they believe too? That would fit best into your little control freak mind.
God created idiots, but first he created school boards for practice - Mark Twain
Either way it doesn't really seem like it should be the government's business to regulate it, unless it's actually being sold as a medical product.
They're not. They are going after real 'medical devices'. If you claim that your device is not intended to cure or diagnose disease then you get a free pass. Just don't try to sell it with advertising suggesting that it's a real medical device.
The Russians used their copy to try and hold up the roof of a collapsing warehouse... that didn't work out so well.
Honestly the most useful thing they could do would be a heck of a lot of destructive testing. You could argue they've already been doing that for the past 30 years, at least twice to failure (along with lots of non-mission impacting single engine failures, leaks, etc). I'm talking a little more extreme, for example, chop the wings up and analyze the heck out of them for the effect of orbital radiation on metal fatigue development patterns, etc. The skin runs at a ridiculously high pressurization, like 15 PSI, everything else in aerospace runs 8 psi max, so chop up the crew cabin and analyze that for pressurization related metal fatigue.
You know how civil / mech engineers are supposedly given iron rings made from "X collapsed bridge" at graduation to remind them not to build stupid things, maybe aerospace engineers (or more appropriately, MBAs) should be given o-ring and ceramic tile necklaces?
They are doing exactly that. One of the big complaints by the receiving museums is that they aren't getting the full Shuttles. The engines, the Reaction Control System and a lot of just nuts / bolts / sheet metal ARE going to get analyzed carefully. The museum grade Shuttles will be significantly mockup grade... There was a fairly big argument that at least one of the Shuttles should be left mostly intact (minus the things that are poisonous and / or explosive) but I don't think it went that far.
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ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY.
OK. There WILL be an iPhone 5.
Happy?
Rocking something is slang for indicating possession. Sort of like "rolling with" something. But cooler (and doesn't mean you are literally rocking or rolling). -Toast
Hmmph. Kills my visual of a whole family staring happily at a bunch of smartphones sitting in a cradle. A very comforting, very American, scene.
You realize, of course, you're being trolled. Somebody got a long time out in the basement and is taking out their frustrations on the Internets.
So you're basically looking for a new device to continue your meaningless, consumer-driven lives?
Certainly. It's the patriotic thing to do.
Why do you hate America?
I think I read a SciFi story about this idea in 1964 in "Analog Science Fact -> Science Fiction", December 1964 issue, called "ShortStack" Everything old is new again.
If you look at the wikipedia article, the concept was described in the 1930s and in fact used in small scale installations. The proposed system is 'just' one hell of a lot bigger and relies on modern construction techniques and materials. Lots of these ideas are old, they just have to wait for technology to catch up and make them practical.
You all need to get outside more often.... It was a couple of hours ago and I'm not even sure what I meant.
My initial question would be what happens when a hurricane lands near a 2600 foot tower perched on a giant greenhouse? Somehow the mirrors (concentrators) and water/oil tank configuration of solar power seems like a more resilient structure, if only for the fact that the mirrors are smaller and closer to the ground and you dont need a massively tall tower.
I rather doubt that Arizona has seen a hurricane in quite some time.
You grow plants at the periphery of the collector where it's warm, not hot and less windy. At least, that is the plan. Nearer to the turbines will serve as a training ground for Arrakis.
Seems like a reasonable idea. The wikipedia article has more info than the TFA. There have been a couple of much smaller systems build world wide but little info on how well they work or stand up. I'm a little concerned about the 'limited maintenance' claim. It's a big structure in a hostile environment and has lots of moving parts. One wonders just how optimistic their financial spreadsheets are and how far they will diverge from reality.
Vague unsourced rumours from Debkafile should not be showing up on slashdot. Debka is meant to be read for fun, not for actual news.
Slashdot is meant to be read for fun, not actual news. Good fit.
.. I think there is real value in reminding people that good and evil are often not clear-cut in the real world, and the challenge is to recognize it in ourselves and what we do even though we *think* we are doing good.
Anyway, for entertainment value, there is merit in both the "clear-cut good-and-evil" epic and "ambiguous" ones that cause you to question your expectations. I guess this one is the former, which is fine.
Das Boot for the latter.
I thought you were being a little unfair with the comment about being able to discern differences between shoots (although with anything but a low budget indie, this shouldn't happen) but then, when you talked about subtleties in the map that likely no one (including the film's continuity editor) noticed I realized.
You're just crazy. And more than a little OCD. Welcome to Slashdot....
I still remember rolling my eyes on the way to the theater, telling a friend, "I can't believe we're going to go see a movie called Robocop."
It gets worse. Much worse.
unignorantize .... I like it. Trips off the tongue like a Palin history lesson.
OTOH, the whole mission is complex. Launching a rocket and guiding it to Mars has many potential points of failure, yet we've done it almost routinely. This new system allows a much larger payload to be landed. So it's progress.
A more engineering centric view of your general point.
And yes, the sounds were stupid.
So one paragraph invalidates all of Western science? I didn't realize that the Old Testament was so powerful!
The most votes = the true theory? I say exhaust the evidence for either case and let the children use their brains a little. What a great opportunity for a child to connect the dots for themselves and reach their own conclusions.
Right, because High School students are equipped to determine the validity of scientific theories? I realize that you're (potential) kids are (will be) smarter than everybody else's but I would put that task far beyond the capabilities of even the brightest high school student.
Shrill, screeching moron.
I bet you would rather do away with school boards all together and have some imperial science council decide what people should lean. Hell, why not just control what they believe too? That would fit best into your little control freak mind.
God created idiots, but first he created school boards for practice - Mark Twain
Oh ffs, it's swallowing my markup too.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jNGGNomLx_c
It's evolving!
Try living here.
What? In a Miss USA pagent?
I'd try it at least for a little while. Until my wife found out, anyway....
Well, if Dr. Bob won't come to you, I suppose you could use the magic of the Internet to go to Dr. Bob (or his therapeutic equivalent).
Either way it doesn't really seem like it should be the government's business to regulate it, unless it's actually being sold as a medical product.
They're not. They are going after real 'medical devices'. If you claim that your device is not intended to cure or diagnose disease then you get a free pass. Just don't try to sell it with advertising suggesting that it's a real medical device.
How about we use them to launch things into orbit? Since, you know, we could really use something like that.
Because if you spend the billion dollars to launch a shuttle, you aren't spending a billion dollars to do anything else.
The Russians used their copy to try and hold up the roof of a collapsing warehouse... that didn't work out so well.
Honestly the most useful thing they could do would be a heck of a lot of destructive testing. You could argue they've already been doing that for the past 30 years, at least twice to failure (along with lots of non-mission impacting single engine failures, leaks, etc). I'm talking a little more extreme, for example, chop the wings up and analyze the heck out of them for the effect of orbital radiation on metal fatigue development patterns, etc. The skin runs at a ridiculously high pressurization, like 15 PSI, everything else in aerospace runs 8 psi max, so chop up the crew cabin and analyze that for pressurization related metal fatigue.
You know how civil / mech engineers are supposedly given iron rings made from "X collapsed bridge" at graduation to remind them not to build stupid things, maybe aerospace engineers (or more appropriately, MBAs) should be given o-ring and ceramic tile necklaces?
They are doing exactly that. One of the big complaints by the receiving museums is that they aren't getting the full Shuttles. The engines, the Reaction Control System and a lot of just nuts / bolts / sheet metal ARE going to get analyzed carefully. The museum grade Shuttles will be significantly mockup grade... There was a fairly big argument that at least one of the Shuttles should be left mostly intact (minus the things that are poisonous and / or explosive) but I don't think it went that far.