I do believe in the cause, just not to the point where my system becomes unusable. The nv drivers aren't just bad, they don't work at all. Which means I can't do anything, at all. Since I use this system for work, it's either the binary drivers and the associated risks (nearly 0) or what? Bearing in mind I can't change hardware in any shape or form.
Evidently. I've put up with a lot and I'm willing to go quite a ways to run OSS software. The problem is when people purposefully act to prevent me from using my computer at all. The nv drivers do tend to freeze my system. So my $4000 system becomes inert. Faced with this situation and knowing it's the result of someone's choice, would you stick with them?
I'm already in a situation where most distributions don't even install because the nv drivers they try to load at default won't work on my Geforce 6800. Even the latest vesa drivers seem unbearably slow. If this patch got into the tree, I'd switch to windows the exact same day.
It helps to put it in perspective.
The nv drivers usually loaded at default don't work with The Geforce 6xxx or 7xxx series and can nuke bash by removing the cursor, even when later unloaded. To top it off, they did something to vesa that causes it to redraw windows VERY slowly on a Dual core with 2GB of RAM. So. Until they have a product worth mentioning, the fanatics should shut up and let me use something that works.
I'm always amazed that people who post the "ignore the snobs" posts also talk about how much better they are than the other people. This is slashdot, a forum for geeks to discuss technology, not news for people new to comptuers, not news for windows users and not news for those thinking of trying the new OSS thing. There's a reason that Windows is represented by a broken window and Microsoft by the Borg.
With any large gathering, there will be people who disapprove of the speakers. On the internet, on a site with millions of registered members, it's pretty much certain that at least a few people will HATE your post, whatever it's about. It's far lamer to complain about it.
Again that would be a good analogy except that his mom was dealing with a small child while this person is dealing with an otherwise very intelligent adult. If people refuse to exert any effort on their own behalf when, comparatively speaking, it would not be hard for them to do so it can become mentally exhausting to help them, especially if they interrupt your work with their requests.
That may be true if they work to help themselves. But in this situation it appears like she's not trying at all. There's a certain point, the point when you're dealing with an adult in full possesion of their mental faculties where doing everything for them is unnaceptable.
I don't want my program to automatically insinuate itself into my system just because I've installed it; it ticks me off no end when I emerge gimp and it sets itself as my default picture viewer or mpeg sets itself insted of totem. Being friendly is nice but there's only so much of it that any person can tolerate.
* I don't want programs to autoset themselves.
* I don't want a shortcut anywhere
* Don't start up with my computer
* Don't register automatically
Do you want Linux to "advance" to the point where you keep clicking "yes" on popup boxes that ask you if you're sure? Or worse yet, "wizards" that do jack all but hinder manual installation?
If these hypothetical countries are in a position where they need the revenue generated from the sale of pirated discs to help feed their people then I have no compunction against letting them do so. The conditions in many third-world factories are terrible (long workdays, hand to mouth wage, opressive "magagement" (physical enforcement of employee policies)) and local industry, no matter what kind, will help to stop that.
Probably somewhat less than the value of a good book on zen buddhism.
For the record I don't have a social security number because I don't live in America.
There's always choice and there are legitimate viewpoints from every angle. You can argue that the hosts have the right to impose whatever system they want. The users have the right to say "stuff you, goodbye". That's the way it is, nobody's an evil Christian Communist Terrorist.
I would argue that some thoughfulness and understanding should be applied. If your readers of x years suddenly get asked to pay money, they will be pissed. Especially if the service you provided was never that unique anyway. Far better to take a collection first and see how that works out, most people will react much better and depending on your audience some people may simply not be able to pay.
You can run two Windows OS's off the same partition, "Windows" and "Biology Assignment" or "Program Files" or even better "RECYCLER". RECYCLER is hidden by default and nobody would look in there. With your own USB or Floppy based boot loader this can easily work out.
I do believe in the cause, just not to the point where my system becomes unusable. The nv drivers aren't just bad, they don't work at all. Which means I can't do anything, at all. Since I use this system for work, it's either the binary drivers and the associated risks (nearly 0) or what? Bearing in mind I can't change hardware in any shape or form.
Evidently. I've put up with a lot and I'm willing to go quite a ways to run OSS software. The problem is when people purposefully act to prevent me from using my computer at all. The nv drivers do tend to freeze my system. So my $4000 system becomes inert. Faced with this situation and knowing it's the result of someone's choice, would you stick with them?
I'm already in a situation where most distributions don't even install because the nv drivers they try to load at default won't work on my Geforce 6800. Even the latest vesa drivers seem unbearably slow. If this patch got into the tree, I'd switch to windows the exact same day.
It helps to put it in perspective. The nv drivers usually loaded at default don't work with The Geforce 6xxx or 7xxx series and can nuke bash by removing the cursor, even when later unloaded. To top it off, they did something to vesa that causes it to redraw windows VERY slowly on a Dual core with 2GB of RAM. So. Until they have a product worth mentioning, the fanatics should shut up and let me use something that works.
I'm always amazed that people who post the "ignore the snobs" posts also talk about how much better they are than the other people. This is slashdot, a forum for geeks to discuss technology, not news for people new to comptuers, not news for windows users and not news for those thinking of trying the new OSS thing. There's a reason that Windows is represented by a broken window and Microsoft by the Borg. With any large gathering, there will be people who disapprove of the speakers. On the internet, on a site with millions of registered members, it's pretty much certain that at least a few people will HATE your post, whatever it's about. It's far lamer to complain about it.
Again that would be a good analogy except that his mom was dealing with a small child while this person is dealing with an otherwise very intelligent adult. If people refuse to exert any effort on their own behalf when, comparatively speaking, it would not be hard for them to do so it can become mentally exhausting to help them, especially if they interrupt your work with their requests.
That may be true if they work to help themselves. But in this situation it appears like she's not trying at all. There's a certain point, the point when you're dealing with an adult in full possesion of their mental faculties where doing everything for them is unnaceptable.
I don't want my program to automatically insinuate itself into my system just because I've installed it; it ticks me off no end when I emerge gimp and it sets itself as my default picture viewer or mpeg sets itself insted of totem. Being friendly is nice but there's only so much of it that any person can tolerate. * I don't want programs to autoset themselves. * I don't want a shortcut anywhere * Don't start up with my computer * Don't register automatically Do you want Linux to "advance" to the point where you keep clicking "yes" on popup boxes that ask you if you're sure? Or worse yet, "wizards" that do jack all but hinder manual installation?
If these hypothetical countries are in a position where they need the revenue generated from the sale of pirated discs to help feed their people then I have no compunction against letting them do so. The conditions in many third-world factories are terrible (long workdays, hand to mouth wage, opressive "magagement" (physical enforcement of employee policies)) and local industry, no matter what kind, will help to stop that.
Probably somewhat less than the value of a good book on zen buddhism. For the record I don't have a social security number because I don't live in America.
There's always choice and there are legitimate viewpoints from every angle. You can argue that the hosts have the right to impose whatever system they want. The users have the right to say "stuff you, goodbye". That's the way it is, nobody's an evil Christian Communist Terrorist.
I would argue that some thoughfulness and understanding should be applied. If your readers of x years suddenly get asked to pay money, they will be pissed. Especially if the service you provided was never that unique anyway. Far better to take a collection first and see how that works out, most people will react much better and depending on your audience some people may simply not be able to pay.
You can run two Windows OS's off the same partition, "Windows" and "Biology Assignment" or "Program Files" or even better "RECYCLER". RECYCLER is hidden by default and nobody would look in there. With your own USB or Floppy based boot loader this can easily work out.