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Video of Fedora On PS3
klippoth writes, "I just thought I would let you guys know, not only do I have Fedora Core 5 for PPC installed on my Playstation 3, but I video-captured running through the boot loader to demonstrate how it works. And yes, I am selling the PS3 on Ebay, although that was not my original intention. But hearing about people making ten grand... well, let's just say my love for my PS3 is NOT unconditional. Metal Gear Solid 4 doesn't come out for another year anyway! (Although it seems that sales of PS3s are starting to slow down... oh well, I can think of worse things to be stuck with!!)"
pretty lame. All I wanted to do was buy a ps3 and play it, but I can't, because everyone else bought one first, and sold it on ebay.
Get back to me when you have a beowolf cluster going.
Is this an article about how functional Linux on PS3 is? Or is it intended to spark discussion about PS3 sales on eBay?
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I wish I was a subscriber. This is by far the most blatant slashvertisment I've ever seen. It should be tagged as such.
I guess that's not 1080 lines of resolution, is it? I didn't realize the PS3 was so easy to boot another OS. That's a pretty cool feature.
Oh man, way to get advertising for your nerdy eBay sale on the busiest nerd blog in the universe, for free. I don't blame you for trying, but nonetheless, a part of me has died inside.
Oops, I may already be a troll.
Even as you read this, your pants are strangling your loins! Aaa!
He must mean boots ...
LOL. More like $500.
So what works under fedora? Ethernet? Wifi cards (usb ones at least)? How about more than 640x480 resolution? Output to an actual monitor? Video and sound? It would be nice to have some basic questions answered.
My first and foremost question is whether the framebuffer driver that comes with Yellow Dog/RH5 fast enough to do video playback. If yes, PS3/Linux would make an awesome media center.
Using Linux instead of the native media player would be pretty much mandatory, since the built-in one won't uprez DVDs to 1080 -- if rumors are to be believed. Otherwise, since the Sony abstraction layer doesn't allow direct access to the GPU, Linux on the PS3 is just a big useless gimmick. The box is way too expensive for text-only purposes (except perhaps for researchers who just gotta have a cell CPU).
I'm not used to Fedore startup scripts, (Slacware user) it seems fast, but don't know how fast it is compared to a x86 PC..
;)
He should have opened some OpenOffice app
I've owned consoles going all the way back to when my parents brought home a 2600 and I can say none of them compare to just how good the PS3 is. Free 40 player online Resistance games with no lag thanks to Sony's dedicated server setup, the Motorstorm demo I downloaded yesterday(massively better than the one running in stores right now), webbrowsing right from my TV with a keyboard and mouse, and the machine is virtually silent no matter what it is doing. I replaced the 20gig drive the PS3 came with a nice big drive I bought last week. The original drive pops right out and it was trivial to put the new one in.
I just my FC5 installation going on my PS3 last night and am starting to get all the cool stuff like emulators and media software installed. I am already thinking about getting a second PS3 now that the Linux stuff is getting so much attention so I have one for gaming and one running always as a dedicated server. I looks like the PS3 running Linux is going to be the ultimate media server soon as people get everything up and running on the system. Cell optimized video compression is the thing I look most forward to.
Sony has talked about coming out with build to order PS3 versions later. A multi-Cell workstation with a few gigs of RAM running Linux will be a dream machine. Make it happen Sony! The amazing number of people out there running Linux on their PS3s makes it clear that there is tremendous demand for such a product.
The market has settled down around $1,200 since yesterday, although you can still find some obviously scammed auction up in the $2,000+ range. Hell, one analyst is predicting a drop to sub-$1,000 tomorrow. The resale demand just isn't there to support the 90% of people who bought PS3s just to flood ebay with them.
That guy is clearly not a linux user, or even a Windows power user. The one useful piece of info I got from that was that it boots and loads KDE quite fast. Some benchmarks would have been nice. Compiling some Cell code on the SDK would have been nicer.
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I've noticed that shortly after the release the prices for PS3s on eBay dropped sharply so much that you can pick one up for less than $1000 if your observant. Basically with over a hundred thousand PS3s on eBay the prices were bound to drop.
Oh and taking it out of the box and using it will definitely cause the price you can sell it for to go down even more.
http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html/
They claim to get "Supercomputer speeds" out of the PS3 - can anyone confirm this? How many points-per-day can it really do?
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
I like how the maroon talking over this is discussing that it is "compiling the kernel" as the fedora boot messages flow past.
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But does it run Windows?
You have tried to support your argument with faulty reasoning! Go directly to jail; do not pass Go, do not collect $200!
Now the price is about $1000 for a PS3. You'll only make a few hundred bucks at most, so keep your ps3.
I call bullshit. At least post instructions or a guide or something. There's no proof it's even running on the PS3. Oh, but it's on YouTube, it must be true. At least he got to advertise his auction.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to submit a video of my Sega Genesis (which I'll be selling on eBay) running Debian.
BogoMips dammit!!!
If I had known the message I sent in was going to be printed verbatim, I think I would have been smart enough to include a link to my Ebay auction...as it is, I could throw a plug down here but it would get buried in no time. As a note though, I actually went through a lot to get that captured, voiced, cleaned up, composited, etc, so I think if I do get any decent price out of this, I earned it more than the guy who threw in a free candy bar. As a side note, I did learn an awful lot about compositing... So as far as Linux goes, I haven't had any luck with the Network yet, but then again, the Optical drive won't mount and I seem to lack any audio as well. That being said, I am currently re-loading the unit, and this time I am vid-capturing that as well, since a lot of people have asked how this was done. Hopefully I'll have that vid up tomorrow. Personally, this makes for a great exercise in Linux troubleshooting, but I really can't wait for Yellow Dog Linux to come out, seeing as how it is optimized for the PS3. I expect excellent results. Where video quality is concerned, I am capturing it on my old (like way old) MythTV box, so to start with, it's not the best, having an ATI AIW 9000 in it. And since that card doesn't support HD, it's running through a good old-fashioned composite cable. On top of that, Youtube asks that vids be resized to 320x240, so you can do the math. You're lucky it's legible at all. That was really late at night when I did that, so trust me, "Compiling the Kernel" is not that bad....as close as I was to passing out, I'm amazed I didn't refer to its "Registry" or "Guru Meditation Error"....
this guy doesnt really know whats going on... the kernel is loading and he calls it "compiling the kernel" and by running startx he claims it is starting the "fedora gui" (which in a sense is true...).
As opposed to woman cock?
I've had more than enough trouble getting Fedora to run on my PCs, and these are systems that run Ubuntu, SUSE, and FreeBSD just fine.
If anyone's interested, the sale is here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=0 15&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=2500 51615791&rd=1&rd=1
At first I was impressed when it was just compiling the kernel, but when I realized there was the typical gnome interface like in ubuntu complete with the clicking button for switching desktops I was blown away.
You are saying that even 10,000 years from now, the PS3 will be spoken of as the being greatest console made? Should Sony not even go ahead making the PS4? After all, what's the point? The "greatest console ever" already exists?!?!
show us more multimedia, network connectivity, can you view the ps3 partition from linux, can it play back music or video or DVD's and could you not say "of course" so many times? p.s. It's called Gnome, not the Fedora G-U-I
How about posting about the Wii launch? :)
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Someone who can use Linux can install it on their own PS3. Someone who can use Linux and bought the auction item would reinstall the OS anyway. Someone who can't use Linux and buys this won't get a whole lot of use out of it will they?
What a dumbass auction.
I've been testing PS3 at SCEA for quite a few months now, and I'm not sure about the retail units (we have a special testing units), but there is a means right from the PS3 menu to setup multiple operating systems, with a partitioning tool included in it.
So I have to say I'm as impressed with this story as I was when I received a link from someone detailing the success of someone who thought he was newsworthy by replacing the stock hard drive, as if it wasn't designed to be replaceable.
is a recipe for disaster. As other posters noted, he doesn't have a clue as to what's going on, but what scares me the most is that he runs startx as root.
This video doesn't show anything interesting.
/proc, but someone just logged on root and... called startx.
After boot there was a console, I wanted to see
Then author just move mouse cursor over menu and read menu items, like he never seen it bfore.
Everything looks quite lame.
Wasn't the Wii released in the US yesterday? I haven't seen anything about it here on /., or anywhere else for that matter (but I haven't been looking very hard). Or is everyone just busy playing Zelda? :)
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I see no steps. this is 3 minutes of a tour of fedora. I know how to use it! Show me how to load it on a ps3.
and furthermore batman, what driver compatibility is there? oh, none? well then, pretty useless for the time being? or what?
see all these questions are being asked because none are answered in the googletube! c'mon man! don't let us hang like this!
Who is that masked man?
Must be why they like to hear gay man voices in their videos.
Buy it now! $5,000 USD. lol0bids. That is all.
The PS3 speculators are already in trouble. Sure, a few idiots paid $10,000 on day zero, but that's over. Auctions of unsold PS3 systems at bloated prices are now getting zero bids. There are "Buy it Now" prices of $3000, but reality is that units are going unsold at $1100. A sale of the 20GB unit just just occured at $925. Then at $840. One seller writes "I waited over 30 hours in walmart so you don't have to!" He got $780.
The original poster should hang onto his PS3. He's not going to make much money selling it. If you want a PS3, one will be available tomorrow. And the next day. And the day after that. At a modest premium over retail.
How come he boots into linux and then try to show the world the GNOME desktop which looks the same everywhere anyway.
/proc/meminfo or /proc/cpuinfo - looks like a fake to me?
Any reasonable tinkerer would have showned at least a dmesg message or
There won't be a new shipment till after Xmas. Xmas will drive those prices high again.
What a stupid video, who cares about the menus in Fedora. The guy didn't even do a cat /proc/cpuinfo
God, its not redundant, its a obvious take on the "does it run linux" that pops up as +5 all the damn time. And no, its not my post.
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why is there no option on slashdot to hide stories that have been assigned a certain tag. I would love to have all the slashvertisments hidden forever as I never interested in any of their crap, and this one takes the biscuit - it is by an absolute moron.
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1.ad ? buy my ebay product ? 2.information that ps3 has capability to run linux 3.youtube? world first ps3 hack ? but then after some googling "...Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 will be the first Linux distribution to run officially on PlayStation 3, using Fedora Core 5..." i lost my interest... so no news here ... ppl go on there is nothing to watch shoo ...
All the stories about the PS3 launch and sellouts, and not one about the Wii.
I'm not sure what every country is like, but the Wii sold out up here in Canada in MINUTES. Nintendo shipped many times as many units and still couldn't meet demand. Stores all over are scrambling to put up "sold out" signs as they're sick of customer #3000 coming in and asking.
Looks like Nintendo has one hell of a winner on its hands, and I don't see any news coverage at all. The lineups here started overnight and not even half the people in line at 7am got one - and this is with 5-10x as many units shipped as Sony.
If Nintendo actually meets their target of 4 million units by xmas, and this isn't just a fluke, they're going to dominate this generation at least until Sony can get their production issues sorted out.
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Wouldn't that video have been a lot better if it were silent? :)
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No, as opposed to boy cock. You've got to think outside the cocks.
some questions that hadn't been answered : : :]
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That's great that you've showed us how fedora look like, but I think most of us already seen Fedora-Core (1 version or another) works but what about posting some interesting information output in terminal such as
lspci, lsmod, meminfo, df, cpuinfo, or some more informative information.
also, how does it handle a non-ppc version? will it even be able to be loadable? lol I think it will lag so much (at least in fedora) that the smoke will come out from the PS3
1) /. loves system info screens. Really. Some action or at least tux racer. Closeup of kernel messages? Does it see the cell SPUS? Any speculation? Screenshot of pcimap? Writing, compiling and calculating fibonacci's 999'999'999th entry in under 10 minutes (did it once, took two weeks and led to 20Mb file)? ;). Tell us what are you using - DV Camcoder (in such case you are an idiot for not transferring it to pc via firewire)? Grandmas Hi8 (Would be so fitting. That's your parent's basement, right?)? Webcam (geek factor++, only if unsupported, yet still being captured under linux)? Btw 320x240 is on par with what you receive over regular broadcasts, so it's not so shabby at all, if done properly.
2) You can be pretty sure that everyone here already knows that Fedora (GASP) is Linux (GASP TWICE) and that it could include (GASP!!! GASP!!!) useful software like spreadsheet or word processor. Or even Blackjack, you gambling whore...
3) You seem to have no clue about video capturing whatsoever
4) You should go and learn some marketing - EBay auction - PS3 preloaded with Fedora Core 5, fully funcional would be some moneyraiser. Now that I have said it, expect this gap to be filled in 10 minutes.
5) Whats this rotating across your basement every 5 minutes? If you wanted to show yourself, would at least have done so. And trying to capture black PS3 in a black room - feeling like David Lynch?
(in short, send it over, I'll show you how it should be done properly (and in hi-def, for additional geek factor)).
Get the cells running under linux first. For now, as far as I am aware, they are just lying there not doing anything useful under linux. (and for the funny part my little filthy hands are itching to get my hands on ether one of those or G80 - I have some AI workloads to throw at that shit :P (isn't this the primary reason why the availability is so low - they all are already installed in some secret governments basement to form the next skynet (now that Google has proven to be too intelligent to actually do something about us)).
And then of course for general purpose use there is a problem who will write some useful software for them. I have a hunch that no-once - all people on earth that have even the slightest clue as to what to do with them are ether senile academics or busy at inventing new and new swearwords while working on the next Big FPS.
While i definitely appreciate the video ... some suggestions for "next time"..
.. the youtube obviously wasn't
1) Should not have clicked through those error message boxes without saying what they were
2) Should have shown us stuff like cpuinfo or meminfo
3) Show us whether the web browser works/loads fast and can get to the net
4) Told us how readable the display it was
What the hell? "compiles" the kernel? maybe fast scrolling text is always compiling to you! :D
IT COMPILES THE KERNEL OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN!
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That's great, but can I get a Quake 3 fps? Or any kind of real world bench mark? Folding@Home? Thanks!
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Can we all just agree Flash is the worst thing to happen to video on the internet since REAL?. Take two seconds out of your life and learn how xvid and bittorrent work.
No one reads the links anyway in slashdot stories.
If you're going to be posting things for public consumption, then you better get a thicker skin. They're typed words from nose-picking deweebs. The only reason they nit-picked everything you did is because they have nothing else in life that gives them a sense of self-worth. Most think the only thing that matters is their computer and their ability to haxor a script. The ones who have out-grown that mentality are either keeping their mouths shut or have written something constructive to you.
You're right, they're snobs. You should get a good chuckle out of it because the kids that are like that really don't have anything else in life to be proud of. Consider yourself better off for that.
Seven years ago I used to be just like them. A karma whoring know-it-all. Then I started using drugs, drinking, got a girlfriend, started having sex with a real vagina anytime I wanted, had a baby, cleaned up my act. The whole experince showed me how truely low and depraved I was as a nerd (and all fucked up all the time). I still know everything I did back then. I also know there's A LOT more to life than technology and my computer. I spend about 1 hour a day average on my home PC. Sometimes I don't use it at all. I don't check my e-mail because I don't get anything at home unless I'm expecting it. I don't chat. I don't use Linux anymore. Windows works fine, and I don't reinstall it every 30 days. And I come to slashdot when I'm bored.
Now I just read the funny posts and trolls. And I troll when I see some depraved know-it-all post. I've trolled on this story a little, but I just feel bad now that I see how sensitive you are. Fuck these people are morons in the "street smart" sense. There's still hope for you! Believe me, you can be a knowledgeable nerd with a hobby. Just don't forget that there are much more fulfilling things in life.
Develop a drug habbit for a few years if you have some kind of social inhibition that's keeping you locked up as a nerd desperate for nerdy friends.
And "M$" isn't cool. It's fucking immature. A company that makes money!?! $ony, Pep$i, $eagate, Pana$onic, George Luca$, Indu$trial Light and Magic, George Bu$h, Dreamwork$, $ubaru... Red Hat is careful to keep 'S' out of their name for a good reason I guess. I know: "my$QL" -------- TROLL!!!
Ignore these fucks that are saying anything destructive. Speak to the constructive ones. You are better than them if you are not one of them. Trust me!
...I am reminded of exactly what is wrong with Slashdot these days. That irritating, whiny, continual attempt to get the last word in from kids trying to outgeek one another. The guy's done something interesting - don't flame him for not being a linux guru. If you want a better, more technical explanation then go do it yourself...
Seems a bit much, if you ask me. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/17/ebayer_bid s_89m_for_ps3/
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... when I had a MSX, they said I was using a computer as a videogame console. Now I can use a videogame console as a computer!
So say we all
Hey, let's be generous. Or not! Hah!^^
This seems like great news, but I am thinking about the whole deal with the hardware support.
Because Yellow Dog linux will be the main official linux distribution on the PS3, will linux users be able to peer inside of the OS and scramble all of the drivers and whip them up into ubuntu, so that users can enjoy ubuntu at the same speed as they would using Yellow Dog?
Thanks
This is enough to make me buy a PS3 once the prices drop a little. It will be great for audio/video!
I have a 360 right now, but the requirement to have a Media Center PC to make it useful SUCKS! I got spoiled by XBMC and it's capabilities.
Sony knows which side of it's bread is buttered. People want to do more with their gaming consoles than just play games. They want to run unsigned code, play around, and understand the system better. Microsoft is doing itself a disservice by going out of it's way to prevent people from tinkering. They go overboard by requiring a "bundled package" in order for the 360 to act as a good media player. Suddenly people are buying new computers because Microsoft doesn't ship Windows Media Center as a standalone OS. Screw Microsoft.
Hey OP, looks like nobody took the bait!
Here are some Links showing more of Linux running on the PS3.
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Also, Link of Windows XP running on Linux through emulation
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpo...4&postcoun
http://rian.s26.xrea.com/
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35
The Wii has been released yesterday, and already 620.000 units are sold worldwide... No news on Slashdot? Seems like Zonk has to get out of his PS3 bashing mode...
...yes, but does it run linu... oh. Nevermind.
I thought Tux was a kernel-based http server.
There's no place like 127.0.0.1
A relatively new linux enthusiast comes along to show us what he was able to accomplish with the OS most of us love to use and all a lot of you can do is knock they guy down. Now if he had managed to install Windows on his PS3 and tell us about that I would fully expect him to get treated like this since we all "hate" Windows.
Linux will never get new users or gain popularity if the community using and supporting it starts acting like a buch of elitist jerks. This entire experience has probably soured klippoth from ever posting anything again and will probably result in him not even reading Slashdot any more. That's a shame. He is obviously an enthusiast who wanted to try something that had not been done yet. You all remember enthusiasm right? You know, it was that excited feeling you got when you first installed linux yourself, or built your first computer from a bunch of parts, or made your first DIY project. Remember that feeling? That's probably what klippoth was experiencing and he just wanted to share.
The OSS and Linux communities were built on sharing ideas and information. If the result of sharing such ideas and information is to get kicked around for your efforts then why would anyone want to share anything no matter how small of an idea? You should be supporting kipploth for his interest in linux and for being one of the first people (if not the first person) to get it to install on a PS3.
Dude, change your sig. Direct links to multimedia clips should always be accompanied, at the very least, with a warning, like "WMV media, 250 kB". Especially if the URL doesn't hint that it's going to be media. I leapt for the volume control once I saw WM was loading, fortunately it loads so slowly and performs so badly that I caught it before it had a chance to finish dicking around with itself :)
One simple rule for its versus it's
For fun, Google for "Linux will never", or search 10 year old newsgroup posts for the same.
Even with "a buch of elitist jerks", it does pretty well.
So, whether you think I'm a noob or an idiot or whatever doesn't matter at this point. The fact is, Sony expressly designed the PS3 to run Linux - any version, and they say so on thier site http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index. html . We all know that Fedora is open source, and you can sell computers with Fedora installed without a problem. But my auction was cancelled without any notification from Ebay over "Unauthorized Copies (Copyright)". To quote:
Dear klipp0th,
You recently listed the following auction-style listing:
250051615791 - Playstation 3 PS3 Premium w/ Fedora Linux Installed
The listing was removed because it violated eBay policy. All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.
What kind of crap is that!?! Since when is installing Linux on a system that supports Linux violating copyright? It wasn't a paid distro, it was a free one...
its worthless. 600 dollar console + hdtv = you can afford a pc:P
its not a good pc replacement, one part breaks out of warrantee an d you are up sh*t creek, no self replacement of parts there possible.
and if this linux is good enough to buy your geeky good will
just remember they are doing this to make you forget they are the mpaa+riaa bundled into one sick little package. sueing customers left and right, acting shady to the core. say what you will about microsoft, but they don't stoop that low.
It doesn't run linux ;)
PSubuntu, maybe? Not too far fetched. I'm sure Ubuntu could be re-formatted to work with the PS3 and maybe even the PS2. It'd have to be running the XFCE desktop or something leaner than that.
Don't get mad because you can't afford one.