I am totally fed up with you anti-Sony people having a field day with this story. IT HAPPENED. It could have happened to your sacred Apple, Microsoft, or Nintendo. Give the hater shit a fucking rest...seriously. Getting lame. Story Update! Then I get all excited to read, just to hear some basement dwelling fucktard bitch about the rootkit from almost a decade ago. Give me a break. You can buy or steal good music everywhere, just because Justin Timberlake's CD fuck up your shit and your're 36 doesn't make it an issue for everyone. You don't buy Sony anymore? Oh, you'll be missed. My 52" Bravia with an out of the box home theater from 14 years ago will be doing just fine. Why don't you post on some other story? Perhaps iphone or Drioid tracking? Something you can be relevant in.
Sorry about the rant. All I wanted to say was that a large corporations like Sony have a massive IT crew on trhis, and its a fucking joke that its been almost a month. I'm as pissed as you guys are. ts not two Spherion hired lackeys fixing this shit. Im very pissed off about the whole thing, how long its taking, etc. It IS bullshit, but it happens, to everyone. I've been calmly waiting it out, I think everyone else can. Data breaches happen, what can you do? If it's so imporant for to you to complain about old shit, you might want to check yourself and the life you lead. Just beacause I owned a Pontiac Fiero doesn't make all GM cars garbage. If you longer buy Sony, why comment? To whoever this might offend, fuck you, seriously, wait until Kroger gets hacked and they steal all your government assitance info. Keep jerking off to porn on your Vizio. Dickheads.
Do you feel better now?
Here's the problem, while it could of happened to those companies you listed, it didn't. It happened to Sony. Sony who's stance is, our shit don't stink, we have an unhackable PS3, and we will nickel & dime you on the Station Marktet.
Well, when the PS3 turned out hackable, Sony thru a fucking fit. A huge fucking fit. Not just the crying, bu the whole being on the ground flailing your limbs around fit. While they were having that fit, someone decided to use thier UNPATCHED, NON FIREWALLED sever for access to data. Now people hacking into companies computers to steal CC info isn't new. Which is why it's a big ass FAILING of SONY for getting owned in such a big way. We aren't talking small breach here, we are talking a huge fucking breach.
I know i'm talking to deaf ears here, but this is sony's fault, 100%, and they deserve it for being dip shits.
Yes, this effect me. I play(played) EQ2. Now i don't, because the server is down. And it's sonys fault for being shitheads, no one elses.
Am I Jealous? Yes I'm fucking jealous. I will sit on my shitty treadmill of a job at my evil corporation where It is timed to the minute when I take a piss and where my email is monitored, and I wish I could make $1000 a day selling 'hug apps' on facebook. Yes I'm jealous.
But I am glad for one thing. At least I understand what I am doing, and why I'm doing it, and don't lie to myself about the true nature of my work.
So you sold your soul to an evil corporation, and they instead, sold their morals.
Everyone's saying "where's this, where's that" and I've agreed with every one of them. My personal bone to pick is the total absence of Uru, one of the sequels to Myst. Go look it up. You'll understand.
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Ya, we understand that the game sucks and you were one of the few who never realized it, and are the only person who thinks it should be given credit/award.
dude, the game sucked badly. It's genre, sucked badly.
And when i say sucked badly, I mean, it uses it's teeth in a very painful way. (and didn't swallow, in fact, it spit it on your shoes.)
I think the idea is to Ddos after the fact, to cover your tracks and to tie up the resources that would otherwise be responsible for noticing your breach.
Obviously if you weren't such a pretentious little cunt you'd realize that the problem people have is with these companies sharing information on every movement they make to whatever companies are willing to pay them the most for it, not that it's required for the phones to work (and incidentally, location based services on both Android and iOS aren't required for the cell portion of the phone to work anyway, which makes your whole argument invalid).
Of course being a narcissist you've already dismissed me as being less intelligent than you for having a differing opinion, so I'll just lower myself down to your level and make a joke about your mother. Hey, you know your mother? She should have had her pussy stapled shut so that she couldn't squat out a little turd like you.
rofl
Man, you have some serious mother issues, don't ya?
If the response was anonymous, how do we know that the people who responded were the same as those who DDOSed? This, in a nutshell, is the idiocy of treating Anonymous as a group of people, however loosely organized. It would be better to call them what they are in this particular instance: Sony customers who are really pissed off.
If your DDOSing the server, wouldn't it make it a little hard to hack into that computer? How are you able to hack in the computer when it's being overwhelmed with fake requests?
Also, Anonymous is more than a well-known public entity. Many are trolls, whiteknights, immature children, and sophisticated hackers. I know, as I'm one of them. Not just a casual 4chan lurker, I mean the Anonymous underground. I don't agree with the hackings, but just because Anonymous officially denies it does not mean their word is to be trusted, or that it wasn't a member doing it independently of the organization.
Sure, so you claim. Mr. Anonymous.
We'll take your word that Anonymous can't be trusted, because obviously, you can be trusted. After all, you admit to being the man inside.
Nice try, but you didn't impress anyone here, 'cept the stupid mods who don't know any better.
Having played Everquest 2 for 5+ years, I think i can safely say, at least, SoE (Sony Online Entertainment) has a history of releasing updates that break other stuff in the game.
And they say the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree...
The civil standard of negligence is defined according to a failure to follow the standard of conduct of a reasonable person in the same situation as the defendant. To show criminal negligence, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the mental state involved in criminal negligence. Proof of that mental state requires that the failure to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that a result will occur must be a gross deviation from the standard of a reasonable person.
Mental state? We are talking about a corporation here, does it even have a mental state? Or would it's mental state be, "We are Sony, We are Legion"? oops, i mean, "We are Sony, We Can do No Wrong".
Or the mental state of, "Shit, it's only our customers, we don't have to tell them anything right away"
Or the current mental state of, "Oh snap! We aren't able to get money if our servers are down!"
Because no where do I think the mental state is: "We are really sorry about this, we fucked up big time, and got owned for it, and we feel like crap. Let us take care of everything, please forgive us" like it should be, from a polite asian society.
Or is the polite asian stuff just propaganda we've been eating for years?
They are in gross violation of PCI. Criminal Negligence is "suitable"
They can be seriously damaged by this... I would love to see their ability to take credit cards revoked. That would put an end to their entire online business. Can you imagine Playstation Network if it was prepay, or paper billed only?
Sony Online Entertainment is down also. Like Everquest 2, which I prepay for.
So i'm not really sure what you are trying to say.
Sony fucked up, bad. And they are going to pay, probably with a slap on a wrist, since that is how it works unfortunately.
... I hope you would have some real world to balance off "the screens" as well because to me, the human condition is not a clinically sterile parade of screens and gizmos.. it is about the sights, smells, grit, efforts and rewards you can only get once you run out of batteries.
People have always been smart, stupid is the exception. Most people who seem to be doing something stupid are: A) Their Ignorance. - which can be fixed. B) The observers ignorance - there are other factors you don't know about.
No, most people are stupid. You can try to give it different names and make excuses for them, but they are stupid. Sheeple is the best name for them.
Sure, some of them may just be ignorant, and might be able to climb out of the stupid wagon, if they try using their brains, but those are the few and far between.
Now, the people you know might not be stupid, and you probably just ignore the masses like most people do, but those masses? they are stupid people.
Then there is the stupid people that don't know they are stupid, and think most people aren't stupid, because those stupid people are actually smarter then that person. I'm sure you don't fit into the category.
We are going to turn into a nickel & dime society.
We are going to be charged by how much we use, instead of just flat rates for everyone.
As in, the government is going to nickel & dime us every time we do something.
Of course, if we look it it logically, it's fair. People that use their cars more, should pay more money for it. They are polluting more, they are using the roads more. They are using the gas supply (though they pay for it) up quicker.
I don't drive, so this doesn't affect me. I shouldn't care, since it makes sense.
But I do not see this sort of thing stopping. Which may not be a bad thing, but if we are going to do all this trouble ( and it will be trouble, keeping fucking track of how many miles cars go, etc), why don't we just take back most the wealth from the rich, call it a "fuck you, you have too much money, we need it tax) and just call it even?
It's so secure, I might not even know the password i use. I like it better that way, don't have any written down passwords, don't have any "cloud" storage of a password vault, don't have an encrypted file/database of passwords i use.
Sure, on the occasion I have to retype in passwords till I get the right one, but not that often.
Using a program for passwords, reminds me of this little true story:
My buddy kept all his phone numbers on his Atari 130XE, which I said, "What if you don't have any power?" His reply was, "That never happens."
Of course, a bit later, he blew a fuse, that put the apartment without power, and guess where his landlords phone number was? Yes, on the computer.
Anyways, i prefer the mental exercise of remembering, good practice.
Did Tamagotchi fail? Or did it just *ahem* evolve into Pokemon and Nintendogs?
And what kind of an example is Tamagotchi in the first place? Tamagotchi wasn't a tech, it was just a particular application of an existing tech that had been around a long time, in fact by that point it was practically retro. All it did was make the little hand-held LCD games that had gone out of vogue around the release of the GameBoy briefly popular again by coming up with a novel new style of game.
No, it didn't fail. It's still sells stuff, has something called Tamatown and other crap. google shows all this.
Just another person, because he doesn't see them anymore, assumes they are no longer around. Though if he had bothered to google that name, he'd see they are still around. But don't let facts get in the way of your article.
Granted, the whole concept of using an iPhone in the bath is silly, IMHO, I could see very legitimate real-world use for this in the disabled community.
My wife is a nurse on the ventilator unit at a local rehab hospital, and she tells me often of the setups people have there to use a laptop computer with head-mounted stylus units and such that don't work very well for some patients. But I could see a solution like this working wonderfully for quadriplegic or otherwise disabled people to use an iPhone or more likely an iPad.
Hmm, i thought people could do bath things, in the bath. You know, like clean themselves, masturbate.
Using an iphone, ipad, computer, laptop, etc, is not okay bathtime things.
Sony said on Wednesday that Anonymous targeted it several weeks ago using a denial of service attack in protest of Sony defending itself against a hacker in federal court in San Francisco.
Meanwhile in reality:
Sony said on Wednesday that Anonymous targeted it several weeks ago using a denial of service attack in protest of Sony attacking a hacker in a hopeless attempt to control information that had already slipped far out of it's control in federal court in San Francisco.
Well, ya, the info slipped out of their control, information wants to be free!!!!
Slashdot Mirror
You coming for me?
I'll be waiting, bitches!
Trusting is for idiots, mainly when money is involved.
While I'm sure it will be a fine game, you got tons of fans thinking this game is going to be the best game evar.
Sorry. The fun you had playing Diablo & Diablo 2, you will not get back. Those days are over. You can NOT relive it.
I'm sure Diablo 3 will be a fun game on it's own, but lets be real, hype is just hype, it has no bearing on the product you will get in your hands.
If you feel capitalism is such a failure, go live in a communist country.
Whats that, theyre all ghettos? Yea, theres a reason for that.
You mean like Cuba that has cheaper and better healthcare then us?
I am totally fed up with you anti-Sony people having a field day with this story. IT HAPPENED. It could have happened to your sacred Apple, Microsoft, or Nintendo. Give the hater shit a fucking rest...seriously. Getting lame. Story Update! Then I get all excited to read, just to hear some basement dwelling fucktard bitch about the rootkit from almost a decade ago. Give me a break. You can buy or steal good music everywhere, just because Justin Timberlake's CD fuck up your shit and your're 36 doesn't make it an issue for everyone. You don't buy Sony anymore? Oh, you'll be missed. My 52" Bravia with an out of the box home theater from 14 years ago will be doing just fine. Why don't you post on some other story? Perhaps iphone or Drioid tracking? Something you can be relevant in.
Sorry about the rant. All I wanted to say was that a large corporations like Sony have a massive IT crew on trhis, and its a fucking joke that its been almost a month. I'm as pissed as you guys are. ts not two Spherion hired lackeys fixing this shit. Im very pissed off about the whole thing, how long its taking, etc. It IS bullshit, but it happens, to everyone. I've been calmly waiting it out, I think everyone else can. Data breaches happen, what can you do? If it's so imporant for to you to complain about old shit, you might want to check yourself and the life you lead. Just beacause I owned a Pontiac Fiero doesn't make all GM cars garbage. If you longer buy Sony, why comment? To whoever this might offend, fuck you, seriously, wait until Kroger gets hacked and they steal all your government assitance info. Keep jerking off to porn on your Vizio. Dickheads.
Do you feel better now?
Here's the problem, while it could of happened to those companies you listed, it didn't. It happened to Sony. Sony who's stance is, our shit don't stink, we have an unhackable PS3, and we will nickel & dime you on the Station Marktet.
Well, when the PS3 turned out hackable, Sony thru a fucking fit. A huge fucking fit. Not just the crying, bu the whole being on the ground flailing your limbs around fit. While they were having that fit, someone decided to use thier UNPATCHED, NON FIREWALLED sever for access to data. Now people hacking into companies computers to steal CC info isn't new. Which is why it's a big ass FAILING of SONY for getting owned in such a big way. We aren't talking small breach here, we are talking a huge fucking breach.
I know i'm talking to deaf ears here, but this is sony's fault, 100%, and they deserve it for being dip shits.
Yes, this effect me. I play(played) EQ2. Now i don't, because the server is down. And it's sonys fault for being shitheads, no one elses.
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Am I Jealous? Yes I'm fucking jealous. I will sit on my shitty treadmill of a job at my evil corporation where It is timed to the minute when I take a piss and where my email is monitored, and I wish I could make $1000 a day selling 'hug apps' on facebook. Yes I'm jealous.
But I am glad for one thing. At least I understand what I am doing, and why I'm doing it, and don't lie to myself about the true nature of my work.
So you sold your soul to an evil corporation, and they instead, sold their morals.
Seems to me like you both lost.
It's 2011, there should not be anything a Javascript can do that is harmful to your computer.
It's 2011, where's my damn flying car?
after this:
But the real hurdle is convincing people that a non-lawyer is entitled to call out a federal judge on their logic in the first place.
Since when does just lawyers have a monopoly on common sense? I mean, lawyers? seriously? do they even have common sense?
Everyone's saying "where's this, where's that" and I've agreed with every one of them. My personal bone to pick is the total absence of Uru, one of the sequels to Myst. Go look it up. You'll understand.
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Ya, we understand that the game sucks and you were one of the few who never realized it, and are the only person who thinks it should be given credit/award.
dude, the game sucked badly. It's genre, sucked badly.
And when i say sucked badly, I mean, it uses it's teeth in a very painful way. (and didn't swallow, in fact, it spit it on your shoes.)
I think the idea is to Ddos after the fact, to cover your tracks and to tie up the resources that would otherwise be responsible for noticing your breach.
ah, yes, didn't think of that.
thanks.
Obviously if you weren't such a pretentious little cunt you'd realize that the problem people have is with these companies sharing information on every movement they make to whatever companies are willing to pay them the most for it, not that it's required for the phones to work (and incidentally, location based services on both Android and iOS aren't required for the cell portion of the phone to work anyway, which makes your whole argument invalid).
Of course being a narcissist you've already dismissed me as being less intelligent than you for having a differing opinion, so I'll just lower myself down to your level and make a joke about your mother. Hey, you know your mother? She should have had her pussy stapled shut so that she couldn't squat out a little turd like you.
rofl
Man, you have some serious mother issues, don't ya?
If the response was anonymous, how do we know that the people who responded were the same as those who DDOSed? This, in a nutshell, is the idiocy of treating Anonymous as a group of people, however loosely organized. It would be better to call them what they are in this particular instance: Sony customers who are really pissed off.
If your DDOSing the server, wouldn't it make it a little hard to hack into that computer? How are you able to hack in the computer when it's being overwhelmed with fake requests?
Also, Anonymous is more than a well-known public entity. Many are trolls, whiteknights, immature children, and sophisticated hackers. I know, as I'm one of them. Not just a casual 4chan lurker, I mean the Anonymous underground. I don't agree with the hackings, but just because Anonymous officially denies it does not mean their word is to be trusted, or that it wasn't a member doing it independently of the organization.
Sure, so you claim. Mr. Anonymous.
We'll take your word that Anonymous can't be trusted, because obviously, you can be trusted. After all, you admit to being the man inside.
Nice try, but you didn't impress anyone here, 'cept the stupid mods who don't know any better.
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You know that I heard that CmdrTaco is running Slashdot on an unpatched Windows 95 box using Boa 1.0 and isn't using a firewall.
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You are going to get banned from here for that.
Having played Everquest 2 for 5+ years, I think i can safely say, at least, SoE (Sony Online Entertainment) has a history of releasing updates that break other stuff in the game.
And they say the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree...
From USLegal:
The civil standard of negligence is defined according to a failure to follow the standard of conduct of a reasonable person in the same situation as the defendant. To show criminal negligence, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the mental state involved in criminal negligence. Proof of that mental state requires that the failure to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that a result will occur must be a gross deviation from the standard of a reasonable person.
Mental state? We are talking about a corporation here, does it even have a mental state? Or would it's mental state be, "We are Sony, We are Legion"? oops, i mean, "We are Sony, We Can do No Wrong".
Or the mental state of, "Shit, it's only our customers, we don't have to tell them anything right away"
Or the current mental state of, "Oh snap! We aren't able to get money if our servers are down!"
Because no where do I think the mental state is: "We are really sorry about this, we fucked up big time, and got owned for it, and we feel like crap. Let us take care of everything, please forgive us" like it should be, from a polite asian society.
Or is the polite asian stuff just propaganda we've been eating for years?
They are in gross violation of PCI. Criminal Negligence is "suitable"
They can be seriously damaged by this... I would love to see their ability to take credit cards revoked. That would put an end to their entire online business. Can you imagine Playstation Network if it was prepay, or paper billed only?
Sony Online Entertainment is down also. Like Everquest 2, which I prepay for.
So i'm not really sure what you are trying to say.
Sony fucked up, bad. And they are going to pay, probably with a slap on a wrist, since that is how it works unfortunately.
... I hope you would have some real world to balance off "the screens" as well because to me, the human condition is not a clinically sterile parade of screens and gizmos.. it is about the sights, smells, grit, efforts and rewards you can only get once you run out of batteries.
Yep, it's call marijuana.
People have always been smart, stupid is the exception.
Most people who seem to be doing something stupid are:
A) Their Ignorance. - which can be fixed.
B) The observers ignorance - there are other factors you don't know about.
No, most people are stupid. You can try to give it different names and make excuses for them, but they are stupid.
Sheeple is the best name for them.
Sure, some of them may just be ignorant, and might be able to climb out of the stupid wagon, if they try using their brains, but those are the few and far between.
Now, the people you know might not be stupid, and you probably just ignore the masses like most people do, but those masses? they are stupid people.
Then there is the stupid people that don't know they are stupid, and think most people aren't stupid, because those stupid people are actually smarter then that person. I'm sure you don't fit into the category.
We are going to turn into a nickel & dime society.
We are going to be charged by how much we use, instead of just flat rates for everyone.
As in, the government is going to nickel & dime us every time we do something.
Of course, if we look it it logically, it's fair. People that use their cars more, should pay more money for it. They are polluting more, they are using the roads more. They are using the gas supply (though they pay for it) up quicker.
I don't drive, so this doesn't affect me. I shouldn't care, since it makes sense.
But I do not see this sort of thing stopping. Which may not be a bad thing, but if we are going to do all this trouble ( and it will be trouble, keeping fucking track of how many miles cars go, etc), why don't we just take back most the wealth from the rich, call it a "fuck you, you have too much money, we need it tax) and just call it even?
It's called, my memory.
It's so secure, I might not even know the password i use. I like it better that way, don't have any written down passwords, don't have any "cloud" storage of a password vault, don't have an encrypted file/database of passwords i use.
Sure, on the occasion I have to retype in passwords till I get the right one, but not that often.
Using a program for passwords, reminds me of this little true story:
My buddy kept all his phone numbers on his Atari 130XE, which I said, "What if you don't have any power?" His reply was, "That never happens."
Of course, a bit later, he blew a fuse, that put the apartment without power, and guess where his landlords phone number was? Yes, on the computer.
Anyways, i prefer the mental exercise of remembering, good practice.
I figure, it's only a dollar, it's not much.
But then, the next day, dude was there, begging for money again.
So what the hell, i give him another dollar.
Now he's camped out on my door, asking for money every time i go out.
When will it stop?
(for the record, I don't give homeless shit. This is why you don't give homeless money, nor do you give trolls.)
Did Tamagotchi fail? Or did it just *ahem* evolve into Pokemon and Nintendogs?
And what kind of an example is Tamagotchi in the first place? Tamagotchi wasn't a tech, it was just a particular application of an existing tech that had been around a long time, in fact by that point it was practically retro. All it did was make the little hand-held LCD games that had gone out of vogue around the release of the GameBoy briefly popular again by coming up with a novel new style of game.
No, it didn't fail. It's still sells stuff, has something called Tamatown and other crap. google shows all this.
Just another person, because he doesn't see them anymore, assumes they are no longer around. Though if he had bothered to google that name, he'd see they are still around. But don't let facts get in the way of your article.
Granted, the whole concept of using an iPhone in the bath is silly, IMHO, I could see very legitimate real-world use for this in the disabled community.
My wife is a nurse on the ventilator unit at a local rehab hospital, and she tells me often of the setups people have there to use a laptop computer with head-mounted stylus units and such that don't work very well for some patients. But I could see a solution like this working wonderfully for quadriplegic or otherwise disabled people to use an iPhone or more likely an iPad.
Hmm, i thought people could do bath things, in the bath. You know, like clean themselves, masturbate.
Using an iphone, ipad, computer, laptop, etc, is not okay bathtime things.
Don't forget the rubber duckys!
FTFA:
Sony said on Wednesday that Anonymous targeted it several weeks ago using a denial of service attack in protest of Sony defending itself against a hacker in federal court in San Francisco.
Meanwhile in reality:
Sony said on Wednesday that Anonymous targeted it several weeks ago using a denial of service attack in protest of Sony attacking a hacker in a hopeless attempt to control information that had already slipped far out of it's control in federal court in San Francisco.
Well, ya, the info slipped out of their control, information wants to be free!!!!
Bastards. Maybe the info did the hacking job.